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Stop Telugu vs Hindi:the best movies are from Kerala

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shr...@imap1.asu.edu

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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While here in this ng, everyone is conveniently defending their
region when it comes to vulgarity et al, one fact is overlooked about good movies.
When i pointed out the cheapo stuff coming out, they suddenly became defensive and
started pulling good movies from the rack.I say when we are discussing about cheapos, why the heck
do people have to suddenly point at the good movies to defend their cause?Stick to vulgar
or discuss innovative movies in another thread.

And the telugu audience thinks that innovative stuff comes from their industry.
the only industry i know who has had a positive influence on the Hindi industry
as far as the success of their dubbed movies are concerned is the TAMIL industry.
From mid 85 onwards, we've had dubbed tamil movies which became hits and deservingly
so in Bollywood.APoorva Sahodarangal was dubbed as as Appu Raja and it became a hit
and fans certainly appreciated the innovativeness in the script and the special effects.
It was such a positive influence.And then we all know what happened to Roja and Bombay.
Tell me one dubbed Telugu movie which has become a hit in Hindi.Hairaan flopped miserably.

While all the above is true, nothing can deny the fact that when it comes
to innovativeness of a film script and some natural real acting(and not of the
Masala movie type), it is Kerala which is way ahead of all the other movie industries.
If anybody is not aware, i recommend Dashradam,Kireetam,Taalavattam all starring Mohanmlal.
I guarantee it 100% you will come out dazed wondering how can somebody from india
produce such superbly innovative movies.I say with all assurance that Mohanlal is thousand times
better than even Kamal Hasan when it comes to real acting.
He cerainly can't dance and all, but when it comes to natural acting he is way ahead.
So guys, before u push out movies from ur region in defense, think twice
if u are doing the correct thing, because the 80s movies from Kerala starring mostly Mohanlal
and sometimes Mamooty are way ahead in everything which defines good innovative cinnema.

I myself don't understand malayalam but still could
catch the amazing storylines in all these movies and their goodness.And here we have people who have seen
movies in just their own language and trying to defend those movies.How can a telugu guy know
the goodness about a certain Benglai movie if he hasn't been exposed to them?Answer me.

Shridhar.

r_kr...@hotmail.com

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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In article <5kba67$9...@news.asu.edu>, shr...@imap1.asu.edu says...

>While here in this ng, everyone is conveniently defending their
>region when it comes to vulgarity et al, one fact is overlooked about good movies.

..

Very true. Kerala films are by far the best in India. Miles ahead of
tamil and Hindi. Unfortunately non-kerala people associate Kerala films with
only vulgarity , thanks to I V Sasi and co.

I have not seen much Malayalam movies , but whatever I have seen I am highly
impressed by it. Mohan Lal and Mamooty are two of the finest actor in India
today.
The quality of Malayalam films can be judged by the fact that I rate "KaalaPani"
(MohanLal and Tabu) as one of the most mediorce malayalam films , though
very good by Hindi film standards.

Malayalam films have dispensed with stupid songs long time back and in most of
their films the story is good and with no diversion.

Probably the high literacy in Kerala has something to do with it.

jak...@hotmail.com

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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In article <5kba67$9...@news.asu.edu>, shr...@imap1.asu.edu says...
>
>
>
>While here in this ng, everyone is conveniently defending their
>region when it comes to vulgarity et al, one fact is overlooked about good movies.
>When i pointed out the cheapo stuff coming out, they suddenly became defensive and
>started pulling good movies from the rack.I say when we are discussing about cheapos, why the heck
>do people have to suddenly point at the good movies to defend their cause?Stick to vulgar
>or discuss innovative movies in another thread.
Discuss with you? I havent seen you discussing anything on this
newgroup. Have you responded to any post which showed that whatever you said
was wrong. You seem to be happy with following up posts which have atleast
a sentence which supports your cause. As far as I have seen people were
defending the statement that you made in your first post which said
'telugu remakes spoilt hindi films of late' and your second
post which basically said that nothing but crap comes out of 'telugu
land'. So theres nothing wrong in listing films which were good in
the hope of opening your eyes (I dont think they can but no harm
in trying )

>
>And the telugu audience thinks that innovative stuff comes from their industry.
>the only industry i know who has had a positive influence on the Hindi industry
>as far as the success of their dubbed movies are concerned is the TAMIL industry.
>From mid 85 onwards, we've had dubbed tamil movies which became hits and deservingly
>so in Bollywood.APoorva Sahodarangal was dubbed as as Appu Raja and it became a hit
>and fans certainly appreciated the innovativeness in the script and the special effects.
>It was such a positive influence.And then we all know what happened to Roja and Bombay.
>Tell me one dubbed Telugu movie which has become a hit in Hindi.Hairaan flopped miserably.

huh! Look who is discussing things unrelated to the thread. I thought we were
discussing remakes. I can list remake in case you want to know. Yes there
were no dubbed telugu movies that I remeber that were big hits. So
what. Nobody except you claimed that Telugu movies had a influence on
Hindi films


>
>While all the above is true, nothing can deny the fact that when it comes
>to innovativeness of a film script and some natural real acting(and not of the
>Masala movie type), it is Kerala which is way ahead of all the other movie industries.
>If anybody is not aware, i recommend Dashradam,Kireetam,Taalavattam all starring Mohanmlal.
>I guarantee it 100% you will come out dazed wondering how can somebody from india
>produce such superbly innovative movies.I say with all assurance that Mohanlal is thousand times
>better than even Kamal Hasan when it comes to real acting.
>He cerainly can't dance and all, but when it comes to natural acting he is way ahead.
>So guys, before u push out movies from ur region in defense, think twice
>if u are doing the correct thing, because the 80s movies from Kerala starring mostly Mohanlal
>and sometimes Mamooty are way ahead in everything which defines good innovative cinnema.
>
>I myself don't understand malayalam but still could
>catch the amazing storylines in all these movies and their goodness.And here we have people who have seen
>movies in just their own language and trying to defend those movies.How can a telugu guy know
>the goodness about a certain Benglai movie if he hasn't been exposed to them?Answer me.

I will have to agree with you. Most of the good movies in the 80s came
from malayalam and the alternate stream of hindi films. The only problem is
that they havent made enough effort to appeal to the mainstream public.
After all what good is a great movie if people dont watch it.


>
>Shridhar.
>
>

shr...@imap1.asu.edu

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May 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/2/97
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jak...@hotmail.com wrote:

: I will have to agree with you. Most of the good movies in the 80s came


: from malayalam and the alternate stream of hindi films. The only problem is
: that they havent made enough effort to appeal to the mainstream public.
: After all what good is a great movie if people dont watch it.


Well, about malayalam movies, they are indeed mainstream.Thats what i want to stress here.
the malayalam movies i am referring to are not those extreme atrsy types
where u see a guy making any sort of movement once in 10 minutes, but they are
a la English movies (without action) where there are a whole lot of meaningful dialogues
and background music enough to make the audience eager for the next move.
As ravi krishna points out in a follow up, it is indeed the High literacy rate of kerala which
is responsible for the audience having accepted these movies.

And about the alternate Hindi films, if the selected audience watches it and feels contented, it is their
big gain and they are happy and satisfied; if u don't watch these movies, the i think
it is ur Loss.

Shridhar.


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