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WHO DESERVES "BEST ACTOR" SO FAR?

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Sadat Anwar

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Oct 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/26/96
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I don't mean to initiate this inevitable debate prematurely, but I'm
getting curious to know who RAMLIERS think most deserves the 1996 best
actor award SO FAR (based on the movies released up till now). I'm of
the opinion that Nana Patekar is the most deserving of the award, but for
some reason, I don't think he's going to end up with a Filmfare best
actor award. Maybe a nomination for best actor, maybe even a Critic's
Choice, possibly even a National award, but I don't think he'll get the
Filmfare best actor. By the way, in case you were wondering, I'm
referring to Nana's performance in KHAMOSHI, not AGNISAKSHI. I think
Nana totally brought the house down in KHAMOSHI! It was HIS movie from
start to finish!

Anyways, 1996 is not over yet, so this is just my tentative opinion.
It's possible that someone could outdo him, but I HIGHLY doubt it. I
don't think anyone else this year has even come close to Nana's superb
performance in KHAMOSHI and, realistically speaking, I don't think anyone
else this year will be a match for him. I don't think we'll see any more
great acting performances this year, with a few possible exceptions. For
one, if Amitabh's film releases, then his performance will definitely be
something to look out for. But the last I heard, the film's release has
been delayed until early next year (Is this true?) Second, if KOYLA
releases, then I think we'll see an awesome performance from Shah Rukh
and he could be a contender for best actor again. Finally, I think Aamir
will do a good job in RAJA HINDUSTANI, but whether he'll get a nomination
or not will depend on the film's success.

And just for a quick note on the best actress of the year *so far*, I
think the two best female performances have come from Madhuri Dixit for
PREM GRANTH and Manisha Koreila for KHAMOSHI. In this case, I'm
personally leaning in Madhuri's favour, but I won't say that Manisha is
not a match for her. Her performance in KHAMOSHI was real good. It will
be a close match. I want Madhuri to win, but I think Manisha will get it
instead... possibly even for AGNISAKSHI, although I didn't see anything
special about her performance in that film.

But once again, as far as the best actor goes, I feel VERY STRONGLY in
Nana's favour this year. Even if Amitabh's film or SRK's KOYLA release
on time and are superhits, I'm pretty certain that I will STILL be
supporting Nana.


Although SRK is still my favourite out of the new breed of actors....

*** I will stand behind Nana's performance in KHAMOSHI this year as I
stood behind SRK's performance in DDLJ last year!!! ***


What are other RAMLIERS' comments on this topic?

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SPECIAL NOTE TO ASHOK SINGH: I apologize for ripping off your trademark
"capitalized film-title" style. I'm doing it to improve the readability
of my articles (ie. the convenience of fellow RAMLIERS). I'm giving
honourable mention to you now, so I hope you won't mind. :)

Anand Tiwari

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In article <54s56o$p...@jedi.erin.utoronto.ca>, Sadat says...
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Hi Sadat,
Let me answer the topic you address to first and then i shall
comment on some other things. the Best actor and actress FF shall be won by
Nana and Manisha resp for Khamoshi. Reason simple -: FF is no academy. It
is a magazine and for a mag to sell the cover should be attractive and
should be a change from last years. So Madhuri loses out. She is not hot
careerwise right now. the nana-manisha team is successful and has an off screen
romance to support the on screen charisma.

Also how much credibility you give to FF awards? Probably a lot because
SRK wins it a lot of times. But i shall give you one example
1992 The nominees were Anil Kapoor (Beta) and Aamir Khan (Jo Jeeta Wohi
Sikandar) winner: Anil Kapoor! for his marvellous (??????) perfomance in
Beta a film dominated by madhuri totally to the extent that people and
the critics felt it should have been labeled "Beti" On the other hand even
you shall agree that JJWS had Aamir touching rarified heights. But FF thinks
Anil was more deserving (i think he did not even deserve nomination for
Beta). The answer is simple: the 1992 award was "bought" presumably by
Boney kapoor.

The fact is FF patronizes only some actors. When Amitabh won for Hum i
was very happy but deep down i felt the guilt because Aamir once
again was denied for DHKMN. If Sunny Deol can beat Amitabh for the best actor
FF (for Agneepath) then why not Aamir who potrayed Raghu Jaitley in a very
touching fashion. Amitabh was not awarded for Aakhree Raasta in which he
brought out the difference in the father-son potrayal so beautifully.He was
neglected for Agneepath (which fetched him the national award) but rewarded
for Hum! a film which to the say the least had a bad script thanks to
Mukul Anand.

SRK the current heartthrob of FF picks up awards left, right and centre.
I have serious reservations about the DDLJ award. If acting is any standard
to go by then Aamir lived the role of Munna in the worse of the two films
Rangeela. DDLJ beats rangeela as a film but as far as perfomances go i have
serious reservations. Again i am giving contemporary examples to make it
more relevant. Earlier Amitabh missed the trophy for "Deewaar", Sunil Dutt
missed it for "Milan" (FF found Dilip Kumar's loud and crass potrayal in
Ram aur Shyam better) to name a few examples.

If FF really wants to reward the best actor this year then the award
should go to Rajit Kapoor for his soul stirring depiction of Gandhiji
in Shyam Benegal's "the making of the Mahatma". He has already won the
national award and you should see the film to see the honesty in his
potrayal of Mahatma. But undoubtedly Nana and his sign language in Khamoshi
or Kamal hasan's Senapati and Latka diya hai routine are much more deserving
in the eyes of FF. Surely Ashish Vidyarthi did not deserve the best villain
award in Nihalini's Drohkaal and Anupam Kher deserves an award every year
not because his wife Kiran Kher is one of the organizers of the show
but because he is in the league of Bimal Roy (11 awards) and Raj Kapoor
(10 awards). Surely Madhumati(9 awards) is inferior to DDLJ (11 awards).
Also Guide(7 awards) and Deewaar (7 awards) are worse than 1942 ALS (9 awards)
and DDLJ (11 awards). Today FF awards are given to people like Saif Khan,
Raveena Tandon, Bobby Deol (He looks like an italian yaar!) for best
debutante (as if their debut was better than Amjad Khan's in "Sholay"
who was not awarded). Even then nobody among the females even though most
get one award free has been able to touch the perfomance standards of yesterday
heroines. It is heartening to note that Nutan ji (Seema, Sujata, Bandini,
Main Tulsi tere aangan ki, saajan bina suhagan and OUTSTANDING PERFOMANCE
award for Meri Jung) is at the top of the list among females with 6 awards
for 6 really memorable perfomances. Are the perfomances for which awards
are given today outstanding?

Has Nana Patekar done a better job than Sanjeev Kumar (who played a deaf
and dumb in Koshish) certainly not. But there is no biz like showbiz and the
market wants Nana so Nana it shall be. Is Manisha anywhere near Waheeda rehman
in Guide (both characters discover themselves as the film progresses) the
answer is an overwhelming NO. But in the end these people tend up garnering
more awards than anybody ever has. So where is he credibility of FF awards
in which Kumar Sanu broke Kishore Kumar and Mohammed rafi's records by
getting the award 5 times in a row. Don't tell me that there was no competition.
Are Suresh wadkar, Udit Narayan and A.Hariharan dead? No for FF they do not
exsist.

The lesser said about the recent FF awards and the awardees the
better. Perhaps FF wants us to believe that Anil Kapoor, SRK are of Dilip
Kumar, Amitabh Bachchan, Sanjeev Kumar standards and Madhuri, Manisha,
Mamta (why not?) stand beside or above Meena Kumari, Nutan and Nargis
or perhaps Mahesh Bhatt, David Dhawan, Aditya and yash Chopra, Subhash Ghai
(he is the showman!) are better than Bimal Roy, Guru Dutt, Hrishikesh
Mukherjee, Raj Khosla and Vijay Anand.

regards
Anand

Mili

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In article <54s56o$p...@jedi.erin.utoronto.ca> Sadat Anwar <sadat...@utoronto.ca> writes:
>From: Sadat Anwar <sadat...@utoronto.ca>
>Subject: WHO DESERVES "BEST ACTOR" SO FAR?
>Date: 26 Oct 1996 04:48:24 GMT

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>Although SRK is still my favourite out of the new breed of actors....

>*** I will stand behind Nana's performance in KHAMOSHI this year as I
>stood behind SRK's performance in DDLJ last year!!! ***


> What are other RAMLIERS' comments on this topic?

>Although I am sure Aamir will do an awesome job in RH just as in Rangeela, I
think Nanna's perfromance in Agnisakshi was explosive

Pankaj Kakkar

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Oct 27, 1996, 2:00:00 AM10/27/96
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Hi guys

Pardon me for my ignorance if I am wrong, but aren't the FF awards given
out after a massive reader survey? And isn't this survey given a huge
weightage while deciding the awards?

Pankaj.
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Anand Tiwari

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Oct 27, 1996, 2:00:00 AM10/27/96
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In article <32739...@gradient.cis.upenn.edu>, Pankaj says...

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>Hi guys
>
>Pardon me for my ignorance if I am wrong, but aren't the FF awards given
>out after a massive reader survey? And isn't this survey given a huge
>weightage while deciding the awards?
>

Hi Pankaj,
It used to be that way. But now the reader votes carry a
50% weightage. The final decision is by an "eminent jury" who decide the
"deserving" winners (like Anil Kapoor in Beta or Kumar Sanu for nasal
singing of Hennn Hennn Sochenge tumhe pyaar etc)
regards
Anand

Peeyush Ranjan

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Oct 27, 1996, 2:00:00 AM10/27/96
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Pankaj Kakkar wrote:
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> Hi guys
>
> Pardon me for my ignorance if I am wrong, but aren't the FF awards given
> out after a massive reader survey? And isn't this survey given a huge
> weightage while deciding the awards?


This is what I used to think but someone (I think Sadat) told us that
the public response is used only to select nominees.. thereafter its a
panel of judges who decide it.. I think he is right!

-Peeyush

SYLVESTER KHAN

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Oct 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/28/96
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> Although SRK is still my favourite out of the new breed of actors....
>
> *** I will stand behind Nana's performance in KHAMOSHI this year as I
> stood behind SRK's performance in DDLJ last year!!! ***
>
>
> What are other RAMLIERS' comments on this topic?
>

Dinkar Sitaram

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Oct 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/28/96
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Anand Tiwari wrote:
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> In article <54s56o$p...@jedi.erin.utoronto.ca>, Sadat says...
> >
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> Also how much credibility you give to FF awards?

Hi Anand,

You may be right that FF awards don't measure achievement but
some combination of (achievement+politics+connections). But
that is true of everything in life. For example, both Satyajit
Ray and Raj Kapoor made great contributions to Indian cinema.
But there are awards Ray received that Raj Kapoor never did and
vice versa.

I think winning the FF awards simply indicates that one is
at the top of Bollywood. Not winning it indicates that one
still has some distance to go. This may be some distance in
achivement or some distance in politics. But politics is
part of life. So if SRK wins a lot of FF awards, that indicates
he has reached the top of his profession, perhaps partly by
politics and partly by achievement.

Comparing the number of awards won by different individuals is
not meaningful, unless there are order of magnitude differences.
So there is probably little difference between 9 awards and 11
but probably a substantial difference between 1 and 11.

BTW, I vote for Nana and Madhuri.

Dinkar

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