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Kabi Khushi kabi gham - English subtitles except songs

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Habshi

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Dec 13, 2001, 5:46:00 PM12/13/01
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One is always a bit scared when seeing a movie which has been
hyped up like this in case it doesnt live up to expectations , but
this one does and at the end people were reluctant to leave the
theater .
Its a bit of Ramyana and Mohabbatein mixed and some will
complain that there is nothing new but then what matters is the
screenplay , and its one of those the whole family can watch and enjoy
and so its destined to be a megahit .
Takes about 45mins to get going but then gets hold of you and
since it is nearly four hours long its very good value indeed . Yash
Chopra is famous for making movies where the dress of the actresses is
on the short side -dtph , kkhh, mohabbatein , and its true in parts
here , but its cleverly done in a joking manner so that the
rickshawallah crowd is satisfied and the elderly women dont complain .
Dialog is good eg. 'If you see our family from far , you will
see a happy together one , but come close and you will glimpse a lot
of sorrows ' -wonderfull stuff . Another 'the anger of the elders is
part of their love ' and of course they never want to admit they are
at fault ! Whenever my mother is at fault in our arguements , which is
nearly all the time , she pulls rank 'Am I your mother are you
mine ?' . How can you argue with something like that ? So I get
annoyed at being left speechless and decide to bash Faddy on the net.
English subtitles work well , some complain that its
distracting and they spend most of their time reading them and miss
the action , but that is nonsense . What they should do , like me ,
is to ignore them and watch the movie and actually for difficult Urdu
shairi one can read them and learn some difficult words -for eg I
learnt that 'takkaluf' means 'difficulty' . The silliest thing is that
the difficult shairi is translated but the relatively straightforward
songs 'I love you , you love me ' stuff is not and why Indian movie
makers do this is a great mystery and really foolish because the songs
and dances are the best part of Bollywood movies which make them
watchable again and again . Non south asians will probably want to see
this one twice .
Half the movie is set in India and half in London but
probably filmed all in Uk . SRK , Amitabh and Hritihik are all good
but the females Kajol and Kareena are brilliant . Kajol as the girl
from Chandni Chowk who loves everything Indian and hates everything
western and watches in agony as her own son becomes more and more
English , calling her Mummy instead of Ma , is superb . Kareena who
describes herself as a 'wicked bitch' and twists the boys in the
college round her fingers is excellent too .
Background music , mostly Indian , is wondeful and evokes the
emotions so one cries a lot in this movie .Comic bits are great fun
too , and really every minute is enjoyable . It has been sold out for
the next few days .
What did the Afghans want from India ?- videos of the latest
films , they miss them so much even though they dont speak Hindi or
Urdu. These movies strike a chord . The best gift India can give them
, apart from the already donated one million tonnes of foodgrains-
enough for six months , is to build multiplexes in Kabul and Kandahar
and Mazar e Sharif .
This has been a superlative year for Indian Bollywood cinema
Listed below are In the order which I have enjoyed them , btw do not
read reviews on some sites where they think that a movie should be
reviewed by revealing the whole story in minute detail including the
ending!

Lajja -wonderful emotional movie
Gadhar - splendid Punjabi flavour
Jody No. 1 - Pooja Batra's song and dance , Govinda's comedy
Lagaan-selected for Oscar
Kyun Ki Main jhoot nahin bolta-Govinda again
Yaadein
Asoka
Dil Chahta hai
Kabi Khushi kabi gham
Yeh tera ghar , ye mera ghar
Chupa Rustum
Ehsaas
Indian
Raju Chacha
Zubeida
Kuch khati kuch mithi
Deewanapan

plus others . The average person in the west sees three movies
a year , and if Bollywood can get westerners to see just two of their
movies by putting subtitles on , they will earn a fortune .

Habshi

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Dec 13, 2001, 5:46:04 PM12/13/01
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Habshi

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Dec 13, 2001, 5:46:27 PM12/13/01
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Habshi

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Dec 13, 2001, 6:19:13 PM12/13/01
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Its good to see more and more westerners men and women in the
dances . Some even in the Indian one and they do look very good in
Indian dresses .

Habshi

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Dec 13, 2001, 6:21:43 PM12/13/01
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One of the dances takes place at the Pyramids and some salt
desert but the size of them has not been brought out clearly .

mamta.dhand

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Dec 14, 2001, 5:12:04 AM12/14/01
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"Habshi" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
news:id8i1u80jjrmrkepp...@4ax.com...
My favourite films of this year were, in order of preference:

1. Lagaan
2. Dil Chahta Hai
3. Zubeidaa
4. Chandni Bar
5. Yaadein
6. Gadar
7. Asoka


habshi

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Dec 14, 2001, 6:32:16 AM12/14/01
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Dont read the review of this movie on rediff.com
The moron has given a detailed summary of the whole movie . He should
be put in front of a firing squad for doing this to a new movie .

habshi

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Dec 14, 2001, 6:44:20 AM12/14/01
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correction -of course they shouldnt fire ! just give him a
fright not to do it again . Bollywood has enough problems with pirates
and reviewers who reveal the whole plot even before the movie is
released.

shampa shilpa shetty shan

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Dec 14, 2001, 7:51:15 AM12/14/01
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habshi wrote in message <3c19e2b9...@news.onetel.net.uk>...

> Dont read the review of this movie on rediff.com
>The moron has given a detailed summary of the whole movie . He should
>be put in front of a firing squad for doing this to a new movie .

didn't know you feel so passionately about the preserving of plot suspense!
lucky you, if you are someone that watches Bollywood movies and actually
considers the denouement to be ever in doubt. i thought the reason the
movies were three hours long was to make you look forward to the end so much
you dont care how it resolves!

p.s. - thread's crosspost disabled


habshi

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Dec 14, 2001, 10:38:59 AM12/14/01
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To reveal even the happy ending of a movie (not saying this
one has it ) is a form of theft from the producers who have worked so
hard and want people to see new movies in the theater .
Surprising to see you defend theft.

Niraj Agarwalla

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Dec 14, 2001, 6:25:46 PM12/14/01
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What are you complaining about? This is a Bollywood film, after all.
Everyone knows how it begins and how it ends.

--
Niraj Agarwalla - ni...@primushost.com - http://www.primushost.com/~niraj

Niraj Agarwalla

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Dec 14, 2001, 6:28:07 PM12/14/01
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, habshi wrote:

99 percent of all Bollywood films have happy endings. We all know what
happens in the end-- They all live happily ever after.

mamta.dhand

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Dec 15, 2001, 5:45:17 AM12/15/01
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Thanks for the warning as I don't like being told of what's going to happen
in a movie before watching it
"habshi" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
news:3c19e2b9...@news.onetel.net.uk...

Sydney Assbasket

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Dec 15, 2001, 6:47:28 PM12/15/01
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>Thanks for the warning as I don't like being told of what's going to happen
>in a movie before watching it

There are jerks who put spoilers in the subject heading of some movie
newsgroups, just to piss people off. Good thing few people ever do that.
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If love of money is the root of all evil, why do churches want it so badly?

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sunray

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Dec 17, 2001, 2:53:39 AM12/17/01
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K3G: A movie by gays, for gays.


Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gum is the most overhyped, overrated movie of the
year.

Khalid Mohamed of TOI gave it 5 stars in his sycophantic review. He
also gave the disastrous Ashoka a 5 star rating.

On the other hand, he gave the brilliant Lagaan a lukewarm review with
3 stars.

Obviously journalistic ethics are thrown to the winds when one his gay
lovers is directing the film and the other is acting in it.

drag...@aol.combination (Sydney Assbasket ) wrote in message news:<20011215184728...@mb-ct.aol.com>...

mamta.dhand

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Dec 17, 2001, 5:04:06 AM12/17/01
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>
> There are jerks who put spoilers in the subject heading of some movie
> newsgroups, just to piss people off. Good thing few people ever do that.
> ________________________________________________________________
>
Those who get so easily pissed off, must have a sorry life.


Habshi

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Dec 21, 2001, 6:07:38 PM12/21/01
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Not only is Kabhi khushi kabhi gham the highest new entry this
week, but it also had the highest screen average. So? Well it is
showing on only 41 screens and enters at number 3 this week. The
Indian import is the year's highest debuting foreign film beating the
likes of Crouching tiger and Amelie which all opened on around 250+
screens. Taking £473,355 from 41 screens gave it a screen average of
£11,545. Putting it into perspective, Bridget Jone's diary opened to a
screen average of £13,717 back in may. (Bridget to emphasis my point
due to it's success!)

http://www.atnzone.com/Boxoffice/uk.html



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K3G isn’t a hit, but it’s not a miss either
Poonam Saxena
(New Delhi, December 21)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


It was tipped to smash all box office records. But while Kabhi Khushi
Kabhie Gham (K3G) is bringing its distributors lots of khushi, there's
also some gham. First the good news. K3G, said to be India's most
expensive film, with a budget of Rs 35-plus crore, is poised to become
a big hit overseas. In India too, it is doing phenomenally well in
metros.
Now for the gham. Despite the hype, K3G will only be the No. 2 box
office hit of the year. (The number one slot still belongs to the
blockbuster Gadar - Ek Prem Katha). Also, director Karan Johar's
three-and-a-half hour family saga is slipping in smaller cities and
towns. Says trade analyst Komal Nahta, "In trade parlance it's an
overflow film." In other words, distributors stand to recover what
they paid for the rights to the film (Rs 3.5 crore) as well as the
cost of prints and publicity (another crore). In addition, there's the
"overflow", which is estimated at 25-40 per cent of the distributor's
total cost. In this case that's likely to amount to over a crore for
every distributor.

Manoj Desai, a prominent Mumbai exhibitor who is playing K3G in his
theatres, says he has had 42 straight housefull shows for two weeks.
"People said Karan's first film, Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, was a fluke," he
says. "But this film proves that isn't true. After 12 successive flops
over three months, this film has really bailed the industry out."

Despite the huge star cast and traditional family theme, the film is
not wowing the hinterland.

According to Nahta, "Johar's Kuch Kuch Hota Hai was from the heart,
K3G is from the brain. And Indian audiences like their films from the
heart." The length of the film (three-and-a-half hours), and its upper
class sensibility are some of the other reasons why analysts say it
isn't pulling in the crowds in smaller towns.

Director Karan Johar says he is delighted with the film's performance.
"I'm not bothered about figures," he says. "The important thing is
that my film has worked. I've made people cry a little, smile a
little." Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham.



Habshi

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