Jeff Falcon is NOT a star as he claims!?
Jason Frandy
over the past 15 years. I'm a great fan of Hong Kong martial arts
movies and I can say I've never seen any caucasian 'stars' in all
the movies I've seen--there may be a token stunt man or bad guy
person but certainly no stars. The claim that Jeff Falcon
(star of "Six String Samurai") has starred in a number of Hong Kong
action films is clearly a load of nonsense. In all the Hong Kong and
Chinese martial arts movies that I've seen, I haven't seen Jeff in them.
I'd like to challenge Jeff (if he reads these newsgroups) to name
the movies he was a star in so we can rent them and see whether
or not he's really a star in them. If the movies are big enough then we
should be able to rent them (at least in the Chinese video stores).
- Jason
Warchild
<moon...@netwood.net> wrote:
I saw Six-String Samurai, which was goofy fun. I have not seen much in
the way of Hong Kong action movies.
Why should I, as a viewer of SSS, care whether or not Jeff Falcon is a
Hong Kong action star? What does it matter?
Why are you wasting time on this issue? What the fuck does it matter?
--
What is this fish doing in my ear?
A.J. Raist
Taiwan martial arts films as the token bad guy but I agree he shouldn't say
he starred in those films. Dishonest in this connection makes me question
what he or his publicist is saying about the other things they've been
saying about the project. How much really occured the way it did in their
filming and how much of it is just an exaggeration for the purposes of
getting publicity for the film.
Jason Frandy wrote in message <6ubu4r$2ub$1...@supernews.com>...
Darryl Pestilence
Richard Norton, Roy Horan, Mark Houghton, Keith Vitali, Gary Daniels, Bey
(ugh) Logan, Kim Maree Penn, Louis C. Roth, Anders Nelson, Karen Sheppard,
Shannon Lee (half-Caucasian), Brandon Lee (half_Caucasian), Robert
Houston, Peter Graves (Yes, him), Jeff Wolfe, Paul Fornoroff, Herb
Edleman, Peter Liapus, David Heddison, Vernon Wells (who now appears in
Filipino productions), Oliva Hussey, Ronald Lacey, George Lazenby, Bill
"Superfoot" Wallace, John Wakefield, and yes, Jeffery Falcon.
Need more Caucasians?
Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
"Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
He is French I believe.
and, people of Latin/Spanish desent - Lol Forner, Benny Urquidez, Jose
Ferrar.
there are many more worth mentioning. Of course, we have left of Filipino
(Maria Cordero), Japanese (so many...), Korean ,etc.
I digress.
Darryl Pestilence
Dan Helmick wrote:
> In article <6ubu4r$2ub$1...@supernews.com>, "Jason Frandy"
> <moon...@netwood.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm an Austrlian businessman whose spent a lot of time in Hong Kong
> >> over the past 15 years. I'm a great fan of Hong Kong martial arts
> >> movies and I can say I've never seen any caucasian 'stars' in all
> >> the movies I've seen--there may be a token stunt man or bad guy
> >> person but certainly no stars.
>
> Cynthia Rothrock, anyone?
Dan Helmick
Jimmy
effort...According to Thunder Falcon was in minor HK films such as
Inspector Wears Skirts
Outlaw Bros
Blonde Fury
Fight For Love
On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:59:01 -0700, "Jason Frandy"
<moon...@netwood.net> wrote:
>I'm an Austrlian businessman whose spent a lot of time in Hong Kong
>over the past 15 years. I'm a great fan of Hong Kong martial arts
>movies and I can say I've never seen any caucasian 'stars' in all
>the movies I've seen--there may be a token stunt man or bad guy
Delphine Houlton
Jeff Falcon stalks the badlands as the SIX-STRING SAMURAI
Bey Logan meets the man who would be King
(from Impact magazine, 9/98, extracts)
...Jeff was perhaps the most physically gifted of the Western performers
seeking fame and fortune in Hong Kong movies, and definitely had burning
ambitions far beyond his (small) roles in such chop socky hits as 'Top
Squad' and 'Outlaw Brothers'...He once gate-crashed as interview I was
conducting with John Woo, in order to pitch his superhero martial arts
movie...Subsequently, Jeff vanished from the Hollywood East scene, and word
was that he had headed to tinseltown itself, aiming to star in and produce
US actioners. "Yeah, right...", we all intoned as one...(rest of 3 page
article is jsut about SSS)
Snuka, England
Franknseus
>I'd like to challenge Jeff (if he reads these newsgroups) to name
>the movies he was a star in so we can rent them and see whether
>or not he's really a star in them.
This reminds me of The Joker going on TV to challenge Batman to a duel. I
haven't seen any evidence that Falcon reads newsgroups or cares if you don't
know about the obscure movies he has appeared in.
Bryan Frankenseuss Theiss
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unlikely." --Peter Farrelly
fiendis...@my-dejanews.com
maxxr...@hotmail.com (Jimmy) wrote:
> I saw 6 string...very overrated but it does get points for
> effort...According to Thunder Falcon was in minor HK films such as
> Inspector Wears Skirts
> Outlaw Bros
> Blonde Fury
> Fight For Love
Oooh, Outlaw Brothers? Inspector Wears Skirts? There's a resume.
--
Miles
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"Jason Frandy" <moon...@netwood.net> wrote:
> I'm an Austrlian businessman whose spent a lot of time in Hong Kong
> over the past 15 years. I'm a great fan of Hong Kong martial arts
> movies and I can say I've never seen any caucasian 'stars' in all
> the movies I've seen--there may be a token stunt man or bad guy
> person but certainly no stars. The claim that Jeff Falcon
> (star of "Six String Samurai") has starred in a number of Hong Kong
> action films is clearly a load of nonsense. In all the Hong Kong and
> Chinese martial arts movies that I've seen, I haven't seen Jeff in them.
> the movies he was a star in so we can rent them and see whether
> should be able to rent them (at least in the Chinese video stores).
He's claiming he was a STAR?! Well, I think he was in Righting Wrongs 2 aka
Blonde Fury aka Lady Reporter with Cynthia Rothrock, but that's all I can
think of as even a supporting player. And as a star, nothing. Rothrock is the
only gweilo (or mui, I guess) to have LARGE action roles in multiple HK
movies. And even she didn't do that many.
Rockabilly Hellcat
Darryl Pestilence wrote:
> Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
> Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> He is French I believe.
>
Hey! What about Chuck Jeffreys?
R
>
--
"Heaven ain't bad, but you don't get nothin' done..."
-Townes Van Zandt
Stan Winslow
up a few ideas from Clint Eastwood movies, etc. but he's just too short and
too much of a nerd and that voice just doesn't cut it.
I don't know if it's ego or what but if he had anything to do with the
making of Six String Samurai as the publicity claims, then he should have
helped somebody who's got more potential star and heroic qualities--more
charisma and on-screen presence--to fill that role. He's just trying too
hard to be something he isn't.
--Stan "The Man" Winslow--
Jason Frandy wrote in message <6ubu4r$2ub$1...@supernews.com>...
>I'm an Austrlian businessman whose spent a lot of time in Hong Kong
>over the past 15 years. I'm a great fan of Hong Kong martial arts
>movies and I can say I've never seen any caucasian 'stars' in all
>the movies I've seen--there may be a token stunt man or bad guy
>person but certainly no stars. The claim that Jeff Falcon
>(star of "Six String Samurai") has starred in a number of Hong Kong
>action films is clearly a load of nonsense. In all the Hong Kong and
>Chinese martial arts movies that I've seen, I haven't seen Jeff in them.
>I'd like to challenge Jeff (if he reads these newsgroups) to name
>the movies he was a star in so we can rent them and see whether
>or not he's really a star in them. If the movies are big enough then we
>should be able to rent them (at least in the Chinese video stores).
>
>- Jason
>
>
>
>
fiendis...@my-dejanews.com
Darryl Pestilence <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> To add to Cynthia Rothrock -
>
> Richard Norton, Roy Horan, Mark Houghton, Keith Vitali, Gary Daniels, Bey
> (ugh) Logan, Kim Maree Penn, Louis C. Roth, Anders Nelson, Karen Sheppard,
> Shannon Lee (half-Caucasian), Brandon Lee (half_Caucasian), Robert
> Houston, Peter Graves (Yes, him), Jeff Wolfe, Paul Fornoroff, Herb
> Edleman, Peter Liapus, David Heddison, Vernon Wells (who now appears in
> Filipino productions), Oliva Hussey, Ronald Lacey, George Lazenby, Bill
> "Superfoot" Wallace, John Wakefield, and yes, Jeffery Falcon.
>
> Need more Caucasians?
>
> Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> He is French I believe.
Gimme a break, Darryl, you're just looking for an excuse to show off. Almost
all of the names you listed (that I know off the top of my head) fall into
the category of "token bad guy" the original poster mentioned. But how many
have been "stars" even once? George Lazenby once, the Lee kids once apiece...
And of course Rothrock a few times. But last I checked Louis Roth and Gary
Daniels weren't making star vehicle in HK.
Jaguar Wong
> I'm an Austrlian businessman whose spent a lot of time in Hong Kong
> over the past 15 years. I'm a great fan of Hong Kong martial arts
> movies and I can say I've never seen any caucasian 'stars' in all
> the movies I've seen--there may be a token stunt man or bad guy
> person but certainly no stars. The claim that Jeff Falcon
> (star of "Six String Samurai") has starred in a number of Hong Kong
> action films is clearly a load of nonsense. In all the Hong Kong and
> Chinese martial arts movies that I've seen, I haven't seen Jeff in them.
> I'd like to challenge Jeff (if he reads these newsgroups) to name
> the movies he was a star in so we can rent them and see whether
> or not he's really a star in them. If the movies are big enough then we
> should be able to rent them (at least in the Chinese video stores).
>
> - Jason
Whether you are right or not, I think you would have a better chance
finding out which movies he was in if you go to the bulliten board on the
Six String Samurai site: www.sixstringsamurai.com
I know he personally responds to the posts there. I wish I could get a
hold of some Hong Kong Action. I need Drunken Master II!!!
Drunkuar Wong
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Jaguar Wong
> Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
> Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> He is French I believe.
You forgot Chuck Jefferies, and Taimak (Last Dragon) ;)
Darryl Pestilence
to play literalisms like school children - then fine. As for Louis C. Roth - he
got one of three top credits in LITTLE HEROES LOST IN CHINA. Showing off? More
like I watch films and write about what I see. Regardless - token bad guy or not
- many have also played good guys. Care for a further dramaturgical breakdown?
Didn't think so.
Darryl Pestilence
fiendis...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <3609A1C9...@earthlink.net>,
> Darryl Pestilence <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > To add to Cynthia Rothrock -
> >
> > Richard Norton, Roy Horan, Mark Houghton, Keith Vitali, Gary Daniels, Bey
> > (ugh) Logan, Kim Maree Penn, Louis C. Roth, Anders Nelson, Karen Sheppard,
> > Shannon Lee (half-Caucasian), Brandon Lee (half_Caucasian), Robert
> > Houston, Peter Graves (Yes, him), Jeff Wolfe, Paul Fornoroff, Herb
> > Edleman, Peter Liapus, David Heddison, Vernon Wells (who now appears in
> > Filipino productions), Oliva Hussey, Ronald Lacey, George Lazenby, Bill
> > "Superfoot" Wallace, John Wakefield, and yes, Jeffery Falcon.
> >
> > Need more Caucasians?
> >
> > Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
> > Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> > "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> > in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> > He is French I believe.
>
fiendis...@my-dejanews.com
Darryl Pestilence <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> First off, let's get it straight Miles - "star" is a figurative word. If you want
> to play literalisms like school children - then fine.
Excuse me... You think it's childish to distinguish between a top-billed
"star" and someone with three grunted lines? I don't think too many people
would agree with that.
As for Louis C. Roth - he
> got one of three top credits in LITTLE HEROES LOST IN CHINA.
Shockingly, I haven't seen this film. Silly me, I generally stick to movies I
think I might like. Score one point for you.
Showing off? More
> like I watch films and write about what I see.
Don't pretend, Darryl. You'll jump at ANY excuse to rattle off names. This
thread, for example... The MAIN point is that Jeff Falcon was never a "HONG
KONG ACTION STAR" as someone claimed he claimed. The topic of Caucasians in
HK movies was brought up only in passing. But you saw an opportunity to show
off your photographic memory for bit players in every Hong Kong movie ever
made, and you took it. This isn't something new for you.
Regardless - token bad guy or not
> - many have also played good guys.
Yeeees... Token good guys.
Care for a further dramaturgical breakdown?
> Didn't think so.
You're absolutely right. I don't want to argue with you anymore. It's no fun
at all.
WideScreenPig
Jaguar Wong wrote:
> In article <3609A1C9...@earthlink.net>, Darryl Pestilence
> <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
> > Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> > "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> > in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> > He is French I believe.
>
> You forgot Chuck Jefferies, and Taimak (Last Dragon) ;)
And the immortal Jim "Dragon" Kelley, the one and only Black Belt Jones.
Colin Geddes
> I'm an Austrlian businessman whose spent a lot of time in Hong Kong
> over the past 15 years. I'm a great fan of Hong Kong martial arts
> movies and I can say I've never seen any caucasian 'stars' in all
> the movies I've seen--there may be a token stunt man or bad guy
> person but certainly no stars. The claim that Jeff Falcon
> (star of "Six String Samurai") has starred in a number of Hong Kong
> action films is clearly a load of nonsense. In all the Hong Kong and
> Chinese martial arts movies that I've seen, I haven't seen Jeff in them.
> I'd like to challenge Jeff (if he reads these newsgroups) to name
> the movies he was a star in so we can rent them and see whether
> or not he's really a star in them. If the movies are big enough then we
> should be able to rent them (at least in the Chinese video stores).
>
> - Jason
After spending time with Jeff during the Toronto FIlm Festival where Six
String played, I can vouch that Jeffrey has starred in roughly 17 HK
films. The idea that he is a star is just a catch phrase from the
publicity machine working on the film. His roles were primarily as bad
gweilos and he can list off the various ways his characters met their
deaths. He was discovered by Stanley Tong while working on Taiwan
television and brought to HK to be in Inspector Wears Skirts. His martial
arts training and acomplishments is more impressive than his "acting"
career, training under Jet Li's wushu teachers and getting a bronze at the
world games (the year escapes me).
- Colin Geddes
Darryl Pestilence
Darryl Pestilence
Drunken1
Rockabilly Hellcat wrote:
> Darryl Pestilence wrote:
>
> > Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
> > Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> > "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> > in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> > He is French I believe.
> >
>
Jaguar Wong
> Jaguar Wong wrote:
>
> > In article <3609A1C9...@earthlink.net>, Darryl Pestilence
> > <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
> > > Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> > > "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> > > in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> > > He is French I believe.
> >
> > You forgot Chuck Jefferies, and Taimak (Last Dragon) ;)
>
> And the immortal Jim "Dragon" Kelley, the one and only Black Belt Jones.
Aww man, I forgot Jim Kelley. Isn't that grounds for execution? I forgot
about the Black Samurai, Black belt Jones!!
Jaguar Wong
eirias
>
> In article <360C1F9A...@trends.ca>, WideScreenPig <ws...@trends.ca> wrote:
>
> > Jaguar Wong wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3609A1C9...@earthlink.net>, Darryl Pestilence
> > > <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lest we forget the Black contingent - worthy of mentioning as well: Robert
> > > > Samuels, Carl Scott, Ron Van Clief, Michael Woods, Pete Cunningham (not
> > > > "Conningham!?!"), and a gentleman whose name just escapes me- but he was
> > > > in ARMOUR OF GOD 2 and LUCKY STARS GO PLACES. Shit! I hate when I forget.
> > > > He is French I believe.
> > >
> > > You forgot Chuck Jefferies, and Taimak (Last Dragon) ;)
> >
> > And the immortal Jim "Dragon" Kelley, the one and only Black Belt Jones.
>
> Aww man, I forgot Jim Kelley. Isn't that grounds for execution? I forgot
> about the Black Samurai, Black belt Jones!!
Dave
Yikes! What a horrible film.
I can't decide which was worse:
1) The highly visible pads sticking out of the actors' shirts when they
were "hit" by an arrow or
2) The rubber guns! I could actually see the guns bouncing up and down
and the flimsy bayonets swaying in the breeze! or
3) The writing, directing, acting, or editing.
No wonder this film took so long to get released. They're lucky it ever did.
But, I'm not a chop-socky fan. I need actual stories and acting.
The movie did have one good moment:
(SPOILER)
at the end when the kid put on his glasses and suit and walked to Vegas.
Then the director had to spoil it by superimposing an image of Buddy
walking with him. Subtlety is clearly not in the vocabulary of this
director.
Or maybe I like that moment because it meant the movie was over.
Oh well.
Dave
<PhonyEmailAddress...@ppp-206-170-217-167.nhwd02.pacbell.net>,
PhonyEma...@pacbell.net (Dave) wrote:
> I just saw "Six String Samauri".
>
>
> Yikes! What a horrible film.
Oh, the other thing was that there was not one single original scene in
the film. They ripped off many movies, including The Wizard of Oz, Star
Wars, and all the Mad Max movies. THey also ripped off bad movies, like
every B movie about post-apocalyptic America ever made.
Wow! That's a lot of stealing!