is thomas pynchon worth reading?
shattering asses
novel.
i also done heared that his first great book was 'gravity's rainbow'.
i also done
heared that he's anti-capitalist--though a great beneficiary of the
capitalist system.
what are his books like? is he a morally self-righteous arsehole?
is he inventive? profound? funny? what?
can his books be turned into mooies?
nick
wrote:
> i done heared that his latest book 'against the day' is a great
> novel.
Yup.
> i also done heared that his first great book was 'gravity's rainbow'.
His first great book was his first one, V.
> i also done
> heared that he's anti-capitalist--though a great beneficiary of the
> capitalist system.
>
> what are his books like? is he a morally self-righteous arsehole?
> is he inventive? profound? funny? what?
>
All of the above.
> can his books be turned into mooies?
No.
moviePig
I got 'Against the Day' from the library, and found it very tough
going... in the sense that I got no indication from my hundred or so
pages that, at the end of the book's thousand or so pages, I'd say,
"Wow, I'm glad I read that." I haven't read any other Pynchon, but
can readily see he's a sharp cookie. Still, I'm looking for a
credible 'why' before I'll make the serious time commitment to finish
his book (instead of, say, a dozen genre thrillers).
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David Oberman
>i done heared that his latest book 'against the day' is a great
>novel.
You've been reading The New Criterion again. But, hey, that's ok
because it's a good sheet.
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It might not be.
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nick
Against the Day and go with his second novel, The Crying of Lot 49,
short with action you can follow, and work from there. He doesn't
appear to care for it much but maybe it's because it's the one book of
his that just about anyone can get through. Gravity's Rainbow is
probably on the shortlist of all-time unfilmable great novels but iirc
the title character in James Robert Baker's Boy Wonder did think about
it.
And we won't go into how Jim Beaver duped me and Tom Sutpen into
thinking that Art Garfunkel had squandered his life savings buying the
movie rights to GR and planned on playing Tyrone Slothrop. This is
how internet hoaxes begin . . .
mut...@yahoo.com
Sssuurrree... If you're an aging fart who still believes flashing one
of his titles will get a chick into bed.
nick
> "shattering asses" <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >i done heared that his latest book 'against the day' is a great
> >novel.
>
> You've been reading The New Criterion again. But, hey, that's ok
> because it's a good sheet.
>
http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2006/12/20061218_b_main.asp
David Oberman
>Tony might like this if he hasn't listened to it already.
>
>http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2006/12/20061218_b_main.asp
Thank you! Also, here's a radio program on Murnau:
http://www.wbur.org/arts/2004/48954_20040930.asp
'The best films of F.W. Murnau are numinous because the director fuses
psychological insights with dazzling pictorial beauty. Murnau shapes
his images, such as the trolley ride from the country into the city in
his masterpiece "Sunrise," to reflect the evolving inner lives of his
characters. Murnau's supple visuals, from the giddy sensuality of the
exotic in "Tabu" to the playful surrealism of "Faust" and the Teutonic
mechanics of abasement in "The Last Laugh," invite introspection, not
simply surprise.'
unglued
moviePig skrev:
>
>
> I got 'Against the Day' from the library, and found it very tough
> going... in the sense that I got no indication from my hundred or so
> pages that, at the end of the book's thousand or so pages, I'd say,
> "Wow, I'm glad I read that." I haven't read any other Pynchon, but
> can readily see he's a sharp cookie. Still, I'm looking for a
> credible 'why' before I'll make the serious time commitment to finish
> his book (instead of, say, a dozen genre thrillers).
If you didn't get a buzz out of the first hundred pages you won't get
one from the remaining 985 either. Unlike a genre thriller the payoff
isn't the last page but every page along the way, the writing either
carries you along or dumps you in the ditch. Different strokes for
different folks.
Harkness
So, I'm guessing it worked on you. And more than once.
John Harkness
moviePig
Actually, the writing did somewhat "carry me along" (else I'd never
have made even the hundred pages). But yeah, I probably have a
typical reader's addiction to 'payoffs'. Now, a sufficient payoff
might be merely the shallow one of having finished an important
book... but I guess the certainty of that importance will take time to
know.
mut...@yahoo.com
>
> So, I'm guessing it worked on you. And more than once.
Oh, I'm sure. As often as your anus splurged in its youth.
unglued
moviePig skrev:
unglued
unglued skrev:
> moviePig skrev:
>
> > On Feb 10, 12:43 pm, "unglued" <dragons...@spray.se> wrote:
> > > moviePig skrev:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I got 'Against the Day' from the library, and found it very tough
> > > > going... in the sense that I got no indication from my hundred or so
> > > > pages that, at the end of the book's thousand or so pages, I'd say,
> > > > "Wow, I'm glad I read that." I haven't read any other Pynchon, but
> > > > can readily see he's a sharp cookie. Still, I'm looking for a
> > > > credible 'why' before I'll make the serious time commitment to finish
> > > > his book (instead of, say, a dozen genre thrillers).
> > >
> > > If you didn't get a buzz out of the first hundred pages you won't get
/> > > one from the remaining 985 either. Unlike a genre thriller the
payoff
> > > isn't the last page but every page along the way, the writing either
> > > carries you along or dumps you in the ditch. Different strokes for
> > > different folks.
> >
> > Actually, the writing did somewhat "carry me along" (else I'd never
> > have made even the hundred pages). But yeah, I probably have a
> > typical reader's addiction to 'payoffs'. Now, a sufficient payoff
> > might be merely the shallow one of having finished an important
> > book... but I guess the certainty of that importance will take time to
> > know.
> >
(Sorry 'bout that). Aren't you just a liiiiitle bit curious about how
he's going to tie up all those disparate threads ?
sirblob
> "shattering asses" <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >i done heared that his latest book 'against the day' is a great
> >novel.
>
> You've been reading The New Criterion again. But, hey, that's ok
> because it's a good sheet.
>
> ____
no it isnt. and its only fanboys are idiots.
moviePig
A little. Maybe even enough...
moviePig
(Wow. I'm all in favor of a good, creatively graphic insult. But this
one may need an instruction manual...)
Adam Funk
>> Sssuurrree... If you're an aging fart who still believes flashing one
>> of his titles will get a chick into bed.
>
> So, I'm guessing it worked on you. And more than once.
"Gah," Oedipa screamed, and fled, Nefastis snapping his fingers
through the dark rooms behind her in a hippy-dippy, oh-go-ahead-
then-chick fashion he had doubtless learned from watching the
TV also.
--
Fortran: You shoot yourself in each toe, iteratively, until you run
out of toes, then you read in the next foot and repeat. If you run
out of bullets, you continue anyway because you have no
exception-handling.
Kingo Gondo
http://www.lastgasp.com/d/30447/
The most explicit scene with the dominatrix should be, uh, interesting.
shattering asses
actually, my library dropped new criterion some yrs back. i found out
about pynchon in the review of his book by rosenbaum, usually movie
critic of the Reader.
David Oberman
>> You've been reading The New Criterion again. But, hey, that's ok
>> because it's a good sheet.
>>
>actually, my library dropped new criterion some yrs back. i found out
>about pynchon in the review of his book by rosenbaum, usually movie
>critic of the Reader.
http://www.newcriterion.com/archives/25/02/pynchons-progress/
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