10 sexiest actresses of the last 20 years

[James]

Sinead Cusack
Helen Mirren
Cate Blanchett
Helen Hunt
Ellen Barkin
Mercedes Ruehl
Juliette Lewis
Parker Posey
Emma Thompson
Sissy Spacek

///James

[juan]

have you gone frickin' mad? what kind of a choice is that? what kind of a
planet do you come from? what kind of testosterone is that? what? why? when?
how? you must be a stark raving looonatic, from a stark raving looonatic
asylum? How? what, how could u ever put helen hunt there, jeez? and emma
thompson, gewd? and besides, i thought cate blanchett had drowned somewhere
in the atlantic ocean? and ellen barkin, hmm, a bit too old fer me, plus i
have no liking for the cardboard characters and superficial filmmaking
darren aranofsky does, even though thats beside the point.

moving on from my fevered reaction- making myself clear that i dont agree
with ya- here are my suggestions, which arent necessarily the definite ones:

irene jacob
irene jacob
irene jacob
irene jacob

and on a different level

julie delpy
brooke adams
and others either i've forgotten of, or have never encountered.

juan

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[James L. Neibaur]

In regard to the original post, I dont think Sissy Spacek would qualify as
being from the past 20 years. She was in films during the seventies.

And I love shallow, superficial lists like these, so.....

Jennifer Connelly
Phoebe Cates
Mia Sara
Madelyn Stowe
Milla Jovovich (sp?)

and a whole bunch of really young ones (18-20 years old) that I am ashamed to
list because I am past forty.

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[Wull]

Nor is she the least bit sexy JN. (Sissy)
I like your list except for Mia Sara. I do like her but I consider her a plain
Jane.
I do not know Jennifer Connelly.
I have seen Jovovich only in the Jeanne D'Arc movie and she screamed too much to
be sexy.
But Cates and Stowe, you do have sexy.

Wull-who will say that I think that LuLu Sobieski (sp) is very sexy and I am
older than you JN, :-)

[Jim Powers]

Geena Davis
Kelly McGillis
Rebecca DeMornay
Sigourney Weaver
Mira Sorvino
Robin Wright
Kyra Sedgwick

[steve]

Emmanuelle Beart (in "Manon.." especially)

steve
--
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[Kiara]

Oh, c'mon. Do tell.

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[Matt Heaton]

Are these your choices or is this a list you've read? Damn, those are some
unsexy actresses there. Sissy Spacek? Helen Mirren?

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[Arminius]

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Yes, I think we can top these (although Barkin is a favorite of mine):

Juliette Binoche
Salma Hayek
Kim Basinger
Denise Richards
Jackie Bisset (a little early, but still a stunner)
Angelina Jolie
Elle MacPherson
Anne Parillaud (amazing face)
Michelle Pfeiffer
Julianne Moore (not nearly as pretty as, say, Cindy Crawford, but she does
have that certian something)

These are just off the top of my head. I could be wrong.

--
Arminius

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You've got to understand the rules
If an officer stops you
Promise you'll always be polite,
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Promise Mama you'll keep your hands in sight"
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[David Matthews]

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Different strokes I guess but Emma Thompson??

Dave
> >
> >
>
>

[andy749]

Cathy Moriarity
Theresa Russell
Margaret Avery ( in The Color Purple)

[James L. Neibaur]

I certainly would not knock anyone else's list, because it is all so
subjective, but I am surprised at the number of actresses listed as "sexy" whom
I find to be --- well -- ugly. Eye of the beholder I guess.

(kicking myself for not having included Michelle Pfeiffer on my list)

[James L. Neibaur]

I stated:

> and a whole bunch of really young ones (18-20 years old) that I am ashamed
to list because I am past forty.

whereupon Kiara replied:

>Oh, c'mon. Do tell.

so my list of sexy actresses whom I shouldnt list because they are way too
goddamn young for me to be looking at, include....

Jennifer Love Hewitt
Katie Holmes
Lacey Chabert
Mena Suvari
Christina Ricci
Natasha Lyonne
Natalie Portman
Beverley Mitchell

and I am going straight to hell for this, no detours.

[Matt Heaton]

Sissy (ugh) has worked during the 80s and 90s. She was in JFK. (last 10
years)

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[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< and I am going straight to hell for this, no detours. >>

Then I'll save you a (hot)seat!

[lastan...@webtv.net]

Re: 10 Sexiest Actresses of last 20 years

Jennifer Lopez
Ellen Barkin
Angela Bassett
Sharon Stone
Whitney Houston
Juliet Binoche
Penelope Cruz
Julia Roberts
Robin Wright
Viveca A. Fox

Lam

[Mack Twamley]

"David Matthews" <dmatt...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > Different

strokes I guess but Emma Thompson??
>
> Dave

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
damn straight Emma Thompson.
In fact when Branagh threw her over for little Helena Bonham Carter, I
realized that he no longer had good taste in women.

How come nobody has mentioned Gwyneth Paltrow? Too cold and distant? not
really.

But Helen Mirren? Well, I'm at least a decade and a half older than she is,
and I'd never date her because she is just....too.....old (and
unattractive). Good actress though.

There's something about Madeleine Stowe that is incredibly sexy, but I
forget what it is!

[David Matthews]

> But Helen Mirren? Well, I'm at least a decade and a half older than she
is,
> and I'd never date her because she is just....too.....old (and
> unattractive). Good actress though.
>

Actually she looked pretty good in the nude. (Royal Deceit 1994).

Dave

[Steve Oldham]

On Sat, 12 May 2001 18:38:27 -0700, "Mack Twamley"
<mack...@inland.net> wrote:

>There's something about Madeleine Stowe that is incredibly sexy, but I
>forget what it is!

Which reminds me....I think Andie MacDowell is incredibly sexy. She
has various attributes that I like but it's her intelligence that ties
it all together. In that same vein, I find Pamela Anderson Lee
extremely unsexy.

For a woman to be sexy she has to be smart enough to be not easily
impressed or bedded.

Oh, Debra Winger.

Steve

[Michael Hafer]

Gwyneth Paltrow
Catherine Zeta Jones
Cate Blanchet
Andy McDowell
Kate Winslet
Nicole deBoer
Winona Ryder
Connie Nielsen
Ashley Judd
Rachel Weisz

Michael Hafer

[Michael Hafer]

Woops...replace Rachel Weisz with Marissa Tomei. Loved her in "What Women
Want."

Michael Hafer

[Dean Eaton]

My two cents' worth, in no particular order:
Greta Schacci
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio (the thinking man's sex symbol)
Susan Sarandon
Madeleine Stowe
Jamie Lee Curtis
Bridget Fonda
Ashley Judd
Rene Russo
Alexandra Paul
Mary-Louise Parker
Kim Cattral
And for the D.O.M. in me, Kirsten Dunst...
Dean
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[steve]

On 12-May-2001, jimn...@aol.combatant (James L. Neibaur) wrote:

> so my list of sexy actresses whom I shouldnt list because they are way too
> goddamn young for me to be looking at, include....
>
> Jennifer Love Hewitt
> Katie Holmes
> Lacey Chabert
> Mena Suvari
> Christina Ricci
> Natasha Lyonne
> Natalie Portman
> Beverley Mitchell
>
> and I am going straight to hell for this, no detours.

What, no Olsen twins? And unless that is Natalie Portman in her early
career ("The Professional") you have no reason to fear damnation. These
girls are all fair game, biologically speaking. You are far from anything
remotely resembling perversion, so relax and enjoy.

[Ian McDowell]

Brigitte Lin
Maggie Cheung
Cheung Man (Sharla Cheung)
Michelle Reis
Elina Lowensohn
Lisa Marie (I wish Tim Burton would use his girlfriend for more than cameos)
Anna Falchi
Salma Hayak
Angelina Jolie*
Kate Winslett
Sigourney Weaver
Mimi Rogers
Uma Thurman

*Although she's faling victim to the same kind of crackwhore gauntness
that afflicts almost all Hollywood actresses when they make it big; she
looked much better in HACKERS and FOXFIRE than in more recent films.

[Ian McDowell]

In article <9dklal$6m4$0...@dosa.alt.net>, Harald Spyra <HS...@gmx.net> wrote:

>Anne Parillaud
>Linda Fiorentino

Dammit, I forgot those two.

[Andy Averill]

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Not to mention *Gia*. Have hope, though; she looked outstanding at the
Oscars. BTW, the degeneration in looks also applies to Thurman; she looked
outstanding through *Henry and June*, but only average in *Pulp Fiction* and
beyond. Vas ist los?

Also, I am unfamiliar with the first five names on your list. Am I a
Philistine, or are they stars in a subgenre that I do not watch regularly?

[Jeff Coleman]

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>
> Ian McDowell <ian...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:iankmcd-1305...@pool-63.52.3.103.atln.grid.net...
> > Brigitte Lin
> > Maggie Cheung
> > Cheung Man (Sharla Cheung)
> > Michelle Reis

> Also, I am unfamiliar with the first five names on your list. Am I a

> Philistine, or are they stars in a subgenre that I do not watch regularly?

It wasn't my list, but I'm a fan of these as well--they're stars in Chinese
and Hong Kong films.

Taiwanese Brigitte Lin can be seen in THE BRIDE WITH WHITE HAIR, PEKING
OPERA BLUES and EAST IS RED. She's beautiful and intense, with a wilting
gaze. and many of her more recent roles were extremely powerful women, often
martial artists with incredible powers on the brink of sanity. She retired
a number of years ago.

Maggie Cheung's most recently been in Wong Kar-Wai's IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE,
where she was devsatingly beautiful and elegantly filmed. She's married to
French director Olivier Assayas, who (I believe) directed her as herself in
IRMA VEP. She's been in many dramatic films which I'm not as familiar with,
but she's great in supporting roles in Jackie Chan's POLICE STORY (1, 2 and
3) and PROJECT A Part II. She did action in HEROIC TRIO with CROUCHING
TIGER's Michelle Yeoh and "Chinese Madonna", Anita Mui.

I don't know as much about Cheung Man, but she's been in a lot of movies
with comedian Stephen Chow Sing Chi, such as FIGHT BACK TO SCHOOL (1, 2 and
3), ROYAL TRAMP and GOD OF GAMBLERS 2.

Michelle Reis was cute in SWORDSMAN 2 and FONG SAI YUK, both with Jet Li.

I'd also add Rosamund Kwan (ONCE UPON A TIME IN CHINA 1, 2, and 3) and
PEKING OPERA BLUES.

I'm also partial to another Taiwanese, Shu Qi (Jackie Chan's GORGEOUS).

Jeff
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In article <iankmcd-1305...@pool-63.52.3.103.atln.grid.net>,

Ian McDowell <ian...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Brigitte Lin
>Maggie Cheung
>Cheung Man (Sharla Cheung)
>Michelle Reis
>Elina Lowensohn
>Lisa Marie (I wish Tim Burton would use his girlfriend for more than cameos)
>Anna Falchi
>Salma Hayak
>Angelina Jolie*
>Kate Winslett
>Sigourney Weaver
>Mimi Rogers
>Uma Thurman

Not bad. You're missing Gong Li, though.
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Not with me, unforunately...
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[Kiara]

Is that true? That most guys don't like women that are "too easy". No
matter what they say to the contrary (calling said woman a prude, cold or
gay).

"Steve Oldham" <stev...@rocsoft.net> wrote in message > For a woman to be

[Arminius]

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>
> "David Matthews" <dmatt...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > Different
> strokes I guess but Emma Thompson??
> >
> > Dave
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> damn straight Emma Thompson.
> In fact when Branagh threw her over for little Helena Bonham Carter, I
> realized that he no longer had good taste in women.

She's a good actress, but far from sexy IMHO.

>
> How come nobody has mentioned Gwyneth Paltrow? Too cold and distant?
not
> really.

Too thin for my tastes. She has that decidedly unsexy preadolescent thing
going on.

>
> But Helen Mirren? Well, I'm at least a decade and a half older than she
is,
> and I'd never date her because she is just....too.....old (and
> unattractive). Good actress though.

See *Excalibur*. She did look quite good there.

[Kiara]

I've heard that phrase used a lot.
The "thinking woman's sex symbol" or the
"thinking man's sex symbol".
Is that just a nice way of saying someone's not really attractive in the
conventional/universal sense but she/he has certain charms that somebody in
this planet could possibly appreciate.
Is it a compliment?

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[Ian McDowell]

In article <YXDL6.109478$8D.55...@e420r-sjo2.usenetserver.com>,
"Arminius" <armi...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>Also, I am unfamiliar with the first five names on your list. Am I a
>Philistine, or are they stars in a subgenre that I do not watch regularly?

Brigitte Lin -- star of Taiwanese weepies, soap operas and romantic
comedies from the early 70's until the mid-80's, when she switched
languages and countries, and genres to become a major star ofHong Kong
action films and dramas. American viewers may know her best for 1994's
THE BRIDE WITH WHITE HAIR (it's hard to believe she's in her mid-40's in
this, although she looks more her age in the Making Of documentary
included on the VHS tape and DVD). Retired now. One of her last roles
was the drug smugler/assassin in sunglasses and blonde wig (an homage to
GLORIA) in CHUNGKING EXPRESS, currently being shown on the Sundance
Channel at various times this week. Her role as the tragic
magically-transsexual villain Asia the Invincible in the Jet Li film
SWORDSMAN 2 was the acknowledged inspiration for Xena (which also borrowed
several riffs from BRIDE WITH WHITE HAIR). For some reason, was often
cast in cross-dressing roles in the latter part of her career, starting
with Tsui Hark's classic PEKING OPERA BLUES, in which she played a
revolutionary who prefers a stylish tuxedo to traditional Chinese
clothes. Has the most amazing piercing stare of any actress since the
silent era; one look into those laser beam eyes and you can readily
believe her character is superhuman (she'd have XENA's Lucy Lawless for
breakfast).

Maggie Cheung -- former Miss Hong Kong runner-up and model (born in Kent
-- she sounds very English) first known for playing Jackie Chan's
girlfriend in the POLICE STORY series. Not much of an actress at first,
but cute and funny with a flair for knockabout comedy (she takes some
great pratfalls in the Chan films). She got more gorgeous with age, and
in the 90's suddenly blossomed into one of the best actresses of her
generation, in any country or language. She's amazing in Stanley Kwan's
ACTRESS, aka CENTRE STAGE, the finest biopic of a real-life movie star
I've ever seen, in which she played Ruan Ling Yu, the "Chinese Garbo" who
committed suicide in the early 30's after being slandered in the Shanghai
press (she won Best Actress at the Berlin Film Festival for this). She
has only one scene in Wong Kar-Wai's oblique, frustrating but beautiful
ASHES OF TIME, shot mostly as a tightening close-up on her exquisite
doomed face, but she's the heart and soul of the film. Some American fans
know her mainly as the bustier-and-kneepads wearing, motorcyle-riding,
shotgunning-shooting mercenary Thief Catcher in THE HEROIC TRIO. She's
pretty amazing as the immortal snake spirit adapting to her new human form
in Tsui Hark's gorgeous, goofy, lyrical GREEN SNAKE (recently seen as part
of the Tsui Film Festival in NYC). Just won the Hong Kong Film Critics'
Association Best Actress award for Wong Kar-Wai's IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE.
Can be found in video stores in IRMA VEP (playing herself) and THE CHINESE
BOX (in which she's far more interesting than top-billed Jeremy Irons and
Gong Li). Has also won awards for her roles in RED DUST, DAYS OF BEING
WILD, COMRADES ALMOST A LOVE STORY and THE SOONG SISTERS.

Cheung Man (Sharla Cheung) -- Not nearly as big a star as the above two
(and with nothing like Maggie Cheung's arthouse cachet), but amazingly
beautiful and a quite decent actress in Hong Kong fantasy films and
comedies of the early and mid 90's. She shows up at the end of Stephen
Chiao's GOD OF GAMBLERS: BACK TO SHANGHAI in a little black dress and
makes one forget all the previous footage of Gong Li. I assume she's
retired now, as I've seen no films with her in them since before the
Handover, and youth-obsessed HK audiences have little interest in
actresses over 25 (with a few notable exceptions), much less over 30.

Michelle Reis (Michelle Lee) -- Chinese/Portugese star of various Hong
Kong and Tawainese action films and comedies, such as FONG SAI YUK (where
she was Jet Li's love interest) and SWORDSMAN 2 (where she was Jet's
tomboyish sidekick "Kiddo"). Seems to have graduated to art films. Was
the neurotic, manipulative Agent who arranges Leon Lai's hits in FALLEN
ANGELS (seen on Sundance recently) and masturabates to Laurie Anderson.
More recently in the Taiwanese THE FLOWERS OF SHANGHAI.

Elina Lowensohn -- Hungarian-born actress best known for New York based
indy films. First gained attention in Hal Hartley's SIMPLE MEN (several
critics compared her to a Hungarian Winona Ryder). Also in Hartley's
AMATEUR. Perhaps seen to best advantage in the pretentious but
interesting arthouse vampire comedy NADJA (essentially a remake of
DRACULA'S DAUGHTER), which made great iconic use of her striking face.
Seen in character roles in films like BASQUIAT. Tends to get cast as
hard/brittle/pretentious sophisticates these days, and may not be ageing
as well as the actresses listed above.

[Ian McDowell]

In article <9dn6e2$9u1$1...@news-central.tiac.net>, cpie...@tiac.net (Chris
Pierson) wrote:

>Not bad. You're missing Gong Li, though.

She's certainly beautiful, but doesn't appeal to me as much as her fellow
Chinese divas Brigitte Lin and Maggie Cheung. I get a bit tired of all
the noble suffering in her mainland films, and there's something a bit
frosty about her. Indeed, I much prefer her when she works in Hong Kong
and lets her hair down, flying through the air and shooting rays from her
eyes in an aerial dogfight with Brigitte Lin and SEMI-GODS AND DEMI-DEVILS
(aka THE DRAGON CHRONICLES) and doing a jitter-bug with Stephen Chiao in
the delirious "Roast Pork Buns" number in GOD OF GAMBLERS 3: BACK TO
SHANGHAI.

Still, there's no denying that she's more gorgeous.

[George Skandalidis]

Something is rotten here: I get 35 messages on
this thread without a single mention of Beart.

George Skandalidis
Thessaloniki
Greece

[Dean Eaton]

I tend to define it as someone who is not merely attractive, but also mature
and intelligent. Ms. Mastrantonio has never traded solely on her looks and
has consistenly played strong, smart women. She also is getting more
attractive to me as she gets older, as are Susan Sarandon and Sigourney
Weaver.
Of course, thinking you're the only person in the world who truly
appreciates your partner is part of sex appeal, too. "If only they knew what
I knew..."
I also find all kinds of women attractive, and not necessarily the
conventionally good looking.
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[Arminius]

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> Elina Lowensohn -- Hungarian-born actress best known for New York based
> indy films. First gained attention in Hal Hartley's SIMPLE MEN (several
> critics compared her to a Hungarian Winona Ryder). Also in Hartley's
> AMATEUR. Perhaps seen to best advantage in the pretentious but
> interesting arthouse vampire comedy NADJA (essentially a remake of
> DRACULA'S DAUGHTER), which made great iconic use of her striking face.
> Seen in character roles in films like BASQUIAT. Tends to get cast as
> hard/brittle/pretentious sophisticates these days, and may not be ageing
> as well as the actresses listed above.

Of course! *Nadja* is one of my more interesting moviegoing experiences.
(I saw it on a date; those of you who have seen the film know how ironic
that is.) I'm not sure I'd put her in the same category as some of the
other women in this thread, but I see where you're coming from.

[juan]

isnt she married to that pervy polanski, who had problems with the law for
some intriguing reasons?

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[Brian Dickson]

> "George Skandalidis" <ap...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:3aff6ea5...@news.auth.gr...
> > Something is rotten here: I get 35 messages on
> > this thread without a single mention of Beart.
> >
> >
> > George Skandalidis
> > Thessaloniki
> > Greece

juan wrote:

> isnt she married to that pervy polanski, who had problems with the law for
> some intriguing reasons?

Polanski's married to Emmanuelle Seigner.

-B.

[James L. Neibaur]

Steve stated:

These
girls are all fair game, biologically speaking. You are far from anything
remotely resembling perversion, so relax and enjoy.

-------

Yeah, but at 43 I am a little old to be drooling over 18-21 year olds.
(sigh). That is the basis for my shame.

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[Steve Oldham]

On Mon, 14 May 2001 03:54:24 GMT, "Kiara" <kia...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>Is that true? That most guys don't like women that are "too easy". No
>matter what they say to the contrary (calling said woman a prude, cold or
>gay).

No, most guys like women who are easy. Women who are most interesting
to me would reject "most guys".

Steve

[steve]

On 14-May-2001, jimn...@aol.combatant (James L. Neibaur) wrote:

> Yeah, but at 43 I am a little old to be drooling over 18-21 year olds.
> (sigh). That is the basis for my shame.
>
> JN

Are you kidding?

I have a friend who's 45 and he regularly has sex with girls under 20.

Poor guy doesnt know how misirable he really is (I tell myself).

[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< I have a friend who's 45 and he regularly has sex with girls under 20. >>

Poor sad miserable wretch.

[Steve Oldham]

On Mon, 14 May 2001 21:09:27 GMT, "steve" <st...@steve.com> wrote:

>I have a friend who's 45 and he regularly has sex with girls under 20.
>
>Poor guy doesnt know how misirable he really is (I tell myself).

He may get a clue, however, when he gets the crap knocked out of him
by an irate father.

Damn, I hope there are still irate fathers out there.

Steve

[Kiara]

He's lying.

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[Kiara]

I see.

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[starcro1]

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There are, but they can usually be bribed...

[starcro1]

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> My two cents' worth, in no particular order:
> Greta Schacci

> Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio (the thinking man's sex symbol)

Mastrantonio is a classic sex symbol because she has a beautiful face
and body. Thinking is unnecessary.
You want a thinking man's sex symbol? Try a basically plain-looking
woman who can make you hot with the sheer power of her *acting.*
Glenn Close
Meryl Streep (re: "Sophie's Choice")

[TODD TAMANEND CLARK]

In response to the original post, here is
my list of sexiest actresses of the last twenty years:

01) Angelina Jolie
02) Salma Hayek
03) Vivica A. Fox
04) Andrea Navedo
05) Salli Richardson
06) Apollonia Kotero
07) Sherilyn Fenn
08) Traci Bingham
09) Hyapatia Lee
10) Mimi Rogers

TODD TAMANEND CLARK
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[steve]

On 15-May-2001, "Kiara" <kia...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> He's lying.
>
>
> "steve" <st...@steve.com> wrote in message
> news:9dps6n$e13$1...@bob.news.rcn.net...
> > I have a friend who's 45 and he regularly has sex with girls under 20.
> >
> > Poor guy doesnt know how misirable he really is (I tell myself).
> >
> > steve

He's a photographer. And if he is lying and isnt actually having sex with
these girls, he STILL has photos of them naked, negatives and all. That's
not proof of sex, but its good stuff regardless, and I believe him anyway.
I tell you it's such a scam. He tells girls at parties that he does nudes,
and they offer to pose for him.

Hey, at least I get to see the photos.

[W. Lydecker]

Mimi Rogers? I'd prefer ten minutes with Jane Krakowski. Oh, those
Polish girls!

[Terje Pettersen]

TODD TAMANEND CLARK <tama...@charterpa.net> wrote in message
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I have three words for you... Sarah Michelle Gellar

[the vaunted ramalane]

"Terje Pettersen" <ter...@frisurf.no> wrote in message
news:ITbM6.10472$gX3.7...@news3.oke.nextra.no...

I'm joining this thread late (apologies if I missed them earlier) but where
on the lits is:

Rene Russo
Cameron Diaz
Deborah Kara Unger
Charlize Theron
Izabella Scorupco
Kim Basinger
Annette Bening
Emma Thompson
Sharon Stone
Meg Ryan
Helena Bonham Carter
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
Sandra Bullock
Madeleine Stowe
Wynona Ryder
Ellen Barkin
Rebecca DeMornay

Or are you excluding people who can act?

/ramalane

[*Richie*]

1. Kirsten Dunst
2. Sandra Bullock
3. Elisabeth Shue
4. Mena Suvari
5. Alexandra Holden
6. Angelina Jolie
7. Brittany Murphy
8. Sarah Michelle Gellar
9. Neve Campbell
10. Lucy Liu
the vaunted ramalane <ramalane@cotse_wotse.com> wrote in message
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[the vaunted ramalane]

"*Richie*" <ric...@colc2k.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 1. Kirsten Dunst
> 2. Sandra Bullock
> 3. Elisabeth Shue
> 4. Mena Suvari
> 5. Alexandra Holden
> 6. Angelina Jolie
> 7. Brittany Murphy
> 8. Sarah Michelle Gellar
> 9. Neve Campbell
> 10. Lucy Liu

Of those 10 I only agree with 2 of your choices: Sandy Bullock and Elisabeth
Shue (I hate I didn't have her on my lits). It seems your lits doesn't go
back further than 5 yrs.

/ramalane

[Jac...@faux.aol]

On Tue, 15 May 2001 08:06:24 -0700, "TODD TAMANEND CLARK"
<tama...@charterpa.net> wrote:

>In response to the original post, here is
>my list of sexiest actresses of the last twenty years:
>
>01) Angelina Jolie
>02) Salma Hayek
>03) Vivica A. Fox

never heard of her
>04) Andrea Navedo
or her
>05) Salli Richardson
or her
>06) Apollonia Kotero
or her
>07) Sherilyn Fenn
or her
>08) Traci Bingham
or her
>09) Hyapatia Lee
I've actually met her
>10) Mimi Rogers
I'm not sure who this is either.

JP...I must be getting old

[Jeffrey Davis]

Annie Potts, Annette Benning, Juliette Binoche, Bonnie Hunt, Irene
Jacob, Sophie Marceau, Emily Lloyd, Kate Beckinsale, Katie Holmes, Ziyi
Zhang

--
Jeffrey Davis <res0...@verizon.net>
All fools have still an itching to deride...

[Jeff Butters]

Forgot about Fenn - very good pick.

I add Rosanna Arquette to the mix (especially in "The Executioner's
Song", and the Scorcese picture (title escapes me) with Griffin Dunne.

--Jeff

In article <tg26qqj...@corp.supernews.com>,

TODD TAMANEND CLARK <tama...@charterpa.net> wrote:

[Sunny]

In article <9droj1$1...@flatland.dimensional.com>, jbut...@dimensional.com
says...

>
>
>Forgot about Fenn - very good pick.
>
>I add Rosanna Arquette to the mix (especially in "The Executioner's
>Song", and the Scorcese picture (title escapes me) with Griffin Dunne.

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[*Richie*]

I am only 15 years old. Forgive me please.
Kirsten dunst is the easily the best looking though.

the vaunted ramalane <ramalane@cotse_wotse.com> wrote in message

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[joe fucillo]

Here's an old fogie's list,not in any particular order:
1.Ornella Muti
2.Gong Li
3.Jennifer Connelly
4.Emmanuelle Seigner
5.Asia Argento
6.Isabelle Adjani
7.Carole Bouquet
8.Amanda Donohoe
9.Joey Wong
10.Chingmy Yau

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[juan]

"Brian Dickson" <brian....@alcatel.com> wrote in message
news:3B00332E...@alcatel.com...

> juan wrote:
>
> > isnt she married to that pervy polanski, who had problems with the law
for
> > some intriguing reasons?
>
> Polanski's married to Emmanuelle Seigner.
>
> -B.
>

Oh yeah, i got confused

[*Richie*]

I also like Amanda Donahoe and Brooke Shields, forgot about them.

*Richie* <ric...@colc2k.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message

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[Bob Tiernan]

What, no Mary Stuart Masterson? And that
includes tomboy and non-tomboy look.

BT

[TODD TAMANEND CLARK]

> J P wrote in response to what
> Todd Tamanend Clark previously wrote:
>
>> Here is my list of sexiest actresses of the last twenty years:

>>
>> 01) Angelina Jolie
>> 02) Salma Hayek
>> 03) Vivica A. Fox

>
> Never heard of her...

Generations, Independence Day, Hendrix

>> 04) Andrea Navedo

>
> or her...

One Life To Live

>> 05) Salli Richardson
>
> or her...

Sioux City, Gargoyles, True Women

>> 06) Apollonia Kotero

>
> or her...

Purple Rain, Black Magic Woman

>> 07) Sherilyn Fenn

>
> or her...

Twin Peaks, Two Moon Junction, Boxing Helena

>> 08) Traci Bingham
>
> or her...

Baywatch

>> 09) Hyapatia Lee

>
> I've actually met her...

You are blessed indeed !

>> 10) Mimi Rogers

>
> I'm not sure who this is either...

Doors, Lost In Space, X-Files

> I must be getting old.

I'm 48 myself.

TODD TAMANEND CLARK
Poet/Composer/Multi-Instrumentalist/Photographer

[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< >> 10) Mimi Rogers

>
> I'm not sure who this is either... >>

Mrs. Tom Cruise, the babe he wouldn't sleep with, giving rise to rumours best
dealt with in alt.showbiz.gossip

[Sawfish]

Jeffrey Davis <res0...@verizon.net> writes:

>Annie Potts, Annette Benning, Juliette Binoche, Bonnie Hunt, Irene
>Jacob, Sophie Marceau, Emily Lloyd, Kate Beckinsale, Katie Holmes, Ziyi
>Zhang

Great choices, in my opinion. Especially Sophie Marceau and Ziyi Zhang.
Add Famke Janssen.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. But give a man a boat,
a case of beer, and a few sticks of dynamite..." -- Sawfish

[Andy]

I would substitute in the following:-

1. Mellisa Mylano from TVs charmed (what a babe)
2. Cameron Diaz
3. Catherine Zeta-Jones
4. Kelly le brock (Remember weird science, phwoor!)
5. Angelina Jolie
6. Heather locklear
7. Liz Hurley (Even if she can't act)
8. Sarah Michelle-Gellar
9. Jenny Garth (Bev hills 90210)
10. Elizabeth Shue

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[Jeffrey Davis]

Sawfish wrote:

> Jeffrey Davis <res0...@verizon.net> writes:
>
> >Annie Potts, Annette Benning, Juliette Binoche, Bonnie Hunt, Irene
> >Jacob, Sophie Marceau, Emily Lloyd, Kate Beckinsale, Katie Holmes, Ziyi
> >Zhang
>
> Great choices, in my opinion. Especially Sophie Marceau and Ziyi Zhang.
> Add Famke Janssen.

I've only seen Janssen in that one Bond film where she did that cartoon lust
thing. Not particularly sexy.

I listed mine according to their ages, but the ones I joke about being the 2nd
Mrs. Davises are Binoche and Hunt. Bonnie Hunt is just great. Smart, funny,
pretty, amiable, drawn-to-human-scale. Binoche started off that way. She was
perfect as Terese in Unbearable Lightness. The "Oh, that Anna Karenina?" scene
was just great. But my all-time sexiest scene from this group comes from
Beckinsale in Cold Comfort Farm where she's stitching up some tea doilies and
just tosses Rupert Sewell around in a stictly-no-contest fashion. The only
scene where looking over the top of reading glasses is sexy. 2nd place: Annie
Potts washing off Mark Hamill at a car wash in Corvette Summer. "What a mess!"
in a voice that's just full of indulgence.

Katie Holmes emerged from the pack of class-room cuties in Wonder Boys. 25
years ago when I went to departmental parties, the "smartest graduate student"
would be there and Holmes seems to know what that entails. She may look like
the typical TV role dope but I think she'll actually have an acting career.
Like Reese Witherspoon who really should have made the list, but I didn't know
who else to kick off.
Ditto Jane Horrocks whose Bubble in AbFab is like something out of the 19th
century.

The French actresses seem obvious to me. Irene Jacob seems like a French Bonnie
Hunt: genuinely smart and human-scale. And Sophie Marceau: great eyes.

Annette Benning is the sex at the core of The Grifters, the most sexual movie I
can think of.

Emily Lloyd is my list's outlier. She was so good at the start of her career
(Wish You Were Here, Cookie, and In Country) and the little sidelong glance she
gives Craig Sheffer (The River Runs Through It) before they ride over the
bridge is the best thing in the movie for me. I understand that she's got a
reputation as a pill. What a waste. What a great talent. Perfect ear for
dialog. Disappears into her roles like a young Sean Penn. Great screwed up
mouth.

Ziyi Zhang is, as everyone who saw Crouching Tiger knows, the prettiest young
woman ever.

Gotta go.

[*Richie*]

DAMMIT I FORGOT LIZ HURLEY!!!
Ahh I foudn it so hard to find 10. Now there re allthese I forgot.

but still Kirsten rules over them all

Andy <Ahow...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Hal Horn]

My list, no particular order:

Gina Gershon
Michelle Williams
Jenna Elfman
Christina Applegate
Madeline Stowe
Tea Leoni
Halle Berry
Kathleen Turner
Thora Birch
Anne Marie-Martin

HCH

[Ian McDowell]

>I have three words for you... Sarah Michelle Gellar

I think Gellar's somewhat underrated as an actress (at least when she's
playing Buffy in episodes directed by Whedon; her big screen acting has
been less impressive). But while I like her in that role, she doesn't
really attract me, at least not these days. In the early seasons, before
she'd become so emaciated, she was a lot more physically appealing.

From the BUFFY cast, I prefer Charisma Carpenter, Alison Hannigan, or even
former Buffy fight double Sophia Crawford (a much healthier looking body,
and while she has a generic "hot starlet" face, her sexy working class
British accent transcends it).

[Kiara]

She was also gorgeous in Desperately Seeking Susan. I wanted to look just
like her .

"Jeff Butters" <jbut...@dimensional.com> wrote in message
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[Kiara]

Oh, I agree. Glenn Close is no beauty but she sure can "act" like one.
Which proves the fact that it's not just the face or body but one's
mannerisms and confidence that makes one attractive.

I never thought the late Princess Diana as a beauty but her mannerisms and
conduct "made" her beautiful. Some people just "act" pretty and thereby
convince others that they are.

"starcro1" <star...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dean Eaton" <dce...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:WEuL6.1195$zK6....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > My two cents' worth, in no particular order:
> > Greta Schacci
> > Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio (the thinking man's sex symbol)
> Mastrantonio is a classic sex symbol because she has a beautiful face
> and body. Thinking is unnecessary.
> You want a thinking man's sex symbol? Try a basically plain-looking
> woman who can make you hot with the sheer power of her *acting.*
> Glenn Close
> Meryl Streep (re: "Sophie's Choice")
>
>

[Sébastien Smith]

1. Julia Roberts, come on fella's, she's the most beautiful woman
alive....!!!
2. Patricia Velasquez, mamamia...!!!!!
3. Gong Li
4. Sophia Loren
5. Meg Ryan
6. Kim Basinger
7. Michelle Pfeiffer
8. Nicole Kidman
9. Emmanuelle Béart
10. So okay she is gone for more than twenty years, but she remains the most
stunning actress who ever was brought on screen, GRACE KELLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, not to forget Zita Johann was a knock out, in her days of The Mummy
(1932)

[Steve]

On Wed, 16 May 2001 03:07:00 -0400, "Sébastien Smith" <hitch...@videotron.ca>
wrote:

1. Mimi Rogers
2. Monica Potter
3. Ashley Judd
4. Dana Delany
5. Rose McGowan
6. Shannon Whirry
7. Annette Bening
8. Joanne Whalley
9. Nancy Travis
10.Sung Hi Lee

[*Richie*]

MONICA POTTER!!!!!
Dammit i forget about everyone!

[TODD TAMANEND CLARK]

> Sébastien Smith wrote:
>
> 2. Patricia Velasquez

Absolutely one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen,
but I only know of her as a model and an activist.

What work has she ever done as an actress ?

> 6. Kim Basinger

She was a serious contender for my top ten.
Definitely in the next ten.

[David Matthews]

"TODD TAMANEND CLARK" <tama...@charterpa.net> wrote in message
news:tg4flq4...@corp.supernews.com...

>
> > Sébastien Smith wrote:
> >
> > 2. Patricia Velasquez
>
>
> Absolutely one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen,
> but I only know of her as a model and an activist.
>
> What work has she ever done as an actress ?
>
> > 6. Kim Basinger
>
>
> She was a serious contender for my top ten.
> Definitely in the next ten.
>

I've gotta mention Paula Prentiss somewhere in this thread.

Dave

[Franklin Harris]

"Ian McDowell" <ian...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:iankmcd-1505...@pool-63.52.3.188.atln.grid.net...

>
> From the BUFFY cast, I prefer Charisma Carpenter, Alison Hannigan, or even
> former Buffy fight double Sophia Crawford (a much healthier looking body,
> and while she has a generic "hot starlet" face, her sexy working class
> British accent transcends it).

As far as I'm concerned, you've gotta have Faith.

--
Franklin Harris
Pulp Culture Online, www.pulpculture.net
"I'm still working on that novel, but I'm just about to quit. I'm worried
about the future now, or maybe this is it." --Steely Dan, 2000

[Jeffrey Davis]

David Matthews wrote:

> I've gotta mention Paula Prentiss somewhere in this thread.

In the last 20 years? In the 60s and early 70s, absolutely. Best voice
since the Golden Age of the movies. Then, she dropped out of movies
essentially to raise her family. Our loss. Her sister Ann -- only 1
movie credit that I know of: California Split -- was no slouch either.

[Dianne van Dulken]

Am I right in thinking no one has mentioned Sophie Marceau yet? I
can't recall seeing her name. Or, for that matter, Juliet Binoche or
Rachel Griffiths (sorry, they go together. I have a theory that
Juliet Binoche and Rachel Griffiths are actually the same person)

My 10, which I am sure isn't going to count, because I am female, are:

Juliet Binoche/Rachel Griffiths
Sophie Marceau
Cher (Hey, she was mega sexy in Moonstruck, and that is within the
timeframe, isn't it?)
Isabella Rossolini
Jennifer Jason-Leigh
Catherine Zeta-Jones
Helen Mirren (who IS sexy, and will always be sexy no matter what)
Kirsten Scott-Thomas
Cate Blanchett
and
Janeane Garofalo

Cheers

Di
--
Dianne van Dulken
Old married woman.
http://www.dogmac.com/chaos/wedding <-- Proof

[Jeffrey Davis]

Dianne van Dulken wrote:
>
> Am I right in thinking no one has mentioned Sophie Marceau yet? I
> can't recall seeing her name. Or, for that matter, Juliet Binoche

ahem....

[Terje Pettersen]

Ian McDowell <ian...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:iankmcd-1505...@pool-63.52.3.188.atln.grid.net...
>

Actually I tend to agree with you, but i still think she's a fox. I like
Alison Hannigan a lot too, she's not a real "looker" but she is very sweet
and sensual. They both work out you know, Gellar trains karate and Hannigan
kickboxing i believe (so I guess she's not as innocent as she looks) ;)

[Ian McDowell]

In article <BZuM6.10901$gX3.7...@news3.oke.nextra.no>, "Terje Pettersen"
<ter...@frisurf.no> wrote:

>Actually I tend to agree with you, but i still think she's a fox. I like
>Alison Hannigan a lot too, she's not a real "looker" but she is very sweet
>and sensual. They both work out you know, Gellar trains karate and Hannigan
>kickboxing i believe (so I guess she's not as innocent as she looks) ;)

Don't believe Press Agent claims. Sarah Michelle Gellar's alleged brown
belt in Taekwondo (a sport that, in actuality, she's never practiced) is
as much a work of fiction as any of BUFFY's scripts. Nor does she do much
if any of her onscreen fighting, despite what she's ocassionally claimed
on talk shows. In seasons 2-5, it was just about _all_ Sophia Crawford,
with Gellar (who generally wasn't even on set when the fight scene was
being shot), later brought in for close-ups. This season, a variety of
(generally less proficient) fight doubles have been used.

This kind of "misrepresentation" goes on all time, so I don't seem much
point in getting outraged about it (fired BUFFY fight coordinator Jeff
Pruitt would probably disagree). For the record, former bodybuilder and
dancer Jean Claude Van Damme's kickboxing credentials are as bogus as
Gellar's Taekwondo, and on his last few movies he's been almost as heavily
doubled as Gellar (according to choreographer Xiong Xing-Xing, _seventeen_
fight doubles -- not stuntmen, but fight doubles -- were used on KNOCK
OFF).

It's very much a part of their culture for actors to "lie" about this
stuff, so I don't think it's a terrible character flaw. Jackie Chan goes
along with the fiction (created by New Line for the US market) that he
does all his own stunts (yes, he's risked his life many times, but not
_every_ time -- nobody who supposedly did _all_ their own stunts, not
Fairbanks Sr., not Lloyd, not Keaton, really did).

[joe fucillo]

Julia Roberts the sexiest woman alive????!!!And Eric is the best actor
alive.

Steve wrote in message <5oa4gtcdarhsf7s0n...@4ax.com>...

[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< Janeane Garofalo >>

Always thought she was more attractive than Uma in that dog movie . . .

[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< From the BUFFY cast, I prefer Charisma Carpenter >>

In my number one spot - actually the Buffy/Angel casts have an amazing batting
average in this category.

[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< Isabella Rossolini >>

mmmm, even if that is a stunt butt in Death Becomes Her

I'd put her on my list of 5 freebies and have the card typed and laminated . .
.

[joe fucillo]

Ann Prentiss probably doesn't look too good in her prison uniform now.

Jeffrey Davis wrote in message <3B027478...@verizon.net>...

[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< Ann Prentiss probably doesn't look too good in her prison uniform now. >>

uh

care to elaborate on that?

[joan harkness]

Julia looks like her brother in drag.

.H.

joe fucillo wrote in message ...

[joe fucillo]

Amen!!!!

joan harkness wrote in message ...

[ANIM8Rfsk]

<< Julia looks like her brother in drag. >>

Is she really that pretty?

[Jeffrey Davis]

joan harkness wrote:
>
> Julia looks like her brother in drag.
>

Saucer of milk, table 2.

[Dave T]

Ian McDowell wrote in message ...

>In article <BZuM6.10901$gX3.7...@news3.oke.nextra.no>, "Terje Pettersen"
><ter...@frisurf.no> wrote:
>
>>Actually I tend to agree with you, but i still think she's a fox. I like
>>Alison Hannigan a lot too, she's not a real "looker" but she is very sweet
>>and sensual. They both work out you know, Gellar trains karate and
Hannigan
>>kickboxing i believe (so I guess she's not as innocent as she looks) ;)
>
>Don't believe Press Agent claims. Sarah Michelle Gellar's alleged brown
>belt in Taekwondo (a sport that, in actuality, she's never practiced) is
>as much a work of fiction as any of BUFFY's scripts. Nor does she do much
>if any of her onscreen fighting, despite what she's ocassionally claimed
>on talk shows. In seasons 2-5, it was just about _all_ Sophia Crawford,
>with Gellar (who generally wasn't even on set when the fight scene was
>being shot), later brought in for close-ups. This season, a variety of
>(generally less proficient) fight doubles have been used.

So THAT'S it! I'd noticed the general quality of the fight scenes had
nose-dived this season, particularly the really obvious jumps from SMG to
stunt double. Presumably Ms. Crawford was a good physical match for Gellar,
as in the previous seasons the fights were much more convincing.

James Marsters 'seems' to be pretty good, though. Is he mostly doubled too?

>This kind of "misrepresentation" goes on all time, so I don't seem much
>point in getting outraged about it (fired BUFFY fight coordinator Jeff
>Pruitt would probably disagree). For the record, former bodybuilder and
>dancer Jean Claude Van Damme's kickboxing credentials are as bogus as
>Gellar's Taekwondo, and on his last few movies he's been almost as heavily
>doubled as Gellar (according to choreographer Xiong Xing-Xing, _seventeen_
>fight doubles -- not stuntmen, but fight doubles -- were used on KNOCK
>OFF).

No surprise there. Probably why all his fight scenes go;
spinning-roundhouse-to-opponent's-head (repeat same shot from ten different
camera angles as quickly as possible).

>It's very much a part of their culture for actors to "lie" about this
>stuff, so I don't think it's a terrible character flaw. Jackie Chan goes
>along with the fiction (created by New Line for the US market) that he
>does all his own stunts (yes, he's risked his life many times, but not
>_every_ time -- nobody who supposedly did _all_ their own stunts, not
>Fairbanks Sr., not Lloyd, not Keaton, really did).

I remember when Commando came out, Schwarzenegger was on a bunch of chat
shows talking about the time 'he' jumped 30 feet off the landing gear of an
airliner. Suuuuuure, Arnie.

A good rule of thumb: if you can't see their face, it ain't really them.
--
Dave T

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[Dave T]

James wrote in message <9dig5...@enews4.newsguy.com>...
>Sinead Cusack
>Helen Mirren
>Cate Blanchett
>Helen Hunt
>Ellen Barkin
>Mercedes Ruehl
>Juliette Lewis
>Parker Posey
>Emma Thompson
>Sissy Spacek

My list, for what it's worth...

Chingamy Yau
Denise Richards
Gillian Anderson
Heather Graham
Jeri Ryan
Kate Winslet
Madeleine West (Australian TV actress)
Maggie Cheung
Salma Hayek
Thora Birch

In no particular order.
--
Dave

[Jake Patterson]

In no particular order:

1) Allyson Hannigan
2) Vivian Wu
3) Portia de Rossi
4) Renee O'Connor
5) Natalie Portman
6) Sharon Stone
7) Franka Potente
8) Laura Linney
9) Molly Parker
10) Kate Winslet

And actors:

1) Paul Hopkins
2) Ewan McGregor
3) Dean Cain
4) Brad Pitt
5) Wes Bentley
6) Antonio Banderas
7) Russell Crowe
8) Keanu Reeves
9) Christian Campbell
10) Craig Kilborn

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