wow, Hitlers Fallshirmjager had to be Waffen SS trained, clearly a superior fighting force
LIBERATOR
Out of the thousands if not hundred thousands of 3rd Reich videos I've
watched this one ranks in the top 5. The music is perfect but the
color footage especially at 1:02 which shows the true human warm
friendly persona of the elite soldiers of the 3rd Reich not regularily
used has been self-defeating for those that know the truth is
innocence and put forward effort to vindicate Adolf Hitler, Germany
and the 3rd Reich as a whole.
On a quality review of these men they're clearly Waffen SS trained,
hell in some instances they look more wicked than the Waffen SS. There
is a different type of training that put the Waffen SS ahead of all
other militaries in the world which made the Waffen SS and agreed upon
by other rival nations superior to all, most notably was General
Patton who was infatuated with them.
It's their total awareness that was trained to them, they act like a
hive mind but with no self-sacrifice of original identity, they are
linked and may not even have known it psychically. The awareness I
speak of required absolutely complete absolute honesty within the
Reich and their commanders, of which only through proven time was this
honesty proven and trusted, of which all men simultaneously are exact
to the absolute facts of which unison in action - very aggressive
attuned action. In Allied forces the soldiers were not let in on the
truth, in fact they were used - exploited - and by this fact they were
not a united in spirit force, that is one advantage the Waffen SS had
over the allies. They never before witnessed a society so perfect as
Hitler had setup for them, and thus they were united in this
understanding and thus along with the superior training this superior
uniting spirit made them dominant on the battlefield, but the spirit
alone wouldn't work, advanced intelligence in understanding warfare
taught in training sealed the absolute of them being superior.
Examples of this advanced understanding of the gaming of an opponent
in warfare is the trademark of Waffen SS/Fallshirmjager, they looked
upon warfare as a sport not a fear based situation. They were taught
psychologically to displace fear with the truth of what was happening,
their superior society of high quality living was being threatened. In
interviews online you can find Waffen SS soldiers stating "fear never
occurred with us, it never crossed our mind to be scared, we were
there to fight and this was our primary concern". Spielberg showed in
Saving Private Ryan how scared allied soldiers were by them barfing in
the landing-crafts. Its because they were not there spiritually, they
didn't want to fight but believed they had to, but didn't even know
why they had to.
The superior all around intelligence of the Waffen SS is shown at :41
seconds, you ever see such intelligence of how to handle a heavy
weapon when you're about to crash to the ground? In the US Army, the
morons would have the weapon dropped on its own because they can't
think dynamically as shown by the German, then the time to retrieve
the weapon, free it from its harness and be ready for battle is 5
minutes longer than what the Fallshirmjager could do because of the
superior thinking. At 1:02 we have rare free interaction footage of
Fallshirmjager in color, I've never seen such humanistic coverage of
any Nazi military, It needs to be a standard method in reversing the
defamation against the 3rd Reich (any video providers copycat this).
At 1:36 3 men run under fire along the side of a building, see how
they gapped their unity and how automatic it was?
And lastly, we're told Hitler invaded Greece, yet here we have the
Greek president welcoming the German commander with a smile and the
German commander is saluting him with respect. Clearly, the reported
history of the Fallshirmjager being beaten at anytime was not true and
reported history re: WW2 is also not true.
Hollywood needs to make favorable movies to the 3rd Reich,
specifically the great men that were in service to Hitler (Waffen SS).
Also, when Hitler took command of the USA, UK, USSR by help of
"Martians" brokering the deal, all US special forces were trained by
the Waffen SS. John Wayne indicated this in "The Green Berets" with
the Germans being the elite Green Berets.
deem...@aol.com
The Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe generally detested the SS.
LIBERATOR
> The Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe generally detested the SS.
Didn't you read my part about the history, donut head?
Lets see, lets try math - algebra - on this claim you have. Hitler &
Goering were like brothers, Goering knew Hitler was literally so
intimate with the SS becasue they represented him in all his qualities
and personality, and Goering knew they were superior in capacity of
which Goering too wanted also to have superiority in land forces he
might need. So that Goering is so intimate with Hitler, the A x B
doesn't equal Z as you insist it equals C, that C is Hitler extended
his Waffen SS resources to Goering for his Fallshirmjager, so fluidity
in truth is proven A x B = C. Heh, that's not even algebra.
Any fool that watches the video and then watches a Waffen SS video can
see they're exact in training only difference being the uniform.
LIBERATOR
At 2:13 - 2:15 I just noticed (always see things after I post) Waffen
SS guys below and Fallshirmjager above in the MG nest. Looks like an
overlap of forces, someone was rescuing someone? Waffen SS came to
Fallshirmjagers rescue or vice versa? Looks like Russia.
LIBERATOR
You have to be setting me up favorably in that you secretly like me.
Here they are, the LEGENDS of BATTLE DOMINANCE. The Waffen SS and
closing the video is a very intimate gathering with Fallshirmjager,
yet you said they were rivals?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a0XsI8Mh4A
Very clearly there is something very different in presence - powerful
- about these men. I've never seen this footage anywhere before.
Carolina Reb
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBzl3iYG9sM
>
> Out of the thousands if not hundred thousands of 3rd Reich videos I've
> watched this one ranks in the top 5.
Great war footage, as always! Thanks, Liberator!
LIBERATOR
Like I said it's time Hollywood starts making movies to fix history...
you have any connections please send the message... :)
A Moose in Love
> The Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe generally detested the SS.
'Wehrmacht' refers to the German armed forces. The Waffen SS were
part of the Wehrmacht. If you are thinking of regArmy, they were
referred to as the 'Heer'.
LIBERATOR
I know this but because everyone else doesn't I go along wtih the
errant convention. The Wehrmacht were everything but the Waffen SS and
Fallshirmjager.
RichA
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBzl3iYG9sM
The only time any of the allied forces could beat the Germans was when
the Germans were massively out-manned or out-gunned. One on one, if
the Germans could have kept up the population of troops and arms, they
would have taken over the world. There will likely never be a better
fighting force, even the Romans weren't as good.
deem...@aol.com
Then maybe the dipshits shouldn't have tried to take on the whole
world........
Keith Willshaw
A strange claim to make on rec.aviation.military.
In 1940 the Luftwaffe handily outnumbered the RAF yet
they lost the Battle of Britain big time..
Keith
The Starmaker
Why not take on the 'whole world', ...isn't that what the U.S. is doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST86JM1RPl0
I got a good idea, lets bomb saudia arabia and take all their oil...
Just go in there and take them out.
The Starmaker
deem...@aol.com
> deemsb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > On May 4, 7:02 pm, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 4, 3:25 pm, LIBERATOR <markz...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBzl3iYG9sM
>
> > > The only time any of the allied forces could beat the Germans was when
> > > the Germans were massively out-manned or out-gunned. One on one, if
> > > the Germans could have kept up the population of troops and arms, they
> > > would have taken over the world. There will likely never be a better
> > > fighting force, even the Romans weren't as good.
>
> > Then maybe the dipshits shouldn't have tried to take on the whole
> > world........
>
> Why not take on the 'whole world', ...isn't that what the U.S. is doing?
Uh, hardly.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST86JM1RPl0
>
> I got a good idea, lets bomb saudia arabia and take all their oil...
>
> Just go in there and take them out.
Is anyone stopping you?
Peter Skelton
That's rather obviously nonsense. There are a very large number of
surface engagements in which heavy German ships ran like scalded cats
from much inferior opposition, sometimes taking damage in the process.
There's the Battle of Britain, one can argue about the relative force
sizes, but the Germans were larger in numbers and defeated.
On land, Germany's strategy seemed to be to engage opponents with more
resources in battles of attrition, not one of the top ten winning moves.
It does, however, let the apologists whine about outnumbering and
outgunning.
--
Peter
The Starmaker
I said, "let's".
george
> That's rather obviously nonsense. There are a very large number of
> surface engagements in which heavy German ships ran like scalded cats
> from much inferior opposition, sometimes taking damage in the process.
> There's the Battle of Britain, one can argue about the relative force
> sizes, but the Germans were larger in numbers and defeated.
>
Battle of the River Plate comes to mind
deem...@aol.com
I'm sure you can find at least one who will join you.
CRUSADE!!!!!!!!
Rich
9d73-38e...@b35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
Well, they didn't, but they should have realized what would happen when
the Americans geared up for war and put 150 million people into
production of war machines.
tomcervo
Bullshit
LIBERATOR
I agree. It was like for every Waffen SS man they'd take out 15 enemy
men. The problem was they still had more than enough men where if that
ratio was 30 for every 1 Waffen SS man, the allies still had a
surplus. The amazing stories of the far outnumbered Waffen SS pushing
back 10 times the amount of Red soldiers are many, many books are
exact to each other unintentionally in telling the stories. Not only
did it happen once, but a back & forth tug of war went on & on over
the same land and allthewhile the numeric ratios were worse & worse
for the SS, but they did not falter, due to the expertise and mastery
of warfare. I fully intend to blackmale all Hollywood scoundrels
plotting against me to make movies in tribute to the Waffen SS and the
amazing feats they performed. On the western front it was demonstrated
at Caen, & others, where the allied landings were stuck for over a
month, they didn't move for 30+ days due to the Waffen SS and again
this was stories of the allies being pushed back by inferior numbers,
it's funny how we never hear about this.
LIBERATOR
Hitler never intended for the war to go on beyond Poland, he believed
the British would want to stop fighting after Poland but he was wrong.
CUNTICA
in North - Eastern Europe & Italy; by the time the Canucks got through
with therm, they ran like chickens!
Now, piss off, little man & be damn quick about it!
CUNTICA
(& the Canuckds fought them in Sicily & N.E. Europe on the Rhine &
kicked their Nazi arses!)!
tomcervo
>
> I agree. It was like for every Waffen SS man they'd take out 15 enemy
> men.
And even twice that many women and children. But the ratio dropped
precipitously when the men were armed.
Schiffner
Naw, christians had their turn at it, now it's the muslims turn, then
it'll be the jews turn rinse and repeat. IIRC it's a couple hundred
year cycle.
frank
Go read what they did to the SA. Then read who was in the SA. You
know, killing your own...
frank
Ever heard of propaganda? Naw, they never lied.....
frank
Name the drops the Germans used paratroopers for. Then look up when
Adolf refused to drop them out of perfectly good airplanes.
frank
Funny, the Romans got England, all the way to Scotland. Even got up
into the Reich...
frank
You know we get most of our oil from the US, then Mexico and Canada,
ja?
frank
TSA. they took his waterpistol.
frank
Let Trump lead them...
Moramarth
A load of crap.
How come this ends up as a 100+ post thread with reasonable people
trying to explain reality to mental defectives who can't accept
logical arguements in case their tiny universes implode?
>
> Out of the thousands if not hundred thousands of 3rd Reich videos I've
> watched
Well, now we know what rotted your brain...
> On a quality review of these men they're clearly Waffen SS trained,
> hell in some instances they look more wicked than the Waffen SS.
Nope, the Falschirmjager were Luftwaffe, and proud of it. Late in the
war the Waffen SS did try to copy them, but it was a limited effort.
As for "wicked", the
Falschirmjager were tough troops and well-respected by their opponents
(or at least by the Brits) but generally behaved in a decent manner,
in contrast to the SS. SS killed prisoners, while at Cassino
surrendered Falschirmjager voluntarily assisted in recovering *Allied*
casualties under fire. At least until recently, one of their number
was an active, and popular, member of a British Legion club. Note
that Goebbel's stepson (who detested the Nazis) opted to serve his
country in the Falschirmjager rather than the Waffen SS.
If you must watch Nazi-era movies, check out Riefenstahl's "Olympia",
when the teams march into the arena - the German civilian competitors
(and SS - and the French!) give Hitler the Nazi salute, but the
Wehrmacht (including the Luftwaffe) give proper military salutes - no
stiff right arm crap for them.
>
There's a a bit in the "Mahabharata" where Krishna essentially advises
Arjuna that the Good Guys should obey the rules, unless this would
mean the Bad Guys would win, in which case fuck the rules. That's
essentially what happened any time we fought the Germans - eventually
we had to compromise our principals, otherwise whatever brand of shit
they were following at the time came out on top.
>
Schiffner
> TSA. they took his waterpistol.-
Anyone who fold to the Terrible Security Assasins...doesn't deserve to
fly. The day they formed the TSA...I quit flying commercial. IF I go
overseas again I'll be taking a boat...likely out of someplace like
mexico, quatamala, canada. You know some other 3rd world country.
Keith Willshaw
> On May 4, 8:25 pm, LIBERATOR <markz...@ymail.com> wrote:
> A load of crap.
> How come this ends up as a 100+ post thread with reasonable people
> trying to explain reality to mental defectives who can't accept
> logical arguements in case their tiny universes implode?
>>
>> Out of the thousands if not hundred thousands of 3rd Reich videos
>> I've watched
> Well, now we know what rotted your brain...
>> On a quality review of these men they're clearly Waffen SS trained,
>> hell in some instances they look more wicked than the Waffen SS.
> Nope, the Falschirmjager were Luftwaffe, and proud of it. Late in the
> war the Waffen SS did try to copy them, but it was a limited effort.
> As for "wicked", the
> Falschirmjager were tough troops and well-respected by their opponents
> (or at least by the Brits) but generally behaved in a decent manner,
> in contrast to the SS. SS killed prisoners, while at Cassino
> surrendered Falschirmjager voluntarily assisted in recovering *Allied*
> casualties under fire. At least until recently, one of their number
> was an active, and popular, member of a British Legion club.
I met one at a rememberance day parade in Derbyshire many years
ago. He had been wounded and taken prisoner at Monte Cassino
and as POW had been working on local farms where developed
an attachment to a local girl.
After the war he settled in Chesterfield and always attended remberance
day services wearing his beret. The other WW2 veterans there knew and
liked the man as did I. He used to get very angry about how his comrades
had been sacrificied by 'those Nazi gangsters'
Keith
deem...@aol.com
> On May 4, 8:25 pm, LIBERATOR <markz...@ymail.com> wrote:
> A load of crap.
> How come this ends up as a 100+ post thread with reasonable people
> trying to explain reality to mental defectives who can't accept
> logical arguements in case their tiny universes implode?
The crazies need to be regularly smacked around or some ignorant
fool might actually believe their drivel.
Schiffner
hear hear! Well it's that or we just put all those crazies to sleep.
A Moose in Love
You sound like a Nazi.
LIBERATOR
> A load of crap.
> How come this ends up as a 100+ post thread with reasonable people
> trying to explain reality to mental defectives who can't accept
> logical arguements in case their tiny universes implode?
>
> > Out of the thousands if not hundred thousands of 3rd Reich videos I've
> > watched
>
> Well, now we know what rotted your brain...> On a quality review of these men they're clearly Waffen SS trained,
> > hell in some instances they look more wicked than the Waffen SS.
>
> Nope, the Falschirmjager were Luftwaffe, and proud of it. Late in the
> war the Waffen SS did try to copy them, but it was a limited effort.
Wrong. Name the men that trained the Falshirmjager (Fallshirmjager)
and their WW1 units and commanders. I can do this for the Waffen SS so
you need to do it for the Fallshirmjager.
> As for "wicked", the
> Falschirmjager were tough troops and well-respected by their opponents
> (or at least by the Brits) but generally behaved in a decent manner,
> in contrast to the SS.
WRONG. "The SS:Hitlers Instrument of Terror" British officer Lt. Col.
John Frost after Allied rescued him from being prisoner who stated
(not exact words - from my memory) "We thought they would treat us
barbarically and we feared for the worse, we heard the storys of
beatings and mass execution and torture, even being shot in the back,
but none of this was true, I found them to be very concerned for our
well being and even comforting with a sense of chivalry" - this on
PG177 with a photo of two British prisoners, and SS all around them,
but facing away and not watching the British prisoners, and these men
were not restrained and had everything except their guns. They were
free to walk & wander.
> SS killed prisoners, while at Cassino
Didn't happen. Are you a moron that believes Hitler died in 1945?
> surrendered Falschirmjager voluntarily assisted in recovering *Allied*
> casualties under fire. At least until recently, one of their number
> was an active, and popular, member of a British Legion club. Note
> that Goebbel's stepson (who detested the Nazis) opted to serve his
> country in the Falschirmjager rather than the Waffen SS.
You're proving to be a bigger moron as I read on.
> If you must watch Nazi-era movies, check out Riefenstahl's "Olympia",
> when the teams march into the arena - the German civilian competitors
> (and SS - and the French!) give Hitler the Nazi salute, but the
> Wehrmacht (including the Luftwaffe) give proper military salutes - no
> stiff right arm crap for them.
Show us your data by video or photo.
> There's a a bit in the "Mahabharata" where Krishna essentially advises
> Arjuna that the Good Guys should obey the rules, unless this would
> mean the Bad Guys would win, in which case fuck the rules. That's
> essentially what happened any time we fought the Germans - eventually
> we had to compromise our principals, otherwise whatever brand of shit
> they were following at the time came out on top.
We have "Hitlers Jewish Soldiers" and many free Jews within Nazi
Germany contrary to the history we've been told the false history that
you utilize for your arguments. Did you know that the Jews were still
publishing a newspaper throughout Hitlers reign, and even during the
war, and these were Jews that hated Hitler, but Hitler let it go,
because they weren't part of any plot or conspiracy traceable to
Communism. The Newspaper was called "Judisches Nachrichtenblatt",
http://www2.library.yale.edu/judaica/micjud2001.html and I discovered
this in a book called "The Holocaust Chronicles" - a
book that fully supports the holocaust as being true, yet went &
admitted that Hitler allowed a Jewish newspaper to continue in German
society, operated fully by Jews for Jews, and remain un-threatened by
him. Now how on earth would Jews be allowed to continue a newspaper in
Germany, if they're all being exterminated and have been gathered up
at night under an event named "night of long knives"? Clearly the
"Long knives" didn't happen it's a fabricated stratagem.
Closing the post I include another Waffen SS video showing them to be
quite loving humans. This video is also amazing in that it includes
training snippets and what I've never seen before is them teaching
young girls to ride horses.
LIBERATOR
Liar liar pants on fire, you're so obvious to be a liar your story is
so hollywoodish, I've seen this film many times but can't remember the
name. What was the name of this "Person" you met? Lets see if any
actual documentation exists for his presence.
LIBERATOR
Kirsten Dunst is freaking hot.
Dan
But YOU are the one excusing the Nazis for starting the war.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
LIBERATOR
I don't even need to spend the time. You're relying on fabricated data
by the 3rd Reich, you're a dupe exactly what they wanted. You're too
dumb to figure out that Hitler would have had to fight with Goering to
have the history you're citing as legitimate. Hitler and Goering never
fought on anything about anything. I don't have time to spend on
brainless persons such as yourself. It was that easy to figure out
soley on the "Hitler Goering" relationship yet you failed completely.
NEMO
Goering in the last days of the war because H. Goering usurped Adolf
Hitler & tried to assume command of the Third Reich as A. Hitler was
trapped in Berlin.
Learn/read your history, you ignoramous!
LIBERATOR
Liar Liar Pants On Fire!!
LIBERATOR
LIES LIES LIES, and these lies weren't made up by the allies, they
were madeup by Hitler and the 3rd Reich.
You're a dupe by Hitlers duping. Hitler started the CIA, NASA, flew to
the moon in 1944 in a Haunebu 2 flying saucer, he flew to Mars the
same year and it was Martians that brokered the end of WW2 by Hitler
agreeing to their "lies" being given to the public as truths, in
exchange for this demonization of his legacy he was granted control of
the USA, USSR, UK, Argentina, Chile, South Africa, France and Europe
as a whole, including Egypt and Palestine. Hitler was in control of it
all by everyone being duped that he was dead and a monster of
genocide.
See how that worked? If you believe Hitler murdered 6 million Jews
would you believe he was in control of the USA, USSR and UK?
A Moose in Love
Have I ever suggested that Nazi atrocities were OK? But you OK
atrocities committed by the allies.
Dan
I never said you were a Nazi. Where did I "OK" atrocities committed
by the Allies?
Moramarth
Still
> > A load of crap.
> > How come this ends up as a 100+ post thread with reasonable people
> > trying to explain reality to mental defectives who can't accept
> > logical arguements in case their tiny universes implode?
>
>
> Wrong. Name the men that trained the Falshirmjager (Fallshirmjager)
> and their WW1 units and commanders. I can do this for the Waffen SS so
> you need to do it for the Fallshirmjager.
research sources you'd simply deny? Of course, you don't want to look
for it yourself, it's easier to fabricate another comforting
delusion. Here's a challenge - you've called Keith a liar for
recounting his personal experience, but haven't attempted a
refutation. Please explain to us *logically* WHY Keith cannot be
telling the truth, and your reasons for thinking his assertation must
be a fabrication...
Otherwise your amusement value is wearing thin
>
> > As for "wicked", the
> > Falschirmjager were tough troops and well-respected by their opponents
> > (or at least by the Brits) but generally behaved in a decent manner,
> > in contrast to the SS.
>
>
> > If you must watch Nazi-era movies, check out Riefenstahl's "Olympia",
> > when the teams march into the arena - the German civilian competitors
> > (and SS - and the French!) give Hitler the Nazi salute, but the
> > Wehrmacht (including the Luftwaffe) give proper military salutes - no
> > stiff right arm crap for them.
>
> Show us your data by video or photo.
if not hundred thousands of 3rd Reich videos I've watched" yet you're
unfamiliar with one of the masterpieces of modern propaganda? Hell,
even I had a copy on VHS ( I gave it to a friend who died, not that
the two events were linked... :) ) and Josef von Báky's 1943
"Münchhausen" (produced on the orders of Goebbels, but a decent film
nonetheless, mainly because the script was by an uncredited banned
author, Erich Kästner). I'd really like a good copy of Eisenstein's
"Alexander Nevsky", it's a long time since I've seen it, but I do have
the magnificent music - somewhere... And I wouldn't mind seeing
"Kolberg" again, just to appreciate the cost of this folly to the
expiring Reich...
>
> Now how on earth would Jews be allowed to continue a newspaper in
> Germany, if they're all being exterminated and have been gathered up
> at night under an event named "night of long knives"? Clearly the
> "Long knives" didn't happen it's a fabricated stratagem.
with the Jews, it was was when Hitler turned on his arse-bandit
boyfriend Ernst Röhm...
GFY,
Moramarth
LIBERATOR
> if not hundred thousands of 3rd Reich videos I've watched" yet you're
> unfamiliar with one of the masterpieces of modern propaganda? Hell,
> even I had a copy on VHS ( I gave it to a friend who died, not that
> the two events were linked... :) ) and Josef von Báky's 1943
> "Münchhausen" (produced on the orders of Goebbels, but a decent film
> nonetheless, mainly because the script was by an uncredited banned
> author, Erich Kästner). I'd really like a good copy of Eisenstein's
> "Alexander Nevsky", it's a long time since I've seen it, but I do have
> the magnificent music - somewhere... And I wouldn't mind seeing
> "Kolberg" again, just to appreciate the cost of this folly to the
> expiring Reich...
Leni's Olympia shows no such evidence of non-saluting Germans or
Heer.
> > Now how on earth would Jews be allowed to continue a newspaper in
> > Germany, if they're all being exterminated and have been gathered up
> > at night under an event named "night of long knives"? Clearly the
> > "Long knives" didn't happen it's a fabricated stratagem.
>
> I think you'll find the "Night of the Long Knives" had nothing to do
> with the Jews, it was was when Hitler turned on his arse-bandit
> boyfriend Ernst Röhm...
Here check this out noting "and others":
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/night_of_the_long_knives.htm The
Night of the Long Knives, in June 1934, saw the wiping out of the SA's
leadership and others who had angered Hitler in the recent past in
Nazi Germany. After this date, the SS lead by Heinrich Himmler was to
become far more powerful in Nazi Germany.
So what dates were the Jews rounded up and put in camps? Why did you
avoid the Hitlers Jewish Soldiers and the Jewish Newspaper Hitler
allowed to continue publishing? Your lies you push on me as truths
don't mesh with those documented truths, do they?
> GFY,
>
> Moramarth
Moramarth
>
> Leni's Olympia shows no such evidence of non-saluting Germans or
> Heer.
>
>
> > I think you'll find the "Night of the Long Knives" had nothing to do
> > with the Jews, it was was when Hitler turned on his arse-bandit
> > boyfriend Ernst Röhm...
>
> Here check this out noting "and others":http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/night_of_the_long_knives.htmThe
> Night of the Long Knives, in June 1934, saw the wiping out of the SA's
> leadership and others who had angered Hitler in the recent past in
> Nazi Germany.
figures mainly within the NSDAP itself, such as Gregor Strasser
(probably because Geli Raubal enjoyed sex with him more than she did
with Hitler). Seventy-odd known executions hardly adds up to
genocide.
>
> So what dates were the Jews rounded up and put in camps?
reality...
>Why did you
> avoid the Hitlers Jewish Soldiers and the Jewish Newspaper Hitler
> allowed to continue publishing? Your lies you push on me as truths
> don't mesh with those documented truths, do they?
relate to the discussion of the FJ you initiated, and you are merely
trying to avoid responding to my challenges regarding your previous
rants, viz:
When Keith said he had met a Nazi-hating FJ veteran, you called him a
liar. PROVE that he is, or apologise.
When I said Goebbel's stepson had preferred to serve his country in
the FJ, you called me a moron. PROVE he didn't serve in the FJ (and
distance himself from the Nazis) or apologise.
>
> > GFY,
>
> > Moramarth
LIBERATOR
wrote:
You were right I was asleep at the terminal when I posted my mistake.
I'm still right though and of course, you are wrong.
NEMO
my mistake", are sure you weren't undead?
LIBERATOR
> LIBERATOR, "You were right I was asleep at the terminal when I posted
> my mistake", are sure you weren't undead?
Only you know so please disclose my truths to me.
LIBERATOR
At 1:34
Moramarth said the Wehrmacht/Heer despised Hitler and the Nazi party
and weren't party members, yet here we have a Panzer commander not SS,
under Rommel, giving "Heil Hitler". It's also said Hitler had Rommel
shot, didn't happen. Hitler & Rommel were very close.
CUNTICA
hanging by a piano wire from a meathook in a slaughter house; Rommel
plotted against Hitler in the Bomb Plot! Rommel chose suicide!
LIBERATOR
Don't forget the shrunken skulls.
How did I, I mean Hitler do that?
Moramarth
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2GA2qVsiG4&NR=1
>
> At 1:34
>
> Moramarth said the Wehrmacht/Heer despised Hitler and the Nazi party
> and weren't party members,
statement. Basically, the Wehrmacht (Heer, Luftwaffe and
Kriegsmarine) reflected German society as a whole, with attitudes to
Hitler ranging from adoring to despising, with the majority in the
middle - approving but not devoted. After the “Night of the Long
Knives” (in 1934) the Heer (despite the loss of a couple of Generals)
were reassured that they would not be subordinated to the SA, but
rather the reverse, and became increasingly reconciled to Hitler but
maintained a façade of political neutrality. Hitler’s “Approval
Rating” with the military continued on the up until things went to
shit in Russia, but there was always a core in the military
(especially the Heer) who were never reconciled with him. Conversely,
it contained men like the robotic Otto Remer who remained a convinced
Nazi all his days. By 1936, when “Olympia” was filmed, the Wehrmacht
would be more likely to give a military salute rather than that used
by Nazis – at that stage still just a political organisation. Because
(other than the Waffen-SS) the SS was not a military organisation many
of its senior members held reserve commissions in the Wehrmacht. For
many it was simply to get in a position where they could pick up a
decoration without really deserving it, but some really earned their
medals. For example, Reinhard Heydrich, who held the rank of SS-
Obergruppenführer (equivalent to General) served as a Major in the
Luftwaffe, completing two periods of active duty and flew around a
hundred combat missions as a fighter pilot. (Hey – R.A.M.
relevance!) This came to an end when he was shot down behind Russian
lines – he escaped, but Hitler went apeshit at the thought of someone
who (literally) knew where the bodies were buried falling into Russian
hands.
>yet here we have a Panzer commander not SS,
> under Rommel, giving "Heil Hitler".
during the war I wouldn’t be surprised if members of the military were
using the political gesture to salute Hitler. Technically, it was
probably correct as while Hitler often dressed in military style for
the most part what he wore wasn’t a real uniform. However, as head of
state he may have been entitled to a military salute however attired,
but giving him the Nazi salute would be acceptable and possibly
“polite” – the protocol is unclear. Certainly the military tend to be
youthful organisations, many troops would have grown up under the
Nazis and regarded the gesture as the norm.
>It's also said Hitler had Rommel
> shot, didn't happen.
knowledge of history...
>Hitler & Rommel were very close.
(Well, Rommel achieved room temprature...)
>
Cheers,
Moramarth
LIBERATOR
You have no evidence of his son serving in the FJ. Show me a photo.
LIBERATOR
LOL, I know you love me but I don't know who you are beause you hide
your identity.
LIBERATOR
>
> > Leni's Olympia shows no such evidence of non-saluting Germans or
> > Heer.
>
> Next you'll be telling us you didn't see Leni get her tits out...
I didn't, show me.
> > > I think you'll find the "Night of the Long Knives" had nothing to do
> > > with the Jews, it was was when Hitler turned on his arse-bandit
> > > boyfriend Ernst Röhm...
>
> > Here check this out noting "and others":http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/night_of_the_long_knives.htmThe
> > Night of the Long Knives, in June 1934, saw the wiping out of the SA's
> > leadership and others who had angered Hitler in the recent past in
> > Nazi Germany.
>
> Read it yourself - it makes clear the "others" were senior political
> figures mainly within the NSDAP itself, such as Gregor Strasser
> (probably because Geli Raubal enjoyed sex with him more than she did
> with Hitler). Seventy-odd known executions hardly adds up to
> genocide.
I don't believe the executions happened. How do you know Geli Raubal
had sex with him? And who is the him we're talking about?
> > So what dates were the Jews rounded up and put in camps?
>
> That question alone shows just how disconnected you are from
> reality...>Why did you
> > avoid the Hitlers Jewish Soldiers and the Jewish Newspaper Hitler
> > allowed to continue publishing? Your lies you push on me as truths
> > don't mesh with those documented truths, do they?
>
> I'm ignoring these (at least for the moment) because they do not
> relate to the discussion of the FJ you initiated, and you are merely
> trying to avoid responding to my challenges regarding your previous
> rants, viz:
> When Keith said he had met a Nazi-hating FJ veteran, you called him a
> liar. PROVE that he is, or apologise.
> When I said Goebbel's stepson had preferred to serve his country in
> the FJ, you called me a moron. PROVE he didn't serve in the FJ (and
> distance himself from the Nazis) or apologise.
Hitlers Jewish Soldiers applies fully due to Jews not being rounded up
as they were in the army, cupcake.
You can't provide one date of the herding them into the camps can
you?
> > > GFY,
>
> > > Moramarth
CUNTICA
Nothing seems more unlikely and surprising than this headline. Yet,
it is a matter of fact that Jews served in the Nazi army in World War
II. Bryan Mark Rigg, Ph.D. has written a book called Hitler’s Jewish
Soldiers, which deals with the 1,200 German officers of “Jewish
descent” who commanded German armies during that war. Included were
two Field Marshals, the highest rank available at that time, fifteen
generals, and the officers commanding 150,000 German soldiers.
The most prominent of these officers was General Erhard Milch. An
aviator during peacetime, he was given a commission in the German air
force and made deputy to Herman Gőring, the chief of the Luftwaffe
(air force). Although Milch had one Jewish parent and would not be
viewed as Jewish by us, the Nazi laws persecuted so-called half Jews,
murdering many of them. Yet, Milch was so important to the Nazi bosses
that Hitler decreed that Milch was not a Jew and told his cohorts that
“I decide who is a Jew.”
At least 20 Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded the
Knight's Cross, Germany’s highest decoration.
Rigg even found an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion throughout the war.
My cousin was one of those Jewish soldiers. Here is his story.
When he was eighteen years old, in 1938, he was suddenly called by a
Christian friend who told him the Secret Police, the Gestapo, were
then and there coming to arrest him at home and send him to a death
camp. Desperate for help, my cousin asked his friend what he might do,
since running into the street was certain death as well. The friend
told him to come along and join his company, as he was then on leave
from the army.
My cousin could hardly accept that suggestion, as the army demanded
that each recruit prove his pure “aryan” blood by showing papers
certified by a “race researcher” who had looked through all of the
recruit’s ancestral certificates to insure that he had no “non-aryan”
ancestry. My cousin was, of course, Jewish on both sides of his family
and had no such papers. However, his friend assured him that his
company commander didn’t “give a damn” about the race laws then in
effect.
And so it was. The German captain enrolled my cousin and said
nothing at all about any evidence of “racial purity”. So, my cousin
participated in the invasion of Poland in September of 1939. Then, one
day, an officer confronted him and said that he knew that my cousin
was a Jew. Hearing this, his captain discharged him from the army lest
someone kill him.
It was required at that time that all discharged German soldiers
had to work in the German defense industry. Therefore, my cousin was
assigned a job in a factory in the Ruhr area where most of Germany’s
steel production takes place. There he was again confronted by a boss
who told him he knew that my cousin was a Jew but would say nothing.
So it was. My cousin survived the war, married an Israeli woman and
came to this country, where he died a natural death ten years ago.
Rigg tells the story of how a Jewish soldier in the Nazi army saved
the life of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Joseph Schneersohn. The Jewish
soldier was Ernst Bloch. Bloch had a Jewish father and a non-Jewish
mother. A decorated World War One hero, Bloch barely escaped detection
in rescuing the Rebbe. It is a fascinating story involving also
American senators, Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis and a host of
bureaucrats who made the rescue as difficult as possible.
Bryan Mark Rigg is professor of history at Southern Methodist
University. He is not Jewish but served as a volunteer in the Israeli
army. He is an officer in the U.S. Marine Corps and a graduate of the
University of Pennsylvania.
Shalom u’vracha.
Dr. Gerhard Falk is the author of numerous publications, including
Football & American Identity (2005) & Youth Culture and the
Generation Gap (2005) with Dr. Ursula A. Falk.
Moramarth
Moramarth
> On May 14, 12:48 am, Moramarth <Morama...@moramarth.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 13, 8:16 am, LIBERATOR <markz...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Leni's Olympia shows no such evidence of non-saluting Germans or
> > > Heer.
>
> > Next you'll be telling us you didn't see Leni get her tits out...
>
> I didn't, show me.
there are several young women exercising naked – Leni’s one of them.
She was proud that she wouldn’t ask the other women to do anything she
wasn’t willing to do herself. Not that she had anything to be ashamed
of, she was a well fit bitch… She was also pretty uninhibited – check
out her own account of her fling with the Decathlete Glenn Morris at
the 1936 Olympics. Hey, Libby – all those Aryan Supermen in the
German team and she fucked a YANK!!! You can’t blame her – even
Hitler fancied Morris. According to Wiki “It was said that Adolf
Hitler never left his seat while Morris was competing”: That was
because he thought if he stood up people would notice he had a stiffy
– unlikely, as it wouldn’t have caused much of a crease in his pants,
but then he was a paranoid nut-job…
>
> > > > I think you'll find the "Night of the Long Knives" had nothing to do
> > > > with the Jews, it was was when Hitler turned on his arse-bandit
> > > > boyfriend Ernst Röhm...
>
> > > Here check this out noting "and others":http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/night_of_the_long_knives.htmThe
> > > Night of the Long Knives, in June 1934, saw the wiping out of the SA's
> > > leadership and others who had angered Hitler in the recent past in
> > > Nazi Germany.
>
> > Read it yourself - it makes clear the "others" were senior political
> > figures mainly within the NSDAP itself, such as Gregor Strasser
> > (probably because Geli Raubal enjoyed sex with him more than she did
> > with Hitler). Seventy-odd known executions hardly adds up to
> > genocide.
>
> I don't believe the executions happened. How do you know Geli Raubal
> had sex with him? And who is the him we're talking about?
>
>
>
> > > So what dates were the Jews rounded up and put in camps?
have been tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of such events – why be
satisfied with one? Have you any idea of the logistics involved in
murdering millions? The Holocaust was an ongoing process still not
complete when the Reich went tits-up. It’s not just knowing who and
where your victims are, it’s about how many you can kill in one go,
how quickly you can move them to where you’re going to kill them, and
how to keep the one’s you haven’t got round to from realising what’s
going on. Hence the newspapers (with what could be termed “Declining
Circulation”) and other efforts to maintain a semblance of normality.
I reiterate:
> > That question alone shows just how disconnected you are from
> > reality...
> as they were in the army, cupcake.
Battalions? Mother-and-Baby artillery batteries?
>
> You can't provide one date of the herding them into the camps can
> you?
>
> > > > GFY,
>
> > > > Moramarth
LIBERATOR
> On May 19, 11:07 pm, LIBERATOR <glimbre...@yahoo.com> wrote:> On May 14, 12:48 am, Moramarth <Morama...@moramarth.demon.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 13, 8:16 am, LIBERATOR <markz...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Leni's Olympia shows no such evidence of non-saluting Germans or
> > > > Heer.
>
> > > Next you'll be telling us you didn't see Leni get her tits out...
>
> > I didn't, show me.
>
> It’s in the first 10 minutes of “Olympia 1. Teil — Fest der Völker” –
> there are several young women exercising naked – Leni’s one of them.
I don't own the video, you should upload this to dailymotion or
another video channel that allows it to be aired.
> She was proud that she wouldn’t ask the other women to do anything she
> wasn’t willing to do herself. Not that she had anything to be ashamed
> of, she was a well fit bitch…
Why do you call her a bitch?
> She was also pretty uninhibited – check
> out her own account of her fling with the Decathlete Glenn Morris at
> the 1936 Olympics.
This is a documented event by her? Show us the publication or inform
us where this is publicated. I never heard of this before.
> Hey, Libby – all those Aryan Supermen in the
> German team and she fucked a YANK!!!
How do you know this? Did she fuck Hitler as well?
> You can’t blame her – even
> Hitler fancied Morris. According to Wiki “It was said that Adolf
> Hitler never left his seat while Morris was competing”: That was
> because he thought if he stood up people would notice he had a stiffy
> – unlikely, as it wouldn’t have caused much of a crease in his pants,
> but then he was a paranoid nut-job…
Perhaps he knew if he got up all the fans would turn to him and not
pay attention to Morris. I'm willing to believe anything you say so
long as you substantiate it, you haven't substantiated anything. I do
know though that Leni is a very naughty girl with no restraint in
sexual ventures, this is problematic when you want loyalty in love.
Right?
SNIP
> 4fuxake - Gregor Strasser - just read the words..
>
> > > > So what dates were the Jews rounded up and put in camps?
>
> Libby, you don’t have much to do with reality, do you. There must
> have been tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of such events – why be
> satisfied with one?
You can't give us one date out of thousands?
> Have you any idea of the logistics involved in
> murdering millions? The Holocaust was an ongoing process still not
> complete when the Reich went tits-up. It’s not just knowing who and
> where your victims are, it’s about how many you can kill in one go,
> how quickly you can move them to where you’re going to kill them, and
> how to keep the one’s you haven’t got round to from realising what’s
> going on. Hence the newspapers (with what could be termed “Declining
> Circulation”) and other efforts to maintain a semblance of normality.
You have not substantiated anything as fact as you have given no
references, thus everything you've said is a lie.
> I reiterate:> > That question alone shows just how disconnected you are from
> > > reality...
> > Hitlers Jewish Soldiers applies fully due to Jews not being rounded up
> > as they were in the army, cupcake.
>
> What – all of them? So where are the pictures of the SturmGranny
> Battalions? Mother-and-Baby artillery batteries?
Blah blah blah... I'm interested in you showing us data of Leni being
a sexual wild woman but not much else out of you.
> > You can't provide one date of the herding them into the camps can
> > you?
>
> More precisely, I can't be arsed...
Huh? Why can't you provide one official date of the SS rounding up
Jews and putting them into camps?
> > > > > GFY,
Do you think Leni Riefenstahl is attractive?
CUNTICA
Why, LIBERASTOR, do you want to fuck a corpse? (It might be better
than your hand?)
LIBERATOR
Now I know you know Leni Riefenstahl is still alive as she is immortal
and does not die.
In fact I'm beginning to think you might be her.
NEMO
Only on alternate Fridays!
Moramarth
>
> > there are several young women exercising naked – Leni’s one of them.
>
> I don't own the video, you should upload this to dailymotion or
> another video channel that allows it to be aired.
>
> > Hey, Libby – all those Aryan Supermen in the
> > German team and she fucked a YANK!!!
>
> How do you know this?
>Did she fuck Hitler as well?
>
>
> > > You can't provide one date of the herding them into the camps can
> > > you?
>
> > More precisely, I can't be arsed...
>
> Huh? Why can't you provide one official date of the SS rounding up
> Jews and putting them into camps?
yourself:
The Routledge Atlas of the Holocaust (Paperback) (ISBN:
9780415484862)
>
> Do you think Leni Riefenstahl is attractive?
This was her, aged 100:
http://www.leni-riefenstahl.de/images/bio/24_eng.jpg
LIBERATOR
> On May 19, 5:31 pm, LIBERATOR <markz...@ymail.com> wrote:>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2GA2qVsiG4&NR=1
>
> > At 1:34
>
> > Moramarth said the Wehrmacht/Heer despised Hitler and the Nazi party
> > and weren't party members,
>
> No I didn’t – I hope I’d never make such a simplistic and inaccurate
> statement.
You said the Wehrmacht as a whole DID NOT DO Sieg Heil salutes,
therefore this also means you said they were not Nazi party members.
It is not mandatory to do the Sieg Heil salute if you are a party
member, but ALL DID do it therefore I have proven you were errant in
your claim and you have no validity. The video at the olympics is what
you used for your credibility and you refuse to show it. I'm sure what
you interpreted is not correct of what actually was reality. So I'm
asking you to provide it to suffice your claim. Additionally, because
you have cracked me up with your insults especially about spoon
feeding reality to a loon, I have become quite fond of you and want to
date you. LOL.... So you defend Leni staunchly? Well the photo
comparison I have done proves she is Madonna, she did not die she is
immortal. http://www.flickr.com/photos/9347249@N08/5574975713/
Additionally, to show that all Wehrmacht were loyalists to Hitler of
which they would give the Heil Hitler salute which you said they would
not and did not even after I successfully proven you wrong, the voting
that occurred in Germany for Hitler proves all citizens thus the
Wehrmacht/Heer were Nazi loyalists by the voting tally for Hitler, 99%
of all German citizens voted for Hitler thus there is no way the
Wehrmacht/Heer would not be Nazis thus saluters of "Heil Hitler", show
us the olympic video that you say proves otherwise:
http://adolfthegreat.com/pages/Trails/trail_Chancellor.html
ADOLF, AS PROMISED,
LESS THAN FOUR YEARS LATER
TOTAL QUALIFIED VOTES 45,453,691
TOTAL VOTES CAST 45,001,489 (99%)
VOTES 'NO' OR INVALID 540,211
VOTES FOR HITLER'S NSDAP 44,461,278 (98.8%)
True to his word, on March, 29th, 1936, the German nation was
given the opportunity to accept or reject the National Socialist
state. It was a free election without fear or intimidation with ample
provision made for monitoring by neutral observers.
As shown by the video I provided the Wehrmacht Heer tank commander
gave "Heil Hitler" salute not a military salute to the cameraman.
> My ancient equipment won’t allow me to view video, but if it’s shot
> during the war I wouldn’t be surprised if members of the military were
> using the political gesture to salute Hitler. Technically, it was
> probably correct as while Hitler often dressed in military style for
> the most part what he wore wasn’t a real uniform. However, as head of
> state he may have been entitled to a military salute however attired,
> but giving him the Nazi salute would be acceptable and possibly
> “polite” – the protocol is unclear. Certainly the military tend to be
> youthful organisations, many troops would have grown up under the
> Nazis and regarded the gesture as the norm.>It's also said Hitler had Rommel
> > shot, didn't happen.
Nope. Hey I really have a crush on Madonna, since she is Leni
Riefenstahl. Being that she's an immortal, and she has wounded me
severely by black ops, we have to have a fist fight to settle things.
Think she'll vaporize me using her superpowers?
> Damn right it didn't, and it's not said by anyone with an basic
> knowledge of history...>Hitler & Rommel were very close.
>
> Hitler may have thought this, but the relationship certainly cooled...
> (Well, Rommel achieved room temprature...)
You're constantly using fabricated historical documentation as truth,
I read between the lines and saw the real truth and even provided a
video of a Heer soldier doing Sieg Heil and you still refuse to accept
you are in error.
> Cheers,
>
> Moramarth
When there's something to cheer about I will until then refrain from
tasking me.
LIBERATOR
Nuh uh I already proved you wrong I don't have time to spend on you
unless you can make it worth my while. So you like Leni Riefenstahl
eh? She's a supergirl, can warp to other planets just with her body,
she don't need no friggin flying saucers.
So when is she gonna hook up with me? Tell her I want her to take me
out in orbit and make love to me in outer space, do I have to wear a
space suit or will her super-powers take care of my mortal
vulnerabilities?
hehe.... spoon feed reality to a loon eh? You really made me like you
by that attack...
LIBERATOR
> In fact I'm beginning to think you might be her.
>
> Only on alternate Fridays!
yeah yeah but why do you hide your identity with spoofing?
Moramarth
> You're constantly using fabricated historical documentation as truth,
> I read between the lines and saw the real truth
the only ones who know the "truth"...
Sorry, but I've known too many people who've lived what you denigrate
as fiction.
I'd like to help you change your mind, but don't have the coleorectal
microsurgical skills to perform a lobotomy...
> > > > When I said Goebbel's stepson had preferred to serve his country in
> > > > the FJ, you called me a moron. PROVE he didn't serve in the FJ (and
> > > > distance himself from the Nazis) or apologise.
> > > You have no evidence of his son serving in the FJ. Show me a photo.
> > Stepson. Google "Harald Quandt" and see how many you can find.
> Nuh uh I already proved you wrong I don't have time to spend on you
> unless you can make it worth my while.
saw, did you?
Now I don't have time to spend on you, as your limited amusement value
has run out.
GFY,
Moramarth