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Thin Red Line - closer to Caesar

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Richard Fangnail

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Oct 27, 2010, 6:36:29 PM10/27/10
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In the scene with Travolta, the Nick Nolte character says "the closer
you are to Caesar, the greater the fear" - was he talking about
talking with a higher ranking guy, or was he talking about getting
closer to the Japanese? Also, is it a quote from somebody famous?

He mentioned Homer later - he said "rosy-fingered dawn."

I haven't seen the newer DVD yet, what are the deleted scenes?

tomcervo

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Oct 27, 2010, 10:19:10 PM10/27/10
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On Oct 27, 6:36 pm, Richard Fangnail <richardfangn...@excite.com>
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> In the scene with Travolta, the Nick Nolte character says "the closer
> you are to Caesar, the greater the fear" - was he talking about
> talking with a higher ranking guy

Yes.

, or was he talking about getting
> closer to the Japanese?  Also, is it a quote from somebody famous?

A Roman aphorism, or from Machiavelli--Like "Praise from Caesar is
praise indeed".

quote...@yahoo.com

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Oct 27, 2010, 11:52:03 PM10/27/10
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> "the closer you are to Caesar, the greater the fear" - is it a quote
> from somebody famous?
>

Imogene Coca.

mikeos

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Oct 28, 2010, 8:45:59 AM10/28/10
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On 28/10/2010 03:19, tomcervo wrote:
> On Oct 27, 6:36 pm, Richard Fangnail<richardfangn...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>> In the scene with Travolta, the Nick Nolte character says "the closer
>> you are to Caesar, the greater the fear" - was he talking about
>> talking with a higher ranking guy
>
> Yes.
>
> , or was he talking about getting
>> closer to the Japanese? Also, is it a quote from somebody famous?
>
> A Roman aphorism, or from Machiavelli--Like "Praise from Caesar is
> praise indeed".

You certainly knew where you were with Machiavelli!

Flasherly

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Oct 28, 2010, 11:30:47 AM10/28/10
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On Oct 27, 6:36 pm, Richard Fangnail <richardfangn...@excite.com>
wrote:
> In the scene with Travolta, the Nick Nolte character says "the closer
> you are to Caesar, the greater the fear" - was he talking about
> talking with a higher ranking guy, or was he talking about getting
> closer to the Japanese? Also, is it a quote from somebody famous?
>

Presumably a vague inkling of "talking about talking with [what is
higher]," prima facie, is to engage at lower expectations -- a direct
purpose the allusion somehow didn't quite assure, (no less in the same
conversation), by Nolte inasumch saying [to Travolta that he'll
do . . .] 'whatever it takes.' There's two apparent instances where a
focus occurs to interplay upon fear and resolution -- again, apart a
"directed purpose" of Caesar. The first is an "outer and indirect"
appeal to humanity foremost expressed by a subordinate at odds
conflicting with superior orders [as not to engage an entrenched enemy
in a charge];- the second is again humanist, although "inner and
phenomenally" posed upon individualism, a self-realization which
deteriorates when distancing itself from alliances to purpose
(consequential to a dear-john letter). As state objectives, primal
self-preservation of superior virtue [from annihilation by another
state] -- militaristic idealism, is clouded so in preparation by
lesser or disparately trained individuals of standing,
deterministically incapable of exhibiting such higher idealism,
inclusive a sphere and mastery of fear, ennobled leaders are to met in
battle, so fulfilling exemplarily the chosen few.

--
Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once. -WS

Arlo Adams

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Oct 25, 2022, 4:52:10 PM10/25/22
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I like the quote at the end, but the rest of it is impenetrable. Please don't take up teaching.
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