Forbidden Planet - Old Movies still work
T
Despite recent cgi developments I think sometimes the fact that those
who came before *had* to work harder to get it on the screen meant they
turned out a decent product. (Hmmm, that statement needs some work.)
Sure- old stuff is well, old, but with a little suspension, disbelief
can be held at bay.
Movies as comfort food. There's an interesting concept.
Here's some fun I found btw:
Forbidden Planet quotes on imdb:
<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/quotes>
TBerk
frank habets
>
>
> Despite recent cgi developments I think sometimes the fact that those
> who came before *had* to work harder to get it on the screen meant they
> turned out a decent product. (Hmmm, that statement needs some work.)
I loooved the robot. Second only to the Lost in Space one with the glass pizza head
with twirly anchovies.
Mike O'sullivan
"frank habets" <a...@aggg.com> wrote in message
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I though I read it was the same robot, given a starring role after his
success in FB.
frank habets
>
> I though I read it was the same robot, given a starring role after his
> success in FB.
Actually, there were differences.
The FB robot is called Robbie, has two legs, dome head
The LiS one is the robot-with-no-name, travels on caterpillars (no legs) , and has a dish head
on a stick.
JSTONE9352
>The FB robot is called Robbie, has two legs, dome head
>The LiS one is the robot-with-no-name, travels on caterpillars (no legs) ,
>and has a dish head
>on a stick.
>
>
Didn't the FB robot make a guest appearance on "Lost in Space"?
I'm sure I read that somewhere.
ric...@nospam.edu
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> >Actually, there were differences.
> >The FB robot is called Robbie, has two legs, dome head
> >The LiS one is the robot-with-no-name, travels on caterpillars (no legs)
,
> >and has a dish head
> >on a stick.
> >
> >
>
> Didn't the FB robot make a guest appearance on "Lost in Space"?
Yes indeed. From a "Lost in Space" episode guide
( http://members.ozemail.com.au/~groakes/episode.html ):
The War Of The Robots
Air Dates: 2/9/66 & 6/15/66
Writer: Barney Slater
Director: Sobey Martin
Guest Cast: Robby the Robot
Will finds a robot and repairs it. It helps the Robinsons with their chores,
but is in actuality an evil robot created by an advanced race. It is
programmed to have a will of its own, and it plans to capture the Robinsons
for its masters, and destroy their Robot. [The robot used is actually Robby
the Robot, from several MGM SF movies.]
Robby also appeared in another episode, "The Condemned of Space"
Richard
Steven Litvintchouk
No. In fact, there was an episode of Lost in Space in which the FB
robot, Robby, guest-starred. So in that episode you had both robots.
-- steven L.
Steven Litvintchouk
T wrote:
>
>
> Despite recent cgi developments I think sometimes the fact that those
> who came before *had* to work harder to get it on the screen meant they
> turned out a decent product. (Hmmm, that statement needs some work.)
Also, there was an artistry about the early special effects, that
today's super-realistic CGI doesn't have. Since you couldn't create
super-realistic graphics, you had to use artistic style and artistic
license.
Just watching the huge underground Krell machine you could tell at a
glance that it was animated by Disney artists.
And then you had those wonderful Bonestell paintings in movies like War
of the Worlds.
-- Steven L.
Steven Litvintchouk
ric...@nospam.edu wrote:
> "JSTONE9352" <jston...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>Actually, there were differences.
>>>The FB robot is called Robbie, has two legs, dome head
>>>The LiS one is the robot-with-no-name, travels on caterpillars (no legs)
>
> ,
>
>>>and has a dish head
>>>on a stick.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Didn't the FB robot make a guest appearance on "Lost in Space"?
>
>
>
> Yes indeed. From a "Lost in Space" episode guide
> ( http://members.ozemail.com.au/~groakes/episode.html ):
>
> The War Of The Robots
> Air Dates: 2/9/66 & 6/15/66
> Writer: Barney Slater
> Director: Sobey Martin
> Guest Cast: Robby the Robot
> Will finds a robot and repairs it. It helps the Robinsons with their chores,
> but is in actuality an evil robot created by an advanced race. It is
> programmed to have a will of its own, and it plans to capture the Robinsons
> for its masters, and destroy their Robot.
Was this the only time that Robby played a "heavy" (evil character)?
In FB, of course, Robby was a good guy.
-- Steven L.
Bill Binkelman
> ric...@nospam.edu wrote:
>
(snip)
>
> Was this the only time that Robby played a "heavy" (evil character)?
>
> In FB, of course, Robby was a good guy.
>
IIRC, Robby was in a movie called "The Invisible Boy" sometime shortly
after FB. I don't remember much about it, but I seem to recall that
Robby was first a "bad guy" in the movie (under the control of some
super-computer, I think) then changed and ended up saving the little
kid in the film (the "invisible boy" of the title). It was a pretty
lousy movie, as I recall.
Bill
ric...@nospam.edu
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> > ( http://members.ozemail.com.au/~groakes/episode.html ):
> >
> > The War Of The Robots
> > Air Dates: 2/9/66 & 6/15/66
> > Writer: Barney Slater
> > Director: Sobey Martin
> > Guest Cast: Robby the Robot
> > Will finds a robot and repairs it. It helps the Robinsons with their
chores,
> > but is in actuality an evil robot created by an advanced race. It is
> > programmed to have a will of its own, and it plans to capture the
Robinsons
> > for its masters, and destroy their Robot.
>
> Was this the only time that Robby played a "heavy" (evil character)?
He was a "heavy" of sorts in the movie "the Invisible Boy". I've not seen
it myself,
but from plot descriptions I've read, the movie has Robbie being
surreptitiously
controlled for unsavory ends by the film's villain, an evil supercomputer.
Richard
Vince Macek
Nice bit o' serendipity - Forbidden Planet and The Thing (original)
played last night at the Starlite Drive-In here in Atlanta - a friend
and I agreed that matte-painted sets have a presence and quality cgi
stuff doesn't touch.
VMacek
Lincoln Spector
> who came before *had* to work harder to get it on the screen meant they
> turned out a decent product. (Hmmm, that statement needs some work.)
works from the past we remember are the ones worth remembering. We're
therefore always comparing only the masterpieces of past ages with every
single thing--good and bad--out today. FP is a great movie, but a lot of the
sci fi of the fifties is laughable.
IMHO, the best visual in FB is one that's only hinted at: the Krell. We
never see them, but the shape of that door just churns my imagination.
btw, my daughter went through a period a few years ago (she was four or five
at the time) when she wanted to watch Forbidden Planet over and over again.
She loved it. And this was a girl who was (and still is) scared to watch
Wizard of Oz. I think she found Robbie comforting and reassuring. Come to
think of it, so do I.
Lincoln
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
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> btw, my daughter went through a period a few years ago (she was four or
five
> at the time) when she wanted to watch Forbidden Planet over and over
again.
> She loved it. And this was a girl who was (and still is) scared to watch
> Wizard of Oz. I think she found Robbie comforting and reassuring. Come to
> think of it, so do I.
Earl Holliman certainly found Robbie comforting, but one assumes is slightly
different way.
--
Frank in Seattle
___________
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
"I leave you now in radiant contentment"
-- "Whistling in the Dark"
JSTONE9352
>> Sure- old stuff is well, old, but with a little suspension, disbelief
>> can be held at bay.
>>
>> Movies as comfort food. There's an interesting concept.
>>
I saw "War of the Worlds" (1953?) a few
nights ago on some cable channel. I think
it still holds together fairly well, the special effects were pretty good for
their
day.
Neill Massello
> I though I read it was the same robot, given a starring role after his
> success in FB.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is "FB"?
JSTONE9352
>> I though I read it was the same robot, given a starring role after his
>> success in FB.
>
>Pardon my ignorance, but what is "FB"?
FB = the movie "Forbidden Planet".
Neill Massello
Vince Macek
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> [deletions]
>
> > btw, my daughter went through a period a few years ago (she was four or
> five
> > at the time) when she wanted to watch Forbidden Planet over and over
> again.
> > She loved it. And this was a girl who was (and still is) scared to watch
> > Wizard of Oz. I think she found Robbie comforting and reassuring. Come to
> > think of it, so do I.
>
> Earl Holliman certainly found Robbie comforting, but one assumes is slightly
> different way.
>
really...unnatural between those two. Then when Earl claimed he
couldn't get stiff in 5 minutes everyone lost it.
VMacek
Vince Macek
Richard Deacon's job - which involved sacking folks and replacing them
with machines. Kind of *ironic*, huh?
VMacek
Vince Macek
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> >
> >
> > Despite recent cgi developments I think sometimes the fact that those
> > who came before *had* to work harder to get it on the screen meant they
> > turned out a decent product. (Hmmm, that statement needs some work.)
> I think this is an illusion caused by what I cal artistic Darwinism. The
> works from the past we remember are the ones worth remembering. We're
> therefore always comparing only the masterpieces of past ages with every
> single thing--good and bad--out today. FP is a great movie, but a lot of the
> sci fi of the fifties is laughable.
But then there's War of the Worlds, When Worlds Collide, The Day the
Earth Stood Still, the Incredible Shrinking Man...and the schlock is
still enjoyable in its own...special way. That '90s stuff on the
Sci-Fi Channel is just plain dull.
>
> IMHO, the best visual in FB is one that's only hinted at: the Krell. We
> never see them, but the shape of that door just churns my imagination.
>
I myself typed in 'krell' in an image search but didn't find any
imaginative artwork. Lot of folks named Krell though.
VMacek
dancertm
wrote:
I still take out Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea Now and then, just
plain fun. I do need to count how many times a scene appears where
Walter Pidgeon enters a scene, or is in it, says a few lines, and then
quickly exits. It happens all through the film and gets rather funny
after a while.