favorite dvd?
lynn
there is so much you can put into one of those discs . .it's amazing.
so, help me out here. what is your favorite dvd? and why?
jamison
David
>i just got a dvd player for Christmas, and am slightly in awe of it.
>there is so much you can put into one of those discs . .it's amazing.
I hope this doesn't elicit some snarky comment from the gang, but it
might!
Jack Stalnaker
favorite DVD, or maybe "8 1/2," or maybe even "All About Eve." But, really,
the one thing that I literally watch over and over and over and over is the
"Madison" number in John Waters' "Hairspray." Although I enjoyed the film a
lot in it's theatrical release and later saw it a couple of times on
videotape, I've never seen the whole thing on DVD; I just keep watching the
Madison segment. I have no idea why. I certainly never did the Madison.
Also, during the "Hairspray" titles, there's this little kid who does the
most amazing Mashed Potatoes. I watch that over and over too, and this same
kid does a mean Madison. I think it must be pretty obvious here that I'm a
true cineaste.
JCS
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James L. Neibaur
Kane, Casablanca, Thin Man, Philadelphia Story, Citizen Kane, et. al.
I wish they would release more Warner stuff from the thirties, but I am told
the woman running Warner Video thinks McCabe and Mrs. Miller is The Great Train
Robbery, and dismissed the golden age as archaic. How utterly Richard Roeper
of her.
Would love to see a DVD on Public Enemy, Angels With Dirty Faces, many others.
The Laurel and Hardy talkies are coming from Hallmark in July. Counting the
days.
JN
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John Harkness
wrote:
DVD starter set
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring -- Extended version:
Matched only by Terminator 2: The Ultimate Edition for its film geek
heavenliness -- multiple commentaries, six hours of documentaries, you
name it.
Almost Famous: Untitled -- The Bootleg Cut
Original cut of Cameron Crowe's memoir, and the 40 minutes longer
extended cut -- loaded with Easter Eggs, gallery of Crowe's Rolling
Stone commentary, and Crowe's mom guest stars on the commentary track.
The Third Man (Criterion)
Gorgeous B&W transfer, nifty extras including the Lux Radio Theatre
adaptation of the movie into a radio play.
Fight Club (two disc SE)
A disc that deconstructs itself as it goes along -- multiple
commentaries, and one of the best Easter Eggs
Rushmore -- Criteron
Very funny Wes Anderson/Owen Wilson commentary, design galleries, Max
Fischer Players sketches from MTV movie awards
Alien -- 20th Anniversary Special Edition
Turn off the dialogue and watch this most magisterial of horror films
with nothing but Jerry Goldsmith's score.
Treasures From The American Film Archives
BEcause I never thought I'd see, let alone own, William S Hart's
Hell's Hinges. -- Four discs of the legendary, the obscure and the
simply odd from the dawn of cinema up to the 1930s
Rear Window/Vertigo/North by Northwest
Original aspect ratio Hitchocks, great making of docs on the first
two, screenwriter Ernest Lehman's commentary on the last.
John Harkness
Bob
"James L. Neibaur" wrote:
> The black and white transfers from Warner Home Video are amazing -- Citizen
> Kane, Casablanca, Thin Man, Philadelphia Story, Citizen Kane, et. al.
>
> I wish they would release more Warner stuff from the thirties, but I am told
> the woman running Warner Video thinks McCabe and Mrs. Miller is The Great Train
> Robbery, and dismissed the golden age as archaic. How utterly Richard Roeper
> of her.
>
> Would love to see a DVD on Public Enemy, Angels With Dirty Faces, many others.
>
> The Laurel and Hardy talkies are coming from Hallmark in July. Counting the
> days.
>
Jim, are they the features or the short comedies? I would really like to have all
their short comedies, both talkies and silents.
Bob
James L. Neibaur
>Rushmore -- Criteron
>
>Very funny Wes Anderson/Owen Wilson commentary, design galleries, Max
>Fischer Players sketches from MTV movie awards
The sound is really exceptional on this DVD as well, especially during the
rather fascinating selection of background songs.
>I never thought I'd see, let alone own, William S Hart's
>Hell's Hinges
Why would you not have expected to see Hell's Hinges? I've never known this
one to be hard to find.
John Harkness
Neibaur) wrote:
>John stated:
>
>>I never thought I'd see, let alone own, William S Hart's
>>Hell's Hinges
>
>Why would you not have expected to see Hell's Hinges? I've never known this
>one to be hard to find.
>
>JN
>
Because it had never crossed my path in almost 30 years of fairly
conscientious movie-going. OTOH, I'd never really gone out looking for
it.
John Harkness
James L. Neibaur
>Jim, are they the features or the short comedies? I would really like to
>have all
>their short comedies, both talkies and silents.
They are planning to release ALL the talkie films over several DVDs, with
double features (Imagine a DVD of both Way Out West and Sons of the Desert) and
collections of shorts.
The silents are owned by others, and are already available (several volumes
called The Lost Films of Laurel and Hardy)
Laurel and Hardy on DVD! Forget multi-disc, commentary-laden, director's cuts
of trendy mainstream hits.
John Harkness
is out on loan, I completely forgot
Brazil (Criterion) -- if this were the only DVD in the world, it would
justify the existence of DVD players.
John Harkness
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 04:22:07 GMT, j...@attcanada.ca (John Harkness)
wrote:
James L. Neibaur
>Because it had never crossed my path in almost 30 years of fairly
>conscientious movie-going.
It has always been sort of "there" -- perhaps among the most accessible
silents. I thought you were alluding to its being hard to find when you stated
you never thought you would see it.
>OTOH, I'd never really gone out looking for
>it.
It's a decent example of Hart's films, if you're only limiting yourself to one
per lifetime.
CleV
wrote:
>Fight Club (two disc SE)
>A disc that deconstructs itself as it goes along -- multiple
>commentaries, and one of the best Easter Eggs
I just got this but haven't looked at it yet. What should I look out
for?
John Harkness
A couple of things -- one is to freeze and read what appears to be a
second FBI/copywright notice when the first disc loads -- the second
is an easter egg for the fictional fight club catalogue on disc 2 --
check DVDreview.com's hidden features page to find it. I don't feel
like loading it up and remembering how to navigate it.
John Harkness
James L. Neibaur
bit players (the tall guy jumping up and down with Ringo during the party
sequence, for instance). It also has some footage from Wilfred Brambill's TV
years.
Just saw the new two-disc Singin' in the Rain. Many extras, incredible sound,
and priced low.
John Harkness
Neibaur) wrote:
>The two-disc A Hard Day's Night features many extras, including interviews with
>bit players (the tall guy jumping up and down with Ringo during the party
>sequence, for instance). It also has some footage from Wilfred Brambill's TV
>years.
>
>Just saw the new two-disc Singin' in the Rain. Many extras, incredible sound,
>and priced low.
>
>JN
>
And Hard Day's Night totally screwed the pooch on the 5.1 sound remix
-- the music is all mixed wrong, which would be fine if they'd
included the original mono track as an option, or even the extremely
good 1982 stereo remix.
And there's no Beatle involvement. Interviews with day players, that's
beyond minutiae.
John Harkness
Joseph Vitale
news:20021229032851...@mb-ms.aol.com:
> Would love to see a DVD on Public Enemy, Angels With Dirty Faces, many
> others.
I second this. It's way past due for the classic Warner films of the 30's
to not have made their first appearance yet on DVD.
The Public Enemy
Little Caesar
G Men
The Fighting 69th
Mystery Of The Wax Museum
Doctor x
Treasure Of The Sierra Madre (1948)
White Heat (1949)
-Where are you??
JV
James L. Neibaur
>-- the music is all mixed wrong, which would be fine if they'd
>included the original mono track as an option, or even the extremely
>good 1982 stereo remix.
I agree a mono track option would have been nice.
>And there's no Beatle involvement. Interviews with day players, that's
>beyond minutiae.
For a project of this magnitude, the day players would not constitute minutiae
(a commentary track for something like Meet The Parents is minutiae). We can
hear, from their fly-on-the-wall perspective, what this revolutionary situation
was like as it happened. It is actually rather interesting. Brambill's
established popularity on British TV (including footage from Steptoe and Son,
the forerunner of America's Sanford and Son) is discussed with the
understanding that while American audiences know him chiefly for this movie, he
was already quite well known in England at the time, perhaps, in some circles,
even moreso than The Beatles at that point.
The director and original distributor reps offer insights that had heretofore
not been discussed in other sources. The fact that this film captured so much
of the magic that changed international pop culture in unfathomable ways makes
even its smallest elements of interest.
I was very happy with these features and with this DVD.
Also, the Keaton-Arbuckle collection just released is preferable to the Kino
one, despite each containing the same films. The footage on the later release
for many of the shorts (most notably The Garage) is better. And the music is
far superior than the often distracting Alloy Orchestra compositions on the
Kino collection.
James L. Neibaur
>The Public Enemy
>Little Caesar
>G Men
>The Fighting 69th
>Mystery Of The Wax Museum
>Doctor x
>Treasure Of The Sierra Madre (1948)
>White Heat (1949)
>
>-Where are you??
Unfortunately they are being passed over in favor of special editions and
director's cuts of trendy mainstream movies. (sigh)
Sally G. Waters
this is one of my favorites. I love all of my movie DVDs (especially the
2-disk "Citizen Kane" set, complete with PBS documentary about Welles and
Hearst; and "Heavenly Creatures", which is a beautiful, disturbing movie,
made even MORE beautiful and disturbing in crystal-clear widescreen with
footage that had been removed once it left New Zealand.) But the 2-disk
Scorcese set is just great, almost a Film 101 class that has excellent clips
and shows you things like how different genres have developed, directors you
might never have heard of, innovations in camerawork, etc. (TCM plays these
shows occasionally, but the DVD set has them all.)
Sally (who spent last night watching "Hullabaloo!" on DVD - 4 separate shows
of it - and has decided that Freddie and the Dreamers were, bar none, THE
most obnoxious export England ever had.)
"lynn" <lynnNOS...@gbronline.com> wrote in message
news:3e0e82dc...@news.gbronline.com...
James L. Neibaur
>this is one of my favorites.
I enjoy that one as well.
>Sally (who spent last night watching "Hullabaloo!" on DVD - 4 separate shows
>of it - and has decided that Freddie and the Dreamers were, bar none, THE
>most obnoxious export England ever had.)
"I'm telling you now,
I'm telling you right away,
I'll be saying for many a day,
I'm in love with you now....!"
Do the Freddy!
Stephen Cooke
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Sally G. Waters wrote:
> Sally (who spent last night watching "Hullabaloo!" on DVD - 4 separate shows
> of it - and has decided that Freddie and the Dreamers were, bar none, THE
> most obnoxious export England ever had.)
You're telling us now?
swac
Has seen home movie footage taken backstage at Hullaballoo (by one of the
Kinks) which features everyone there, including Frankie and Annette,
manically doing the Freddie.
W. Lydecker
missed a lot. I've never (4 months) seen any Hart stuff. I
want to see "The Toll Gate", is that on a dvd with "Hell's Hinges"?
Haven't seen much of Babe and Stan's stuff either. On another
thread someone asked about Stupor Bowl - Why Silver and Black of course.
Jim
>>Sally (who spent last night watching "Hullabaloo!" on DVD - 4 separate
>>shows of it - and has decided that Freddie and the Dreamers were, bar
>>none, THE most obnoxious export England ever had.)
>
> "I'm telling you now,
> I'm telling you right away,
> I'll be saying for many a day,
> I'm in love with you now....!"
>
> Do the Freddy!
God! Worse than Herman and the Hermits?
"Misses Brown yoov gowt a luwvly dawter..."
Stephen Cooke
Hey, I *like* some Herman's Hermits stuff...There's a Kind of Hush, No
Milk Today, Dandy (orig. by the Kinks, natch), and the cryptically titled
This Door Swings Both Ways.
swac
Second verse same as the first.
Stephen Cooke
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, W. Lydecker wrote:
> Since I just got into this new fangled dvd stuff, I'm sure I've
> missed a lot. I've never (4 months) seen any Hart stuff. I
> want to see "The Toll Gate", is that on a dvd with "Hell's Hinges"?
Hell's Hinges is part of the Treasures from the Film Archives four-disc
box set (try eBay, you might find a used one...lots of fun stuff here),
while The Toll Gate was released by Kino, with the addition of a Hart
parody starring Mack Swain (His Bitter Pill, I think).
CleV
wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:56:34 GMT, CL...@balJUNKcab.ch (CleV) wrote:
>>On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 04:22:07 GMT, j...@attcanada.ca (John Harkness)
>>wrote:
>>>Fight Club (two disc SE)
>>>A disc that deconstructs itself as it goes along -- multiple
>>>commentaries, and one of the best Easter Eggs
>>I just got this but haven't looked at it yet. What should I look out
>>for?
>A couple of things -- one is to freeze and read what appears to be a
>second FBI/copywright notice when the first disc loads -- the second
>is an easter egg for the fictional fight club catalogue on disc 2 --
>check DVDreview.com's hidden features page to find it. I don't feel
>like loading it up and remembering how to navigate it.
Oki kokey - will save this message for later use :-) Thanks!
James L. Neibaur
>
>"Misses Brown yoov gowt a luwvly dawter..."
Hey! That's a classic!
Bob
"James L. Neibaur" wrote:
> >God! Worse than Herman and the Hermits?
> >
> >"Misses Brown yoov gowt a luwvly dawter..."
>
> Hey! That's a classic!
>
> JN
In the coffee houses, we sang
"LBJ you've got an ugly dawter"
Youth is cruel.
Bob
Chris
> You must be easily impressed. (Probably you are young.) I've seen 'em
> running in stores, and see nothing there to make it worth ditching
> the home video formats that have served well for decades.
Much better resolution, better navigation, DVD extras, smaller storage
space, less mechanicals on the media, less storage space, inexpensive.
What's not to love?
I still have both, primarily because a lot of the foreign titles in our
local stores are on VHS, but I prefer DVD anytime I can get it.
Embracing DVD doesn't mean "ditching" anything. At least I didn't choose
to.
Jim
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 05:15:29 GMT, lynn <lynnNOS...@gbronline.com>
> wrote:
>>i just got a dvd player for Christmas, and am slightly in awe of it.
>
> running in stores, and see nothing there to make it worth ditching
> the home video formats that have served well for decades.
Have you, by any chance, got an eight-track tape player in your car?
Bob
Roger Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 05:15:29 GMT, lynn <lynnNOS...@gbronline.com> wrote:
> >i just got a dvd player for Christmas, and am slightly in awe of it.
>
> You must be easily impressed. (Probably you are young.) I've seen 'em
> running in stores, and see nothing there to make it worth ditching
> the home video formats that have served well for decades.
>
>
That's what I thought until my wife brought a DVD player home.
The director's and stars comments alone make a DVD much more fun than a VHS
tape. I like being able to choose which format I want to see a film in.
On some movies, I like being able to hear dubbed sound and read subtitles at the
same time.
Just a couple of thoughts.
Bob
Jim
> On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 07:04:11 -0800, Bob <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>That's what I thought until my wife brought a DVD player home.
>>The director's and stars comments alone make a DVD much more fun than a
>>VHS
>
> movie. (Some laser discs have commentary on the analog audio track, but
> I never bother listening to it.)
Consumers adopted DVD's at a rate that made vendors' heads spin. There are
lots of reasons for this, but the main ones are very basic: random access
and compact storage. There is nothing to enjoy in winding and rewinding
tapes. And DVD's just take up a lot less space than the media that came
before them. I also think people enjoy having multiple subtitles to select
from. English is not a first language for my wife. So, when she wants
English subtitles, we just switch them on. This goes back to the
compactness of the medium. You can put a lot more on a single DVD than you
ever could on a tape.
David
>Each to their own, I have no interest in that, just want to watch the
>movie. (Some laser discs have commentary on the analog audio track, but
>I never bother listening to it.)
WELL THEN DON'T BUY A DVD PLAYER, for heaven's sake!!!!
good lord
David
>Consumers adopted DVD's at a rate that made vendors' heads spin. There are
>lots of reasons for this, but the main ones are very basic: random access
>and compact storage. There is nothing to enjoy in winding and rewinding
>tapes. And DVD's just take up a lot less space than the media that came
>before them.
There's also something psychological at work in the minds of the DVD
consumers. I guess you'd call it technology fetish. It's a sense we
have that the movie on that silvery little disc is better than the
same movie on that ugly brown tape.
James L. Neibaur
>though I also have standard Beta, VHS, and CED disc. That's plenty
>formats for me, I see no need to add DVD
Perhaps due to acccessibility. I know many collectors of vinyl records (and
shellac for those who like the 78s) that were holdouts for CDs. But eventually
they did get CD players even if only because there was some music that
eventually was only available in that format.
I still enjoy firing up the 16mm and projecting movies on a large screen, and
also collected in Beta, VHS, etc. But I did feel that DVD was necessary.
You needn't avoid DVD any more than Super VHS or CED disc. It is another
format on which you can obtain good movies.
Stephen Cooke
On 3 Jan 2003, James L. Neibaur wrote:
> >My primary video formats are Super Beta and laser disc,
> >though I also have standard Beta, VHS, and CED disc. That's plenty
> >formats for me, I see no need to add DVD
>
> Perhaps due to acccessibility. I know many collectors of vinyl records (and
> shellac for those who like the 78s) that were holdouts for CDs. But eventually
> they did get CD players even if only because there was some music that
> eventually was only available in that format.
Then there are those 78 collectors who are technically adept and burn
copies of their platters onto CD-R so they can listen to them in the car
(or perhaps in a room of the house where there isn't a grammophone). Or
upload them to binary newsgroups. I have 78s, but sadly not a decent
machine to play them on, but I know people from both camps, the "ye olde"
technophobes and those who cherish the equipment from both ends of the
century.
swac
James L. Neibaur
>machine to play them on, but I know people from both camps, the "ye olde"
>technophobes and those who cherish the equipment from both ends of the
>century.
Yeah, same here. I am the guy going to estate sales and digging through piles
of Guy Lombardo and Lawrence Welk records in hopes of finding something on the
Black Patti label.
Jim
> On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 02:40:36 GMT, Jim <jcph...@SPAMmindspring.com> wrote:
>>Consumers adopted DVD's at a rate that made vendors' heads spin. There are
>>lots of reasons for this, but the main ones are very basic: ...
>
> The primary reason is that P.T. Barnum was right. I'm sure that in
> a few years, DVD will be proclaimed "obsolete" and now everyone
> will be told they have to ditch that format and get some other
> New Thing.
Yadda, yadda, yadda. Go back to your Victrola. How did a guy like you ever
get suckered into computers and the Internet?
Papa Lazarou
>On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 02:40:36 GMT, Jim <jcph...@SPAMmindspring.com> wrote:
>>Consumers adopted DVD's at a rate that made vendors' heads spin. There are
>>lots of reasons for this, but the main ones are very basic: ...
>
>The primary reason is that P.T. Barnum was right. I'm sure that in
>a few years, DVD will be proclaimed "obsolete" and now everyone
>will be told they have to ditch that format and get some other
>New Thing.
Well, at the risk of stating the obvious, that's the nature of
technology. Without it we'd all be driving to the cinematorium in 20 mph
jalopies and wearing monocles to read the cue cards. Unless it's one of
those insidious talkies that have been creeping in lately.
Out of interest, what alternative method would you suggest for watching
movies at home that is either more cost effective or of comparable
quality to DVD?
--
Papa Lazarou
Maureen Goldman
>Out of interest, what alternative method would you suggest for watching
>movies at home that is either more cost effective or of comparable
>quality to DVD?
How about glasses that show the video, plus a headset for sound?
John Stone
And how did he get the position of rebel leader against the United
Federation of Planets?
--
John Stone
The dinosaurs didn't become extinct. It's 1972, and Richard
Nixon is President of the United States. -- Dan Goodman
Jim
Those things exist. I had a movie marketing company approach me in Tower
Records to get my reaction to a trailer. I put on the glasses and watched
and then they asked me questions. That was at least four years ago.
Maureen Goldman
>> How about glasses that show the video, plus a headset for sound?
> Jim
>Those things exist. I had a movie marketing company approach me in Tower
>Records to get my reaction to a trailer. I put on the glasses and watched
>and then they asked me questions. That was at least four years ago.
Yes, I've seen the occasional mention of video-displaying glasses, in
an experimental stage. I can't help thinking that there would be
problems of getting one's eyes to adjust back to normality, though,
after the length of an entire movie. Like, whether it would be safe to
drive right afterward.
Chris
> On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:13:56 -0000, Chris <chri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Much better resolution, better navigation, DVD extras, smaller storage
>
> Than what? My primary video formats are Super Beta and laser disc,
> though I also have standard Beta, VHS, and CED disc. That's plenty
> formats for me, I see no need to add DVD.
>
Getting recent titles on Super Beta or Laser Disc (I love laserdisc by the
way) is difficult. So if you care about quality and extras and all the
other things that laser disc brings you (presumably you do, else you would
have nothing but VHS), and if you want to watch modern titles, then DVD
seems to be a logical step since it is as good or better than these formats
and is still being produced.
Chris
> Perhaps due to acccessibility. I know many collectors of vinyl
> records (and shellac for those who like the 78s) that were holdouts
> for CDs. But eventually they did get CD players even if only because
> there was some music that eventually was only available in that
> format.
Good point. I love vinyl, and I still maintain it is better sounding than
even SACD, but it's literally impossible to get a lot of good modern stuff
on record. I am building a nice collection of my favorite (straight ahead
and bebop from the 50s and 60s) on vinyl, but a CD player is a must. It is
a good analogy.
David
>Good point. I love vinyl, and I still maintain it is better sounding than
>even SACD, but it's literally impossible to get a lot of good modern stuff
>on record. I am building a nice collection of my favorite (straight ahead
>and bebop from the 50s and 60s) on vinyl, but a CD player is a must.
Lots of good Coltrane, like "Newport '63" & "A Love Supreme," being
24-bit remastered on exquisite CD releases.
Even more traditional fare late in the game, like Ellington's tearful,
joyful tribute to Strayhorn, "And His Mother Called Him Bill" (1967),
also being remastered & repackaged.
And then of course there are the famed Billie Holiday box sets for
Verve, Decca, Columbia & Commodore.
Gabriel Zachmann
>
> > Jim
> >Those things exist. I had a movie marketing company approach me in Tower
> >Records to get my reaction to a trailer. I put on the glasses and watched
> >and then they asked me questions. That was at least four years ago.
and sony (or was it olympus) sells them as an accessory for their dvd
players.
> Yes, I've seen the occasional mention of video-displaying glasses, in
> an experimental stage. I can't help thinking that there would be
> problems of getting one's eyes to adjust back to normality, though,
> after the length of an entire movie. Like, whether it would be safe to
> drive right afterward.
I think there is no bad after-effect.
just like with ear-phones.
Gab.
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