Why is it abbreviated ID4?
Debbie Smith
Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
TIA,
Debbie
Dave Glue
On 8 Jul 1996 22:15:26 GMT, Debbie Smith <deb...@bga.com> wrote:
>Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
>usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
Uhhh...July 4th, the date of Independence Day? Dunno, call me crazy.
_I_ndepdence _D_ay the _4_th.
Frank Eggleston -- my own opinions
> Debbie Smith <deb...@bga.com> writes:
> Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
> usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
>>>>
I think somebody already pointed out that the sequel (God forbid! -- REALLY nasty aliens?)
would be either ID5 or ID4.2.
Frank Eggleston
Tara Lee Stuckless
Dave Glue (dav...@interlog.com) wrote:
: On 8 Jul 1996 22:15:26 GMT, Debbie Smith <deb...@bga.com> wrote:
: >Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
: >usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
: Uhhh...July 4th, the date of Independence Day? Dunno, call me crazy.
: _I_ndepdence _D_ay the _4_th.
Okay, you're crazy.
I really don't think that makes perfect sense. You don't say "Christmas
the 25th" or "Halloween the 31st". You say "July 4th", "December 25th",
or "October 31st". "Independence Day the 4th" sounds stupid, but for some
reason they wanted to abbriviate the title, and I guess "ID" sounded
incomplete or just makes people think of identification...
Ron Freilinger
dav...@interlog.com (Dave Glue) wrote:
>On 8 Jul 1996 22:15:26 GMT, Debbie Smith <deb...@bga.com> wrote:
>>Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
>>usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
>Uhhh...July 4th, the date of Independence Day? Dunno, call me crazy.
>_I_ndepdence _D_ay the _4_th.
Uh oh, get ready for the flood of posts stating that it's because
Americans are too lazy so we acronym everything or references to T2.
RUN - evacuate the cities before it's too late!
Ookla the Mok
What the fuck happened to the first three?
Lee Banyard
Debbie Smith (deb...@bga.com) wrote:
: Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
: usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
independence is the fourth day of the alien invasion - ID4...
Dave Glue
On 9 Jul 1996 12:02:29 GMT, e55...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tara Lee
Stuckless) wrote:
>: >Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
>: >usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
>
>: Uhhh...July 4th, the date of Independence Day? Dunno, call me crazy.
>
>: _I_ndepdence _D_ay the _4_th.
>
>Okay, you're crazy.
>
>I really don't think that makes perfect sense. You don't say "Christmas
>the 25th" or "Halloween the 31st". You say "July 4th", "December 25th",
>or "October 31st". "Independence Day the 4th" sounds stupid, but for some
>reason they wanted to abbriviate the title, and I guess "ID" sounded
>incomplete or just makes people think of identification...
???? What's your point? He asked what it meant, I told him. Perhaps
the wording is not exacty, but it should be quite obvious that "ID4"
means Indepdence Day, which falls on the fourth. Duh.
Matt Martinez
Ron Freilinger wrote:
> Uh oh, get ready for the flood of posts stating that it's because
> Americans are too lazy so we acronym everything or references to T2.
> RUN - evacuate the cities before it's too late!
>
I believe the "4" was added because of the fact that the abbreviation
"ID" is used for the term "identification." Most of the time, the ID4
logo overshadowed the title, and admit it, "INDEPENDENCE DAY" is a little
tedious to type.
--
Matt
This is my anti-sig file.
Ron Freilinger
Lee Banyard <l...@messiah2.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Debbie Smith (deb...@bga.com) wrote:
>: Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
>: usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
>
>I think it's because "on the fourth day - we fight back". Our day of
>independence is the fourth day of the alien invasion - ID4...
It's because www.id.com was already being used by someone so they
added the 4 for their web site, and it stuck.
Matt Martinez
Debbie Smith wrote:
>
> Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
> usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
>
In case no one's pointed this out to you yet, it stands for the *4*th of
July. Y'know, the day the movie's named after.
Dave Glue
On Sat, 13 Jul 1996 06:05:23 GMT, da...@ripco.com (David Tate) wrote:
>: ???? What's your point? He asked what it meant, I told him. Perhaps
>: the wording is not exacty, but it should be quite obvious that "ID4"
>: means Indepdence Day, which falls on the fourth. Duh.
>
>I think the point is that if it's an abbreviation, it's an awkward, contrived,
>unnatural one, as if it were designed by... aliens, not totally familiar with
>the language. :) Which naturally leads one to question whether there is another
>explanation.
I see your point- especially now that a friend, who I regard as one of
the brightest people I've ever met- asked what it meant too and
wondered why he never saw it in the film. :)
Eileen Lucas
In <DuGwx...@rci.ripco.com> da...@ripco.com (David Tate) writes:
>
>Dave Glue (dav...@interlog.com) wrote:
>: On 9 Jul 1996 12:02:29 GMT, e55...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tara Lee
>: Stuckless) wrote:
>
>: >: >Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I
can
>: >: >usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me
stumped.
>: >: Uhhh...July 4th, the date of Independence Day? Dunno, call me
crazy.
>: >
>: >: _I_ndepdence _D_ay the _4_th.
>: >
>: >Okay, you're crazy.
>: >
>: >I really don't think that makes perfect sense. You don't say
"Christmas
>: >the 25th" or "Halloween the 31st". You say "July 4th", "December
25th",
>: >or "October 31st". "Independence Day the 4th" sounds stupid, but
for some
>: >reason they wanted to abbriviate the title, and I guess "ID"
sounded
>: >incomplete or just makes people think of identification...
>
Perhaps
>: the wording is not exacty, but it should be quite obvious that "ID4"
>: means Indepdence Day, which falls on the fourth. Duh.
>
>I think the point is that if it's an abbreviation, it's an awkward,
contrived,
>unnatural one, as if it were designed by... aliens, not totally
familiar with
>the language. :) Which naturally leads one to question whether there
is another
>explanation.
I can't have been the only one on this vast newsgroup to know why ID4
is abbreviated so! Now, don't flame me if this has already been
answered - I don't read it all the time ;) Anyway, what I heard is
that the 4 came from the fact that this is the 4th movie to be made
entitled Independence Day. Hence, ID4 = Independence Day 4 :)
Matt Martinez
David Tate wrote:
> I think the point is that if it's an abbreviation, it's an awkward, contrived,
> unnatural one, as if it were designed by... aliens, not totally familiar with
> the language. :) Which naturally leads one to question whether there is another
> explanation.
>
Think about this: ID is usually used to mean "identification." Adding
the 4 distinguished it from that abbreviation. It might have just
started as an in-studio abbreviation, since INDEPENDENCE DAY is rather
tedious to write.
Elf Sternberg
In article <960709192...@messiah2.demon.co.uk>
Lee Banyard <l...@messiah2.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Debbie Smith (deb...@bga.com) wrote:
>: Why is Independence Day abbreviated ID4? What's with the 4? I can
>: usually figure out these abbreviations, but this one has me stumped.
>I think it's because "on the fourth day - we fight back". Our day of
>independence is the fourth day of the alien invasion - ID4...
The director said that the phrase "ID4" was chosen because
"IDay", "IndependenceDay," and "ID" were already taken for... get this...
The acronym was chosen deliberately to make it easy to find
the website. That's it.
Elf !!!
Elf Sternberg I'm not inclined to write pompous
e...@halcyon.com books about unanswerable questions.
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http://www.halcyon.com/elf of time.
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Scott D. Hamilton
Matt Martinez (jsyj...@bright.net) wrote:
: David Tate wrote:
: the 4 distinguished it from that abbreviation. It might have just
: started as an in-studio abbreviation, since INDEPENDENCE DAY is rather
: tedious to write.
ID4 appeared on posters a full year before the movie came out. I'm sure
it was designed to capitalize on the success of the T2 abbreviation.
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a...@vir.com (Michael Mell ) writes:
>hami...@acasun.eckerd.edu (Scott D. Hamilton) wrote:
>yes but, what will they call the sequel.
>ID5?
>ID42?
>help me here - suggestions welcomed!!!!
Don't know about that... but the trend with sequels to effects heavy
movies is to have *more* effects in the sequel... so ID4-II is probably
going to be something like 120 Minutes Effects to 20 Minutes Dialogue/Etc.
which should be interesting... :)
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Gary Wilkes
Actually, I kind of liked comic book writer Peter David's
suggestion on the sequel title. If the aliens wait til the year
2040 to seek revenge and they call the movie "War Day" then it
could be abbreviated to WD40.
Now, I only hope that Peter David doesn't sue me for stealing his
materials.
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Franknseus
I think it's an example of the Die Hard 2 syndrome. Die Hard 2
advertisements featured the cheesy slogan "Die Harder." For some reason
people loved it, and it caught on so much that they thought it was the
title of the movie. The studio actually asked theaters to write "Die
Harder" on the marquees even though the title screen on the movie clearly
says "Die Hard 2."
Independence Day has the same deal. Even though "ID4" is not the actual
title of the movie and is never uttered in the movie (as a code name or
anything) it has caught on so much that people are pretending it is the
name of the movie. But if you ask me, it's as nonsensical and bad of a
title as "D2: The Mighty Ducks 2." Which I suppose is fitting for a movie
like this. It doesn't deserve "Independence Day," which I think is a
pretty nice title.
But for the record, a lot of people don't even know what "ID4" means. I
work at a theater and I finally changed the sign to read "Independence
Day" because I was so tired of having the following take place:
CUSTOMER: Where is Independence Day?
ME: Oh, it's over there where it says "ID4." It's this nickname they have
for the movie... (etc. etc.)
Bryan Frankenseuss Theiss
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