In the Heat of the Night

[Adam H. Kerman]

Now, this is a classic movie, but I've always been puzzled that the two
sequels were set in San Francisco.

In the original novel, Virgil was on the Pasadena police force, several
hundred miles from San Francisco.

Does anyone know why, in the movie, Virgil came from Philadelphia? I don't
recall if there was a line of dialogue at the beginning of They Call Me
Mister TIBBS! explaining the change in setting.

[Stephen DeMay]

possibly because a key point in the film has Tibbs waiting for a train to Philly, no trains to L A and would take too long to go cross country by train any way.

[TT]

Adam H. Kerman kirjoitti 29.7.2017 klo 5:12:
> Now, this is a classic movie

I find that many Poitier films are great...

[Stephen DeMay]

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 6:30:09 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> Adam H. Kerman kirjoitti 29.7.2017 klo 5:12:
> > Now, this is a classic movie
>

> I find that many Poitier films are great... After 1967 he be nobody

[Stephen DeMay]

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:12:32 PM UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Just think of all the changes of trains, taxis and planes needed to get from the deep South to Pasadena... modern hustle and bustle , a bore ..better he take the choo choo from down home to back home... be funkay ... A good screenwriter would know this be the way to go.

[TT]

He had already been in around 10 all-time great classics...

[Adam H. Kerman]

Sparta was an Illinois Central town. The railroad was shown repeatedly.
His train came from Chicago. If he came to Chicago by train from
Philadelphia, one assumes it would have been the PRR and that required
him to change terminals in Chicago.

Philadelphia to Mississippi without changing trains? I don't think so.

[Stephen DeMay]

Maybe Mississippi to Pennsylvania tho, most all those Southern lines go North and that particular train just may have gone thu Philly . Anyway the possibility is enough to let the viewer think so.

[Bill Anderson]

You can do it today on the Crescent.

https://www.amtrak.com/crescent-train

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

[Adam H. Kerman]

You are absolutely correct, and the Southern may have run through to
New York on the Pennsy in the early 1960s as well. And I might been
satisfied with Stephen's theory, except we were shown an Illinois Central
town quite prominently to let us know that Virgil had just come from Chicago.

[Stephen DeMay]

the film was shot in Illinois as you probably know because people in the South would not cotton to the script. If the production called for a train they took what was there. Few people , including me, were aware of the line.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Except for all the signs and markings? I only recently read that it
was shot in Illinois, but the IC would have been the major railroad
taking people between Mississippi and Chicago, so there was nothing
wrong with using an IC town.

[Stephen DeMay]

In the film the train was a train to 99.9% of movie goers.

[luisb...@aol.com]

You know the unbelievably sad thing about this comment? It isn't meant to be funny. It's meant to be serious.

[Stephen DeMay]

Believe you're a bore, that's neither sad nor funny

[Stephen DeMay]

On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 12:33:08 AM UTC-4, luisb...@aol.com wrote:

Pearls to swine

[Adam H. Kerman]

No, I think anyone with half a brain cell had a clew that the railroad,
called the Illinois Central, went to Chicago, not to mention it was
one of two major north-south railroads serving Mississippi.

Look: You're being a total ignoramus. Illinois Central was key to the
black migration. Every school child who learned anything about 20th
century American history knows this. Certain Chicago newspapers, like
the Chicago Defender, convinced blacks living in the south that they
could escape lynching and come north for a better life. It wasn't
as bad as poor white immigrants from Europe being told that the
streets of America were paved with gold and they should cross the Atlantic
to escape Europe's non-stop warfare, but it was pretty close.

Pullman porters would brings bundles of Chicago newspapers to the south
for distribution via the Illinois Central. It was simply too difficult
to be a black newspaper publisher in the south. The train, itself, would
be used for migration, and for people like Virgil who were travelling
from Chicago to visit older relatives who themselves never made the
migration.

Illinois Central had a large demand for passenger business well into
the 1960s, unlike many other railroads, because of these factors.

This is pretty basic United States history.

[Adam H. Kerman]

super70s <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:

>I've said it before but there were at least 3 films up for Best Picture
>Oscar that year that I like much better.

Ok.

The Academy had nominated a pretty weak field. Guess Who's Coming
to Dinner (also with Sydney Poitier) is no one's favorite Tracy-Hepburn
picture. Doctor Doolittle is a lousy musical, but I guess the special
effects were impressive.

Bonnie and Clyde is an excellent movie. Anne Bancroft gives a fine
performance in The Graduate, nominated for both best picture and lead
actress; she'd lose to Katherine Hepburn, which was ridiculous. At least
Bancroft had won previously for The Miracle Worker. Even Audrey Hepburn
was nominated for Wait Until Dark. Like Bancroft, she'd previously won
for one of her best performance, Roman Holiday, so it's not like the
Academy had snubbed her.

What movies did you prefer that year that didn't even get nominated?

[Stephen DeMay]

If you don't recognize the infinite superiority of In The Heat of the Night to those other films you're a sorry SOB

[Stephen DeMay]

I have not a clue what the fuck you're writing about. Tibbs lived in Philadelphia he got on a train in Mississippi to go home to Philly. The change in cities could have been for the reason I offered. Makes sense ,the only real response is maybe, maybe not. You evidence the most salient quality of the masses,..hold onto a bad idea like a dog with a bone. - fine -

[Michael OConnor]

> What movies did you prefer that year that didn't even get nominated?

I think Cool Hand Luke should have been nominated for BP in place of Doctor Doolittle.

I can understand the nominations for Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, as everybody knew Tracy was dying and it would be his final film, and the plot was illogical if you think about it. I never understood what Poitier saw in the daughter, as he was obviously very intelligent and sophisticated and she was sorta flaky and nothing like her parents, and if the parents had met Poitier at a party or event, they all would have hit if off and been good friends immediately. The acting was also solid.

I also think In the Heat of the Night was a superb film, an acting tour de force by both Poitier and Steiger, as two polar opposites who had to work together and wound up respecting one another.

As for Best Picture, I don't think there was a clear-cut choice. On the one hand, you had the ultra-violent (at the time) Bonnie and Clyde, which was controversial in it was the bloodiest and most violent major mainstream film made to that point. Hollywood was probably not quite ready to honor such a movie with it's highest honor.

Doctor Doolittle was frankly a poor choice, and of the remaining three, it's a tossup. I don't have a problem with In the Heat of the Night getting Best Picture.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Stephen DeMay <neo...@webtv.net> wrote:

>I have not a clue what the fuck you're writing about. Tibbs lived in
>Philadelphia he got on a train in Mississippi to go home to Philly. The
>change in cities could have been for the reason I offered. Makes sense
>,the only real response is maybe, maybe not. You evidence the most
>salient quality of the masses,..hold onto a bad idea like a dog with a
>bone. - fine -

Yeah. You've made your cluefulness quite clear all along.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Infinite? Hyperbolize much?

[Adam H. Kerman]

Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:

>>What movies did you prefer that year that didn't even get nominated?

>I think Cool Hand Luke should have been nominated for BP in place of

>Doctor Doolittle. . . .

Good thought. At least George Kennedy won.

What we have here... is a failure to communicate.

[TT]

Michael OConnor kirjoitti 1.8.2017 klo 21:36:
>
>> What movies did you prefer that year that didn't even get nominated?
>
> I think Cool Hand Luke should have been nominated for BP in place of Doctor Doolittle.
>

Definitely. Cool Hand Luke and The Graduate are two of the very few
films I ever rated a 10, masterpieces of cinema...

Incredibly high level for candidates that year.

I'm not a fan of Dolittle and imo Guess who's coming... is ok-good, not
great. But all the rest are great films...

And yes, Hepburn getting Oscar over Bancroft was strange decision to say
the least. Hepburn very much deserved her Oscar the next year thoug
(Lion in Winter... O'Toole should have won as well).

At least Kennedy got a supporting Oscar for Luke...

[TT]

Adam H. Kerman kirjoitti 2.8.2017 klo 1:02:
> Good thought. At least George Kennedy won.

Heck, I just wrote the same thing.
Great minds...

[Adam H. Kerman]

TT <as...@dprk.kp> wrote:
>Michael OConnor kirjoitti 1.8.2017 klo 21:36:

>>>What movies did you prefer that year that didn't even get nominated?

>>I think Cool Hand Luke should have been nominated for BP in place of Doctor Doolittle.

>Definitely. Cool Hand Luke and The Graduate are two of the very few
>films I ever rated a 10, masterpieces of cinema...

I like The Graduate for Anne Bancroft and various supporting performances,
like William Daniels. Dustin Hoffman's comic performance is quite outstanding.
My problem with the movie is that Benjamin is supposed to be the hero
of the movie, but he's such a little shit.

>Incredibly high level for candidates that year.

>I'm not a fan of Dolittle and imo Guess who's coming... is ok-good, not
>great. But all the rest are great films...

There's no way they were in the top five in quality that year.

>And yes, Hepburn getting Oscar over Bancroft was strange decision to say
>the least. Hepburn very much deserved her Oscar the next year thoug
>(Lion in Winter... O'Toole should have won as well).

>At least Kennedy got a supporting Oscar for Luke...

+1

[TT]

Adam H. Kerman kirjoitti 2.8.2017 klo 1:19:
> TT <as...@dprk.kp> wrote:
>> Michael OConnor kirjoitti 1.8.2017 klo 21:36:
>
>>>> What movies did you prefer that year that didn't even get nominated?
>
>>> I think Cool Hand Luke should have been nominated for BP in place of Doctor Doolittle.
>
>> Definitely. Cool Hand Luke and The Graduate are two of the very few
>> films I ever rated a 10, masterpieces of cinema...
>
> I like The Graduate for Anne Bancroft and various supporting performances,
> like William Daniels. Dustin Hoffman's comic performance is quite outstanding.
> My problem with the movie is that Benjamin is supposed to be the hero
> of the movie, but he's such a little shit.
>

lol

Can't say that I agree though.

Benjamin did have some metamorphosis once he got laid. Sort of an
essential coming of age movie (no pun intended!)...

[TT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ

[Stephen DeMay]

Your penchant to prattle reaches the infinite and beyond

[luisb...@aol.com]

To the Infinite and Beyond!!!!

[Halmyre]

On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 7:36:42 PM UTC+1, Michael OConnor wrote:
> > What movies did you prefer that year that didn't even get nominated?
>
> I think Cool Hand Luke should have been nominated for BP in place of Doctor Doolittle.
>

It beggars belief that Dolittle was ever nominated. Interestingly, Sammy Davis Jnr was cast for a part that was eventually written out, but Rex Harrison had wanted him replaced by...Sidney Poitier.

The making of Dolittle sounds like a right hoot, almost up there with Apocalypse Now.

[Stephen DeMay]

That you believe, I suppose, your " posts " have any value explains your taste in film.

[Stephen DeMay]

Dr. Doolittle has one fine scene. I'd be surprised if anyone here knows which one.

[luisb...@aol.com]

I prefer Mexican language cinema from almost any era. Akim Tamaroff is my favorite actor from the golden age, diva though he be. I reject any WW2 film that isn't set in a sub. I've never rated a Mumblecore film less than 7.5/10 and my favorite actors are "actor's actors" like Danny Aiello, Toby McGuire, and Liam Neeson. The best directors I have found are Scott B and Beth B (Scott and Beth B). So consider not giving lectures on taste in film.

[Stephen DeMay]

Typical cinemaniac mumbo jumbo

[luisb...@aol.com]

You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her think.

[Stephen DeMay]

A whore likes to fuck you are one

[luisb...@aol.com]

QED

[TT]

luisb...@aol.com kirjoitti 3.8.2017 klo 5:22:
> I've never rated a Mumblecore film less than 7.5/10

Me neither. Or above.

[luisb...@aol.com]

Definitely not above.

[Stephen DeMay]

UYA

[Stephen DeMay]

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:18:25 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:

monkeys sucking each other's dicks

[Stephen DeMay]

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:18:25 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:

you're pushing SL Greg and Ahearn for the worst tag team ever title

[TT]

To those whose talents are above mediocrity, the highest subjects may be
announced. To those who are below mediocrity, the highest subjects may
not be announced.

[Stephen DeMay]

Not to worry Hank when somethings in the works I'll give you a hoot and a holler