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dpe...@hotmail.com

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Does anyone have any concrete evicence that Lauren Holly can act?

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POOKEY

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I can't say that I do.....I doubt anyone else does either - she's horrible.

Alison.


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RFergu6772

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I thought she was ok, on Picket Fences, but she got stale like the show toward
the end.
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Justin Siegel

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dpe...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Does anyone have any concrete evicence that Lauren Holly can act?

Beautiful Girls (1996, Johnathan Demme)

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Sean Walsh aka slw67

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RFergu6772 wrote:
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> I thought she was ok, on Picket Fences, but she got stale like the show toward
> the end.

That whole show got stale toward the end, so you can't really blame her
without blaming everyone else...

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POOKEY wrote in message ...

>I can't say that I do.....I doubt anyone else does either - she's horrible.
>
>Alison.


I will watch any georgeous red-head try to act.

min...@pangea.com

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Out of the 20 most unprofitable movies of 1997, Lauren Holly starred in THREE!

2. McHale's Navy (Cost $45 mil, Global Box Office $5.5 mil)
7. A Smile Like Yours (Cost $18 mil, GBO $4.4 mil)
18. Turbulence (Cost $55 mil, GBO $28.6 mil)

Andrew S Lee

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min...@pangea.com wrote:
: Out of the 20 most unprofitable movies of 1997, Lauren Holly starred in THREE!

: 2. McHale's Navy (Cost $45 mil, Global Box Office $5.5 mil)
: 7. A Smile Like Yours (Cost $18 mil, GBO $4.4 mil)
: 18. Turbulence (Cost $55 mil, GBO $28.6 mil)


Actually, I think Lauren Holly was in "Down Periscope" with Kelsey
Grammar. Debra Messing, much better looking and more talented, was in
McHale's Navy......and I'm a loser even for knowing that.

Cheryl

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I agree. She was fine in Beautiful Girls. I don't think she's really had
many roles that can show whether she can act or not. But I do know that she
can't hold a candle to a few others, who have proven time and again that
they truly can NOT act, and practically ruin any movie they are in:

Andie Mac Dowell (the worst of the worst)
Daryl Hannah
Melanie Griffith

Who keeps hiring those three, I'd like to know??

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Sara L Terrell

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Cheryl wrote

>Andie Mac Dowell (the worst of the worst)

Hallelujah! Finally a fellow comrade in the fight against Andie MacDowell.
For a particularly bad example see Green Card. "Do you know what you've
done, do you?" Imagine this being said with absolutly no inflection...

Sara

Clarice Fung

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And don't forget Nicole kidman

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In article <6fp2nf$3rf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, dpe...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Does anyone have any concrete evicence that Lauren Holly can act?

Does anyone have any concrete evidence that dpe...@hotmail.com makes this
judgment solely based on Holly's bustline, as opposed to Denise
Richards's?

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Actually, I thought Nicole was very good in Dead Calm, and great in To Die
For. She's much better than people give her credit for. (I never saw
Portrait of the Lady.) Andie MacDowell, on the other hand, is completely
irredeemable. And don't argue sex, lies & videotape to me. That was a
wooden performance if ever there was one. Her character was supposed to be
repressed (or wooden), so people equated that with good acting. Ugggghh.
If it weren't for the considerable charm of Hugh Grant as well as Kristin
Scott Thomas et al., there'd be no suffering through Four Weddings and a
Funeral. She's abominably bad. Just like Green Card. And Tarzan. And St.
Elmo's Fire. And . . . .

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>And don't forget Nicole kidman

>> Cheryl wrote

Clarice Fung

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Macdowell wasn't that bad actually, though I don't think she's charming,
nor do I think Kristin Scott Thomas is.

But Nicole Kidman was really really terrible in Far And Away. She was
just like a doll in The Portrait Of A Lady, awkward indeed.

Jann

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MPonte1006

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>Andie Mac Dowell (the worst of the worst)
>Daryl Hannah
>Melanie Griffith
>
>

What about Cybil Shepard?
Michael Ponte- Love Machine

MPonte1006

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>Does anyone have any concrete evidence that dpe...@hotmail.com makes this
>judgment solely based on Holly's bustline, as opposed to Denise
>Richards's?

Hey! Don't be steppin on my girl Denise!
Michael Ponte- Love Machine

lisa

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Cheryl wrote:
>
> Actually, I thought Nicole was very good in Dead Calm, and great in To Die
> For. She's much better than people give her credit for. (I never saw
> Portrait of the Lady.) Andie MacDowell, on the other hand, is completely
> irredeemable. And don't argue sex, lies & videotape to me. That was a
> wooden performance if ever there was one. Her character was supposed to be
> repressed (or wooden), so people equated that with good acting. Ugggghh.
> If it weren't for the considerable charm of Hugh Grant as well as Kristin
> Scott Thomas et al., there'd be no suffering through Four Weddings and a
> Funeral. She's abominably bad. Just like Green Card. And Tarzan. And St.
> Elmo's Fire. And . . . .
>
> Clarice Fung wrote in message <3520BE...@netvigator.com>...
> >And don't forget Nicole kidman
>
> >> Cheryl wrote
> >>
> >> >Andie Mac Dowell (the worst of the worst)
> >>
> >> Hallelujah! Finally a fellow comrade in the fight against Andie
> MacDowell.
> >> For a particularly bad example see Green Card. "Do you know what you've
> >> done, do you?" Imagine this being said with absolutly no inflection...
> >>
> >> Sara
> >


I agree...Andie MacDowell is one of the worst! I have to admit though I
love a few of the movies she's been in. Loved Four Weddings, Green
Card, Sex Lies and Videotape....all despite her though, not because of
her. As you mentioned, "wooden" is the perfect word to describe her.


lisa

lisa

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dpe...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Does anyone have any concrete evicence that Lauren Holly can act?
>
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she's awful....Turbulence is one of the worst movies I've ever seen -
largely due to her.

lisa

Bryan Moore

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She was great in Dumb Dumber.

:-)


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> Does anyone have any concrete evicence that Lauren Holly can act?
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.

Not while Madonna lives.

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dpe...@hotmail.com

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In article <cattekin-310...@cattekin.vip.best.com>,
catt...@best.com (Frisco Del Rosario) wrote:

>
> In article <6fp2nf$3rf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, dpe...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any concrete evicence that Lauren Holly can act?
>
> Does anyone have any concrete evidence that dpe...@hotmail.com makes this
> judgment solely based on Holly's bustline, as opposed to Denise
> Richards's?
>

Hey I take offense to that. My depreciation of Lauren Holly has nothing to do
with her bustline, which ain't too shabby anyway (did you see Down
Periscope?). If I judged actresses souly on the size of their bustlines, then
I would accuse Francis Mcdorman of being a lousy acgtress, which she's not.

IrishRose

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> > >> Hallelujah! Finally a fellow comrade in the fight against Andie
> > MacDowell.
> > >> For a particularly bad example see Green Card. "Do you know what you've
> > >> done, do you?" Imagine this being said with absolutly no
> > >> inflection...

Oh there was *some* inflection, just absolutely wrongly placed with no
pause between "done" and "do".

An unforgettable McDowell moment.

How she keeps getting hired for anything other than mannaquin work is
totally beyond me.

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lisa

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Bryan Moore wrote:
>
> She was great in Dumb Dumber.
>
> :-)
>
> dpe...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any concrete evicence that Lauren Holly can act?
> >
>

Now that I think of it, she wasn't too bad being the straight guy to Jim
Carrey in Dumb and Dumber, but I don't think she had to display any
great acting abilities in it.

lisa

dpe...@hotmail.com

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In article <rawiley....@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>,

Madonna is an actress?

Jon O'Connell

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Sounds like "Arnie can act really well because he played a mechanical
emotionless cyborg in Terminator 2 really well." i think.

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lisa wrote in message <352121...@usa.net>...


>Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> Actually, I thought Nicole was very good in Dead Calm, and great in To
Die
>> For. She's much better than people give her credit for. (I never saw
>> Portrait of the Lady.) Andie MacDowell, on the other hand, is completely
>> irredeemable. And don't argue sex, lies & videotape to me. That was a
>> wooden performance if ever there was one. Her character was supposed to
be
>> repressed (or wooden), so people equated that with good acting. Ugggghh.
>> If it weren't for the considerable charm of Hugh Grant as well as Kristin
>> Scott Thomas et al., there'd be no suffering through Four Weddings and a
>> Funeral. She's abominably bad. Just like Green Card. And Tarzan. And
St.
>> Elmo's Fire. And . . . .
>>
>> Clarice Fung wrote in message <3520BE...@netvigator.com>...
>> >And don't forget Nicole kidman
>>
>> >> Cheryl wrote
>> >>
>> >> >Andie Mac Dowell (the worst of the worst)
>> >>

>> >> Hallelujah! Finally a fellow comrade in the fight against Andie
>> MacDowell.
>> >> For a particularly bad example see Green Card. "Do you know what
you've
>> >> done, do you?" Imagine this being said with absolutly no inflection...
>> >>

Reina 616

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You obviously didn't see Cindy Crawford's movie -- or Rachel McLish's.

mor...@hotmail.com

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A tidbit of interesting WO trivia.. If you watch the scene when the
scarecrow gets set on fire, then they head down the yellow brick road, look
off to the left into the forest.. A guy climbs up a tree and looks like he
hangs himself........ Anyone have the skinny on this?

jbro...@depauw.edu

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In article <35211...@news.cyberway.com.sg>,

I didn't see Sex Lies and Videotape, but I saw just about everything else,
that's been mentioned, and I wouldn't call her wooden. She was good in
Groundhog's Day, I think she played that role very well, she seemed like a
caring and warm hearted woman that the role called for. And I think she was
excellent in Legend's of the Fall...her suicide scene is one of my favorites.

That is all, go forth with your lives,

silkx

Melissa "Budgie" Dirmeyer

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Clarice Fung wrote in message <3520BE...@netvigator.com>...
>And don't forget Nicole kidman


I will always support a georgeous red-head in their acting careers.

Alex Crouvier

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Even when they are snorting cokes and give up their kids for adoption?

Derek Janssen

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--No, just the other times, when nobody's looking and they're checking
to see if they've still got a little tuna salad on their chin, from
lunch...

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

Justin Siegel

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Alex Crouvier wrote:
>
> Melissa "Budgie" Dirmeyer wrote:
> >
> > Clarice Fung wrote in message <3520BE...@netvigator.com>...
> > >And don't forget Nicole kidman
> >
> > I will always support a georgeous red-head in their acting careers.
>
> Even when they are snorting cokes and give up their kids for adoption?

When I went to camp in 5th grade some kid taught me how to snort up cokes
though straws but they always started fizzing and it looked like I had
rabies.

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is bad: sun, milk, red meat, college"
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Derek Janssen

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Justin Siegel wrote:

>
> Alex Crouvier wrote:
> >
> > > I will always support a georgeous red-head in their acting careers.
> >
> > Even when they are snorting cokes and give up their kids for adoption?
>
> When I went to camp in 5th grade some kid taught me how to snort up cokes
> though straws but they always started fizzing and it looked like I had
> rabies.

John Lennon tried to snort a Coke in "A Hard Days Night", didn't he? Or
was that a Pepsi?...

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultanet.com
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(That's Alex--'E's a swine...)

Justin Siegel

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Derek Janssen wrote:
>
> Justin Siegel wrote:
> >
> > Alex Crouvier wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will always support a georgeous red-head in their acting careers.
> > >
> > > Even when they are snorting cokes and give up their kids for adoption?
> >
> > When I went to camp in 5th grade some kid taught me how to snort up cokes
> > though straws but they always started fizzing and it looked like I had
> > rabies.
>
> John Lennon tried to snort a Coke in "A Hard Days Night", didn't he? Or
> was that a Pepsi?...

Damn that Bob Dylan... turning the Beatles onto caffeinated beverages;
what was he thinking?!


>
> Derek Janssen
> dja...@ultanet.com
> -------
> (That's Alex--'E's a swine...)

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In article <6ft1ig$h6g$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> A tidbit of interesting WO trivia.. If you watch the scene when the
> scarecrow gets set on fire, then they head down the yellow brick road, look
> off to the left into the forest.. A guy climbs up a tree and looks like he
> hangs himself........ Anyone have the skinny on this?

Congratulate yourself! You must be the first person on this Earth to notice
that. I am sending you your $20.00 cash money prize in the mail today.


Sincerely,

Tris Orendorff

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China Blue

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Alex Crouvier <troj...@geocities.com> wrote in article
<35231B...@geocities.com>...

> Melissa "Budgie" Dirmeyer wrote:
> >
> > Clarice Fung wrote in message <3520BE...@netvigator.com>...
> > >And don't forget Nicole kidman
> >
> > I will always support a georgeous red-head in their acting careers.
>
> Even when they are snorting cokes and give up their kids for adoption?

I nominate JESSICA LANGE, GWYNETH PALTROW and JENNIFER LOVE HEWITT
Lauren Holly is Myrna Loy compared to them


Goom

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Derek Janssen wrote:
> > Even when they are snorting cokes and give up their kids for adoption?
>
> --No, just the other times, when nobody's looking and they're checking
> to see if they've still got a little tuna salad on their chin, from
> lunch...

Derek-

Your imagery is giving me a chubby!

Regards,
J. Stephen

Goom

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jbro...@depauw.edu wrote:
> > >
> > >I agree...Andie MacDowell is one of the worst! I have to admit though I
>
> I didn't see Sex Lies and Videotape, but I saw just about everything else,
> that's been mentioned, and I wouldn't call her wooden. She was good in
> Groundhog's Day, I think she played that role very well, she seemed like a
> caring and warm hearted woman that the role called for. And I think she was
> excellent in Legend's of the Fall...her suicide scene is one of my favorites.
> silkx

I don't recall Andie MacDowell being in Legends of the Fall. Perhaps
you have her confused with Julia Ormond?

Regards,
J. Stephen

M. Whittier

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In article <6ft1ig$h6g$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mor...@hotmail.com wrote:

> A tidbit of interesting WO trivia.. If you watch the scene when the
>scarecrow gets set on fire, then they head down the yellow brick road, look
>off to the left into the forest.. A guy climbs up a tree and looks like he
>hangs himself........ Anyone have the skinny on this?
>


Has it been ten minutes ALREADY?

M. Whittier
http://www1.minn.net/~mwittier

mor...@hotmail.com

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In article <6fuqkj$smk$1...@nntp1.uunet.ca>,

tr...@remove-me.inasec.ca (Tris Orendorff) wrote:
>
> In article <6ft1ig$h6g$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > A tidbit of interesting WO trivia.. If you watch the scene when the
> > scarecrow gets set on fire, then they head down the yellow brick road, look
> > off to the left into the forest.. A guy climbs up a tree and looks like he
> > hangs himself........ Anyone have the skinny on this?
>
> Congratulate yourself! You must be the first person on this Earth to notice
> that. I am sending you your $20.00 cash money prize in the mail today.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tris Orendorff
>
>OK, Smartass, I wasn't commenting on the find,,, It's been around forever, my question was DO YOU KNOW THE STORY BEHIND IT??????????
Jeez, at least read the paragraph before you make a snide comment!!

Lara Kiré

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In article <mwittier-020...@News.Minn.Net>, mwit...@minn.net
(M. Whittier) wrote:

> In article <6ft1ig$h6g$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > A tidbit of interesting WO trivia.. If you watch the scene when the
> >scarecrow gets set on fire, then they head down the yellow brick road, look
> >off to the left into the forest.. A guy climbs up a tree and looks like he
> >hangs himself........ Anyone have the skinny on this?

There's a couple of spots where workmen were caught on film in the
background. (Remember this was 1939 and the movie industry was still very
young). For the moving trees, for instance, workmen had to climb into a
slit in the back, and make the branches and mouths of the trees move, in
sync with the voice. They got so hot in there that they were continually
climbing out during filming, for fresh air. The guy who appears to hang
himself may have been trying to adjust one of the trees, or to help a
fellow workman to get out.

Lara

China Blue

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Goom <justin....@marriott.com> wrote in article
<352325...@marriott.com>...

Julia Ormond - now there's an actress with class, talent and range.
Someone who deserves to be working for a very long time.
Andie MacDowell - A lot of the roles she decides on don't suit her
abilities. She was wonderful in 'Sex Lies and Videotape' and 'Short Cuts',
but was incredibly wooden in 'Deception' (aka. Ruby Cairo) and 'Greencard'.

Jason

Clarice Fung

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Anyway it was lucky that Macdowell wasn't the one to play Veronique in
The Double Life Of Veronique (La Double Vie de Veronique)....a contract
had been prepared. That was a big mistake made by Kieslowski, how could
he cast her, for such a down-on-earth role?

Jann
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Michael McCoy

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jbro...@depauw.edu wrote:

> I didn't see Sex Lies and Videotape, but I saw just about everything else,
> that's been mentioned, and I wouldn't call her wooden. She was good in
> Groundhog's Day, I think she played that role very well, she seemed like a
> caring and warm hearted woman that the role called for. And I think she was
> excellent in Legend's of the Fall...her suicide scene is one of my favorites.
>

Not sure whether you've got the movie or the actress mixed up but Andie McDowell
wasn't in Legends of the Fall. It was Julia Ormond. I also don't remember a
suicide scene in that one.--
Michael McCoy
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T. Ha

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China Blue <stimpy//REMOVETHIS//@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

: Julia Ormond - now there's an actress with class, talent and range.

: Someone who deserves to be working for a very long time.

eh?

Thurston

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> la...@cromnet.net.au (Lara Kiré) writes:

> There's a couple of spots where workmen were caught on film in the
> background. (Remember this was 1939 and the movie industry was
> still very young).

+40 is "very young"?

> For the moving trees, for instance, workmen had to climb into a
> slit in the back, and make the branches and mouths of the trees move, in
> sync with the voice. They got so hot in there that they were continually
> climbing out during filming, for fresh air. The guy who appears to hang
> himself may have been trying to adjust one of the trees, or to help a
> fellow workman to get out.

So, how was Barney the Dino actualized in 1998?

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China Blue

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Michael McCoy <mmck...@imsnet.net> wrote in article
<3523A22B...@imsnet.net>...

> jbro...@depauw.edu wrote:
>
> > I didn't see Sex Lies and Videotape, but I saw just about everything
else,
> > that's been mentioned, and I wouldn't call her wooden. She was good in
> > Groundhog's Day, I think she played that role very well, she seemed
like a
> > caring and warm hearted woman that the role called for. And I think she
was
> > excellent in Legend's of the Fall...her suicide scene is one of my
favorites.
> >
>
> Not sure whether you've got the movie or the actress mixed up but Andie
McDowell
> wasn't in Legends of the Fall. It was Julia Ormond. I also don't remember
a
> suicide scene in that one.--
> Michael McCoy
> mmck...@imsnet.net

Her character shot herself near the end of the film

China Blue

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T. Ha <tha@#tufts.edu> wrote in article <6g0d7u$65c$3...@news3.tufts.edu>...

She deserves to be a recognised, respected actress
Sorry if it didn't make sense :-) (It didn't)

jbro...@depauw.edu

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In article <352325...@marriott.com>,

justin....@marriott.com wrote:
>
> jbro...@depauw.edu wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I agree...Andie MacDowell is one of the worst! I have to admit though
I
> >
> > I didn't see Sex Lies and Videotape, but I saw just about everything else,
> > that's been mentioned, and I wouldn't call her wooden. She was good in
> > Groundhog's Day, I think she played that role very well, she seemed like a
> > caring and warm hearted woman that the role called for. And I think she
was
> > excellent in Legend's of the Fall...her suicide scene is one of my
favorites.
> > silkx
>
> I don't recall Andie MacDowell being in Legends of the Fall. Perhaps
> you have her confused with Julia Ormond?
>
> Regards,
> J. Stephen
>

You might be right, I always get them confused...that movie and A River Runs
Thru It, there kind of interchangeable in my mind.

silkx

KALKevin

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Well, I don't think the worst actress in movies is Lauren Holly (who was pretty
good in "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story") or Andie MacDowell (who is actually
quite good in "sex, lies and videotape," "Green Card" and "Four Weddings and
Funeral"). No, I'd have to save that distinction for Melanie Griffith. Who
can forget her absurd performances in "Shining Through" (we're really supposed
to believe she's a brilliant spy?!!!!), "Milk Money" and "A Stranger Among Us."
If she's not the worst actress, she's at least the worst ever to receive an
Oscar nomination (come on, she wasn't wasn't acting when she played the dumb
blonde in "Working Girl"...that was type casting!).

Paul J. Adams

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dpe...@hotmail.com wrote in article <6fscs7$vj6$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

> Madonna is an actress?

Hey, she's even been in a Woody Allen movie!

FRAJM

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>dpe...@hotmail.com wrote in article <6fscs7$vj6$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
>> Madonna is an actress?
>
>Hey, she's even been in a Woody Allen movie!
>
>

Please note Allen edited out most of her lines.


Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
http://members.aol.com/frajm/
"All over the room throats were being strained and minds broadened."
-- P. G. Wodehouse, Piccadilly Jim

Steve Kraus

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Lauren Holly is quite good in "No Looking Back", the
new Edward Burns film. For that matter, so is Jon Bon Jovi!

Goom

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KALKevin wrote:
>
> Well, I don't think the worst actress in movies is Lauren Holly (who was pretty
> good in "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story") or Andie MacDowell (who is actually
> quite good in "sex, lies and videotape," "Green Card" and "Four Weddings and
> Funeral"). No, I'd have to save that distinction for Melanie Griffith. Who
> can forget her absurd performances in "Shining Through" (we're really supposed
> to believe she's a brilliant spy?!!!!)

As I recall, the point was that her character was *not* a brilliant
spy. On the other hand, I have to agree with your estimation of her
acting abilities...

Regards,
J. Stephen

PAUL ADAMS

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FRAJM <fr...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199804032315...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...

> >> Madonna is an actress?
> >
> >Hey, she's even been in a Woody Allen movie!
> >
> >
>
> Please note Allen edited out most of her lines.

Duly noted. She may not be a good actress. She may not have done a
remarkable job in Shadows and Fog. But hey! She's been in a Woody Allen
movie! Therefore, she's probably an actress.


FRAJM

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"PAUL ADAMS" <ada...@worldnet.att.net> writes about Madonna:

>Duly noted. She may not be a good actress. She may not have done a
>remarkable job in Shadows and Fog. But hey! She's been in a Woody Allen
>movie! Therefore, she's probably an actress.

Actually, I think she could be, or could have been, a good actress in some
limited way given a director who can make her behave and the right property
and cast. Probably, one of Allen's greatest strengths is his ability to cast;
perhaps he saw her potential when he signed her but wasn't able to make her
realize that potential. Just a guess, mind you.

My favorite Madonna roles of the ones I've seen: _A League of Their Own_,
_Desperately Seeking Susan_, and _Dick Tracy_.

The worst: _Body of Evidence_, _Shanghai Surprise_, and _Who's That Girl?_

FWIW.

cfa...@clarku.edu

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In article <199804052002...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
Heavens NO!!!... Bridgette Fonda

China Blue

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cfa...@clarku.edu wrote in article <6g9m6m$6kr$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...


> In article <199804052002...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> fr...@aol.com (FRAJM) wrote:
> >
> > "PAUL ADAMS" <ada...@worldnet.att.net> writes about Madonna:
> >
> > >Duly noted. She may not be a good actress. She may not have done a
> > >remarkable job in Shadows and Fog. But hey! She's been in a Woody
Allen
> > >movie! Therefore, she's probably an actress.
> >
> > Actually, I think she could be, or could have been, a good actress in
some
> > limited way given a director who can make her behave and the right
property
> > and cast. Probably, one of Allen's greatest strengths is his ability to
> cast;
> > perhaps he saw her potential when he signed her but wasn't able to make
her
> > realize that potential. Just a guess, mind you.
> >
> > My favorite Madonna roles of the ones I've seen: _A League of Their
Own_,
> > _Desperately Seeking Susan_, and _Dick Tracy_.
> >
> > The worst: _Body of Evidence_, _Shanghai Surprise_, and _Who's That
Girl?_
> >
> > FWIW.

Gracious! What about 'Evita'! This is Madonna's tour-de-force!

I honestly think she's a pretty good actress - although I agree with 'Body
of Evidence' - the majority of the film was appauling, but I remember an
interesting scene - the one in which Rebecca's in the car with Willem Dafoe
after being whisked away from the courtroom. There was dramatic tension
and great acting in this particular scene, and the highlight of the film.
But Madonna was, and still is capable of so much more.

In 'Who's That Girl?', Madonna showed her great comedic timing, although
the part (and the entire film) was underwritten. She gave a great
performance in 'Dangerous Game' too.

:-)


A. Sears

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<snip>

> Heavens NO!!!... Bridgette Fonda

I used to think Bridget Fonda was pretty bad too, but I thought she
redeemed herself in _Jackie Brown_ with her tormenting of "Lou-issssss"
in the parking lot.

I'm not saying she should have been nominated for an Oscar or anything,
just that she is capable of turning in a decent performance at least
once -- much the way Brad Pitt redeemed himself from the "worthless"
category with his _12 Monkeys_ performance.

My own personal nominations for the worst actresses in modern films:

Jennifer Connelly (Looks great, but conveys no personality whatsoever)

Sondra Locke (Hasn't worked much lately, but her performances in
various Clint
Eastwood vehicles of the '70's-80's were uniformly execrable)

Andie Macdowell (Even less interesting than Jennifer Connelly, if
possible. The
weakest spot in _Four Weddings and a Funeral_ ... I just
could not suspend my disbelief in any sort of chemistry
between her character and Hugh Grant's)

Juliette Lewis (Can't act her way out of a paper bag, although in
fairness
I must admit that she gives me major wood. Several friends
report that she has a similar effect on them. This in no
way excuses her lack of acting talent, but it does make a
strong case for nominating her as the female equivalent of
Keanu Reeves)

Jennifer Tilly (Yes, _Bound_ was great, but somebody please do
something about
*that voice*.)

Sean Young (Very hot in _Blade Runner_, but still pretty wooden. Her
role
in _No Way Out_ was another case of no charisma, no chemistry,
just too hard to believe that the male lead would fall that
hard for her ... although the male lead *was* Kevin Costner,
who has zero personality thing down pretty good himself.
Now that she's found a niche in self-parody, however, maybe
we can give her a bit of a break.)

lisa

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China Blue wrote:

>
> Julia Ormond - now there's an actress with class, talent and range.
> Someone who deserves to be working for a very long time.

> Andie MacDowell - A lot of the roles she decides on don't suit her
> abilities. She was wonderful in 'Sex Lies and Videotape' and 'Short Cuts',
> but was incredibly wooden in 'Deception' (aka. Ruby Cairo) and 'Greencard'.
>
> Jason


I don't think Julia Ormond is a good actress. I think she's very
beautiful, but she reminds me of Demi Moore with that one tear falling
down her cheek in every scene... I didn't like her in Sabrina, Legends
of the Fall, or First Knight. I thought she gave dull performances and
I never really found myself liking any of her characters.

lisa

RFergu6772

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Andie McDowell has never given a performance that I enjoyed. She comes across
as ridiculous to me.

elaine
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But make the absolute best of what God made."
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M. Whittier

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In article <lara-02049...@dy05.marconi.dialix.com.au>,
la...@cromnet.net.au (Lara Kiré) wrote:

>In article <mwittier-020...@News.Minn.Net>, mwit...@minn.net
>(M. Whittier) wrote:
>
>> In article <6ft1ig$h6g$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > A tidbit of interesting WO trivia.. If you watch the scene when the
>> >scarecrow gets set on fire, then they head down the yellow brick road, look
>> >off to the left into the forest.. A guy climbs up a tree and looks like he
>> >hangs himself........ Anyone have the skinny on this?
>

>There's a couple of spots where workmen were caught on film in the
>background. (Remember this was 1939 and the movie industry was still very

>young). For the moving trees, for instance, workmen had to climb into a


>slit in the back, and make the branches and mouths of the trees move, in
>sync with the voice. They got so hot in there that they were continually
>climbing out during filming, for fresh air. The guy who appears to hang
>himself may have been trying to adjust one of the trees, or to help a
>fellow workman to get out.
>

>Lara

I most decidedly did _not_ write any of the above. Learn to fucking
quote correctly, if you are going to post. And read the FAQ, for God's
sake. This is the hoariest story of all time.

M. Whittier
http://www1.minn.net/~mwittier

Jeffrey Davis

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RFergu6772 wrote:
>
> Andie McDowell has never given a performance that I enjoyed. She comes across
> as ridiculous to me.

Too bad.

--
Jeffrey Davis <da...@ca.uky.edu> Lots Available

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