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Tom Miller

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I just saw "The Lavender Hill Mob" and was quite proud of myself to
recognize Audrey Hepburn in a very brief role early in the movie as
one of the South American girls thanking Alec Guiness for his party.
She has maybe 6 seconds of screen time and one barely audible line.

This led to think of other very tiny parts of future stars, (maybe
this is where they got their SAG cards) and I thought of:

Richard Dreyfuss in the Graduate (one of the housemates in Katherine
Ross' house at Berkeley. Standing behind "Mr. Roper") maybe 30
seconds of screen time and one line.

Kevin Costner in Night Shift (one of the guys in a conga line at the
morgue's frat party) Maybe 5 seconds of screen time and no lines
excpet for maybe a "woo hoo".

I also thought of Marilyn Monroe in All About Eve, but the character
appears in more than one scene and has several lines, so I say she
doesn't count.

Any other thoughts of future megastars in ultra tiny early roles?

Tom Miller (TCMi...@cris.com)


T. Cruise

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On Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:14:24 GMT, TCMi...@concentric.net (Tom Miller)
wrote:
SNIP

>This led to think of other very tiny parts of future stars, (maybe
>this is where they got their SAG cards) and I thought of:
>
>Richard Dreyfuss in the Graduate (one of the housemates in Katherine
>Ross' house at Berkeley. Standing behind "Mr. Roper") maybe 30
>seconds of screen time and one line.
>

Check out Richard Dreyfus, earlier the same year in "Valley Of The
Dolls." At the end of the film he's the young man who who knocks on
Neely O'Hara's dressing room door. Tom Selleck has a couple of lines
in "Coma." Marilyn Monroe's one line in the Marx Brother's "Love
Happy." Tom Cruise's few lines in "The Outsiders."

It's also interesting to see child actors who became leading men.
River Phoenix and Ethan Hawke in "Explorers." C.Thomas Howell in
"E.T."

T.Cruise

larry ward

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>Any other thoughts of future megastars in ultra tiny early roles?

Harrison Ford in THE CONVERSATION, APOCALYPSE NOW, and DEAD HEAT ON A
MERRY-GO-ROUND.

S Byrnes

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In <3210cf1f...@nuhou.aloha.net> cru...@aloha.net (T. Cruise)
writes:
Harrison Ford played a bellboy delivering a message in a Jmaes
Coburn film from the sixties. Not sure which one though-DEAD HEAT ON
THE MERRY-GO-ROUND or THE PRESIDENT'S ANALYST. Marilyn Monroe also had
a small role in THE ASPHALT JUNGLE.
Steve

Jesse Skeen

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Jeff Goldblum as one of the thugs who kills Chuck Bronson's wife in Death
Wish.

Jim Carrey in a very small part in Peggy Sue Got Murdered, er, Married.
(Still better than any scene in Ace Ventura!)

John Travolta in Carrie.

Shannen Doherty's voice in The Secret of NIMH

dtk

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In article <3210cf1f...@nuhou.aloha.net>, cru...@aloha.net (T.
Cruise) wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:14:24 GMT, TCMi...@concentric.net (Tom Miller)
> wrote:
> SNIP
> >This led to think of other very tiny parts of future stars, (maybe
> >this is where they got their SAG cards) and I thought of:
> >
> >Richard Dreyfuss in the Graduate (one of the housemates in Katherine
> >Ross' house at Berkeley. Standing behind "Mr. Roper") maybe 30
> >seconds of screen time and one line.

"I'll call the cops! Should I call the cops? I'll call the cops"

> Check out Richard Dreyfus, earlier the same year in "Valley Of The
> Dolls." At the end of the film he's the young man who who knocks on
> Neely O'Hara's dressing room door. Tom Selleck has a couple of lines
> in "Coma." Marilyn Monroe's one line in the Marx Brother's "Love
> Happy." Tom Cruise's few lines in "The Outsiders."


Dustin Hoffman having a whiny argument with his girlfriend in
"The Tiger Makes Out" (maybe 15 seconds on screen)

Selleck (sans moustache) was also in "Myra Breckinridge"

Schwartzenegger as a bodyguard in Altman's "The Long Goodbye"

and of course Stallone in "The Prisoner of 2nd Avenue" and "Bananas"

Arthur Wohlwill

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Sylvester Stallone has an appearance role in The Prisoner of Second(?) Avenue.

A young Melanie Griffith in "The Dead Pool" (I think).


Arthur Wohlwill adwo...@UIC.EDU

Kent Gray

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Leonard Nimoy has about 10 seconds in the movie "Them!"

William Sakovich

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In article <4uouer$p...@herald.concentric.net>,

TCMi...@concentric.net (Tom Miller) wrote:
> Any other thoughts of future megastars in ultra tiny early roles?

I haven't seen the film for a while now, but a mutual admirer of Tommy
Lee Jones tells me that he is one of Ryan O'Neal's college roommates
(?) in Love Story.

- Bill Sakovich (sako...@gol.com)


Andy Ruina

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Robert Duvall in "To Kill A Mockingbird (1962?)

Hervey

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I saw Bruce Willis on late night TV giving a plug for Nobody's Fool. The
host (Letterman?), showed a clip of Willis working previously with Paul
Newman: he was shown for a split second as one of the jury members in The
Verdict. Look at all that hair!

I just watched All About Eve, and although I know this was not her first
screen appearance, Marilyn Monroe looked stunning as Miss Casswell. Same
with her appearance as the kept woman in The Asphalt Jungle. Much more
beautiful than when she became popular.

Shaun

Jeffrey Davis

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Arthur Wohlwill wrote:

> A young Melanie Griffith in "The Dead Pool" (I think).

> Griffith's role in "The Dead Pool" wasn't exactly small. She
appears in several scenes and probably has about as many lines
as Joann Woodward. Griffith more or less did a reprise of that
role in the "Night Moves" later that year. Much better
flick, too.

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Christopher Siciliano

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Jim Carrey also played the rock star in "The Dead Pool"

Martin Sheen jumped off the roof in the opening scene of the TV movie
"Then Came Bronson"

Scribbler

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Jeff Goldblum is also in a very brief spot in a woody Allen flick--I
believe Annie Hall--at the California party scene? talking on the phone.

Berge Garabedian

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Christopher Walken and Jeff Goldblum in ANNIE HALL
James Woods in THE WAY WE WERE
Nicolas Cage in FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH
William Shatner in THE NUREMBERG TRIALS
Brad Pitt in TRUE ROMANCE (or was he BIG already then??)

Berge
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ri...@delphi.com

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Robert Redford appears in at least two Perry Mason shows from the black
and white era of television.

Matt Beckwith

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You know what would be really neat? If some current mega-stars would
take minor roles in new films.

Also, something I've always wanted to see is a movie made with two
big-name stars in the two leading roles, then the same movie remade by
the same actors, only playing the opposite leading roles! We don't
usually think of actors as being actors, you know. We think they're
picked for the fit between their usual screen personalities and their
roles. But there actually are some pretty fabulous ACTORS out there, who
could play any roles.

--

Matt Beckwith
http://users.southeast.net/~beckwith/

PJK

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In article <4uuuff$4...@jaxnet.southeast.net>,
on 15 Aug 1996 10:34:23 GMT,

I've read that Olivier and Ralph Richardson used to play the different leads
when doing Shakespeare on the stage. Something on the order of "I'll be Iago
this time. You played him last time."

Pjk

T. Cruise

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On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:31:20, lod...@uiuc.edu (Laurisa O'Dear) wrote:


>OK, I've always wanted to ask this group this question. In the early 80's, I
>saw a bad movie at the drive-in called "<something>: Adventures in the
>Forbidden Zone", which I'm sure starred Molly Ringwald when she was young,
>probably a teenager. I can't remember the first part of the title of the
>movie, but I'm sure that was her. It was a very strange sci-fi movie and had
>a villain who didn't have any legs, and the bottom part of his body was a big
>mechanical arm. I know I'm not crazy, but does anybody else in the world
>remember this movie???
>

Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone (1983)

Cast (in credits order)
Peter Strauss.... Wolff
Molly Ringwald.... Niki
Ernie Hudson.... Washington
Andrea Marcovicci.... Chalmers
Michael Ironside.... Overdog

I've always been a fan of 3-D films, which is why I saw
"Spacehunter..." Unfortunately, other than some 3-D effects, the film
was forgettable.

T.Cruise

PJK

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In article <RNHxRO...@delphi.com>,

on Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:10:33 -0500, <ri...@delphi.com> writes:
>Robert Redford appears in at least two Perry Mason shows from the black
>and white era of television.

And one Twilight Zone episode. He plays Death who has come for an old, sick
woman.

Pjk

Laurel M. Lacey

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I don't know if thios has been mentioned... Meg Ryan in Top Gun
as Goose's wife.

Laurisa O'Dear

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In article <RNHxRO...@delphi.com> ri...@delphi.com writes:
>From: ri...@delphi.com

>Subject: Re: very small early roles for future stars
>Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:10:33 -0500

>Robert Redford appears in at least two Perry Mason shows from the black
>and white era of television.

OK, I've always wanted to ask this group this question. In the early 80's, I

saw a bad movie at the drive-in called "<something>: Adventures in the
Forbidden Zone", which I'm sure starred Molly Ringwald when she was young,
probably a teenager. I can't remember the first part of the title of the
movie, but I'm sure that was her. It was a very strange sci-fi movie and had
a villain who didn't have any legs, and the bottom part of his body was a big
mechanical arm. I know I'm not crazy, but does anybody else in the world
remember this movie???

Laurie

Laurisa O'Dear
lod...@uiuc.edu


Boyd Campbell

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>
> I've read that Olivier and Ralph Richardson used to play the different leads
> when doing Shakespeare on the stage. Something on the order of "I'll be Iago
> this time. You played him last time."
>
> Pjk

Could you imagine having both parts committed to memory? Often classical
actors keep a few great plays ready to go at a moment's notice.

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Jan Penovich

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ri...@delphi.com writes:

>Robert Redford appears in at least two Perry Mason shows from the black
>and white era of television.

Wasn't Kevin Costner the dead body in The Big Chill?

(Okay, no jokes about him having the emotions of a dead body in
some of his other movies. :-) )

jan
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P Matwychuk

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Laurisa O'Dear (lod...@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: OK, I've always wanted to ask this group this question. In the early 80's, I
: saw a bad movie at the drive-in called "<something>: Adventures in the
: Forbidden Zone", which I'm sure starred Molly Ringwald when she was young,
: probably a teenager. I can't remember the first part of the title of the
: movie, but I'm sure that was her. It was a very strange sci-fi movie and had
: a villain who didn't have any legs, and the bottom part of his body was a big
: mechanical arm. I know I'm not crazy, but does anybody else in the world
: remember this movie???
:

Absolutely: SPACEHUNTER: ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE, originally
released in a headache-inducing variation of 3D, was one of Molly
Ringwald's earliest roles. (She had a better early role in Paul
Mazursky's TEMPEST, around the same time.)

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Jeff M.

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Laurisa O'Dear wrote:
>
> In article <RNHxRO...@delphi.com> ri...@delphi.com writes:
> >From: ri...@delphi.com
> >Subject: Re: very small early roles for future stars
> >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:10:33 -0500
>
> >Robert Redford appears in at least two Perry Mason shows from the black
> >and white era of television.
>
> OK, I've always wanted to ask this group this question. In the early 80's, I
> saw a bad movie at the drive-in called "<something>: Adventures in the
> Forbidden Zone", which I'm sure starred Molly Ringwald when she was young,
> probably a teenager. I can't remember the first part of the title of the
> movie, but I'm sure that was her. It was a very strange sci-fi movie and had
> a villain who didn't have any legs, and the bottom part of his body was a big
> mechanical arm. I know I'm not crazy, but does anybody else in the world
> remember this movie???
>
> Laurie
>
> Laurisa O'Dear
> lod...@uiuc.edu

You are not crazy. "Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone"
came out in 1983. Michael Ironside also had a role in this sci-fi
mess.

- Jeff M.

Bryan Stewart

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ri...@delphi.com wrote:
>
> Robert Redford appears in at least two Perry Mason shows from the black
> and white era of television.

So did Ryan O'Neil.

Bryan Stewart

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Andy Ruina wrote:
>
> Robert Duvall in "To Kill A Mockingbird (1962?)

Duvall also appeared in an episode of "The Time Tunnel" TV series in
1966. He looked ridiculous as an alien wearing tights. He also
appeared in a segment of "The Outer Limits" earlier. Martin Sheen made
his first appearence on that show as well.

Scribbler

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:

> >Also, something I've always wanted to see is a movie made with two
> >big-name stars in the two leading roles, then the same movie remade by
> >the same actors, only playing the opposite leading roles! We don't
> >usually think of actors as being actors, you know. We think they're
> >picked for the fit between their usual screen personalities and their
> >roles. But there actually are some pretty fabulous ACTORS out there, who
> >could play any roles.
>
>

> I've read that Olivier and Ralph Richardson used to play the different leads
> when doing Shakespeare on the stage. Something on the order of "I'll be Iago
> this time. You played him last time."
>
> Pjk


I was a theatre major in university--that's what theatre actors tend to
do--it's an exercise as well as a hobby because these actors love the
script, and the idea of pretending, so much. I know twin brothers who do
the same--I know dozens of people who do the same. But Hollywood? not on
THEIR time, baby.

Cheers,
Scribbler

PJK

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In article <321369...@mail.netdoor.com>,
on Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:16:42 -0700,

Boyd Campbell <Boyd> writes:
>>
>> I've read that Olivier and Ralph Richardson used to play the different leads
>> when doing Shakespeare on the stage. Something on the order of "I'll be Iago
>> this time. You played him last time."
>>
>> Pjk
>
>Could you imagine having both parts committed to memory? Often classical
>actors keep a few great plays ready to go at a moment's notice.
>
>
>
>--
> A. Boyd Campbell, II
> Email:Cam...@netdoor.com
>
> Personal/Theatre
> http://www2.netdoor.com/~campbab/index.html
> King Kong
> http://www2.netdoor.com/~campbab/kong.html
> Willis O'Brien
> http://www2.netdoor.com/~campbab/Obie.html

I had the pleasure of seeing Othello on Broadway several years ago. It starred
Christopher Plummer and James Earl Jones, and I don't recall them trading
roles. 8-). I am waiting fot the new Othello to see how Lawrence Fishburn does.
His best role so far, IMO, is In Search of Bobby Fisher.

Pjk

Libby McGroom

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Nicolas Cage (Coppola) as Judge Reinhold's friend in Fast Times at
Ridgemont High. Also Anthony Edwards and Eric Stolz as two of Sean Pean's
surfer friends.

Libby

Cliff Brown

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kur...@musc.edu (dtk) wrote:
>In article <3210cf1f...@nuhou.aloha.net>, cru...@aloha.net (T.
>Cruise) wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:14:24 GMT, TCMi...@concentric.net (Tom Miller)
>> wrote:
>> SNIP
>> >This led to think of other very tiny parts of future stars, (maybe
>> >this is where they got their SAG cards) and I thought of:
>> >
>> >Richard Dreyfuss in the Graduate (one of the housemates in Katherine
>> >Ross' house at Berkeley. Standing behind "Mr. Roper") maybe 30
>> >seconds of screen time and one line.
>
>"I'll call the cops! Should I call the cops? I'll call the cops"
>
>
>> Check out Richard Dreyfus, earlier the same year in "Valley Of The
>> Dolls." At the end of the film he's the young man who who knocks on
>> Neely O'Hara's dressing room door. Tom Selleck has a couple of lines
>> in "Coma." Marilyn Monroe's one line in the Marx Brother's "Love
>> Happy." Tom Cruise's few lines in "The Outsiders."
>
>
>Dustin Hoffman having a whiny argument with his girlfriend in
>"The Tiger Makes Out" (maybe 15 seconds on screen)
>
>Selleck (sans moustache) was also in "Myra Breckinridge"
>
>Schwartzenegger as a bodyguard in Altman's "The Long Goodbye"
>
>and of course Stallone in "The Prisoner of 2nd Avenue" and "Bananas"

Soory if this is a repeat, I missed the start of this thread.

How about Kevin Costner in The Big Chill? You can't get a much smaller
role then that. After the cutting was done, all that was left of
Costner was his arm in the opening scene.

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Chris Loar

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Berge Garabedian wrote:
>
> Christopher Walken and Jeff Goldblum in ANNIE HALL

Also Sigourney Weaver, although you can't see her face, just
her stature.

>William Shatner in THE NUREMBERG TRIALS

I recently saw a film version of _The Brothers Karamozov_ with Shatner
as Alyosha (sp?). Not such a small role, but a bit obscure. And
out of character.

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Bryan Stewart

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How 'bout this one. Sally Kellerman in "Reform School Girls" (1957), an
early teenage, gang bang drive-in feature. She looked like a heavy
boned brunhilda in that one, with sleazy makeup and huge lips. I almost
didn't recognize her at first until she opened her mouth and that
familiar, throaty voice of hers came out. She still sounds the same.

Tyne Daley in "Angels Unchained" (1970). Standard low-budget biker
flick. She was a lot thinner then. No 'Lacy' there.

Jack Nicholson in "The Cry Baby Killer" (1958). Whaaa...! Whaaa...!
One of Jack's best films and with his (then) baby-face, he looked the
part too.

Robert Vaughn as "The Teenaged Cave Man" (I think). I saw this one a
long time ago where he spends the whole film, wrestling with actors
dressed in ape suits.

dtk

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In article <lodear.12...@uiuc.edu>, lod...@uiuc.edu (Laurisa
O'Dear) wrote:


>
> OK, I've always wanted to ask this group this question. In the early 80's, I
> saw a bad movie at the drive-in called "<something>: Adventures in the
> Forbidden Zone", which I'm sure starred Molly Ringwald when she was young,
> probably a teenager. I can't remember the first part of the title of the
> movie, but I'm sure that was her. It was a very strange sci-fi movie and had
> a villain who didn't have any legs, and the bottom part of his body was a big
> mechanical arm. I know I'm not crazy, but does anybody else in the world
> remember this movie???


It was called "Spacehunter:Adventures in the Forbidden Zone"
(1983)

Arthur Wohlwill

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In article <davidis.12...@interaccess.com> dav...@interaccess.com (David Silberberg) writes:
>From: dav...@interaccess.com (David Silberberg)

>Subject: Re: very small early roles for future stars
>Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:37:09

>In article <32139B...@idsonline.com> Bryan Stewart <bste...@idsonline.com> writes:
>>

>>Jack Nicholson in "The Cry Baby Killer" (1958). Whaaa...! Whaaa...!
>>One of Jack's best films and with his (then) baby-face, he looked the
>>part too.


>Wasn't he also in the chorus of "South Pacific" at about the same time?


He also had a small role in the original "Little Shop of Horrors"

Arthur Wohlwill adwo...@UIC.EDU


Lita

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What about Denis Hopper in "Rebel Without a Cause".

--Lita


Jim Beaver

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Strother Martin dives into a swimming pool in the 1950 Joan Crawford pic
THE DAMNED DON'T CRY. (He almost made the Olympics as a springboard
diver.)

John Wayne has no lines as an airplane co-pilot diving off a crashed
plane to rescue a drowning passenger in CENTRAL AIRPORT.

George Chakiris is one of the dancers in Marilyn's big dance number
"DIAMONDS ARE A GIRL'S BEST FRIEND" in GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES.

Steve McQueen is a juvenile delinquent in a brief scene in SOMEBODY UP
THERE LIKES ME.

The previously mentioned film with Melanie Griffith is THE DROWNING POOL,
not THE DEAD POOL.

John Cassavetes is an extra in FOURTEEN HOURS.

Kevin Costner has a single line in FRANCES.

Tony Curtis is a dancing extra (dancing with Yvonne De Carlo) in CRISS
CROSS.

James Dean has tiny parts in several films: SAILOR BEWARE, TROUBLE ALONG
THE WAY, HAS ANYBODY SEEN MY GAL?, FIXED BAYONETS.

Alan Ladd is a reporter at the end of CITIZEN KANE.

Joe Pesci is a musician in HEY, LET'S TWIST.

Many more where these came from.


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die, and what befalls him is a tragic lot. There is no denying this in
the final end -but we must deny it all along the way."Thos. Wolfe