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National Lampoon's Vacation: where's Elsa ?

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Kerrison

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Oct 4, 2011, 3:46:36 AM10/4/11
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I see from IMDB that Elsa Lanchester made her final screen appearance
(uncredited) as Grandma in National Lampoon's Vacation (1983), the
year before she died. Does anyone know whereabouts she appeared in the
movie, as there are lots of clips from it on You Tube and she might be
in one of those. Thanks.

Will Dockery

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Oct 6, 2011, 9:08:53 PM10/6/11
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I've seen the film dozens of times, most recently last summer via the
DVD collection... but this doesn't ring a bell at all, right now.

Something to look for later tonight, I reckon.

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Mack A. Damia

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Oct 6, 2011, 9:37:58 PM10/6/11
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:08:53 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
<will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 4, 3:46 am, Kerrison <kerrison126-spar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> I see from IMDB that Elsa Lanchester made her final screen appearance
>> (uncredited) as Grandma in National Lampoon's Vacation (1983), the
>> year before she died. Does anyone know whereabouts she appeared in the
>> movie, as there are lots of clips from it on You Tube and she might be
>> in one of those. Thanks.
>
>I've seen the film dozens of times, most recently last summer via the
>DVD collection... but this doesn't ring a bell at all, right now.
>

Right away, I thought of the dead old lady on top of the Wagon Queen
Family Truckster, but that was Imogene Coca. Or at least I picture
her on top of the wagon sitting in a rocker.

No Grandma, though. Don't have a clue.

Kerrison

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Oct 7, 2011, 10:36:37 AM10/7/11
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On Oct 7, 2:37 am, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:08:53 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
>
Thanks ... It's odd because although she's listed as being in the
film, as per the IMDB link below, I feel sure I read somewhere
(perhaps in one of the obituaries) that in 1983 (the date of
'Vacation') she'd had a stroke or heart attack which left her in an
oxygen tent for the last year of her life (she died in 1984). I wonder
if this reference is a mistake because I can't believe that even in a
small part someone like Elsa Lanchester would go "uncredited." And
since you guys can recall no "Grandma" in any case, I'm thinking IMDB
may have got it wrong!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006471/filmoyear

Mack A. Damia

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Oct 7, 2011, 7:39:12 PM10/7/11
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Could it have been, "Christmas Vacation"? I haven't checked it out,
but I did put "National Lampoon's Vaction, grandma" into Google, and
it appears that it's a common misconception. Many more think it was
grandma, too.

Also, there were seven minutes cut from the original film, so.......







Mack A. Damia

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Oct 7, 2011, 9:09:03 PM10/7/11
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.....who died and was put on top of the wagon.

(Clarification)

Kerrison

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Nov 19, 2011, 3:45:08 AM11/19/11
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On Oct 8, 1:09 am, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:39:12 -0700, Mack A. Damia
>
>
>
>
>
> <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 07:36:37 -0700 (PDT), Kerrison
> ><kerrison126-spar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>On Oct 7, 2:37 am, Mack A. Damia  <mybaconbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:08:53 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
>
> >>> <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >On Oct 4, 3:46 am, Kerrison <kerrison126-spar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> >> I see from IMDB thatElsaLanchestermade her final screen appearance
> >>> >> (uncredited) as Grandma inNationalLampoon'sVacation(1983), the
> >>> >> year before she died. Does anyone know whereabouts she appeared in the
> >>> >> movie, as there are lots of clips from it on You Tube and she might be
> >>> >> in one of those. Thanks.
>
> >>> >I've seen the film dozens of times, most recently last summer via the
> >>> >DVD collection... but this doesn't ring a bell at all, right now.
>
> >>> Right away, I thought of the dead old lady on top of the Wagon Queen
> >>> Family Truckster, but that was Imogene Coca. Or at least I picture
> >>> her on top of the wagon sitting in a rocker.
>
> >>> No Grandma, though. Don't have a clue.
>
> >>Thanks ... It's odd because although she's listed as being in the
> >>film, as per the IMDB link below, I feel sure I read somewhere
> >>(perhaps in one of the obituaries) that in 1983 (the date of
> >>'Vacation') she'd had a stroke or heart attack which left her in an
> >>oxygen tent for the last year of her life (she died in 1984). I wonder
> >>if this reference is a mistake because I can't believe that even in a
> >>small part someone likeElsaLanchesterwould go "uncredited." And
> >>since you guys can recall no "Grandma" in any case, I'm thinking IMDB
> >>may have got it wrong!
>
> >>http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006471/filmoyear
>
> >Could it have been, "ChristmasVacation"?  I haven't checked it out,
> >but I did put "NationalLampoon'sVaction, grandma" into Google, and
> >it appears that it's a common misconception.  Many more think it was
> >grandma, too.
>
> .....who died and was put on top of the wagon.
>
> (Clarification)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just returning to this briefly because I finally watched the DVD of
this movie and there's no "grandma" anywhere to be seen. Consequently
there is no Elsa Lanchester. The missing seven minutes was an
alternative scene at the start of the film round the breakfast table
(it's discussed on the IMDB message board by someone who has seen it)
with just the four main characters (Chevy Chase, his wife and two
kids) talking about going to Hawaii. No grandma there either. The
woman who died and was put onto the top of the wagon was Aunt Edna,
played by Imogene Coca. The 'Christmas Vacation' movie was made in
1989, several years after Elsa had died. In short, she was never in
this film, so goodness knows how she came to be listed in the cast on
IMDB. The reference is confusing so should be deleted!
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