Intermittant musician setting tone and moving the story along.
... et al.
heartbreak-song for a while, when in Catalinas home-village when he thought
he had failed to become her 'hero'. Not the same thing exactly but somehow
that made me think of a movie ..)
I'm thinking about movie that i think i liked. But the thing is, i don't
remember anything about it at the moment except that it at various points in
the movie had a guy with a guitar, who was as far as i recall it not
otherwise part of the story, kind of bridging the story to the next part.
/I_think/ he played different kinds of music that depended on what had
transpired or what was about to.
Can anyone tell what movie i might have in mind? But perhaps this device
with an intermittent singing musician has been used in many movies?
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>
> I'm thinking about movie that i think i liked. But the thing is, i don't
> remember anything about it at the moment except that it at various points
> in the movie had a guy with a guitar, who was as far as i recall it not
> otherwise part of the story, kind of bridging the story to the next part.
> /I_think/ he played different kinds of music that depended on what had
> transpired or what was about to.
>
> Can anyone tell what movie i might have in mind? But perhaps this device
> with an intermittent singing musician has been used in many movies?
>
>
> --
Jonathan Richman?
Neil Innes also did a little of it in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
... et al.
>> I'm thinking about movie that i think i liked. But the thing is, i don't
>> remember anything about it at the moment except that it at various points
>> in the movie had a guy with a guitar, who was as far as i recall it not
>> otherwise part of the story, kind of bridging the story to the next part.
>> /I_think/ he played different kinds of music that depended on what had
>> transpired or what was about to.
>>
>> Can anyone tell what movie i might have in mind? But perhaps this device
>> with an intermittent singing musician has been used in many movies?
>>
>
> Could it be "There's Something About Mary", with the supremely irritating
> Jonathan Richman?
Thanks.
From an IMDB Usercomment: "This is a classic satire, replete with balladeer
narrator." This is obviously the movie, but even though i remember the
movies plot and many scenes i still can't connect the dots to the musician
narrator in it in my own memory. It's been a few years since i saw it.
I have no opinion about Jonathan Richman outside this movie, but from what i
recall, i thought he and his intermissions worked great in this movie.
Thanks again.
Halmyre
jle...@columbus.rr.com says...
Stubby Kaye and Nat King Cole in 'Cat Ballou'?
There's a calypso singer in 'I Walked With A Zombie' who I think
provides a narrative at various points.
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El Klauso
same linkage device that was used in "Cat Ballou?"
... et al.
> I don't know exactly what film you're refering to, but is that the
> same linkage device that was used in "Cat Ballou?"
Yup, the same thing as i now remember them. I had "There's Something About
Mary" in my mind but i think both these movies have the singing narrator
(alone or with company) present in the sets appearing from time to time, but
that the actors of the main plot are oblivious to their existens (totally or
for the most part). I think it worked fine in both these movies.
( I've seen "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" several times but can't recall
the singing narrator in that one at the moment. )
Harkness
wrote:
> El Klauso wrote:
> > I don't know exactly what film you're refering to, but is that the
> > same linkage device that was used in "Cat Ballou?"
>
> Yup, the same thing as i now remember them. I had "There's Something About
> Mary" in my mind but i think both these movies have the singing narrator
> (alone or with company) present in the sets appearing from time to time, but
> that the actors of the main plot are oblivious to their existens (totally or
> for the most part). I think it worked fine in both these movies.
>
> ( I've seen "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" several times but can't recall
> the singing narrator in that one at the moment. )
>
"Brave Sir Robin ran away...."
John Harkness
Anim8rFSK
Harkness <cali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not a narrator though; that's a troubadour right behind him.
Isn't there a singing narrator in Kirk Douglas' THE VILLAIN?
David Oberman
>> "Brave Sir Robin ran away...."
>>
>That's not a narrator though; that's a troubadour right behind him.
>
>Isn't there a singing narrator in Kirk Douglas' THE VILLAIN?
Dunno, but there's a singing narrator (or narrative song?) in the
James Mitchum movie "Young Guns of Texas." It's sung during many of
the "dramatic" moments.
Howard Brazee
>I don't know exactly what film you're refering to, but is that the
>same linkage device that was used in "Cat Ballou?"
I liked it there, and in _Little Shop of Horrors_.
... et al.
> Harkness <cali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "... et al." wrote:
>>
>>> El Klauso wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know exactly what film you're refering to, but is that the
>>>> same linkage device that was used in "Cat Ballou?"
>>>
>>> Yup, the same thing as i now remember them. I had "There's Something About
>>> Mary" in my mind but i think both these movies have the singing narrator
>>> (alone or with company) present in the sets appearing from time to time, but
>>> that the actors of the main plot are oblivious to their existens (totally or
>>> for the most part). I think it worked fine in both these movies.
>>>
>>> ( I've seen "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" several times but can't recall
>>> the singing narrator in that one at the moment. )
>>
>> "Brave Sir Robin ran away...."
Ahh.. Right!! Trodding along with the others to the sound of coconuts. LOL.
> That's not a narrator though; that's a troubadour right behind him.
( MP3-player <- Walkman <- Live troubadour. Nothing new under the sun, eh? )
It's different as it is specific for when that group rides around, i think,
but it's kind of in the same vein as he sings about the things happening in
the story, didn't he? Didn't the others react to him only one time - just
when he sang the bit _Harkness_ used above? So it depend on how you look at
it. .. ( If they otherwise were unaware of him, what wall would that be that
they broke there? )
> Isn't there a singing narrator in Kirk Douglas' THE VILLAIN?
No idea, but suddenly i'm associating all this with the chorus used in
classic greek drama, something of which i know precious little. I don't know
how much narrating the chorus did, neither if the actors were aware of and
reacted to it nor if they were present on-stage or were standing off-stage.
A quick check at <http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Drama> suggest that the
role of the chorus in greek dramas changed much over time.
But just maybe the examples give above can be seen as some sort of a modern
chorus. If so, again, there's nothing new under the sun.
Anim8rFSK
No, I think they're always aware of him. He's basically the troubadour
from Robin Hood, Alan-A-Dale.
>
> > Isn't there a singing narrator in Kirk Douglas' THE VILLAIN?
>
> No idea, but suddenly i'm associating all this with the chorus used in
> classic greek drama, something of which i know precious little. I don't know
> how much narrating the chorus did, neither if the actors were aware of and
> reacted to it nor if they were present on-stage or were standing off-stage.
> A quick check at <http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Drama> suggest that the
> role of the chorus in greek dramas changed much over time.
> But just maybe the examples give above can be seen as some sort of a modern
> chorus. If so, again, there's nothing new under the sun.
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... et al.
> "... et al." wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>
>>> Harkness <cali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "... et al." wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ( I've seen "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" several times but
>>>>> can't recall the singing narrator in that one at the moment. )
>>>>
>>>> "Brave Sir Robin ran away...."
>>
>>> That's not a narrator though; that's a troubadour right behind him.
>>
>> It's different as it is specific for when that group rides around, i think,
>> but it's kind of in the same vein as he sings about the things happening in
>> the story, didn't he? Didn't the others react to him only one time - just
>> when he sang the bit _Harkness_ used above? So it depend on how you look at
>> it. .. ( If they otherwise were unaware of him, what wall would that be that
>> they broke there? )
>
> No, I think they're always aware of him. He's basically the troubadour
> from Robin Hood, Alan-A-Dale.
I couldn't even remember him at all at first, so, if you say so then i don't
doubt you are correct.
Anim8rFSK
"... et al." <lo...@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
> > "... et al." wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>
> >>> Harkness <cali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "... et al." wrote:
> >>>>
>
> >>>>> ( I've seen "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" several times but
> >>>>> can't recall the singing narrator in that one at the moment. )
> >>>>
> >>>> "Brave Sir Robin ran away...."
> >>
> >>> That's not a narrator though; that's a troubadour right behind him.
> >>
> >> It's different as it is specific for when that group rides around, i
> >> think,
> >> but it's kind of in the same vein as he sings about the things happening
> >> in
> >> the story, didn't he? Didn't the others react to him only one time - just
> >> when he sang the bit _Harkness_ used above? So it depend on how you look
> >> at
> >> it. .. ( If they otherwise were unaware of him, what wall would that be
> >> that
> >> they broke there? )
> >
> > No, I think they're always aware of him. He's basically the troubadour
> > from Robin Hood, Alan-A-Dale.
>
> I couldn't even remember him at all at first, so, if you say so then i don't
> doubt you are correct.
Hey, I could be wrong, it's been way too long since I've seen it, but my
memory is that he's one of the group.