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When it comes to human relationships, Abrams is the Tom Clancy of movies

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RichA

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May 19, 2013, 10:56:02 PM5/19/13
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The movie Star Trek the Reboot 2 wasn't a complete disaster, but what
is lacked was telling. The interrelationships of the main characters
have been replaced with a kind of maudlin, soap-opera driven kind of
relationship. The blatant rip off of Star Trek 2's key scene had zero
effect on the audience. The original movie had half my audience in
tears. The conclusion of the event you could see coming a MILE away
too.
The problem is, Abrams has replaced mature affection and respect with
strained (really strained!) sentimentality. I'm going to forgive his
transgressions against Spock's nature and put it down to Spock being
move emotional when younger. But the lack of military decorum
displayed by the entire crew just does not ring true. True, the
Enterprise is an vessel of exploration, but it is also a military ship
and people should behave like a crew, not people in a bar.
The cast themselves are all fine, but they have not been given good
enough material where they can display the kind of terrific chemistry
the original Star Trek crew did.
The special effects as well were all over the board. The initial
scene was cheap-looking as Hell, but towards the end, the effects were
impressive. I guess it was an allocation of resources where they
thought they were best needed.
Lastly, the bombastic music isn't Star Trek, it's STAR WARS and Star
Trek does not need it. No need to pound the drums every time they
overcome some obstacle, it's almost cloying.

nick

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May 20, 2013, 8:14:10 AM5/20/13
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On May 19, 10:56 pm, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
 But the lack of military decorum
> displayed by the entire crew just does not ring true.  True, the
> Enterprise is an vessel of exploration, but it is also a military ship
> and people should behave like a crew, not people in a bar.

I tried to write that off because of the relative youth and
inexperience of the crew but it was too much of a case of plugging in
modern movie hero rebel outsider types into a setting where it doesn't
make much sense. Like when Kirk says he's a guy who doesn't like to
follow the rules. But he's the captain of a starship. It's his job
to follow the rules and make sure everyone around him is following
them too. He's not Han Solo.

moviePig

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May 20, 2013, 9:01:41 AM5/20/13
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On May 19, 10:56 pm, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
These are the comments you're looking for:

"After increasingly noisy and bloated starship battles, INTO
DARKNESS reaches a climax with the smashing of a North American city
followed by a long fistfight on a flying metal platform. It’s
uninspired hackwork, and the frequent appearance of blue lens flares
does not make this movie any more of a personal statement. Mr. Abrams
will never be Michael Bay, who can make kinetic poetry out of huge
pieces of machinery smashing together. Why should he want to be? "
-A.O. Scott, NYTimes

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Jim T.

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May 20, 2013, 3:22:56 PM5/20/13
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OK, my expectations have reached rock bottom. I might actually enjoy
the movie now.

moviePig

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May 20, 2013, 4:13:50 PM5/20/13
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But do remember that lots of us -- including me -- felt we got our
money's worth. (In fact, those blue lens flares were actually an
asset in hands of the 3D artists...)

RichA

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May 20, 2013, 5:25:18 PM5/20/13
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But the 3D was mediocre for the most part (the only thing remotely ok
was the cliff jump {real original, that}) and non-existent in others.
You could actually remove your glasses and see clear images many
times, indicating that the implementation of 3D after the fact must be
almost as hard as doing it right. For 3D in general, the main problem
is it never leaves the screen. The screen image looks superficially 3
dimensional, but the stuff doesn't leap out.

nick

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May 20, 2013, 10:23:33 PM5/20/13
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There was one lens flair in Star Trek Into Darkness that was so
jarring I literally thought it was some digital flaw or artifact, like
one of those anti-piracy stamps had gone wild and taken over too much
of the screen.

moviePig

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May 20, 2013, 10:52:43 PM5/20/13
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If it's when I'm thinking of, the giveaway was that it was in 3D,
i.e., hanging out in space over the seat in front of me. Since all 3D
was post-processed, we might infer that the flare was actually a
complete fabrication ...a beauty mark, as it were.
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