Wizard of Oz question
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
one of whom has an arguement with the Scarecrow. Watching the movie today I
became convinced that the voice of the apple tree (not the body obviously) was
supplied by Eugene Pallette, who was working in other MGM films during that
period in those days. Anyone know for sure if I'm right?
Frank in Seattle
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Mark LoPresti
<< Dorothy and the Scarecrow stop in a orchard of thoroughly grumpy apple
trees, one of whom has an arguement with the Scarecrow. Watching the movie
today I became convinced that the voice of the apple tree (not the body
obviously) was supplied by Eugene Pallette, who was working in other MGM films
during that period in those days. Anyone know for sure if I'm right?>>
I just watched and listened to the scene in question (it's on TNT tonight so I
waited for it)
In my opinion, it's not his voice. Doesn't have the right amount of raspiness
to it. I could be wrong and I actually hope that I am wrong, but I don't think
it's him.
Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
p.s. High marks though to anyone who brings the name of a great character actor
into any thread!
Robert Keser
> Dorothy and the Scarecrow stop in a orchard of thoroughly grumpy apple trees,
> one of whom has an arguement with the Scarecrow. Watching the movie today I
> became convinced that the voice of the apple tree (not the body obviously) was
> supplied by Eugene Pallette, who was working in other MGM films during that
> period in those days. Anyone know for sure if I'm right?
I tend to doubt this: Pallette actually worked very rarely at MGM,
although it's true he appeared in Young Tom Edison in 1940. More
likely--since Pallette was very well-known, even beloved, as a character
actor--is that the actor used was encouraged to imitate Pallette's
distinctive growl. (Pallette had been a leading man in silents, but moved
to character parts as he aged and accumulated poundage; in modern
terms, we could compare him to people like Dennis Hopper and
Christopher Walken, who started as leading men twenty years ago and
remain well-known names, yet work as supporting players now).
If you have a chance, try to catch Pallette's very funny performance in
The Half-Naked Truth (1932), which is quite different from his later
roles as disgruntled fathers.
Bob Keser
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Say, that reminds me of William Demarest... um... just because.
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On 2 Dec 2001, Mark LoPresti wrote:
> p.s. High marks though to anyone who brings the name of a great character actor
> into any thread!
Okay...everybody name their favourite Lionel Stander performance!
sc
I could use some high marks.
TTrocc7007
>
There are sooooo many! Detective Story may be THE performance, but for the
three seconds he actually appears in Leone's Once Upon A Time In The West, he
steals the pic!
Tom Troccoli
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
They're probably right, but a boy can hope, can't he?
So, let's talk Pallette for a moment, then.
The oldest film I know him from is 1935's _The Ghost Goes West_. The last film
of his that I've seen is probably _The Gang's All Here_ (1943). He made his
last film in 1946 and died in 1954, according to the IMDb.
In between, I relish his performances in _100 Men and a Girl_, _Topper_, _The
Adventures of Robin Hood_, _Mr. Smith Goes to Washington_, _The Bride Came
C.O.D._ (which also featured Jack Carson, to tie this to another thread), and
_The Lady Eve_.
With over 200 credits in his filmography, there a lot of other films of his I'd
love to see but haven't. So many films, so little video.
W. Lydecker
Musketeers", with Fairbanks. (He's barely recognizable.)
Robert Keser
Robert Montgomery's squeaky-shoed butler (an unfairly neglected
comedy, I think). Pallette is even in Intolerance, in the French episode.
Bob Keser
Rosanne
personalities / types were to me wonderful necessary staples of the 1940's movies.
All easily recognizable and somewhat predictable in their parts. They were the
backbone of some good movies.
Rosanne
VinnyBadabing
One- not Palllette
Two- The Mayor is "Mayor of the Munchkin City, in the County of the Land of Oz".
~Vinny
Joe Gillis
>
>>Okay...everybody name their favourite Lionel Stander performance!
>>
>
>There are sooooo many! Detective Story may be THE performance,
??
Are you talking about the stage production? Stander wasn't in the movie -- IIRC
he was blacklisted shortly after making Unfaithfully Yours (1948).
but for the
>three seconds he actually appears in Leone's Once Upon A Time In The West, he
>steals the pic!
Least favorite Stander performance:
Professor Beware (1938).
Stander is curiously dour & overbearing in this Harold Lloyd vehicle, ruining
every scene he's in.
But it's still an amusing (and underappreciated) comedy, with a nicely done
climax & one brilliant sight gag later stolen by the Zuckers for Top Secret!
(1984).
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Frank R.A.J. Maloney
>Two things,
>
>One- not Palllette
>
>Two- The Mayor is "Mayor of the Munchkin City, in the County of the Land of
>Oz".
>
>~Vinny
OK, not Pallette, but your other point is what exactly? And you mention
because?
James L. Neibaur
A Star is Born (1937)
Cul-de-sac
The Milky Way
I interviewed him in 1985, and he was quite interesting and candid about the
blacklisting, and had fun stories about his career. Along with his noted
classics, he had comments about starting out in the Vitaphone comedies with the
likes of Shemp Howard, Roscoe Arbuckle, et. al.
A favorite of mine.
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>
> >
> >>Okay...everybody name their favourite Lionel Stander performance!
> >>
> >
The Loved One, as the Guru advice columnist, and New York, New York, as Liza
Minelli's agent.
Jack
VinnyBadabing
> because?
>
>
> Frank in Seattle
>
The original (first) question in this thread was "What society does
the mayor munchkin and his cohorts represent in the Wizard of Oz ?"
The answer to that question is "Munchkin City, in the County of the
Land of Oz"
That's the literal answer according to the song that is sung in the
film.
~Vinny
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
Thanks for the reply. Now I know what you're responding to.
However, that question was not posed by me when I started this particular
thread a couple of days back thataway; I only asked about the Pallette-like
voice of the apple tree.
Perhaps there was another Wizard of Oz thread circulating here but it must have
come from someone else. Not that it really matters, of course; I just like to
know what's going on.
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
[deletions]
>The original (first) question in this thread was "What society does
>the mayor munchkin and his cohorts represent in the Wizard of Oz ?"
[deletions]
If by cohorts the questioner, whoever he or she was, meant to include every
Munchkin who directly interacts with Dorothy, there were besides the Mayor of
"Munchkin City, in the County of the Land of Oz" there was also the Coroner
(who certified that the Witch was "not only merely dead, she's most really most
sincerely dead"), two or three other rather excitable civic-leader types as
well as the three ballerinas who "represent the Lullaby League" and the three
twitchy tough guys who "represent the Lollipop Guild".
Or did someone else remark on all this earlier?
larry legallo
Maloney) wrote:
>VinnyB...@Excite.com (VinnyBadabing) wrote:
>
>[deletions]
>
>>The original (first) question in this thread was "What society does
>>the mayor munchkin and his cohorts represent in the Wizard of Oz ?"
>
>[deletions]
>
>If by cohorts the questioner, whoever he or she was, meant to include every
>Munchkin who directly interacts with Dorothy, there were besides the Mayor of
>"Munchkin City, in the County of the Land of Oz" there was also the Coroner
>(who certified that the Witch was "not only merely dead, she's most really most
>sincerely dead"), two or three other rather excitable civic-leader types as
>well as the three ballerinas who "represent the Lullaby League" and the three
>twitchy tough guys who "represent the Lollipop Guild".
>
>Or did someone else remark on all this earlier?
>
I think it's a google thing. They combine threads with matching
titles. The question he was referring to was asked in November 1998.
Since the thread titles are the same, it's listed at google as the
first post in this thread.
VinnyBadabing
> I think it's a google thing.
That explains the confusion! Thanks!
~Vinny
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
>> I think it's a google thing.
>
>That explains the confusion! Thanks!
>
>~Vinny
>
>
I'll just add my thanks.
Henryinman
Specter of he Rose
Bill
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>Two of my favorites are post blacklist.
>The Loved One, as the Guru advice columnist, and New York, New York, as Liza
>Minelli's agent.
Generally, I don't care for Stander, but he was indeed great in "The
Loved One". Very funny.
Off-topic: I was shocked the other day to hear my mom express her wish
for her final resting place to be "shot up into space, like that lady in
that movie." Huh. I didn't bother asking her how she was planning on
paying for it.
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There is no guacamole anywhere. * Signifying nothing.