Tim Roth as Hannibal
devil...@my-deja.com
Hannibal.
Tim, there's a reason God creates "supporting actors" that's because
nobody would pay to watch them on the screen for the whole movie.
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Ickyboy1
Roth as Verger...are you sure you're not misquoting the paper(its not The Sun
is it?!)
devil...@my-deja.com
icky...@aol.com (Ickyboy1) wrote:
> And what does Hopkins have to say about this? Come to think of it, I
can see
> Roth as Verger...are you sure you're not misquoting the paper(its not
The Sun
> is it?!)
>
Dempster's column. It said friends of Roth told him that Roth would be
flying to LA next month. Ridley Scott wants him to play Hannibal because
Anthony Hopkins has turned down the role (first I've heard of it).
Dempster mentioned that Roth was currently playing a supporting
role in a Roland Joffe flick (so Roth's career is not on any
"It" list) and gave a lot of cheerful news about that film and Roth's
booming career (NOT) and life.
I get a creepy feeling Delaurentis may think he can just substitute
cheapos Roth and Gellar for Hopkins and Foster and - no one will notice!
If Roth was going to be a movie star, he would already be one. He just
doesn't have the charisma to carry a film and if Roth with his ugly mug
is playing Hannibal,
!!!!!spoiler!!!!!!!
the romance will be TOTALLY unbelievable. He'd be good as Krendler in
fact - everyone would know why Clarice wouldn't f**k him.
!!!!!end of spoiler!!!!
But Dempster specified the role Roth was going to take was as Hannibal
and his source was either Roth himself or his agent (friends don't call
up society columnists - maybe if Roth was part of the hoi-polloi but Tim
Roth (né Smith) just doesn't qualify as Dempster's normal territory).
Scoops in Nigel Dempster's column, the South China Morning Post, the
Dallas Morning News ? What's going on here. I think we should be told!
Andre Janssens
cannot picture anybody else to play this role.
I hope that they will not mess up the whole movie. Jody Foster has to play
with him. Then we will see a good work done. This movie should also be at
least 3 hours long for it to be decent.
Simona Lewis
His past efforts do not inspire me with confidence. He'll stuff it up.
As for Tim Roth, he is very able, but Hannibal Lecter is in his sixties and
Roth can't be over forty yet. I hope like hell the rumour is wrong.
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for once and cast John Hurt (who actually was once considered for the
role). Great actor, correct age and physical appearance...or, for a more
controversial choice, go for someone like Kurtwood Smith who can be both
charming and extremely menacing, and at the same time able to project
superior intelligence...I mean - who would ever believe TIM ROTH as Dr.
Fell, expert on the Italian Renaissance?!?
devil...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Tim Roth told an English newspaper Ridley Scott has chosen him to play
> Hannibal.
>
> Tim, there's a reason God creates "supporting actors" that's because
> nobody would pay to watch them on the screen for the whole movie.
>
Tuttle
>
> I hope that actor Anthony Hopkins will take the role to play Hannibal. I
> cannot picture anybody else to play this role.
Either him or Brian Cox (original Lecter)
Fawlty
>TIM ROTH?!? Jee-sus. Why can´t the morons in Hollywood do the right
thing
>for once and cast John Hurt (who actually was once considered for the
>role). Great actor, correct age and physical appearance...or, for a
more
>controversial choice, go for someone like Kurtwood Smith who can be
both
>charming and extremely menacing, and at the same time able to project
>superior intelligence...
Actually, that's a not a bad idea, he is a skilled actor. But after
watching him in "that 70's show", I wonder if I could look at him as
Hannibal without laughing...
/Mike
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Jason Roth
>
> Actually, that's a not a bad idea, he is a skilled actor. But after
> watching him in "that 70's show", I wonder if I could look at him as
> Hannibal without laughing...
>
He was, as I'm sure you're aware, a really terrifying villain in Robocop.
The scene where he's tormenting Alex Murphy before he and his goons start
blasting him is pretty damn creepy. "Nee nee nee nee nee nee nee nee
nee!" BLAM!!
JR
> /Mike
>
>
>
Ickyboy1
>The scene where he's tormenting Alex Murphy before he and his goons start
>blasting him is pretty damn creepy. "Nee nee nee nee nee nee nee nee
>nee!" BLAM!!
He also appears as a Klan leader in A time to kill, and as a strange evil
cyborg thing in Fortress..he makes a great villain!
Jason Roth
That was him in Fortress? Cool! I've been meaning to rent that one
again, definitely a sleeper!!
JR
Fawlty
>On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Fawlty wrote about Kurtwood Smith:
>>
>> Actually, that's a not a bad idea, he is a skilled actor. But after
>> watching him in "that 70's show", I wonder if I could look at him as
>> Hannibal without laughing...
>>
>
Robocop.
Yeah, I sure remember that. But that was BEFORE I saw him in "That 70's
show". Just like I saw "Creepshow" with Leslie Nielsen before I saw "The
Naked Gun"... now I can't watch "Creepshow" without laughing anymore!
/Mike
Tom
> Actually, that's a not a bad idea, he is a skilled actor. But after
> watching him in "that 70's show", I wonder if I could look at him as
> Hannibal without laughing...
Here's how they'll reshoot the scene in which Clarice meets Lecter (as
a flashback):
Clarice walks to the end of the cell block toward Lecter's cell.
Another prisoner speaks as she passes.
Prisoner-in-2nd-to-Last-Cell:
I smell your cunt.
Lecter (to Prisoner-in-2nd-to-Last-Cell):
Now, that's something a DUMBASS would say!
Tom Cervo
and Mila Kunis as Clarice.
Tuttle
>
> TIM ROTH?!? Jee-sus. Why can´t the morons in Hollywood do the right thing
> for once and cast John Hurt (who actually was once considered for the
> role). Great actor, correct age and physical appearance...or, for a more
If Hollywood were to do something right they would virtually eliminate
the Pazzi character; think of how to incorporate 6 fingers on the left
hand when Hopkins only had 5 AND change the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
ending to something a bit more plausible.
Also Hurt would be great, him or Ian Holm (who I consider very
underrated)
devil...@my-deja.com
> If Hollywood were to do something right they would virtually eliminate
> the Pazzi character; think of how to incorporate 6 fingers on the left
> hand when Hopkins only had 5 AND change the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
> ending to something a bit more plausible.
>
> Also Hurt would be great, him or Ian Holm (who I consider very
> underrated)
Hannibal doesn't have the 6 fingers anymore in "Hannibal" - he's got a
scar-
John Hurt is like Malkovich, he may be straight but he can't
convincingly play straight.
Ian Holm's a wonderful actor but he's 70 - Hannibal in the book is
already 60 and getting on a bit for all the derringdo and screwing
required of him, but 70 is really pushing it. Plus, Holm's about as
threatening as a garden gnome.
Tuttle
>
> > If Hollywood were to do something right they would virtually eliminate
> > the Pazzi character; think of how to incorporate 6 fingers on the left
> > hand when Hopkins only had 5 AND change the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
> > ending to something a bit more plausible.
> >
> > Also Hurt would be great, him or Ian Holm (who I consider very
> > underrated)
>
> Hannibal doesn't have the 6 fingers anymore in "Hannibal" - he's got a
> scar-
BUT in Hannibal the way they figured out it was him was BECAUSE of the
scar. Therefore--without the 6 in SotL, it makes no sense
talib
> already 60 and getting on a bit for all the derringdo and screwing
> required of him, but 70 is really pushing it. Plus, Holm's about as
> threatening as a garden gnome.
>
>
Wasn't he the android in alien? That was pretty threatening. Still, he
isn't young any more. Are you sure its 70? I thought he was in his
late fifties.
Talib
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I first remember him as Lenny, the pimp son in Harold Pinter's THE
HOMECOMING. He recreated the role in the American Film Theatre production
back in the early 1970's. I would guess that he's as old as Eastwood,
Duvall, Hackman and that crew (which would be in the late 60's).
Ken
devil...@my-deja.com
> Wasn't he the android in alien? That was pretty threatening. Still,
he
> isn't young any more. Are you sure its 70? I thought he was in his
> late fifties.
>
> Talib
>
According to Chambers he was born in 1930. He was great in Sweet
Hereafter he should have got an Oscar for that (so should Sarah Polley).
He's a little bit old to be slaughtering people with his bare
teeth and getting the girl though.
devil...@my-deja.com
He says he has never been offered the role of Lecter (maybe this means
he has been offered some other role). He said Hopkins is too hard an
act to follow and an actor would have to be a fool to try.
mattbe...@hotmail.com
>In the mid-1960s Ian Holm was already an established stage actor in England.
>I first remember him as Lenny, the pimp son in Harold Pinter's THE
>HOMECOMING. He recreated the role in the American Film Theatre production
>back in the early 1970's.
When I saw him in that movie, he was recognizable to me; so he must
have been in something before. That movie, by the way, was incredibly
depressing and oppressive. It's one of the few movies I wish I'd
never watched.
Provided he's not too old (I have no idea what he looks like now) he'd
make an excellent Hannibal Lecter.
kco...@my-deja.com
mattbe...@hotmail.com wrote:
> When I saw him in that movie, he was recognizable to me; so he must
> have been in something before. That movie, by the way, was incredibly
> depressing and oppressive. It's one of the few movies I wish I'd
> never watched.
>
> Provided he's not too old (I have no idea what he looks like now) he'd
> make an excellent Hannibal Lecter.
Holm's an excellent actor (and robbed of an Oscar for Sweet Hereafter)
but he's 70, a bit old even for Lecter.
I can't imagine another actor even wanting to play Lecter. It would be
hubris to take over the role, Hopkins is too identified with it. Even
if Lecter has had plastic surgery, the most memorable bit about Hopkins'
performance was The Voice: what would another actor do, mimic it? It
would end up being a farce. I think if Hopkins passes on the role, the
film will probably never be made.