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Honeybadger00

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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On an earlier thread, someone made the comment that Regan Starr was on a
boxcover of a relatively new movie sucking off some shemale and that her career
was on its last leg because of this. I will make a bold prediction. Transexual
movies are still far from mainstream porn but one fact is undeniable, they're
popularity has increased dramatically over the last few years. Case in point
Elegant Angel's "Big Ass Shemale Adventures" and Extreme Associates using
shemales in their "Exteme Brazil" series. Even Rocco is supposedly using
shemales in his movies, although he hasn't done any on camera. If porn keeps on
going the way its going I predict over the next ten years that it will be
standard operating procedure for straight actors to do shemales in the courses
of their careers and shemales will be bigger and MORE popular as the years go
on. Remember boys, plastic surgery and modern medical science can work wonders
which combined with society's ever evolving social mores equals SHEMALE MANIA.
Whether they're really still men or whatever is a different topic for a
different time.
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Ramsey Ramsamoedj

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Honeybadger00 <honeyb...@aol.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
rame.956373605p27061@bash...

> On an earlier thread, someone made the comment that Regan Starr was on a
> boxcover of a relatively new movie sucking off some shemale and that her
career
> was on its last leg because of this. I will make a bold prediction.
Transexual
> movies are still far from mainstream porn but one fact is undeniable,
they're
> popularity has increased dramatically over the last few years. Case in
point
> Elegant Angel's "Big Ass Shemale Adventures" and Extreme Associates using
> shemales in their "Exteme Brazil" series. Even Rocco is supposedly using
> shemales in his movies, although he hasn't done any on camera. If porn
keeps on
> going the way its going I predict over the next ten years that it will be
> standard operating procedure for straight actors to do shemales in the
courses
> of their careers and shemales will be bigger and MORE popular as the years
go
> on. Remember boys, plastic surgery and modern medical science can work
wonders
> which combined with society's ever evolving social mores equals SHEMALE
MANIA.
> Whether they're really still men or whatever is a different topic for a
> different time.

I think she-males are disgusting but I still want to see the scene with
Regan Starr, she's one of my favorite pornslut.
What's the title of this movie?

Ramsey.

FrankSimns

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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>From: honeyb...@aol.com

>On an earlier thread, someone made the comment that Regan Starr was on a
>boxcover of a relatively new movie sucking off some shemale and that her
>career
>was on its last leg because of this.

A claim that doesn't make much sense to me. Nobody claims a girls career
is on
it's last legs if she does another girl. Nobody claims it if she does a guy
(Janine and Felecia would be exceptions to this general rule.) Why would the
claim be made for her doing somebody that is basically both?

Frank

NateDogg

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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The name of it said "She Male Face Cream", I'll see if i can snag the box
and I'll bring it home and scan it for ya. Like I said I haven't watched
the movie, but she is shown sucking a dick, and the title ya know....however
it is totally conceivable that she's just sucking off a dude. I'd take the
movie home if it wouldn't set me up for hours and hours of ribbing by my
coworkers at the store.

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> Honeybadger00 <honeyb...@aol.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> rame.956373605p27061@bash...

> > On an earlier thread, someone made the comment that Regan Starr was on a
> > boxcover of a relatively new movie sucking off some shemale and that her
> career

Humevesne

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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honeyb...@aol.com writes:
> I will make a bold prediction.
> Transexual movies are still far
> from mainstream porn but one
> fact is undeniable, they're
> popularity has increased
> dramatically over the last few
> years.

<snip>

> If porn keeps on going the way
> its going I predict over the next
> ten years that it will be standard > operating procedure for straight
> actors to do shemales in the
> courses of their careers and
> shemales will be bigger and
> MORE popular as the years go
> on. Remember boys, plastic
> surgery and modern medical
> science can work wonders
> which combined with society's
> ever evolving social mores
> equals SHEMALE MANIA.

This is a reasonable enough prediction. I would assess the odds on this
happening at about 50/50.

Whether or not shemales become more mainstream depends on how well the
she/hes
involved can approximate the look of an attractive woman who just happens to
have a dick.

The trouble with she-males is that so many of them look unattractive and,
frankly, freakish. Only a small minority of them look like beautiful women
with a cock. But if you get a series of beautiful she-males who have the
charisma of a female porn star with a cock added to the mix, people might
find
them more appealing.

But as long as the majority of them look like repulsive transvestites with
fake
tits, I would say all bets are off.


Humevesne

"Let us leave pretty women to men
with no imagination."
-- Marcel Proust

Honeybadger00

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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>Subject: Re: Regan Starr and shemales
>From: hume...@aol.com (Humevesne)

>But as long as the majority of them look like repulsive transvestites with
>fake
>tits, I would say all bets are off.
>Humevesne

I AGREE with you to a point. But believe me all it's really gonna take is for
ONE megastar Shemale who's that hott to make it happen.

Jim Gunn

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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frank...@aol.com (FrankSimns) wrote:

>>From: honeyb...@aol.com
>
>>On an earlier thread, someone made the comment that Regan Starr was on a
>>boxcover of a relatively new movie sucking off some shemale and that her
>>career
>>was on its last leg because of this.
>

>A claim that doesn't make much sense to me. Nobody claims a girls career
>is on it's last legs if she does another girl. Nobody claims it if she does a guy
>(Janine and Felecia would be exceptions to this general rule.) Why would the
>claim be made for her doing somebody that is basically both?

Because this kind of circulor logic is irrelevant to the homophobia
and double standard that boy/boy scenes and transgendered scenes
generate in the business. Girl-girl scenes may also actually be
"homosexual" in some technical sense but not in practice, since g/g is
considered part of straight porn that apeals to (or at least is
tolerated by) most heterosexual men and women.

She-males (whether with women or men) and male homosexual scenes on
the other hand are for non-straight, or at least bi-curious males and
not overwhelmingly considered part of straight porn. The other
poster was correct though, she-males are becoming *slightly* more
accepted in mainstream hetero porn as of late. However a bias still
exists.


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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:20:35, "NateDogg" <njg...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>The name of it said "She Male Face Cream", I'll see if i can snag the box
>and I'll bring it home and scan it for ya. Like I said I haven't watched
>the movie, but she is shown sucking a dick, and the title ya know....however
>it is totally conceivable that she's just sucking off a dude. I'd take the
>movie home if it wouldn't set me up for hours and hours of ribbing by my
>coworkers at the store.

Save your dignity, they have it on the beluved jadedvideo.com site
Front boxcover.
http://jadedvideo.com/order_desc2.asp?PageNo=1&RowCount=50&PRODUCT_ID=30992
Back boxcover.
http://jadedvideo.com/order_desc3.asp?PageNo=1&RowCount=50&PRODUCT_ID=30992

Jeez! I'm more concerned that my role model, Jack Hammer, is listed
as being in the flick!

Is that her on the lower right corner of the back boxcover, taking a
facial?
What happened to her blonde hair? She vying to take over Sharon
Kane's spot in history? :-)

In my opinion, her career has tanked, I mean she did volunteer to get
beat up in the Rough Sex gig, only thing which possibly could help her
now is a swirlie flick with Rocco....

Eric Dew

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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In article <rame.956427613p1925@bash>, Humevesne <hume...@aol.com> wrote:

>honeyb...@aol.com writes:
>
>> If porn keeps on going the way
>> its going I predict over the next
>> ten years that it will be standard
>> operating procedure for straight

Ten years is a long time. I don't think we can even predict the medium
on which porn will be delivered.

>> actors to do shemales in the
>> courses of their careers and
>> shemales will be bigger and
>> MORE popular as the years go
>> on. Remember boys, plastic
>> surgery and modern medical
>> science can work wonders
>> which combined with society's
>> ever evolving social mores
>> equals SHEMALE MANIA.
>
>This is a reasonable enough prediction. I would assess the odds on this
>happening at about 50/50.
>
>Whether or not shemales become more mainstream depends on how well the
>she/hes
>involved can approximate the look of an attractive woman who just happens to
>have a dick.
>
>The trouble with she-males is that so many of them look unattractive and,
>frankly, freakish. Only a small minority of them look like beautiful women
>with a cock. But if you get a series of beautiful she-males who have the
>charisma of a female porn star with a cock added to the mix, people might
>find them more appealing.
>

>But as long as the majority of them look like repulsive transvestites with
>fake tits, I would say all bets are off.
>

I'm not gay nor a frequent viewer of black women in porn, but I think Lisa
Lawrence is pretty good looking, a black shemale with a huge hanger-oner.

I actually like watching some shemale vids, mainly because some of them have
a pretty interesting plot. The plot (usually involving a guy or girl
surprised by a girl with a dick) makes the sexual tension a bit, ah, tenser.

I have no qualms about seeing a guy going down on a shemale's dick, so the
homo factor that some people object to is not there for me. So they're
a good watch.

EDEW

FrankSimns

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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>From: ed...@netcom.com (Eric Dew)

>I have no qualms about seeing a guy going down on a shemale's dick, so the
>homo factor that some people object to is not there for me. So they're
>a good watch.
>
>EDEW

Well, I don't particularly want to watch a guy go down on a shemale, or any
dick for that matter - I don't object to it, but I get nothing out of it. What
I don't understand is why people are objecting to a GIRL going down on a
shemale. It doesn't make sense to me - if they don't object to a girl going
down on a guy, and don't object to a girl going down on a girl, why a shemale?
The only "gay" factor would be a lesbian one, which is incredibly common in
mainstream porno...

Frank

NateDogg

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Apr 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/26/00
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Because women aren't 'supposed' to have cocks, and I'd say that if I were
getting intimate with a woman and she had a cock, that'd be a deal breaker,
and probably most guys feel the same way. Call in insecurity if ya want,
but yer definition really does not matter. We don't all view porn as a "if
i were in his/her place" perspective. Sometimes we view for what we find
erotic, some guys can sit there and jerk off to shit-eating like it ain't no
thang. However most of us won't stray from the conventional mainstream'd
porn.

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FrankSimns

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>From: "NateDogg" njg...@mindspring.com

>Because women aren't 'supposed' to have cocks, and I'd say that if I were
>getting intimate with a woman and she had a cock, that'd be a deal breaker,
>and probably most guys feel the same way.

I agree with this, but in this case it isn't you getting intimate with a
woman
with a cock, it's another girl getting intimate with a woman with a cock. I
just don't see why that is all that differenr from watching a girl munch
rug.
In either case, "you" aren't represented in the scene.

Blazin' Tommy D.

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Dear group

COMMENTS INSERTED BELOW:

Eric Dew <ed...@netcom.com> wrote in article <rame.956598018p957@bash>...


> In article <rame.956427613p1925@bash>, Humevesne <hume...@aol.com>
wrote:
> >honeyb...@aol.com writes:

ONE PERSON SAID:
"If porn keeps on going the way its going . . ."

"Remember boys, plastic surgery and modern medical
science can work wonders which combined with society's

ever evolving social mores . . . "

ANOTHER PERSON RESPONDED:

"Whether or not shemales become more mainstream depends on how well the
she/hes
involved can approximate the look of an attractive woman who just happens
to
have a dick.
The trouble with she-males is that so many of them look unattractive and,
frankly, freakish. Only a small minority of them look like beautiful women
with a cock.

But if you get a series of beautiful she-males who have the
charisma of a female porn star with a cock added to the mix, people might
find them more appealing".

COMMENTS: physicality is one way of looking at it. 1st, a woman has a
wider shoulder
and pelvic angle than a man. This is obvious in the angle from the hips to
the
knees, and in a sort of cliche maneuver - zippering up a dress, yourself.
2nd, women have
a much smaller rib cage and waist, so first off you're not going to find a
brick shithouse TV.
Other peculiarities of men are receding hairlines, "Adam's apple" and a
larger jaw. I think
a large majority of men don't actually recognize these things and are so
used to seeing men
with hair, that if they saw a shaven man of slight build with nice legs and
feet they might get
fooled and require a double take. The tease and attraction is certainly
part of it.
But physicality is only one way of looking at it. The art of impersonation
is impressionism,
a man "dressed" creating the impression of the feminine. This might be done
in a "camp" fashion
or a serious fashion. I think the challenge to such impressionist is
captured in the lyric of a David
Bowie song on "Hunkey Dory", if I recall correctly, "Bippity Boppity Hat .
. . Oh Lord I could
do better than that".
I think that the people that are turned on by this are men that see a
woman and think, Geez,
her legs with a little work could look better than that and then see a guy
really killing himself to do
everything he can to look the best that he can as a woman, and the
curiosity/appreciation develops
from that aspect. Either there is an interest there or there never will be.
The only thing that will change
is that over time more men will admit to themselves, at least, that they do
have such an attraction and
what they do with it from there is their own business. Obviously there is a
demand. I think that's what
makes the whole thing interesting.

BTD

NateDogg

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> I agree with this, but in this case it isn't you getting intimate with a
> woman
> with a cock, it's another girl getting intimate with a woman with a cock.
I
> just don't see why that is all that differenr from watching a girl munch
> rug.
> In either case, "you" aren't represented in the scene.

I wouldn't be represented if a woman were getting it on with a Bloodhound
dog either, however I wouldn't find it erotic or stimulating. Although some
sure would. Now if you were to say watching Jenna Jameson covered in brown
gravy and a wolverine that's high on angel dust...I'd be interested and
stimulated by that carnage. :P

TetsuwanATOM

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On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:20:35, "NateDogg" <njg...@mindspring.com>
tumbled from the tabletop in a drunken stupor and screamed:

>The name of it said "She Male Face Cream", I'll see if i can snag the box
>and I'll bring it home and scan it for ya. Like I said I haven't watched
>the movie, but she is shown sucking a dick, and the title ya know....however
>it is totally conceivable that she's just sucking off a dude. I'd take the
>movie home if it wouldn't set me up for hours and hours of ribbing by my
>coworkers at the store.
>

Didn't Torris once say it takes a real man to rent a She Male video?
HEHEH.


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What I find vaguely disturbing about she-male porn is that it is
virtually the only form of gay/bi porn created for and marketed towards
heterosexual men. The fact that the men playing the she-males are
dressed as women and have had extensive consmetic surgery and hormone
treatments should not obscure the fact that these so-called she-males
are guys, who are usually performing sex acts with other guys. And, for
the large part, the audience for this sort of thing is self-identiied
heterosexual men.

Simply put, a large chunk of the hetero male porn-viewing public, who
would never go near an explicitly gay male sex vid, seem to be quite
happy to drool over the same guys doing their thing in drag.

Something doesn't add up here.

FrankSimns

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>From: "NateDogg" njg...@mindspring.com

>I wouldn't be represented if a woman were getting it on with a Bloodhound
>dog either, however I wouldn't find it erotic or stimulating.

I'm not saying that one should necessarily find it erotic or stimulating,
either. Just that if a girl can do a guy without desperately trying to
restart
a career, and if a girl can do a girl without desperately trying to restart a
career, then why is it assumed that if she does someone who is both, she is
desperately trying to jumpstart said career. (This is where the discussion
started.)

I never said that anyone should find it erotic - hell, I don't find it
erotic.
I just don't understand the virulence in some peoples reactions to Regan
doing
a shemale.

Frank

Torris

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:40:33 GMT, TetsuwanATOM <mor...@netscape.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:20:35, "NateDogg" <njg...@mindspring.com>
>tumbled from the tabletop in a drunken stupor and screamed:
>
>>The name of it said "She Male Face Cream", I'll see if i can snag the box
>>and I'll bring it home and scan it for ya. Like I said I haven't watched
>>the movie, but she is shown sucking a dick, and the title ya
know....however
>>it is totally conceivable that she's just sucking off a dude. I'd take the
>>movie home if it wouldn't set me up for hours and hours of ribbing by my
>>coworkers at the store.
>>
>Didn't Torris once say it takes a real man to rent a She Male video?
>HEHEH.

that's my story and I'm sticking to it! For me the ultra femine ones
like Dana Douglas and Vanity or Lilienne Li really are convincing and
sexy. It's like they overcompensate on the feminine side to hide their
male birth "handicap". The hideous ones like Olivia just substitute
lip implants and silicone tits for femininity. I don't really care
that much to see male sucking she male dick as much as I prefer She
Male fucking real females or shemales fucking each other. In that
regard Joey Silvera is the king of she males porn. Esp. volume of his
Big Ass Shemales

I also hate shemales with deep voices and transvestites posing as
shemales disgust me. And shemales with 5 o'clock shadow, I could live
without them too.


Torris

"Rehab is for quitters"

FrankSimns

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>From: thom...@webtv.net (Thom Burr)

>The fact that the men playing the she-males are
>dressed as women and have had extensive consmetic surgery and hormone
>treatments should not obscure the fact that these so-called she-males
>are guys, who are usually performing sex acts with other guys.

I don't disagree, however, once again; in this case we are talking about a
she-male with a girl. So it isn't a guy with a guy - it is either a guy with a
girl or a girl with a girl, depending upon how one feels about she-males.

Frank

Thom Burr

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Re: Frank Simm's wondering about why it's assumed by some that Regan's
career is ending...

I don't have a specific single reason why this assumption is so
widespread, but I can point out the standard porn star career
trajectory: softcore, girl/girl, boy/girl, anal/DP, gangbang,
specialty/freakshow, retirement/rehab.

She-males are definitely in the specialty category, along with other
freakshow sort of vids that feature midgets, hermaphrodites, elderly
women, the obesce, felching, bukkakke, extreme gangbangs (25+),
menstruation, etc... The only reason I can give that hardly any A or B
list girls ever appear in these sort of vids is pure visceral disgust on
the part of the large majority of the porn market, and probably on the
part of the girls as well. I suspect that prominently starring in scenes
like this tends to tarnish a girl's image and, therefore, reduces her
market value and shelf life.

You are correct in saying that, technically, Regan's shemale seen is
just a boy/girl oral scene. True, and if Regan shared a double-ended
dildo with a 76-old-grandmother, that would technically be merely
another girl/girl scene (in a matter of speaking, anyway). Would it just
be another g/g scene if the other girl were 300 pounds? A midget?
Perhaps you see what I mean...

My assumption is that Regan--never very high on the B list to start
with--is no longer getting enough standard work and as had to start
doing the sort of extreme speciality work that she-male vids are
generally classified as.

Just an assumption, however, based on watching general porn trends over
the years. I can't speak to the specifics of the individual case...

David Austin

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In article <rame.956936404p27861@bash>, thom...@webtv.net wrote:

> ... she-male porn is ...


> virtually the only form of gay/bi porn created for and marketed towards

> heterosexual men. ... for
> the large part, the audience for this sort of thing is self-identi[f]ed
> heterosexual men.
<stuff deleted>

That's my impression, too (and what thom...@webtv.net says here may be
based on more than mere impressions). I'd like more evidence, though.

Can those knowledgeable about gay porn consumption confirm that there is
relatively little interest in among gays in she-male (or other trans)
porn?

Does anyone have any idea how popular trans-porn (including those with
"ambiguous genitalia," as some doctors say) is with other genders and/or
orientations?

Thanks.

David.
--
David F. Austin
david_...@ncsu.edu

TetsuwanATOM

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:25:30 GMT, tor...@uswest.net (Torris) tumbled

There is a big sub genre of Japanese erotic art called "dick girl" in
english. There is some she male porn from Japan but it is hard to
find. Of that which has been released in the states quite a few
feature she-male/female scenes. I've only seen pics of Japanese
she-males (penises always tucked away) but they look quite convincing.


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On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:20:17, thom...@webtv.net (Thom Burr) wrote:

>What I find vaguely disturbing about she-male porn is that it is

>virtually the only form of gay/bi porn created for and marketed towards
>heterosexual men.

I disagree. You never see the shemale porn located outside of
proximity of the gay section. I think with all the male sucking of she
male or three ways where male sucks male while she male fucks male
isn't what I like to see. Whenever that dynamic hits, I reach for the
FF button.

If I were a pornographer, I'd market it as you say to a hetero
audience by having:

1. shemales fuck each other
2. shemales fucking real females

The fact that the men playing the she-males are
>dressed as women and have had extensive consmetic surgery and hormone
>treatments should not obscure the fact that these so-called she-males

>are guys, who are usually performing sex acts with other guys. And, for
>the large part, the audience for this sort of thing is self-identiied
>heterosexual men.

Maybe I'm jaded and bored with porn and am looking for something new.
I'd never rent a gay flick.

>
>Simply put, a large chunk of the hetero male porn-viewing public, who
>would never go near an explicitly gay male sex vid, seem to be quite
>happy to drool over the same guys doing their thing in drag.

Except b/c of the hormone treatments and breast implants some (notice
I say some) of the shemales are really convincing women. Take Vanity
for example. Her voice, her demeanor, her body all are femineine. Only
her height would make me think she had really been a man. Oh yeah and
her cock and balls :-)

>
>Something doesn't add up here.

It's just another fetish


Torris

"Rehab is for quitters"

Torris

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:25:30 GMT, tor...@uswest.net (Torris) wrote:

>. In that
>regard Joey Silvera is the king of she males porn. Esp. volume of his
>Big Ass Shemales

Volume 3 is the best of this series IMO

hooli...@my-deja.com

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Ijust wanna know.......do the shemales in Silvera's vids look
convincingly like females? They're Brazilian, right?


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In article <rame.956954404p30567@bash>,
tor...@uswest.net wrote:

>
> For me the ultra femine ones
> like Dana Douglas and Vanity or Lilienne Li really are convincing and
> sexy. It's like they overcompensate on the feminine side to hide their
> male birth "handicap".

Lilienne Li is not only convincing and sexy.... She also looks and acts
a lot sexier than the majority of *real* girls in straight porn, and
her face is exquisite. Believe me... If most shemale vids
featured "girls" who looked like Lilienne, a LOT more straight males
would be renting them tapes.


The hideous ones like Olivia just substitute
> lip implants and silicone tits for femininity. I don't really care
> that much to see male sucking she male dick as much as I prefer She

> Male fucking real females or shemales fucking each other. In that


> regard Joey Silvera is the king of she males porn. Esp. volume of his
> Big Ass Shemales
>

> I also hate shemales with deep voices and transvestites posing as
> shemales disgust me. And shemales with 5 o'clock shadow, I could live
> without them too.
>

Torris

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On Wed, 03 May 2000 01:22:52 GMT, hooli...@my-deja.com wrote:

>Ijust wanna know.......do the shemales in Silvera's vids look
>convincingly like females? They're Brazilian, right?

Yes, some of them are slim with wide hips and round asses. Facially, I
would say most of them are convincing.

Torris

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On Wed, 03 May 2000 01:43:00 GMT, hooli...@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article <rame.956954404p30567@bash>,
> tor...@uswest.net wrote:
>
>>
>> For me the ultra femine ones
>> like Dana Douglas and Vanity or Lilienne Li really are convincing and
>> sexy. It's like they overcompensate on the feminine side to hide their
>> male birth "handicap".
>
>Lilienne Li is not only convincing and sexy.... She also looks and acts
>a lot sexier than the majority of *real* girls in straight porn, and
>her face is exquisite. Believe me... If most shemale vids
>featured "girls" who looked like Lilienne, a LOT more straight males
>would be renting them tapes.

One of my newsgroups is the transexual.action group. There is a girl
there named Victoria who is equally gorgeous

Tabercil

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Hey!, on Thu, 04 May 2000 00:00:08, tor...@uswest.net (Torris) wrote:

>On Wed, 03 May 2000 01:43:00 GMT, hooli...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>In article <rame.956954404p30567@bash>,
>> tor...@uswest.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For me the ultra femine ones
>>> like Dana Douglas and Vanity or Lilienne Li really are convincing and
>>> sexy. It's like they overcompensate on the feminine side to hide their
>>> male birth "handicap".
>>
>>Lilienne Li is not only convincing and sexy.... She also looks and acts
>>a lot sexier than the majority of *real* girls in straight porn, and
>>her face is exquisite. Believe me... If most shemale vids
>>featured "girls" who looked like Lilienne, a LOT more straight males
>>would be renting them tapes.
>
>One of my newsgroups is the transexual.action group. There is a girl
>there named Victoria who is equally gorgeous

Yup... in fact said Victoria is extremely convincing... so much so that I
used
the series of her in a white dress on a chesterfield to play a prank on a
coworker... I emailed him certain chosen pics (the ones that made her seem
like a normal woman - topless and fully clothed) one at a time and kept
asking
him if he wanted more of Victoria. He kept replying "Yes".

When one of his replies said "I want to see Victoria's Secret" (i.e. full
frontal nudity), I took that as being the ideal straight line and mailed him
the remainder of them and made sure I was in the neighbourhood when he opened
them up to see what his reaction to them would be, but far enough away to get
a head start in running away from him :)
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On Thu, 04 May 2000 18:37:43, Tabercil
<tabe...@SPAMBLOCK.poboxes.com> wrote:


>Yup... in fact said Victoria is extremely convincing... so much so that I
>used
>the series of her in a white dress on a chesterfield to play a prank on a
>coworker... I emailed him certain chosen pics (the ones that made her seem
>like a normal woman - topless and fully clothed) one at a time and kept
>asking
>him if he wanted more of Victoria. He kept replying "Yes".

that is a great series of pics. Lately there has been some outdoor
scenes with "her" and a guy. Is "she" making films? This guy was
assfucking "her" for sure.

Torris

"Rehab is for quitters"

Mike Paul

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In article <rame.957480014p25607@bash>, tabe...@SPAMBLOCK.poboxes.com
says...

> >>Lilienne Li is not only convincing and sexy.... She also looks and acts
> >>a lot sexier than the majority of *real* girls in straight porn, and
> >>her face is exquisite. Believe me... If most shemale vids
> >>featured "girls" who looked like Lilienne, a LOT more straight males
> >>would be renting them tapes.

As one of the straight males, I have to say: noooooooooooooo.

Really, really, really feminine-looking guys are still GUYS.

I can handle post-op transexuals. Plenty of REAL women can't have kids,
so it's not a huge deal. Keep up the hormone treatments, and it'd
*probably* be OK.

But with a dick, it's still a guy. And I don't want to have ANY kind of
sex with guys. So when those shemale-blowing-guy scenes turn into guy-
blowing-shemale, it someplace I don't want to be...

Mike Paul

I just wanted you to be aware of my feelings on the issue...

Jim Gunn

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Mike Paul <mp...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>But with a dick, it's still a guy. And I don't want to have ANY kind of
>sex with guys. So when those shemale-blowing-guy scenes turn into guy-
>blowing-shemale, it someplace I don't want to be...
>

Mike, I'm shocked at your callous atitude. Wouldn't it be
discriminatory for a male porn actor to refuse to have sex with a
transsexual? I mean if he ought to be ostracized for say, refusing to
have sex with a person of another race, he ought to be ostracized for
refusing to have sex with a transgendered person as well, right?


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