Woody Allen jokes about his ex-wife's rape on Dick Cavett...

[madar...@gmail.com]

This clip isolates the part with the joke in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8IBzDKxx8

If Woody's legions of feminist supporters heard this "joke," which makes light of his ex-wife Louise Lasser's rape, from anyone else (well, except Bill Clinton), they'd be calling for his castration and execution, not necessarily in that order. But the Woodman gets a pass.

[wlah...@gmail.com]

On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 3:18:41 PM UTC-4, SLGreg wrote:

> That particular interview was held 44 years ago. Times have changed.

Has anyone seen Hitchcock's Frenzy lately? There's a joke about a rape murder in which the police officer says that every cloud has a silver lining meaning that the murder is the cloud and the rape is the silver lining.

[Obveeus]

On 4/24/2015 3:18 PM, SLGreg wrote:

> That particular interview was held 44 years ago. Times have changed.

The joke holds up, though.

[moviePig]

It's funny (imo), but also, afaics, pre-written -- which I'd have
guessed Cavett was above.

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On 4/24/2015 4:06 PM, SLGreg wrote:

> Yeah, it seemed scripted with Cavett providing the set-up. I laughed,
> too. I wish that Woody was still around.

That wish was my thought, too. He actually seemed like a grownup with a
wicked sense of humor.

[trotsky]

I wish that kind of talk show was still around.

[Invid Fan]

In article <553a9fbc$0$44424$c3e8da3$66d3...@news.astraweb.com>,

It's one of his standup bits.

--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

[gtr]

It's not a joke, per se. Just a bon mot. In this particular case he
was *retelling* a bon mot that was the *basis* of a lawsuit! For
anyone with a frontal lobe in 2015, a lawsuit IS the metaphoric
equivalent of castration and execution. Anyone arguing for castration
and execution for free speech is probably going to be the target of
their OWN lawsuit!

[nick...@gmail.com]

There's a bit in the seventies giallo Autopsy where Mimsy Farmer's husband chases off her would-be rapist and says, "can't blame the bastard for trying."

[nick...@gmail.com]

I suppose making a joke about your ex-wife getting raped is the sign of a grown-up with a wicked sense of humor. To me it was a couple of boy's club insiders having a laugh at the expense of someone they don't like.

[gtr]

On 2015-04-25 00:38:30 +0000, nick...@gmail.com said:

> I suppose making a joke about your ex-wife getting raped is the sign of
> a grown-up with a wicked sense of humor. To me it was a couple of
> boy's club insiders having a laugh at the expense of someone they don't
> like.

Every time two men speak it is "boy's club" and even when on television
they must be "insiders", and of course all laughs by men are "at the
expense of women", but sometimes you have to look really really hard.
That's what having a penis means in 2015.

But in this case--it was a story about a LAWSUIT! Did you miss that
part? He was being sued. So what was he being sued for. "Sorry Dick,
if I told you I would have to make it sad and maudlin, for I have a
penis and must be punished.

[John Doe]

gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> nick...@gmail.com said:
>
>> I suppose making a joke about your ex-wife getting raped

I believe it was an allegation at the time, but don't let facts disturb
your prejudice. We all know there's no such thing as a false rape
allegation...

>> is the sign of a grown-up with a wicked sense of humor. To me it was
>> a couple of boy's club insiders having a laugh at the expense of
>> someone they don't like.
>
> Every time two men speak it is "boy's club"

lol

It was a good joke. Like (I think) Woody Allen said in some other movie
"Comedy is hostility".

> and even when on television they must be "insiders", and of course all
> laughs by men are "at the expense of women", but sometimes you have to
> look really really hard. That's what having a penis means in 2015.

In 2015 and beyond.

> But in this case--it was a story about a LAWSUIT! Did you miss that
> part? He was being sued. So what was he being sued for. "Sorry
> Dick, if I told you I would have to make it sad and maudlin, for I
> have a penis and must be punished.

It's a good subject for discussion on YouTube.

YouTube where there are lots more females (without penis) has become a
good discussion forum. I miss UseNet threading, but love being able to
block others from seeing my posts. It's always been something I wish
UseNet had. Too many UseNet posters trolling someone while simultaneously
pretending to dislike the person. Don't like it? Then they don't see it.
That's the way it should be. I wonder how Google figured it out.
Hopefully the ability to block others from seeing your posts isn't just
a temporary pleasure on YouTube. I would start using Google groups if it
worked the same way. When I recently tried, it looked like a
disorganized mess.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <mhe60t$2sh$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

LOL, yes, yes it does.

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[HardyBoys.us]

On 4/24/2015 8:16 PM, gtr wrote:

> Anyone arguing for castration and execution
> for free speech is probably going to be the target of their OWN lawsuit!
>

You sound like just another halfwit blowhard who clearly doesn't
understand what the 1st Amendment guaranty of free speech actually is.
I'd explain it to you but I'd have to use words of more than two syllables.

[wlah...@gmail.com]

On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 11:17:13 PM UTC-4, HardyBoys.us wrote:
>
> You sound like just another halfwit blowhard who clearly doesn't
> understand what the 1st Amendment guaranty of free speech actually is.
> I'd explain it to you but I'd have to use words of more than two syllables.

Hey, gtr, you have a new pet. He makes a lot of noise but has a toothless bite. Don't feed him and never, ever get him wet.

[John Doe]

Stardust Memories (1980)
One of the 200+ movies I watched that year.

[gtr]

On 2015-04-25 04:55:30 +0000, wlah...@gmail.com said:

> On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 11:17:13 PM UTC-4, HardyBoys.us wrote:

[snip]

> Hey, gtr, you have a new pet. He makes a lot of noise but has a
> toothless bite. Don't feed him and never, ever get him wet.

If you wouldn't quote it, I wouldn't have to scrape it off my shoes.
In fact I had forgotten he was around...

[trotsky]

Especially when you're a misogynist and closet homosexual.

[HardyBoys.us]

Describing yourself, Willie?

[moviePig]

I saw it as a pun within a feuding couple, not as a salvo in The War
Between Men And Women.

[trotsky]

The only thing I find weird here is that wee willie *constantly* makes
trolling remarks like this and won't admit that he's a troll. He seems
content with being a liar and a hypocrite.

[nick...@gmail.com]

I've got nothing more to say on this. Since the idiot trollboys have hijacked the thread, 'tis time for me to go elsewhere.

[trotsky]

Weird, I can't find anything more disingenuous than you trying to talk
about humor. You have the sense of humor of a doorknob.

[hislop]

You are sentenced to be hung by the neck until you cheer up.

[wlah...@gmail.com]

Ooops. Yes, the trolls have arrived. Tata.

[gtr]

On 2015-04-25 16:30:09 +0000, wlah...@gmail.com said:

> Ooops. Yes, the trolls have arrived. Tata.

I live in a nice neighborhood with good-sized yards that's become
somewhat genetrified since we've lived here. As a result there was
always somebody knocking on the door pimping gardening services,
remodeling work, curb-painting, "magazine sales", security services,
cable/internet services and the big one: Jesus sales. Primarily these
are Mormons (with a nearby temple) and Jehovah's Witness. We're in a
cul-de-sac and I can see them parking on the street and and milling
about before knocking on every last door. This, every 2-3 months.

I put a sign on the door "We're Jewish". They knocked anyway. I said,
"Didn't you read the sign?" Their response, "That's okay--we don't
mind!"

So then I printed this one up in a large font, and put it behind a
glass pane in the door.

NO SOLICITORS
NO CHRISTIANISTS

Not for yard services, magazines,
roofing, gas line inspections, curb painting,
or anything else.

It's been about 4 years and I've had only ONE person knock! They stood
back about 10 feet from the door, as I opened it. She said, "Political
poll--it's not on your list." It wasn't, and I gladly did the poll. I
could not *believe* my lucky accident with this sign. I was somewhat
aggravated to know I could have done it 12 years earlier.

Killfiles, on the other hand, I picked up on right away!

[wlah...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 4:29:28 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:

> Killfiles, on the other hand, I picked up on right away!

I'm tempted to get a newsreader and killfile them except they sometimes really make my day. Like when trotsky accused me of tossing out the name of an obscure director and it was Cecil B DeMille. And HardlyABoy rants and raves about my talking about films no one has ever heard of as if that's a crime in a forum devoted to film. You gotta love it. That these guys are so obsessed with me is a real compliment. And that obsession is apparently blinding since I can wiggle something shiny in the water and they rise to the bait. Almost every time. I guess trotsky knows more than just catfishing. And HardlyABoy is still stuck in the Plan 9 / Robot Monster vortex. Every time they post, the ignorance and anger dribbles down their chins. At least HardlyABoy isn't obsessed with my genitalia as trotsky is. Or maybe it's only a matter of time.

[gtr]

Everybody has their own interests, but sadly 90% of theirs holds no
interest for me. I do find bona fide usenet nuts interesting for
awhile, and occasionally downright funny, but in the end it's more like
the incessant barking of a neighborhood dog. A repetitive distraction
easily avoided. Remember, if you get any utility out of trolls, that
you can always turn your killfile off and on. It's not a permanent
thing like a tattoo or anything.

[wlah...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 4:49:21 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:

> Everybody has their own interests, but sadly 90% of theirs holds no
> interest for me. I do find bona fide usenet nuts interesting for
> awhile, and occasionally downright funny, but in the end it's more like
> the incessant barking of a neighborhood dog. A repetitive distraction
> easily avoided. Remember, if you get any utility out of trolls, that
> you can always turn your killfile off and on. It's not a permanent
> thing like a tattoo or anything.

My tenure here is coming to a close anyway, so any further investment seems foolhardy. It isn't the trolls who amuse me that are driving me away as much as it is the gobsmacker thread. What a depressing expression of a juvenile mentality. This forum seems to be best described as Anger and Nothingness. One or the other . . .

[trotsky]

Now that's irony.

[trotsky]

On 4/25/15 3:41 PM, wlah...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 4:29:28 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:
>
>> Killfiles, on the other hand, I picked up on right away!
>
> I'm tempted to get a newsreader and killfile them except they sometimes really make my day. Like when trotsky accused me of tossing out the name of an obscure director and it was Cecil B DeMille.

Another lie--what new?

[HardyBoys.us]

On 4/25/2015 5:03 PM, wlah...@gmail.com wrote:

> My tenure here is coming to a close anyway, so any further investment seems foolhardy.

Who do you think you are kidding?
You'll never leave, Willie, you just love coming here to bloviate pompously.
So, as usual, you're full of shit...

[wlah...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 4:49:21 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:

Remember, if you get any utility out of trolls, that
> you can always turn your killfile off and on. It's not a permanent
> thing like a tattoo or anything.

Like I said, dangle something shiny and out they come with their bile and stupidity. The trick is getting boring but they're so dependable.

[HardyBoys.us]

On 4/25/2015 8:51 PM, wlah...@gmail.com wrote:

> Like I said, dangle something shiny and out they come with their bile and stupidity. The trick is getting boring but they're so dependable.
>

Ah Willie, the crown prince of self-delusion...

[trotsky]

He reminds me of that scene from "What about Bob?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKymngWgJw

Actually, willie is like Bob and Dr. Leo Marvin all rolled into one.

[trotsky]

Make sure to tell your mental health professional that "they" are doing
this to you.

[Iva Bonar]

I don't know but I've heard somewhere that William Ahearn farts in
pickle jars and screws the lid on.
Later, when "they" are persecuting him, he opens the jars to savor the
aroma and chant "Only I know what noir is!".

[trotsky]

That sounds very credible, actually.

[Iva Bonar]

William is very excited now, what with all his talk of boners and
showing them to people.
Is that how you get your kicks, Mr. Bill?

[Jerome Pudwill]

On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 12:11:46 PM UTC-7, madar...@gmail.com wrote:
> This clip isolates the part with the joke in it:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8IBzDKxx8
>
> If Woody's legions of feminist supporters heard this "joke," which makes light of his ex-wife Louise Lasser's rape, from anyone else (well, except Bill Clinton), they'd be calling for his castration and execution, not necessarily in that order. But the Woodman gets a pass.

Just for the record, the crack wasn't about Allen's first wife - not Louise Lasser, who was his second wife and with whom he later worked.

[Bill Anderson]

His first wife, whom he was joking about, was Harlene Rosen.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/woody-allens-first-wife-harlene-6748481

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