Gladiator - Where was his home
Joe McGrellis
Trying to map his journey from Northern Germany to his home then onto Rome
via Zucchabar (Algeria).
He mentions it in the scene with Marcus Aurelius when he is asked to whisper
together with him, and speak as men.
Marcus asks about his home, and in response Maximus says 'My home is on a
hill overlooking - sounds like Tehello"
Anyone help with exact location? Assuming Spain here as he is known as "The
Spaniard".
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Maximus a Spanish accent but the producers weren't crazy about it.
Joe McGrellis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Trying to map his journey from Northern Germany to his home then onto Rome
> via Zucchabar (Algeria).
>
> He mentions it in the scene with Marcus Aurelius when he is asked to whisper
> together with him, and speak as men.
>
> Marcus asks about his home, and in response Maximus says 'My home is on a
> hill overlooking - sounds like Tehello"
>
> Anyone help with exact location? Assuming Spain here as he is known as "The
> Spaniard".
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Joe
John Harkness
<joem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>You are correct Maximus is from Spain. At first Russell Crowe wanted to give
>Maximus a Spanish accent but the producers weren't crazy about it.
>
One wonders what that accent might have sounded like, there being no
Spanish language as we know it back in the Roman Empire days.
John Harkness
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Joe McGrellis <xp...@ti.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> Trying to map his journey from Northern Germany to his home then onto Rome
> via Zucchabar (Algeria).
>
> He mentions it in the scene with Marcus Aurelius when he is asked to
whisper
> together with him, and speak as men.
>
> Marcus asks about his home, and in response Maximus says 'My home is on a
> hill overlooking - sounds like Tehello"
>
> Anyone help with exact location? Assuming Spain here as he is known as
"The
> Spaniard".
I tried the two versions of the script on the net but only came up with what
you already know - Spain. Nothing about the exact town or valley.
Ewelyn Jordal
Spain.
ewe-
Joe McGrellis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Trying to map his journey from Northern Germany to his home then onto Rome
> via Zucchabar (Algeria).
>
> He mentions it in the scene with Marcus Aurelius when he is asked to whisper
> together with him, and speak as men.
>
> Marcus asks about his home, and in response Maximus says 'My home is on a
> hill overlooking - sounds like Tehello"
>
> Anyone help with exact location? Assuming Spain here as he is known as "The
> Spaniard".
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Joe
Reagen Sulewski
>
>Joe McGrellis <xp...@ti.com> wrote in message
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>> Hello,
>>
>> Trying to map his journey from Northern Germany to his home then onto
>> Rome via Zucchabar (Algeria).
>>
>> He mentions it in the scene with Marcus Aurelius when he is asked to
>whisper
>> together with him, and speak as men.
>>
>> Marcus asks about his home, and in response Maximus says 'My home is
>> on a hill overlooking - sounds like Tehello"
>>
>> Anyone help with exact location? Assuming Spain here as he is known as
>"The
>> Spaniard".
>
>I tried the two versions of the script on the net but only came up with
>what you already know - Spain. Nothing about the exact town or valley.
Well it was 1800 years ago. If it did exist then, it may not now, or have changed names since.
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AssMan4226
>give
>>Maximus a Spanish accent but the producers weren't crazy about it.
>>
>
>One wonders what that accent might have sounded like, there being no
>Spanish language as we know it back in the Roman Empire days.
Spaniards in the days of Ancient Rome were a Celtic people, so I imagine their
accent would have been something more akin to a modern Scottish or Irish accent
than what we know as Spanish. This is why it makes sense for Russell Crowe to
be playing a Spaniard when he quite obviously is not Spanish.
Joe McGrellis
WELL DONE!! You were closer to the name than me, but I got there with your
help..
The place is TRUJILLO, formerly known as TURGALIUM, in south western Spain.
Thanks for you help.
Joe
"Ewelyn Jordal" <ewelyn...@nsd.uib.no> wrote in message
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> He does say Tujillo, but I don't know whether this is/was an actual place
in
> Spain.
>
> ewe-
>
> Joe McGrellis wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Trying to map his journey from Northern Germany to his home then onto
Rome
> > via Zucchabar (Algeria).
> >
> > He mentions it in the scene with Marcus Aurelius when he is asked to
whisper
> > together with him, and speak as men.
> >
> > Marcus asks about his home, and in response Maximus says 'My home is on
a
> > hill overlooking - sounds like Tehello"
> >
> > Anyone help with exact location? Assuming Spain here as he is known as
"The
> > Spaniard".
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joe
>
mee
conqueored over 200 years ago, his accent would have sounded like standard
Roman. Although he still might have been slated for being provincial -
Cicero was always teased for being Spanish.
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Frontier of Germany to Southwestern
Spain? In the Third Century, maybe four months.
David
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>> >Spanish language as we know it back in the Roman Empire days.
>>
>> Spaniards in the days of Ancient Rome were a Celtic people, so I imagine
>their
>> accent would have been something more akin to a modern Scottish or Irish
>accent
>> than what we know as Spanish. This is why it makes sense for Russell Crowe
>to
>> be playing a Spaniard when he quite obviously is not Spanish.
>>
>As a middle-class (at least 'equites') Roman citizen, living in a province
>conqueored over 200 years ago, his accent would have sounded like standard
>Roman. Although he still might have been slated for being provincial -
>Cicero was always teased for being Spanish.
Actually Spain was conquered almost 400 years earlier during the Punic Wars and
had already been in the hands of the Carthaginians for a long time. And Maximus
was no middle-class citizen, he was definitely a patrician, or he wouldn't have
been Rome's highest-ranking general about to become emperor.
Plus, comparing him to Cicero isn't really fair since Gladiator takes place
over 200 years after Cicero's death.
AssMan4226
>Frontier of Germany to Southwestern
>Spain? In the Third Century, maybe four months.
You could get anywhere in the Roman Empire in a few weeks from the tip of
England to Egypt or from Carthage in North Africa to Thrace, north of Greece.
They had the finest system of roads ever created that made it possible to get
around quickly, ensuring that their military could respond in the event of a
war.
Maximus didn't use these roads in the movie, but it looks like he was riding
basically day and night and Europe's not all that big (they were at the
southern edge of Germany, north for the Romans, but not for the Germans). It
would have been like riding across Texas probably, or maybe California, north
to south. He could easily have done it in a few days, and don't forget that
Commodus couldn't just pick up a phone and call Rome to have his underlings go
kill Maximus' family, he had to send messengers just as far as Maximus had to
go.
Maggie Exon
corners of the empire.
Maggie
mee wrote:
> > >>You are correct Maximus is from Spain. At first Russell Crowe wanted to
> > >give
> > >>Maximus a Spanish accent but the producers weren't crazy about it.
> > >>
> > >
> > >One wonders what that accent might have sounded like, there being no
> > >Spanish language as we know it back in the Roman Empire days.
> >
> > Spaniards in the days of Ancient Rome were a Celtic people, so I imagine their
> > accent would have been something more akin to a modern Scottish or Irish accent
> > than what we know as Spanish. This is why it makes sense for Russell Crowe to
> > be playing a Spaniard when he quite obviously is not Spanish.
> >
> As a middle-class (at least 'equites') Roman citizen, living in a province
> conqueored over 200 years ago, his accent would have sounded like standard
> Roman. Although he still might have been slated for being provincial -
> Cicero was always teased for being Spanish.
>
Ewelyn Jordal
border of Germany as we know it today.
ewe-
David Wheeler wrote:
> How long do you think it would take a wounded man to ride from the Northern
> Frontier of Germany to Southwestern
> Spain? In the Third Century, maybe four months.
>
Chris Owen
writes
>Ewelyn,
>
>WELL DONE!! You were closer to the name than me, but I got there with your
>help..
>
>The place is TRUJILLO, formerly known as TURGALIUM, in south western Spain.
Hmm. That would make him a Lusitanian then, not a Spaniard. (Lusitania
was present-day Portugal and south-western Spain; Hispania was the rest
of Spain).
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Chris Owen
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>How long do you think it would take a wounded man to ride from the Northern
>Frontier of Germany to Southwestern
>Spain? In the Third Century, maybe four months.
It took two weeks to go from Rome to Lutetia, present-day Paris, which
is an equivalent distance. That's better than anything post-Roman
societies managed until the fast passenger coaches of the 18th century.
Chris Owen
<assma...@aol.com> writes
>Maximus didn't use these roads in the movie, but it looks like he was riding
>basically day and night and Europe's not all that big (they were at the
>southern edge of Germany, north for the Romans, but not for the Germans). It
>would have been like riding across Texas probably, or maybe California, north
>to south. He could easily have done it in a few days, and don't forget that
>Commodus couldn't just pick up a phone and call Rome to have his underlings go
>kill Maximus' family, he had to send messengers just as far as Maximus had to
>go.
It's unrealistic for several reasons.
First, Europe was much more heavily forested in those days - Germania
was almost entirely forested (the main reason why the Romans had such a
hard time there). The land was much more sparsely settled than now, so
there would have been a great deal of scrubby wasteland which would be
impassable on horseback. If you look at the English Domesday book of
900 years later, the amount of "gastina" (wasteland) recorded far
exceeds settled land. Maximus would have *had* to use the roads to
travel any distance.
Second, the roads were constantly patrolled by the legions, heavily
trafficked and dotted with settlements, waystations, "garages", inns,
restaurants and so on - not much different from a modern superhighway.
It's simply not credible that he could have ridden maybe 1000 miles,
with a severe injury and as a fugitive, without being spotted. (OK,
maybe he had all sorts of adventures on the way, but the film doesn't
show or hint at any of that).
Third, there's no way his horse could have coped with a rapid 1000 mile
journey. Horses aren't cars; in some respects, humans are stronger when
it comes to endurance. Imperial messengers would have been able to
change horses regularly at waystations along the route to Rome, so they
would always have had a fresh horse. Maximus clearly sets off and
arrives on the same horse, which he would have had to feed and rest far
more regularly than did the messengers. The messengers would have
arrived long before Maximus.
Fourth, Maximus would have had to cross or divert around two major
mountain ranges - the Auverge in Gaul and the Pyrenees on the Gallo-
Spanish border - which would have taken days if not weeks.
But in the end who cares? It's only a film and the scriptwriters *do*
have some latitude for bending the facts. It's only when they take it
to really stupid lengths - like Kevin Costner's Robin Hood going from
the White Cliffs of Dover to Nottingham Forest via Hadrian's Wall
(comparable to travelling from New York to Washington via Chicago) -
that it gets significantly annoying.
Dragan Antulov
AssMan4226 wrote in message <20000614050214.05565.00001082@ng-cu
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>>>You are correct Maximus is from Spain. At first Russell Crowe wanted
to
>>give
>>>Maximus a Spanish accent but the producers weren't crazy about it.
>>One wonders what that accent might have sounded like, there being no
>>Spanish language as we know it back in the Roman Empire days.
>Spaniards in the days of Ancient Rome were a Celtic people, so I
imagine their
>accent would have been something more akin to a modern Scottish or
Irish accent
>than what we know as Spanish. This is why it makes sense for Russell
Crowe to
>be playing a Spaniard when he quite obviously is not Spanish.
Ancient Spaniards weren't Celts. They descended from ancient Iberian
people, whose language was different from any Indoeuropean group of
languages, including Celtic ones. That language probably sounded like
modern day Basque, which is linguistically different from any other
language in Europe.
Spaniards in 180 AD, OTOH, had been exposed to Celtic cultural influence
for nearly a millenium, including intermixing with Celtic tribes. In
last few centuries, equally important linguistic factor was slow but
unstoppable process of Romanisation. Spanish languages in 180 AD were
odd combination of ancient Iberian, Celtic and Latin. How those
languages sounded nobody knows, and we can only guess how Latin spoken
with Spanish accent actually sounded like.
Even modern-day Romance languages give rather distorted picture - almost
all of them were reshaped by Germanic invasions of Western and Southern
Europe during Volkerwanderung period (4th - 6th Century AD). Modern day
Spanish is further distorted because of the heavy Arabic influence in
the years between 711 and 1492 AD.
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> I liked the stuff where there was blood
>
> <It's unrealistic for several reasons.
>
> First, Europe was much more heavily forested in those days - Germania
> was almost entirely forested (the main reason why the Romans had such
a
One big, dank 'Black Forest' where the locals distilled a licquor made
from the moss growing on the northside of trees. That's why they must
have been as drunk as they must have been to have made that frontal
attack in the battle scene. I mean -geez, no one could be that much of
a dumbkoph sober.
...The land was much more sparsely settled than now, so
> there would have been a great deal of scrubby wasteland which would be
> impassable on horseback. If you look at the English Domesday book of
> 900 years later, the amount of "gastina" (wasteland) recorded far
> exceeds settled land....
Horses were much smaller and thus mobile in tight quarters then. If
today's quarter horse is an example, they were closer to eigths.
...Maximus would have *had* to use the roads to
> travel any distance...
Not necessarily with the breed of horse he had.
> Second, the roads were constantly patrolled by the legions, heavily
> trafficked and dotted with settlements, waystations, "garages", inns,
> restaurants and so on - not much different from a modern superhighway.
> It's simply not credible that he could have ridden maybe 1000 miles,
> with a severe injury and as a fugitive, without being spotted....
But even Comodus didn't know that he had survived to become fugitive -
not that that makes much of a difference. Regarding his injury, for a
hero it was merely an annoying flesh wound -nothing serious.
...(OK,
> maybe he had all sorts of adventures on the way, but the film doesn't
> show or hint at any of that)...
No. He was totally single-minded in the object of his journey. He would
not have stopped for anything or anyone. While, to the contrary, the
many inns and waystations along the way would have distracted the
Praetorians for the respite ordinary mortals are prone to and the
womanizing the Praetorians were especially wanton --while also having
had no reason to hurry considering that they too did not know that
Maximus had survived to make the mad dash to save his loved ones.
> Third, there's no way his horse could have coped with a rapid 1000
mile
> journey. Horses aren't cars; in some respects, humans are stronger
when
> it comes to endurance. Imperial messengers would have been able to
> change horses regularly at waystations along the route to Rome, so
they
> would always have had a fresh horse. Maximus clearly sets off and
> arrives on the same horse,...
He sets off with two horses and arrives with one -as if, again, that
makes much of a difference.
...which he would have had to feed and rest far
> more regularly than did the messengers. The messengers would have
> arrived long before Maximus.
Maximus, though, had Geminii (two) Pegusii, while the Praetorians had
ordinary horses. They also frolicked at every Maypole Dance along the
way. That was their custom.
>
> Fourth, Maximus would have had to cross or divert around two major
> mountain ranges - the Auverge in Gaul and the Pyrenees on the Gallo-
> Spanish border - which would have taken days if not weeks.>
Even if just one of the Pegusii were lost, such would have presented no
problem. Hot air balloons though --but like I said, no one except
Maximus knew he had gotten away.
S.Q.V.P.
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Paulo Ferrero
First, the actual city of Trujillo is not southeast, but in central east of
Spain, in Extremadura, some 120 Km east the Portuguese frontier, pretty
close to Cáceres. But I still don't know if the Trujillo mentioned in the
film is the same Trujillo of nowadays.
Second, Spanish and Italian languages during the Roman Empire of Marcus
Aurelius, are not even close to the words and sound that are actualy spoken
and eared.
Third, it was impossible, then and now, traveling from Germania to Hispania
in just two days.
Fourth, there are not only those gaps in the film, since other aspects such
as the details of succession of Caesar, the costumes of legionaires and
centurians, Roman war tactics and belic machines, the decoration of the
imperial rooms, the gladiator masks, etc.; all this is not 100% correct at
all.
Nevertheless, "Gladiator",as a Hollywood product, is a good entertainment
and cleary above average, in what concerns to historic and epic movies.
Paulo Ferrero
AssMan4226
>as the details of succession of Caesar,
What exactly was wrong with this? The emperors named their own successors.
Although since Aurelius hadn't named his heir yet when he died (in the movie,
whereas in real life Commodus served as co-emperor for 12 years) there would
have probably been a major power struggle that would have led to civil war.
Other than that I don't see the problem though.
mee
> >Spaniards in the days of Ancient Rome were a Celtic people, so I
> imagine their
> >accent would have been something more akin to a modern Scottish or
> Irish accent
> >than what we know as Spanish. This is why it makes sense for Russell
> Crowe to
> >be playing a Spaniard when he quite obviously is not Spanish.
>
> Ancient Spaniards weren't Celts. They descended from ancient Iberian
> people, whose language was different from any Indoeuropean group of
> languages, including Celtic ones. That language probably sounded like
> modern day Basque, which is linguistically different from any other
> language in Europe.
He would have spoken latin for exactly the same reason that Crowe speaks
English - empires export languages.
> odd combination of ancient Iberian, Celtic and Latin. How those
> languages sounded nobody knows, and we can only guess how Latin spoken
> with Spanish accent actually sounded like.
I've tried it, and Latin sounds better with a Spanish accent than an
Italian one, especially if you add a Madrid lisp.
"Gallia etht divisa in treth parteth" etc
Blaine Dixon
True we can never know what the language was.
I did have a gripe with the costumes. The legionaries did wear pants at
times...especially in the colder regions such as Germany. But the Praetorians
did not have a special uniform. The standard uniform was a wool tunic of natural
color off white with red strip on bottom. The cloaks were always red....they
were the protection against cold, the soldiers sleeping blanket at night.
Some accounts say the Praetorians in Rome did not wear uniforms as the legions
were barred from Rome, (to prevent militar coups, to ensure civilian control of
military.) But I do not believe this. There was a unit of several hundreds of
legionires assigned inside the city limits, unattached to any legion, for
protection of the city from outside attack.....but not for a police force. Then
nearby at the Mars camp...there were the Praetorian barracks outside the city
with from 5 to 7 thousand Praetorians, they rotated shifts guarding the Palace
one cohort at a time about 500 men under a Prefect. I think it was the Prefect
of the city cohorts that plotted the murder of Commodus..along with the
Senators....
>Second, Spanish and Italian languages during the Roman Empire of Marcus
>Aurelius, are not even close to the words and sound that are actualy spoken
>and eared.
>Third, it was impossible, then and now, traveling from Germania to Hispania
>in just two days.
>Fourth, there are not only those gaps in the film, since other aspects such
>as the details of succession of Caesar, the costumes of legionaires and
>centurians, Roman war tactics and belic machines, the decoration of the
>imperial rooms, the gladiator masks, etc.; all this is not 100% correct at
>all.
>Nevertheless, "Gladiator",as a Hollywood product, is a good entertainment
>and cleary above average, in what concerns to historic and epic movies.
>
>
>Paulo Ferrero
>
>
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"Paulo Ferrero" <paulo....@iapmei.pt> wrote in message
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> Regarding "Gladiator" there are some facts that must be clearified:
> First, the actual city of Trujillo is not southeast, but in central east
of
> Spain, in Extremadura, some 120 Km east the Portuguese frontier, pretty
> close to Cáceres. But I still don't know if the Trujillo mentioned in the
> film is the same Trujillo of nowadays.
W. Lydecker
John Harkness
Lydecker) wrote:
> Max's home looked like Tuscany to me.
>
Not at all -- where were the big hills -- it all looked like rolling
hills. Vegetation was wrong for Tuscany, too.
John Harkness
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Dee and Philip Hinson
Rusty...@webtv.net wrote:
>He was called the Spaniard so I guess he must have been from Spain.
>
His farm was in the hills above Trujillo.
regards,
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friends,came across this info.As it turns out,there really was a
Maximus,who served under the Emperor Marcus Aurelius.The
commander’s full name was Marcus Valerius Maximus,he had been a
prefect of an ala (Imperial auxilia Cavalry).The emperor
promoted him to senatorial rank(he had been an equestrian
officer,which was your basic overachievers from Roman lower
class).The reason for this great honor was Maximus had
killed,with his own hand a king of a particularly difficult
Germanic tribe,the Naristae. In addition to the elevation of
rank & class,Maximus was made Legate of six Legions in
succession!This indeed,was an honor not seen very often during
Imperial Roman time.Marcus Aurelius had political reason for
doing this,basically he was showing the Senate that men with
loyalty to Emperor could now achieve a level that had been
reserved for Senators.My sources(was taught you need at least 2)
are “Roman Warfare “ by Adrian Goldsworthy(Cassell,UK)
And “The Later Roman Empire(Oxford,1964).I wonder if the person
or persons who named the Maximus character were even aware of
any of these facts….looks like my natural curiosity will force
to find out..
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> Hello,
>
> Trying to map his journey from Northern Germany to his home then onto Rome
> via Zucchabar (Algeria).
>
> He mentions it in the scene with Marcus Aurelius when he is asked to whisper
> together with him, and speak as men.
>
> Marcus asks about his home, and in response Maximus says 'My home is on a
> hill overlooking - sounds like Tehello"
>
> Anyone help with exact location? Assuming Spain here as he is known as "The
> Spaniard".
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Joe
Look familiar? It's Italica,Espana settled by Scipio 206 BC for roman war veterans and later the home of several Roman emperors, Hadrian and Trajan. These guys gave all spanish full citizen rights and privileges as romans and marcus aurelius also spanish due to his father's(a spanish-roman senator's lineage) followed the others as emperor. Commodus(son) his successor really was assassinated and that began a civil war which, I think the movie was trying to portray with maximus.
thanks,
Rick
Flasherly
wrote:
sound notably auspicious, suitable for other than storm-in-teacup
tactics, great and good stuff, no doubt, for staging populist and
republican propaganda among campaign militants with an eye to a future
in aspiring politics. Linguistically, predominately Celtic,
logistically, the Iberian peninsula is still significantly backwards,
Celtic or of other barbaric persuasions;- A somewhat less idyllic
portrayal in Gladiator, to bear in mind, even for a Hollywood script
writer and less than an immerse historical prodigy, for "sword and
scandal" yarn fit to an arena of a somewhat reticent and backwards
Commodus. The guy, it occurs to me, doesn't dig much other than what
appeals at a bestial level, hence his anti-social front for a sporting
life of hunting down wild animals, which he enjoys. When he enters
the arena, however, he either does so exclusively in prearranged form,
upon a staged performance across paid parts and actors, or his
opponents are then tied together in big bag, which he goes after with
his trademark club, until they're all rendered so senseless dead, the
crowd cannot help but help themselves piddling in the isles with
frenzy. (Unlike the Roman aristocracy, which reserved a rare form of
damnation, for the eyes of Commodius, after his death for all time.)
Besides spoken Tehello, I suspect, well could be more refined than a
bunch of savage Spanish bastards, and their wandering goats, jabbering
all about [*]Turd ' illi gibberish at once.
Then again, just goes to prove, go back far enough and there's that
distinct chance no one really does;- What's written for the stars and
before the stars, no less a fine stuff woven by myths for a bunch of
half-literate monks, with half as much a mind, again, for children
tales, maps and squiggles, than what actual become (selectively)
transcoded for respectable veracity acceded to historical posterity.
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>Trujillo is a town in western Spain. Trujillo, ancient (Latin) Turgalium, town, Cáceres provincia (province), in the Extremadura comunidad autónoma (autonomous community), western Spain, on the Tozo River, a tributary of the Tagus
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Robbin Hood, along with the nearby British castle and locale for
spawning another Marvel Thor/Dark World. Morocco is where filming
subsequently moves, i.e. Crowe's "side-bet" fights from outlaying
arenas after sold into slavery;- the site is specific for Lawrence of
Arabia and O'Toole. Whereas Gladiator's Rome is a rendition and stage
derived from CGI by reworking the same Malta locations that Brad Pitt
derived in Troy's shape.
Deference as easily is Scott's "inspirational" acknowledgement to
Richard Harris' Fall of the Roman Empire, perhaps economically then
suited resources, more expansive sets than usually now engaged, Spain
afforded earlier entertainment industry, half a century ago.