GHATAK, RAJA HINDUSTANI, SAPOOT
DISCODANCER
SAPOOT WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNIL SHETTY AND AKSHAY KUMAR. GHATAK
WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNNY DEOL AND GUEST APPEARANCE BY BIG B. RAJA
HINDUSTANI WILL BE FLOP BECAUSE OF AAMIR KHAN.
d...@acsu.buffalo.edu
I think other wise . Raja Hindustani will be a hit Only because of Aamir.
As concerns sapoot, I hv always considered Shetty and Akshay to be junk
actors. Who would want to watch them when Aamir & Shahrukh are going
strong ? As for Ghatak , I dont think Big B would make any difference. It
will hv to be Sunnys performance for the movie to click.
Dinesh
Mili
In article <55m3mt$2...@jedi.erin.utoronto.ca> DISCODANCER <Guess...@prodigy.com> writes:
>From: DISCODANCER <Guess...@prodigy.com>
>Subject: GHATAK, RAJA HINDUSTANI, SAPOOT
>Date: 5 Nov 1996 01:02:21 GMT
> RAJA
>HINDUSTANI WILL BE FLOP BECAUSE OF AAMIR KHAN.
or so u think....
Arshad Momin
DISCODANCER (Guess...@prodigy.com) wrote:
: SAPOOT WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNIL SHETTY AND AKSHAY KUMAR. GHATAK
: WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNNY DEOL AND GUEST APPEARANCE BY BIG B. RAJA
: HINDUSTANI WILL BE FLOP BECAUSE OF AAMIR KHAN.
talk is cheap, wait and see
Peeyush Ranjan
: >
: > WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNNY DEOL AND GUEST APPEARANCE BY BIG B. RAJA
: > HINDUSTANI WILL BE FLOP BECAUSE OF AAMIR KHAN.
Lets see.
I hadnt even heard of Sapoot and Ghatak till your post.
In any case, I have nothing against Sunil Shetty of Akshay Kumar.. but neither
compares to Aamir Khan.
-Peeyush
tony khera
DISCODANCER <Guess...@prodigy.com> wrote:
>
>
> SAPOOT WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNIL SHETTY AND AKSHAY KUMAR. GHATAK
> WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNNY DEOL AND GUEST APPEARANCE BY BIG B. RAJA
> HINDUSTANI WILL BE FLOP BECAUSE OF AAMIR KHAN.
>
theatre full of Akshay and Sunil fans thought, along with myself, the
the film was typical, boring at times, VERY predictable, and most were
saying that "Should have waited a month for it to be released on VDO!"
An obvious flop, or at least it should be!!
"Ghatak" is a very powerful film (saw the 25min preview) and is full
of powerpacked dialogues made for Sunny Deol!! Menakshi seems to have
a minimal rol ein the film, but is very good despite this. Mamta is
in the same role (I assume) as Madhoo was in "Diljale".
NOW, FOR "RAJA HINDUSTANI!!", it may be a hit a flop, BUT NOT BECAUSE
OF THE GREAT AAMIR KHAN!!!!!!! (and yes I admit to being a FAN of his!!)
I have done this before, and noone bothered to argue or even respond,
to me proving my point: I challenge anyone to give me an example of
a good or bad film *ing Aamir in which Aamir had a poor performance!
Try giving ONE example!!! ONE!!! My point is despite the fact that
he has worked in flop films (WHO HASN'T?!?), he always gives 100%
effort in not portraying but becoming a character!! He is one of the
greatest ACTORS (not performer) OF ALL TIME!! And, in my humble opinion,
nobody works harder than him!! (PS-HE DESERVED BEST ACTOR FOR RANGEELA!)
"THE BOLLYWOOD HITMAN!!!"
TONY KHERA!!
Swami Anantha
tony khera wrote:
>
> I have done this before, and noone bothered to argue or even respond,
> to me proving my point: I challenge anyone to give me an example of
> a good or bad film *ing Aamir in which Aamir had a poor performance!
> Try giving ONE example!!! ONE!!! My point is despite the fact that
> he has worked in flop films (WHO HASN'T?!?), he always gives 100%
> effort in not portraying but becoming a character!! He is one of the
> greatest ACTORS (not performer) OF ALL TIME!! And, in my humble opinion,
> nobody works harder than him!! (PS-HE DESERVED BEST ACTOR FOR RANGEELA!)
>
> "THE BOLLYWOOD HITMAN!!!"
> TONY KHERA!!
Well said !!! I agree that he deserved the best actor for Rangeela, and to no
small extent for Dil Hain Ki Manta Nahin.
Swami.
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Peeyush Ranjan
tony khera wrote:
> I have done this before, and noone bothered to argue or even respond,
> to me proving my point: I challenge anyone to give me an example of
> a good or bad film *ing Aamir in which Aamir had a poor performance!
> Try giving ONE example!!! ONE!!! My point is despite the fact that
> he has worked in flop films (WHO HASN'T?!?), he always gives 100%
> effort in not portraying but becoming a character!! He is one of the
> greatest ACTORS (not performer) OF ALL TIME!! And, in my humble
Finally someone got my point!!!!!
-Peeyush
Avinash Ghirnikar
>>NOW, FOR "RAJA HINDUSTANI!!", it may be a hit a flop, BUT NOT BECAUSE
>>OF THE GREAT AAMIR KHAN!!!!!!! (and yes I admit to being a FAN of his!!)
>>I have done this before, and noone bothered to argue or even respond,
>>to me proving my point: I challenge anyone to give me an example of
>>a good or bad film *ing Aamir in which Aamir had a poor performance!
>>Try giving ONE example!!! ONE!!! My point is despite the fact that
>>he has worked in flop films (WHO HASN'T?!?), he always gives 100%
>>effort in not portraying but becoming a character!! He is one of the
>>greatest ACTORS (not performer) OF ALL TIME!! And, in my humble opinion,
>>nobody works harder than him!! (PS-HE DESERVED BEST ACTOR FOR RANGEELA!)
well said. the way aamir can play multidimensional characters who are not
necessarily *good*/*bad* but have shades of gray like most humans is
phenomenal. from his pranky schoolboy in JJWS, to the responsible/loving
uncle in HHRPK, to the somewhat self-absorbed musician in "AHAT"; not to
forget the ultimate portrayal of a "tapori" in rangeela (frankly having seen
and observed such guys in mumbai for years, i might venture to even say that it
outdistances anything that amitabh did in this genre including AAA or
khuddar). none of these characters were folks whose parents were killed,
or sister raped etc., etc., or had some *dynamite lines* written for them,
the way so many of the hackneyed "heroes/anti-heroes" have in movies. they
were just everyday folks who said everyday things and whom you might meet
in regular social settings (in all fairness, munna did have some *killer*
lines). the coloring that he brought to these characters
was so believable and tangible. unfortunately, i haven't seen most of his
movies and maybe one of these days when i have the time i will...
really looking forward to raja hindustani. i am a little circumspect
because i read in one of anand tiwari's posts that dharmesh darshan is a
poor director. what have been some of his other movies?
on SRK, another quote from him on his *acting* abilities from the nov filmfare
magazine: "i am guilty of hamming (apologies in advance for paraphrasing)"
(while justifying that overacting is just relative!). so much for the
FF award winner! he sure is much more adept at accepting his limitations
than his fans.
avinash
Anand Tiwari
In article <algE0s...@netcom.com>, a...@netcom.com says...
Hi Avinash,
Suneel and Dharmesh Darshan first produced a film called
"Inteqaam" (starring Sunny, Anil Kapoor, Kimi Katkar and Meenakshi). The
film was directed AFAIR by Raj Kumar Kohli. After that Dharmesh took on
direction himself and directed a video film "Yeh aag kab bujhegi" which
had Aruna Irani as the wronged woman who becomes the avenging angel. Next
Dharmesh directed "Lootere" which was moderately successful. It had Naseer,
Sunny, Chunky and Juhi. Juhi credits Dharmesh with having brought out her
sensuality on screen with this film. The film has a promising start but
flounders mid way because of inept direction. Naseer as "Sikander" also
fails to deliver the impact which he his capable of. The film has some
good songs like "Prem samundar, man ke andar" which make the film
barely passable.
The statement you refer to was written by me when i compared Sanjay leela
Bhansali (director-Khamoshi and song director-1942 ALS) in some context.
Dharmesh pales iin compares to Bhansali on the basis of his released work.
However Raja Hindustani shall definitely be worth a watch though i have this
feeling that Dharmesh shall goof up the screenpaly and direction of the film.
In my opinion he lacks the primary requirement of a director which is
script sense (going by "Lootere"). However who knows that he has matured
with time and experience!
regards
Anand
Mili
In article <3288D8...@cs.purdue.edu> Peeyush Ranjan <p...@cs.purdue.edu> writes:
>From: Peeyush Ranjan <p...@cs.purdue.edu>
>Subject: Re: GHATAK, RAJA HINDUSTANI, SAPOOT
>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:06:33 -0500
>tony khera wrote:
>> I have done this before, and noone bothered to argue or even respond,
>> to me proving my point: I challenge anyone to give me an example of
>> a good or bad film *ing Aamir in which Aamir had a poor performance!
>> Try giving ONE example!!! ONE!!! My point is despite the fact that
>> he has worked in flop films (WHO HASN'T?!?), he always gives 100%
>> effort in not portraying but becoming a character!! He is one of the
>> greatest ACTORS (not performer) OF ALL TIME!! And, in my humble
>Finally someone got my point!!!!!
>-Peeyush
**no one bothered to argue it because we all know u are right:)
Mili
tony khera
POINT MADE!!!!
THANKS GUYS...and U 2 MILI!!!!
Mili
In article <56a7aj$p...@aphex.direct.ca> tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca> writes:
>From: tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca>
>Subject: Re: GHATAK, RAJA HINDUSTANI, SAPOOT
>DISCODANCER <Guess...@prodigy.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> SAPOOT WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNIL SHETTY AND AKSHAY KUMAR. GHATAK
>> WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNNY DEOL AND GUEST APPEARANCE BY BIG B. RAJA
>> HINDUSTANI WILL BE FLOP BECAUSE OF AAMIR KHAN.
>>
>EXCUSE ME!!!!! First of all I saw Sapoot on Sunday Night, and the whole
>theatre full of Akshay and Sunil fans thought, along with myself, the
>the film was typical, boring at times, VERY predictable, and most were
>saying that "Should have waited a month for it to be released on VDO!"
>An obvious flop, or at least it should be!!
>yeah a couple of my friends saw Sapoot last week and they said it
sucks....big time.
WARNING PJ: SUNIL SHETTY'S ACTING IS THE BEST IN SAPOOT. HIS DIALOGUE DELIVERY
IS PAR EXCELLENCE...!!!
WHY?!
BECAUSE HE PLAYS THE ROLE OF A DUMB MAN.
Mili
In article <56jn08$5...@aphex.direct.ca> tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca> writes:
>From: tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca>
>Subject: Re: GHATAK, RAJA HINDUSTANI, SAPOOT
>Mi...@rangeela.net (Mili) wrote:
>>
>> In article <3288D8...@cs.purdue.edu> Peeyush Ranjan <p...@cs.purdue.edu> writes:
>> >From: Peeyush Ranjan <p...@cs.purdue.edu>
>> >Subject: Re: GHATAK, RAJA HINDUSTANI, SAPOOT
>> >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:06:33 -0500
>>
>> >tony khera wrote:
>>
>> >> I have done this before, and noone bothered to argue or even respond,
>> >> to me proving my point: I challenge anyone to give me an example of
>> >> a good or bad film *ing Aamir in which Aamir had a poor performance!
>> >> Try giving ONE example!!! ONE!!! My point is despite the fact that
>> >> he has worked in flop films (WHO HASN'T?!?), he always gives 100%
>> >> effort in not portraying but becoming a character!! He is one of the
>> >> greatest ACTORS (not performer) OF ALL TIME!! And, in my humble
>>
>> >Finally someone got my point!!!!!
>>
>> >-Peeyush
>>
>> **no one bothered to argue it because we all know u are right:)
>>
>> Mili
> POINT MADE!!!!
> THANKS GUYS...and U 2 MILI!!!!
no probs. tony:)...btw, how is Raja hindustani faring in bbay and vancouver,
anybody?
Khalnayak ... The Bad Boyee
In article <56a7aj$p...@aphex.direct.ca>, tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca> writes:
> DISCODANCER <Guess...@prodigy.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> SAPOOT WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNIL SHETTY AND AKSHAY KUMAR. GHATAK
>> WILL BE HIT BECAUSE OF SUNNY DEOL AND GUEST APPEARANCE BY BIG B. RAJA
>> HINDUSTANI WILL BE FLOP BECAUSE OF AAMIR KHAN.
>>
> EXCUSE ME!!!!! First of all I saw Sapoot on Sunday Night, and the whole
> theatre full of Akshay and Sunil fans thought, along with myself, the
> the film was typical, boring at times, VERY predictable, and most were
> saying that "Should have waited a month for it to be released on VDO!"
> An obvious flop, or at least it should be!!
>
> of powerpacked dialogues made for Sunny Deol!! Menakshi seems to have
> a minimal rol ein the film, but is very good despite this. Mamta is
> in the same role (I assume) as Madhoo was in "Diljale".
>
> OF THE GREAT AAMIR KHAN!!!!!!! (and yes I admit to being a FAN of his!!)
>
> to me proving my point: I challenge anyone to give me an example of
> a good or bad film *ing Aamir in which Aamir had a poor performance!
> Try giving ONE example!!! ONE!!! My point is despite the fact that
> he has worked in flop films (WHO HASN'T?!?), he always gives 100%
> effort in not portraying but becoming a character!! He is one of the
> nobody works harder than him!! (PS-HE DESERVED BEST ACTOR FOR RANGEELA!)
>
> TONY KHERA!!
I just wanna add a few words to the Bollywood Hitman's statements....
Sir I agree with your judgements about Amir (yes .... he does give his best in
all movies ) BUT you know what .... all the Macho roles doesn't suites him or
let me put it this way that it does not really matches him ..... I really don't
know why but I have seen many girls saying this ..... that Amir is more
admirable in comedy roles (Andaaz Apna Apna)....
Acutually I also feel that .... when (in Raja Hindustani)
he was trying to show how he felt when the drunkards were passing remarks to
Karishma and he goes to fight 'em ..... he really didn't have that kind of
performance in the action scene ..... as a kid was just fighting around.
tony khera
Good point. He is no Action star, that's why he just kept smashing
bottles over everyones head in the one fight scene o=f Raja Hindustani.
And tough he was good in Baazi, he was also a bit out of place.
Now, can we get off this topic, I'm getting quite bored of debating
over who's better, I just want to watch films that are good and full of
great performances. Heck, I'll even watch Chaahat again...:->
HITMAN!
tony khera
Mi...@rangeela.net (Mili) wrote:
> no probs. tony:)...btw, how is Raja hindustani faring in bbay
> and vancouver, anybody?
All acounts say it is a hit. Though ppl are not loving it the
way they did a Rangeela, DDLJ, Maine Pyar Kiy, HAHK, or others, they
are liking it alot. In Vanouver ppl are already calling it a big hit,
but not as big as Khamoshi was here (as there are still lots of Salman
fans around here). It will be one of the Top Ten films of the year
World Wide, but not one of the Top 5. Good, not Great is what the
audiences seem to say about it. Perhaps that is accurate as I have seen
it and personally loved it, but I liked JEET, HINDUSTANI and KHAMOSHI
better. Perhaps I was even more impressed by Khiladion Ka Khiladi,
the best All-Out Hindi Action Film Ever, and a follower of the Hollywood
way of making Action films. <Sapoot is also an All Out Action film>.
Recently I recevied a report from Mumbai on the Predicted nominees
for the Film Fare Awards.
Sunny name is atop the list of contenders for Best Actor (FF). Other
Nominees include Nana for Khamoshi, Aamir for Raja Hindustani, and
SRK for Chaahat. I've heard maybe Govinda for SCS too, but I doubt it.
Best Actress Nominees: "quoted from the report..."
"Manisha is the one to look for for her brilliant work in the
film Khamoshi: The Musical..." It also mention Karishma 2x, once for
Jeet and once for Raja Hindustani, predicitng she'll get one nomination
for Raja Hindstani only. Juhi for Daraar, Madhuri for Prem Granth,
about which it says..."Madhuri has been the least talked about actress
of 1996, but that does not mean she is forgotten. Her power to capture
the tears of the audience is par excellence in her strong and endearing
work for the film Prem Granth. ...Some critics still say they pick her to
win, she was that good..." So don't count her out. Sri Devi for Army and
Manisha for AgniSakshi were the other nominations, but it mentioned
Tabu Naaz for Maachis. This looks like the toughest category to narrow down.
There was a short list of other memorable performances for this year,
which surprisingly included Ayesha Julka for Masoon. WHAT?!?
The Best Category for Acting was Best Villian!! Here are
the Top Six Picks from the Report for Nomination:
Nana Patekar for Agni Sakshi.
Rekha for Khiladion Ka Khiladi.
Danny for Ghatak.
Naseerudin Shah for Chaahat.
Arbaaz Khan for Daraar.
Milind Gunaji for Fareb.
The last two were also included for Most Sensational Debut (Male)
along with: Indra Kumar for Khiladion Ka Khiladi (the long shot)
Abhishek Kapoor for Uff Yeh Mohabhatt (yet to be released)
Faraz Khan for Fareb
and the predicted winner, Chadrachur Singh for Maachis.
Best Supporting Actor Nominations:
Salman Khan for Khamoshi (he's the predicted winner)
Jackie Shroff for Agni Sakshi
Atul AgniHotri for Bamai Ka Babu (I think they meant Sambandh,
because wasn't BKB last year???)
Deepak Tijori for Bal Bramhachari
Parmeet Sethi for Diljale
and Mukul Dev for Dastak (releasing Nov. 29 World Wide)
Best Supporting Actress:
Madhoo for Diljale
Tabu Naaz for Jeet
Seema Biswas for Khamoshi
Navneet Nsihan for Raja Hindustani (????)
I never looked to hard at this section as it didn't bother
picking a winner. looks really sad here!
Most Sensational Debut (Female)
Sadika for Salma Pe Dil Aageya (set to release soon, though it may go
into the 1997 Awards...)
Sushmita Sen for Dastak (predicts her to win over Suman cuz of
popularity, talks about how Twinkle won last year for the same reason)
Suman Ranganthan for Fareb (my pick to win)
Ranee for Raja Ki Aayegi Baraat
Mentions that they won't announce the nominations for this one.
The big debate this year is over the film Hindustani, a dubbed film
which has already been recognized by FF in the South Awards for the
Orginal version Indian (Kamal Hassan won his 16th Best Actor for it!)
It looks like this film will be dismissed altogether from these Awards.
It also has a big article on the FilmYear 1997. Koila, Gupt, Ishq,
Mela, Tarazu, Border, and of course the HUGE ABY BABY RETURN in
MRITYUDAATA are the big films to look for. The war btwn Sushmita Sen
and Ash Rai will go all out in terms of Movies in 1997. Ash Rai is
working on a big budget film, JEANS, which will be the first Indian Film
shot in Hollywood!! Sunny Deol, should he win in 1996, will be huge in 1997
for his much awaited project, The Epic of Alamgir. The much touted actress
Preita Zinta will come out from behind the curtain and make her debut in 1997.
The Report, courtesy of Kiran Joglekhar of Mumbai, is over 24 pages
and is packed with lots of info for the Awards 96, the Preview of 97,
and tonns of Review 1996. Any questions about it can be sent to
me, Bollywood Hitman Tony, at: tkh...@direct.ca
LATER!!
HITMAN!
Mili
In article <57l16a$a...@aphex.direct.ca> tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca> writes:
>From: tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca>
>Date: 28 Nov 1996 21:45:46 GMT
>Mi...@rangeela.net (Mili) wrote:
>> no probs. tony:)...btw, how is Raja hindustani faring in bbay
>> and vancouver, anybody?
>
>
> The Best Category for Acting was Best Villian!! Here are
>the Top Six Picks from the Report for Nomination:
>Nana Patekar for Agni Sakshi.
>Rekha for Khiladion Ka Khiladi.
>Danny for Ghatak.
>Naseerudin Shah for Chaahat.
>Arbaaz Khan for Daraar.
>Milind Gunaji for Fareb.
>**Milind Gunaji is one of the best looking villains**
Peeyush Ranjan
tony khera (tkh...@direct.ca) wrote:
: over who's better, I just want to watch films that are good and full of
: great performances. Heck, I'll even watch Chaahat again...:->
Believe it or not, I watched Chahat twice (I was in India when it was released)
.. once of course was the houseful time.. the second time though I had to leave
the theatre when SRK started begging on the platform.. it was so repulsive.. the
movie before that was likeable.
-Peeyush
Peeyush Ranjan
Mili (Mi...@rangeela.net) wrote:
: > The Best Category for Acting was Best Villian!! Here are
: >the Top Six Picks from the Report for Nomination:
: >Nana Patekar for Agni Sakshi.
: >Rekha for Khiladion Ka Khiladi.
: >Danny for Ghatak.
: >Naseerudin Shah for Chaahat.
: >Arbaaz Khan for Daraar.
: >Milind Gunaji for Fareb.
: >**Milind Gunaji is one of the best looking villains**
And he acted well too! I think Arbaaz Khan should be kicked out.. I am surprised
they dont have Aashish Vidyarthi here.. I was really impressed with that guy.
-Peeyush
ANWAR SADAT
In article <57mkos$a...@news.inforamp.net>, Mili <Mi...@rangeela.net> wrote:
>In article <57l16a$a...@aphex.direct.ca> tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca> writes:
>>From: tony khera <tkh...@direct.ca>
>>Subject: RAJA HINDUSTANI + AWARDS REPORT!!
>>Date: 28 Nov 1996 21:45:46 GMT
>
>
>>> no probs. tony:)...btw, how is Raja hindustani faring in bbay
>>> and vancouver, anybody?
>
>>the Top Six Picks from the Report for Nomination:
>>Nana Patekar for Agni Sakshi.
>>Rekha for Khiladion Ka Khiladi.
>>Danny for Ghatak.
>>Naseerudin Shah for Chaahat.
>>Arbaaz Khan for Daraar.
>>Milind Gunaji for Fareb.
>
Milind Gunaji is just as nasty as any other villian. The only reason
some girl may think he's good lookin is 'cause he sings a hit song in
Fareb and has got a couple of magazine shots. Otherwise, he's just as
nasty as anyone else. He's also a poor actor.
sid...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
hi,
you hae left out maachis out of your count totally.
i think chandrachur, tabu were awesome.
comments?
siddharth
Mili
In article <1996Nov3...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu> sid...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>From: sid...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
>Subject: Re: RAJA HINDUSTANI + AWARDS REPORT!! - maachis
>Date: 30 Nov 96 13:20:19 CST
>hi,
>comments?
>siddharth
when was maachis released? and is it an art movie or commercial movie? and
that guy chandrachur is also starring in an ABCL production 'Tere mere sapne."
Any idea when that is coming out?
mili
Kal
>>
>>>**Milind Gunaji is one of the best looking villains**
> Milind Gunaji is just as nasty as any other villian. The only reason
>some girl may think he's good lookin is 'cause he sings a hit song in
>Fareb and has got a couple of magazine shots. Otherwise, he's just as
>nasty as anyone else. He's also a poor actor.
How do u work that out..??
I think he played the role of a psycho excellently..
Kal