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Lenona321

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Someone at "People" magazine once referred to one-time actors as being in big
movies that were "a springboard into anonymity". One example of that
reference was to Katharine Ross in "The Graduate". Others that come to mind
are, sadly, Lou Gossett Jr. in "An Officer and a Gentleman" and Rebecca De
Mornay in "Risky Business" (yes, I remember HTRTCradle, but that was 8 years
ago). Any others?

Lenona.

John H

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Hardly fair to Lou Gossett Jr -- he is someone with a career spanning
40 years, and he was never really a star, except on television. He's a
career supporting actor, with some quite memorable post-Oscar work --
picked up a for his work in The Josephine Baker Story, terrific
opposite James Woods in Diggstown, in Schlondorff's A Gathering of Old
Men. He's been in a lot of cash-the-cheque and say the lines junk,
like those Iron Eagle movies, but overall, it's a pretty good career.

CHRISTOPHER SICILIANO

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Michael Pare comes to mind, after "Eddie and the Cruisers and "The
Philadelphia Experiment", he did not do much.

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Wull

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EATC was one of my all time favorite movies. Way ahead of it's time. I have
seen MP in a few more movies and he was always very good.

He must have displeased someone, somewhere in time.

Wull

John Harkness

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No, Pare's a fundamentally dull actor who wound up mostly doing TV and
direct-to-vids.

John Harkness

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Sawfish

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leno...@aol.com (Lenona321) writes:

>Someone at "People" magazine once referred to one-time actors as being in big
>movies that were "a springboard into anonymity". One example of that
>reference was to Katharine Ross in "The Graduate". Others that come to mind
>are, sadly, Lou Gossett Jr. in "An Officer and a Gentleman" and Rebecca De
>Mornay in "Risky Business" (yes, I remember HTRTCradle, but that was 8 years
>ago). Any others?

Michael Pollard.


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OJones7893

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>From: leno...@aol.com (Lenona321)
Date: 10/21/00 7:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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>Someone at "People" magazine once referred to one-time actors as being in big
movies that were "a springboard into anonymity". One example of that
reference was to Katharine Ross in "The Graduate". Others that come to mind
are, sadly, Lou Gossett Jr. in "An Officer and a Gentleman" and Rebecca De
Mornay in "Risky Business" (yes, I remember HTRTCradle, but that was 8 years
ago). Any others?


Some other unfortunate examples are:

Margaret Avery. She did an excellent job in "The Color Purple". More
recently, I saw her in "The Lathe of Heaven", and she was very good there, too.
According to IMDB, she's still acting. However, it seems unfortunate that she
hasn't been in more high profile roles in film since 1985. If anyone deserves
a successful and ongoing film career, she does.

Julian Sands - another good actor. He gained some attention for "The Loss of
Sexual Innocence" (1999), but he's another actor who deserved and deserves
greater success and notability than he has had. Since "A Room With A View"
and "Arachnophobia", his career has disappointingly consisted of mostly horror
movies, direct-to-video films, and erotic B-movies.

Joel Blake - a fine young actor from Canada. I think he did one movie about 10
years ago, and for two years he was a costar on the series AVONLEA. According
to IMDB, he hasn't done ANY film or TV work in years. Does anyone know what
happened to him or what he is doing now?

Daphne Zuniga - She had a blooming film career in the mid- and late '80's
("Gross Anatomy" and "The Sure Thing"). She is a good actor, but being on that
trashy nighttime soap [Melrose Place] apparently hasn't helped her film career.
Since the mid- '90's, she's only done TV work (most of which isn't very
memorable.).

BH

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Marisa Tomei in "My Cousin Vinny"

Lenona321 <leno...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Someone at "People" magazine once referred to one-time actors as being in
big
> movies that were "a springboard into anonymity". One example of that
> reference was to Katharine Ross in "The Graduate". Others that come to
mind
> are, sadly, Lou Gossett Jr. in "An Officer and a Gentleman" and Rebecca De
> Mornay in "Risky Business" (yes, I remember HTRTCradle, but that was 8
years
> ago). Any others?
>

> Lenona.

Isaac Weeks

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>Marisa Tomei in "My Cousin Vinny"
>
>

Good call! I was talking to a guy at work yesterday about the upcoming strike
and I said, "The worst thing about it is the film companies will start
releasing straight-to-videos as theatrical releases. Get ready for lots of
Mario Van Peebles and Marisa Tomei flicks."
RIP Richard Farnsworth, we hardly knew ye.

ros...@dslextreme.com

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Harold Russell - a double amputee in real life - actually received 2 oscars for
his role of a double amputee adapting to life after WW II in the l946 "The Best
Years of our Lives". One oscar was for Best Supporting Actor and the other for
being an Inspiration for returning Vets.

In the past few years he was actually on camera (in the audience) at one of the
Academy Award presentations on TV.

In looking up his bio, I see he appeared in two movies after "Best Years" one in
l980 and l997.

Rosanne


Mpoconnor7

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A couple which come to mind:

-Nick Apollo Forte - Hack nightclub singer who got a big break as the lead in
"Broadway Danny Rose" but never appeared in another movie.
-Beatrice Straight - She won a BSA Oscar for "Network" in 1976 and never
capitalized on it.


Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
"The probability of one person being right increases in a direct porportion to
the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"

Tom Cervo

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>-Beatrice Straight - She won a BSA Oscar for "Network" in 1976 and never
>capitalized on it.
>

This is really kind of funny, since she had a career on Broadway long before
and long after dabbling in films.
Theatre acting tends to have a higher status than film acting, not because it's
a higher art but because it's harder to do--you get one shot at a live
performance and you can't edit out the mistakes.
But the pay is lousy. The screen sees a lot of actors now like William Macy and
Gary Sinise who were legends in Chicago theatre. They did one film and made
more money on it than in twenty years of stage acting.
You could say the same thing of Celia Johnson, who had a huge hit in "Brief
Encounter" and 'blew it'. Her misfortune was a very happy marriage, and
children, and all the stage work she wanted.

Greywizard

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Dennis Christopher. After "Breaking Away", he was really hot. Then after
some unwise career choices, he fell into obsurity. It's a shame, because
when he's given a quality role, he's really good.

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Hurd Hatfield in The Picture of Dorian Gray


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andy749

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Tippi Hedren ?


ros...@dslextreme.com

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May Wynn - had a small part in "The Caine Mutany". (1954) At that time the
movie magazines played up the fact that although May Wynn had apeared in a few
moview before Caine Mutany, she
had been going under her real name, Donna Lee Hickey, but, she liked the name of
the character she played, May Wynn, so she changed her movie name to May Wynn.

Then she just sort of disappeared. According to her bio, her acting fizzled out
in the 1950's.

Rosanne

Maureen Goldman

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George Lazenby


Opencity

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Some Oscar-winning pan-flashers: George Chakiris, Lila Kedrova, Estelle
Parsons, Tatum O'Neal, Louise Fletcher, F. Murray Abraham, Marlee Matlin, Mira
Sorvino, Mercedes Ruehl.

John Harkness

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Kedrova was a foreigner and an old woman. What kind of American movie
career was she going to have?

Estelle Parsons has worked steadily in theatre -- her first love --
for decades.

O'Neal was a child performer and, almost by definition, a bit of a
freak show.

Louise Fletcher was a middle-aged woman -- for someone with that
strike against her, she's had a remarkably successful career, and done
some memorable work, particularly in Douglas Trumbull's Brainstorm.

Given her handicap, Marlee Matlin has had a remarkable career -- she
works very steadily. How many big Hollywood roles are there for deaf
actresses?

Abraham and Ruehl are mostly theatre people. They do movies and
television to pay the bills so they can go back to the stage.

John Harkness


Endymion9

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Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher after the SW trilogy. Hamil's only good roles
after SWI were The Big Red One and Corvette Summer. Then he nose nived into
obscurety. Fisher turned her talents to writing.
--
Endy/Dennis
"dancing us from the darkest night is the rhythm of love powered by the
beating of hearts." XTC

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Endymion9

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> Louise Fletcher was a middle-aged woman -- for someone with that
> strike against her, she's had a remarkably successful career, and done
> some memorable work, particularly in Douglas Trumbull's Brainstorm.

I enjoyed her performance in Exorcist II:The Heretic. I enjoyed that entire
movie much more than critics seem to have. Also, Fletcher added some
excellent acting and drama to Deep Space Nine.

Jim Beaver

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> Robby Benson--what about him

Robby Benson directed almost every episode of the sitcom I was on in the
mid-'90s, Thunder Alley. He is one of the busiest directors in television,
and much prefers that to acting.

Jim Beaver

Cheemsson1

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Robby Benson--what about him

John Harkness

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On 23 Oct 2000 00:57:04 GMT, cheem...@aol.com (Cheemsson1) wrote:

>Robby Benson--what about him

Benson does a lot of voice-work -- he was the voice of the Beast in
Beauty and the...

John Harkness

Chris Pierson

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In article <39f39886....@nntp.netcom.ca>,

If voice work counts to excuse Benson, then it must apply to Hamill as
well.

Now, if only Frank Welker could get one great screen role. ;)
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Susan Umpleby

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---------In addition, it's hard to say that someone with 40+ films under
their belt & more certain to come is a "flash in the pan." :-)


Opencity

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>>Some Oscar-winning pan-flashers: George Chakiris, Lila Kedrova, Estelle
>>Parsons, Tatum O'Neal, Louise Fletcher, F. Murray Abraham, Marlee Matlin,
>Mira
>>Sorvino, Mercedes Ruehl.
>
>Kedrova was a foreigner and an old woman. What kind of American movie
>career was she going to have?
>

French actress Lila Kedrova was actually not an old woman when she starred in
her Oscar winning film. She died earlier this year, some 35 years after "Zorba
the Greek" was made (and she was actually a last minute replacement for Simone
Signoret, who withdrew from the film when production was about to begin).

Peter Reiher

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OJones7893 wrote:

> Daphne Zuniga - She had a blooming film career in the mid- and late '80's
> ("Gross Anatomy" and "The Sure Thing"). She is a good actor, but being on that
> trashy nighttime soap [Melrose Place] apparently hasn't helped her film career.
> Since the mid- '90's, she's only done TV work (most of which isn't very
> memorable.).

It's hard to go from TV to movies. It's very hard to go from movies to
TV
to movies again, since the presumption is that you switched to TV
because
you couldn't hack it in films.
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Peter Reiher
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<http://fmg-www.cs.ucla.edu/reiher>

t.cruise

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:24:48 -0500, "Endymion9"
<endy...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher after the SW trilogy. Hamil's only good roles
>after SWI were The Big Red One and Corvette Summer. Then he nose nived into
>obscurety. Fisher turned her talents to writing.

Although Carrie Fisher has concentrated more on writing and producing,
she has also done some good work in front of the camera. In "When
Harry Met Sally," she was perfect. I can close my eyes and smile
while visualizing the scene:

Marie: The point is, he just spent $120 on a new nightgown for his
wife. I don't think he's ever gonna leave her.
Sally Albright: No one thinks he's ever gonna leave her.
Marie: You're right, you're right, I know you're right.

T.C.

Brent McKee

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He also did an episode of the TV series "Trapper John MD" where he played a
doctor. The thing is that I don't think that Russell ever really considered
himself to be a professional actor. If I'm not mistaken he had a "day job".
His success in "Best Years" comes as much from being the right person in the
right place at the right time as from any major talent. (That came out
wrong; Russell was undoubtedly talented but that had less to do with his
getting the part than his physical situation). Another Oscar winner who
comes to mind as being in the same situation is Dr. Hang S. Ngor; a talented
actor, but someone who was cast less for what he could do as for other
qualities.

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Brent McKee

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Endymion9 <endy...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher after the SW trilogy. Hamil's only good
roles
> after SWI were The Big Red One and Corvette Summer. Then he nose nived
into
> obscurety. Fisher turned her talents to writing.

So did Hamil -- the difference is that he writes comic books (true).


Opencity

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Whatever happened to Candy Clark, who got an Oscar nomination for "American
Graffiti" and starred opposite David Bowie in "The Man Who Fell to Earth"?

John Harkness

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On 24 Oct 2000 15:36:55 GMT, open...@aol.com (Opencity) wrote:

>Whatever happened to Candy Clark, who got an Oscar nomination for "American
>Graffiti" and starred opposite David Bowie in "The Man Who Fell to Earth"?

Remarkable staying poer, actually -- she's still working.

Hadn't realized how much until I checked

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Clark,+Candy

John Harkness

Mpoconnor7

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>It's hard to go from TV to movies. It's very hard to go from movies to
>TV
>to movies again, since the presumption is that you switched to TV
>because
>you couldn't hack it in films.

One of the only examples I can think of is Martin Landau, who started out with
plum supporting roles in "North by Northwest" and "Cleopatra" in the late
50's-early 60's only to wind up on TV on "Mission Impossible" and "Space 1999".
Surely the low point of his career was the first Gilligan's Island reunion
movie, and he disappeared for 6 or 7 years after that before arriving on the
scene as a polished character film supporting actor.

kel...@my-deja.com

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In article <20001023084005...@ng-bh1.aol.com>,
I don't know if this is the right forum to ask this; but does anyone
know what happened to Emilie Francois - the little girl from Sense and
Sensibility? I always thought her performance was one of the most
charming child performances I had seen. I know she was in a movie called
'Paws' since 'Sense and Sensibility', but hasn't seemed to do much
since.

Ariana Richards from 'Jurassic Park' and Anna Chlumsky from the 'My
Girl' films have also not done much in the way of major motion pictures.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

John Gavin

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Ken Wahl
Michael Biehn
Madelyn Smith (outstanding talent)
John Bael
Kevin Dillon
Debra Winger (her egomania did her in)
Andrew Shue

OJones7893

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Nicola Pagett. - a very talented and beguiling actress from England. I've
seen her in two projects, and I loved what I saw in both. She had a minor role
in "Oliver's Story"- the sequel to "Love Story" (she had two scenes), playing
the woman whom Ryan O'Neal's friends were trying to fix him up with, a year or
so after the wife's death. In those three minutes in which Nicola Pagett
appeared, she lit up the screen.

She was even more impressive still as Anna Karenina in the 1970's BBC
miniseries, costarring Stuart Wilson. She brought so much depth to the role
with lots of nuances to the character. Does anyone else remember her in that
miniseries?

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