"Unfaithful" question (SPOILERS)
TaTaToothy
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All in all, Unfaithful was a much better film than I expected going
in.
In the scene where Richard Gere meets with Paul Martel, he gets a bit
dizzy and nauseous... this is established as "real" by point-of-view
shots coming from Gere's perspective.
However, it's not clear to me what the reason is... did Martel slip
Gere a "mickey" in the vodka? Or is Gere's head spinning just from
the revelation of the affair? If it's the former, then there's a
self-defense angle to the crime. If the latter, then it's truly a
cold blooded murder.
Maybe I missed it, but it seemed they were implying that Gere had been
drugged. However, his head seemed to clear up pretty quickly after
the murder.
Did anyone catch the details that I must have missed?
JLplsSS
I have no answers either. I thought I saw Gere grab at his heart. He was
obviously sweating also, so I thought he was having a heart attack (obviously
not, given what he proceeds to do!).
I don't think he could have been drugged and recovered so quickly. I think it
must have been the shock of what he had learned that day - and then to see that
his wife had given her LOVER a gift he had given to HER - I think his head just
spun from that revelation.
Donna
My opinions might have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
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> All in all, Unfaithful was a much better film than I
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TTT,
I agree.
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> In the scene where Richard Gere meets with Paul
> Martel, he gets a bit dizzy and nauseous... this is
> established as "real" by point-of-view shots coming
> from Gere's perspective.
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> However, it's not clear to me what the reason is... did
> Martel slip Gere a "mickey" in the vodka?
No, he just pours him a drink. Unless Paul was expecting him
(which clearly he wasn't), he wouldn't have a "pre-Mickeyed" bottle
around.
> Or is Gere's head spinning just from the revelation of
> the affair?
There you go. I think the combination of the quick gulps of cold
vodka, his already jealous agitation, and the surprise of finding his
snow globe had been given to Paul as a gift all built up into a sudden
violent rage.
> If it's the former, then there's a self-defense angle to
> the crime. If the latter, then it's truly a cold blooded murder.
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I don't think he went there with intent to kill, but rather to
somehow make sense of it all. Unexpectedly, he couldn't control his
rage once he settled in. There's probably a temporary-insanity defense
there which could work given the high-ticket lawyer he could afford.
Hell, such an attorney might be able to twist the facts into a
self-defense case, but that wouldn't be truthful to the situation (as if
that were an issue).
Jay
5/24/02
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Kenneth Crudup
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>"TaTaToothy" <horsetoo...@pinkandgreensewer.com> wrote
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>> However, it's not clear to me what the reason is... did
>> Martel slip Gere a "mickey" in the vodka?
> No, he just pours him a drink. Unless Paul was expecting him
>(which clearly he wasn't), he wouldn't have a "pre-Mickeyed" bottle
>around.
>> Or is Gere's head spinning just from the revelation of
>> the affair?
> There you go. I think the combination of the quick gulps of cold
>vodka, his already jealous agitation, and the surprise of finding his
>snow globe had been given to Paul as a gift all built up into a sudden
>violent rage.
I'm pretty sure the snow globe is what *really* set him off, esp. if you
think ahead to the scene with it near the end.
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G0RichG0
Indeed. The scene where Con discovers the note in the bottom of the globe
convinced me that that was what set him off. Gere played it well, too.
However, personally I didn't enjoy this movie.
I was expecting passion between Martel and Con, but some of those sex scenes
just smacked (pun intended) of rape to me.
What does everyone think the symbolic significance of the last scene was, where
the family is stopped in front of the police station at a red (then green)
traffic light?
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"G0RichG0" <g0ri...@aol.com> wrote:
> > ke...@panix.com (Kenneth Crudup) wrote:
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> > I'm pretty sure the snow globe is what *really* set him
> > off, esp. if you think ahead to the scene with it near the end.
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> Indeed. The scene where Con discovers the note in the
> bottom of the globe convinced me that that was what set
> him off. Gere played it well, too.
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Rich,
I agree.
> However, personally I didn't enjoy this movie.
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I don't agree.
> I was expecting passion between Martel and Con, but
> some of those sex scenes just smacked (pun intended)
> of rape to me.
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I agree to disagree. Agree?
Christ, I didn't see anything that smacked of rape in those scenes.
Passion, a very mutual passion, yes, but not rape at all. In fact, I
thought the bed scene where Diane Lane is trembling at the gentle touch
of Olivier Martinez is one of the most sensuous scenes I've seen in many
years.
> What does everyone think the symbolic significance of
> the last scene was, where the family is stopped in front
> of the police station at a red (then green) traffic light?
They are so consumed with discussing their options that they don't
even notice the lights are changing on the traffic light (obviously they
are out past midnight when traffic is dead). Symbolically, the signal
is cycling through their options to stay (red) or go (green). Then
there's that great shot where the camera pulls back and you see they are
in front of a police station. Perhaps Gere is really thinking of
turning himself in on the spot. More likely, as I see it, is that they
are deep in their conversation and are as unaware of the police station
as they are the light changing. In any event, the glowing police sign
above their heads means this is a bittersweet ending. Gere will either
turn himself in or they will go to Mexico. Either way, the police will
hover over them (like that sign) for the rest of their lives.
Jay
5/18/02
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Denise Perry
I heard that the original ending had Gere walking into the police station.
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> I heard that the original ending had Gere walking into
> the police station.
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Denise,
Absolutely true. However, I like this ambiguous ending better.