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J. Lower

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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I caught this on AMC this past weekend and was astounded by the bare-assed
swim that "Jane" took with Tarzan.

Even though it was under water the scene was clear and it seemed obvious
that there wasn't a body stocking involved. My question is how this made
it onto the film. If this had been on TBS or network TV I've no doubt it
would have been cut even today. It seems improbably daring for the time
it was made.

BTW - considering that it is a "Tarzan" movie (not my favorite genre) and
an old B&W (again, not my style) I must say that the movie did not suck.
Fairly high praise coming from me.

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El Dorado

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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J. Lower wrote:
>
> I caught this on AMC this past weekend and was astounded by the bare-assed
> swim that "Jane" took with Tarzan.

> BTW - considering that it is a "Tarzan" movie (not my favorite genre) and


> an old B&W (again, not my style) I must say that the movie did not suck.
> Fairly high praise coming from me.
>
> | Jim Lower

Hi Jim... If this was your first exposure to "Tarzan and His Mate", you
lucked out indeed. Almost every professional critic who has addressed
the subject says that, out of all the dozens of "Tarzan" movies that
have been made, this one is the best. There are lengthy sequences that
are wordless, with Tarzan and Jane communicating with their chimps and
the other animals, and despite the absence of dialogue, the movie zips
along at a fine clip.

BTW: The underwater nude scene was for real, but you still haven't seen
it all. AMC did show parts of it, but I've seen the film in theaters
twice, and there's at least another 30 seconds that were cut from the TV
print. And didn't AMC "darken" Jane's body in some frames? That makes
it a bit more PG, probably.

Dan

John Harkness

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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J. Lower wrote:

> I caught this on AMC this past weekend and was astounded by the bare-assed
> swim that "Jane" took with Tarzan.

> Even though it was under water the scene was clear and it seemed obvious


> that there wasn't a body stocking involved. My question is how this made
> it onto the film. If this had been on TBS or network TV I've no doubt it
> would have been cut even today. It seems improbably daring for the time
> it was made.

Tarzan and His Mate was made BEFORE the Production Code took affect --
they got away with some amazing stuff before 1933 or so.

John

bu...@home.com

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Jul 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/15/98
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This film was released just before the movie code gained "teeth."
You'll notice a big difference in films released during (and after) 1935
and those released prior to that. Prior to that time there were many
moments of brief nudity in films. Even the 1929 synchronized silent
serial "Tarzan the Tiger" has Jane in a nude swimming scene.

The nude swimming scene in "Tarzan and his Mate" was doubled. The
complete film is available on laser disc.


El Dorado wrote:
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> J. Lower wrote:
> >
> > I caught this on AMC this past weekend and was astounded by the bare-assed
> > swim that "Jane" took with Tarzan.
>

FRAJM

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Jul 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/15/98
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Do I remember correctly that Maureen O'Sullivan used a body double for the
skinny-dipping sequence? I seem to recall this from last month's obituaries for
her.


Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
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jayembee

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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In article <jlower-1407...@sarasota-dial-6.flnet.com>,
jlo...@flnet.com (J. Lower) wrote:

> I caught this on AMC this past weekend and was astounded by the bare-assed
> swim that "Jane" took with Tarzan.

> Even though it was under water the scene was clear and it seemed obvious


> that there wasn't a body stocking involved. My question is how this made
> it onto the film. If this had been on TBS or network TV I've no doubt it
> would have been cut even today. It seems improbably daring for the time
> it was made.

TARZAN AND HIS MATE was made prior to the Hays Code taking effect. The nude
swim (as well as bare-breasted native women in one of the village scenes at
the beginning of the film) was cut from the movie shortly after its initial
release, and this footage was only recently (between 5 and 10 years ago)
restored to the film. The complete restored version is available on video.

(I assume that AMC editted it slightly, but don't know for sure. I have it,
and the other Weismuller/O'Sullivan Tarzan films, on laserdisc, so I didn't
bother to watch them on AMC.)

Unfortunately for those of us who think that the young Maureen O'Sullivan
was possibly the most adorable and sexiest actress to ever appear on the
silver screen, a body double was used for the nude swim. But I'm more than
satisfied by the barely-leaving-anything-to-the-imagination outfit she wears
during the rest of the film! (She and her successors wore much more modest
outfits in the later films.)

> BTW - considering that it is a "Tarzan" movie (not my favorite genre) and
> an old B&W (again, not my style) I must say that the movie did not suck.
> Fairly high praise coming from me.

I like just about all of the Tarzan films, even the bad ones, but TARZAN AND
HIS MATE is arguably the best in the entire series. I would also recommend
the first of the Weismuller/O'Sullivan films, TARZAN THE APE MAN (regrettably
not part of the AMC package, at least it wasn't when they first acquired it
a year ago) as being about the same level of quality. The later ones with
the two of them, TARZAN ESCAPES, TARZAN FINDS A SON, TARZAN'S SECRET TREASURE,
and TARZAN'S NEW YORK ADVENTURE are lesser films, but still quite enjoyable.
From that point on, they started noticibly decreasing in quality.

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, jbo...@pcs.eds.com)

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michael hollander

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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hi
last summer amc showed almost all of the
tarzan films as part of a film preservation
weekend and all of the films were remasterd and fully restored,and
tarzan and his mate was one of them,and the nude scean was put back
in.all of the films were pristine prints,thanks to amc,also please note
thate when the hays code
went into effect j.w.had to ware his loine cloth
above the navel.
'


bu...@home.com

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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Sorry, but I don't think AMC had anything to do with the restoration of
this film, unless you mean only that they broadcast it.

According to Rudy Behlmer ("Tarzan at MGM," chapter 10 of "The Cinema of
Adventure, Romance, and Terror" 1989, ASC Press), a protection master
positive of the eleven reel version of the film was found in the MGM
archives in 1987. The only thing I've seen AMC do for film preservation
is to sell video tapes.

According to the same source, Josephine McKim, 1932 Olympic swimmer,
doubled for O'Sullivan in the swimming scene.

Hank Gillette

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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In article <6ojtuk$520$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, jbo...@pcs.eds.com
(jayembee) wrote:

>Unfortunately for those of us who think that the young Maureen O'Sullivan
>was possibly the most adorable and sexiest actress to ever appear on the
>silver screen, a body double was used for the nude swim. But I'm more than
>satisfied by the barely-leaving-anything-to-the-imagination outfit she wears
>during the rest of the film! (She and her successors wore much more modest
>outfits in the later films.)

Does anyone know if she wore anything under that loin cloth? There are
some scenes at the end (with the lions) were it looks like you're looking
at Ms. O'Sullivan's bare crotch.

--
Hank Gillette

jayembee

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Jul 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/18/98
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In article <hankgillette-1...@kepnet-dialup-3.kepnet.com>,

I don't know for sure one way or the other. I'd be surprised if
she was wearing *nothing* under it, but it certainly looks as if
she couldn't be wearing anything more than a g-string.

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, jbo...@pcs.eds.com)

"How inexpressibly jocose. You must introduce me to your muse."

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