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Mr. Hole the Magnificent

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:02:05 AM1/8/10
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By Roger Ebert

I mentioned that I can no longer eat or drink. A reader wrote: "That
sounds so sad. Do you miss it?" Not so much really. Not anymore.
Understand that I was never told that after surgery I might lose the
ability to eat, drink and speak. Eating and drinking were not
mentioned, and it was said that after surgery I might actually be able
to go back to work on television.

Success in such surgery is not unheard of. It didn't happen that way.
The second surgery was also intended to restore my speaking ability.
It seemed to hold together for awhile, but then, in surgeon-speak,
also "fell apart."

A third surgery was attempted, using a different approach. It seemed
to work, and in a mirror I saw myself looking familiar again. But
after a little more than a week, that surgery failed, too. Blood
vessels intended to attach the transplanted tissue lost function,
probably because they had been weakened by radiation. A fourth surgery
has been proposed, but I flatly reject the idea. To paraphrase a line
from "Adaptation's" orchid collector: "Done with surgery."

Read the rest here: http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010/01/nil_by_mouth.html

TBerk

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:39:17 AM1/8/10
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IN dealing with Mortality, mine own and every one's in general it
came to me that "if you live long enough, something will happen to
you...".

We make a big deal about pre-school, elementary, high school, the
Mall, College, MTV, and so on; all focused at the beginning of Life.

Seems only focus I can bring to mind at the moment is 'Soylent Green's
approach.


berk
or maybe 'Logan's Run'

leebossa

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Jan 8, 2010, 4:00:16 AM1/8/10
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poor man....but i guess i can't blame him.

moviePig

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Jan 8, 2010, 9:29:32 AM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 2:39 am, TBerk <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote:

So, eat or be eaten...

--

- - - - - - - -
YOUR taste at work...
http://www.moviepig.com

CliffB

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Jan 8, 2010, 12:39:19 PM1/8/10
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He can still shit, it's assumed.

nick

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Jan 8, 2010, 5:33:44 PM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 9:29 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2:39 am, TBerk <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > IN dealing with Mortality,  mine own and every one's in general it
> > came to me that "if you live long enough, something will happen to
> > you...".
>
> > We make a big deal about pre-school, elementary, high school, the
> > Mall, College, MTV, and so on; all focused at the beginning of Life.
>
> > Seems only focus I can bring to mind at the moment is 'Soylent Green's
> > approach.
>
> So, eat or be eaten...
>
Or die at thirty, Logan's Run style (or twenty-one if you live long
enough to see the remake in 2012), Tberk's other option.

m.balarama

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Jan 9, 2010, 10:59:16 AM1/9/10
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On Jan 8, 1:02 am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

But he can see and still write about movies--
you still have your eyes and mind and can review...
Michael

Michael Black

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Jan 9, 2010, 1:47:58 PM1/9/10
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If he can't eat or drink, surely his ability to concentrate on movies is
diminished.

I know, the article didn't say that he's getting food and drink through
tubing.

Michael

RichA

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Jan 9, 2010, 3:21:23 PM1/9/10
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On Jan 8, 2:02 am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

<classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> By Roger Ebert
>
> I mentioned that I can no longer eat or drink. A reader wrote: "That
> sounds so sad. Do you miss it?" Not so much really. Not anymore.
> Understand that I was never told that after surgery I might lose the
> ability to eat, drink and speak. Eating and drinking were not
> mentioned, and it was said that after surgery I might actually be able
> to go back to work on television.

There comes a time when an O.D. of Oxycontin or Morphine is a good
idea. In hospitals, doctors usually allow this to speed stage 4
cancer patients (on their way) and out of pain or severe compromises
to the enjoyment of life.

rick++

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Jan 9, 2010, 7:01:16 PM1/9/10
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On Jan 8, 10:39 am, CliffB <fl...@gosympatico.ca> wrote:

> He can still shit, it's assumed.

Some people lose that ability due to disease
and massage to live fullfilling, but different lives.

rick++

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Jan 9, 2010, 7:04:13 PM1/9/10
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A couple days ago I saw a PBS series on
human emotion, this episode on "happiness".
It did say that many people were resilient and
return to former high levels of happiness
despite a permanent devastating medical or financial setback.

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 9, 2010, 8:50:29 PM1/9/10
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.10...@darkstar.example.net>,
Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, m.balarama wrote:
>
> > On Jan 8, 1:02�am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
> > <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> By Roger Ebert
> >>
> >> I mentioned that I can no longer eat or drink. A reader wrote: "That
> >> sounds so sad. Do you miss it?" Not so much really. Not anymore.
> >> Understand that I was never told that after surgery I might lose the
> >> ability to eat, drink and speak. Eating and drinking were not
> >> mentioned, and it was said that after surgery I might actually be able
> >> to go back to work on television.
> >>
> >> Success in such surgery is not unheard of. It didn't happen that way.
> >> The second surgery was also intended to restore my speaking ability.
> >> It seemed to hold together for awhile, but then, in surgeon-speak,
> >> also "fell apart."
> >>
> >> A third surgery was attempted, using a different approach. It seemed
> >> to work, and in a mirror I saw myself looking familiar again. But
> >> after a little more than a week, that surgery failed, too. Blood
> >> vessels intended to attach the transplanted tissue lost function,
> >> probably because they had been weakened by radiation. A fourth surgery
> >> has been proposed, but I flatly reject the idea. To paraphrase a line
> >> from "Adaptation's" orchid collector: "Done with surgery."
> >>

> >> Read the rest here:http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010/01/nil by

> >> mouth.html
> >
> > But he can see and still write about movies--
> > you still have your eyes and mind and can review...
> > Michael
> >
> >
> If he can't eat or drink, surely his ability to concentrate on movies is
> diminished.
>
> I know, the article didn't say that he's getting food and drink through
> tubing.

The full article he wrote did. It didn't go into details though.

--
As Adam West as Bruce Wayne as Batman said in "Smack in the Middle"
the second half of the series pilot when Jill St. John as Molly as
Robin as Molly fell into the Batmobile's atomic pile:
"What a way to go-go"

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 9, 2010, 8:51:40 PM1/9/10
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In article
<33b43830-89cc-47c0...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
"rick++" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote:

He's being fed through a tube; unless they're pumping liquid fiber into
his digestive track somehow, I doubt defecating is much of a problem.

trotsky

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Jan 10, 2010, 10:06:21 AM1/10/10
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RichA wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2:02 am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
> <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> By Roger Ebert
>>
>> I mentioned that I can no longer eat or drink. A reader wrote: "That
>> sounds so sad. Do you miss it?" Not so much really. Not anymore.
>> Understand that I was never told that after surgery I might lose the
>> ability to eat, drink and speak. Eating and drinking were not
>> mentioned, and it was said that after surgery I might actually be able
>> to go back to work on television.
>
> There comes a time when an O.D. of Oxycontin or Morphine is a good
> idea.


Then why are you still with us?

Bill Steele

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Jan 11, 2010, 1:52:30 PM1/11/10
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In article
<fef3c53e-7480-4d97...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"m.balarama" <pan...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

He said, elsewhere, that he still has his work and his wife, and that's
all he needs.

I saw him last year at Ebertfest, speaking through a text-to-speech
computer, and he seemed to be having a great time.

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:22:52 PM1/11/10
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In article <ws21-6E774B.1...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
Bill Steele <ws...@cornell.edu> wrote:

Serious question; did he sound like Stephen Hawking?

--
As Adam West as Bruce Wayne as Batman said in "Smack in the Middle"

the second half of the 1966 BATMAN series pilot when Jill St. John

trotsky

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Jan 11, 2010, 8:17:32 PM1/11/10
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Your posts get more motherfucking disgusting with each passing minute.

Michael Black

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Jan 11, 2010, 11:16:22 PM1/11/10
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Why? It was a serious question. Some months back, there was a story
about his synthesizer, and something about how it does sound like
Stephen Hawkings. I can't remember the full story, whether Roger
Eberts chose that deliberately, or if he chose it and then it was
discovered to be the same voice as Stephen Hawkings.

Just because there is a level of joking about him, it's because
Roger Eberts is liked.

Michael

Arthur Lipscomb

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Jan 12, 2010, 12:57:53 AM1/12/10
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"Michael Black" <et...@ncf.ca> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.10...@darkstar.example.net...


Ebert talked about using an electronic voice here:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/08/finding_my_own_voice.html

and here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/19/opinion/l19speech.html?_r=3

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 12, 2010, 2:00:09 AM1/12/10
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.10...@darkstar.example.net>,
Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:

And I wasn't joking anyway; I was wondering if speech synthesizers had
advanced any, or still sounded like Apple's Talking Moose. None of the
built in e-voices in OSX seem like much of an improvement.

Tony Calguire

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Jan 12, 2010, 2:18:24 AM1/12/10
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in
news:ANIM8Rfsk-5CDA7...@news.dc1.easynews.com:

>
> And I wasn't joking anyway; I was wondering if speech synthesizers had
> advanced any, or still sounded like Apple's Talking Moose. None of
> the built in e-voices in OSX seem like much of an improvement.
>

I think NOAA Weather Radio sounds pretty good these days. But it seemed
like speech synthesizer technology didn't advance much for about 20 years.

Halmyre

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Jan 12, 2010, 3:22:58 AM1/12/10
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.10...@darkstar.example.net>, et472
@ncf.ca says...

Hawking was offered an upgrade to his voice synth to make it sound more
natural, but he turned it down, saying that he considered it now to be his
real voice, and people wouldn't recognise him if he changed it.

--
Halmyre

This is the most powerful sigfile in the world and will probably blow your
head clean off.

trotsky

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Jan 12, 2010, 9:06:03 AM1/12/10
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It is *potentially* serious question, but not from Anim8r who has a
history of thousands of trolling posts such as these.


Some months back, there was a story
> about his synthesizer, and something about how it does sound like
> Stephen Hawkings.


Stephen Hawkings? Was he cloned?


I can't remember the full story, whether Roger
> Eberts chose that deliberately, or if he chose it and then it was
> discovered to be the same voice as Stephen Hawkings.


Did they say that only geniuses are allowed to get that voice?


> Just because there is a level of joking about him, it's because
> Roger Eberts is liked.


Thumbs down on that one.

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:40:22 AM1/12/10
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In article <A4KdnXBjpdbdv9HW...@posted.visi>,
Tony Calguire <calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote:

Yeah.

You'd think somebody like Ebert, for whom you have decades of recordings
of him talking normally under ideal and identical conditions, would be
the perfect candidate for some sort of 'speech library' system using his
own voice.

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:42:21 AM1/12/10
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In article <MPG.25b641b9c...@news.tesco.net>,
Halmyre <no....@this.address> wrote:

Absolutely. Hawking owns Talking Moose now. That's why I wondered if
Ebert sounded like Hawking, or if you'd be able to differentiate them if
you just heard them.

And I still wasn't making a joke.

If I had, it would be along the lines of musing what it would be like to
have Ebert and Hawking holding a conversation on a DVD commentary track
...

Bill Steele

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Jan 12, 2010, 2:31:16 PM1/12/10
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In article <ANIM8Rfsk-0BE98...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:

> > I saw him last year at Ebertfest, speaking through a text-to-speech
> > computer, and he seemed to be having a great time.
>
> Serious question; did he sound like Stephen Hawking?

At the festival I believe he was using the voice called "Lawrence,"
which has an English accent. I didn't know it was one of the standard
Mac voices. I thought they had nicknamed it that as a reference to
Laurence Olivier. IIRC, it sounded reasonably human but obviously
synthesized because, as Ebert said in his blog, it lacked emotional
overtones.

He was not using it spontaneously, just firing off pre-written
commentaries.

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 12, 2010, 8:50:58 PM1/12/10
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In article <ws21-726B69.1...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
Bill Steele <ws...@cornell.edu> wrote:

Yeah, as I'd expect.

BTW, my Kindle sounds like Stephen Hawking too.

Thanks!

Alls Quiet

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Jan 13, 2010, 5:54:17 AM1/13/10
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Ebert DOES seem happy. I still read his reviews after seeing a film
first, and I think I do that because (possibly very unexpectedly) his
resilience in a devastating medical/age-related situation has made me
respect him more.

I always respected his writing; he's always been brilliant. But his
suffering has become nearly as public as, say, Christopher Reeve's,
and it's impossible to ignore his persistent life-affirmation. He's
actually become more the subject of interest as a human being than as
a critic--and how many film critics can say that?

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