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The Frighteners: End Query (Warning: Spoilers)

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Nereus

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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In rec.arts.movies.current-films, athol-brose (cinn...@shell.one.net) dared to write:
: Spoilers ahoy...


: Something bothered me about the scene in Heaven at the end of The
: Frighteners: where was the Judge? The other ghosts met (er...) MJF,
: but the Judge was absent.

Also missing was Ray Lynski, but they didn't have to show everyone who
died, did they?

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athol-brose

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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Spoilers ahoy...

Something bothered me about the scene in Heaven at the end of The
Frighteners: where was the Judge? The other ghosts met (er...) MJF,
but the Judge was absent.

Ah, well. Pretty good movie, but it made me want to see Dead Alive
again.
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athol-brose

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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In article <4t17bt$o...@jaxnet.southeast.net>,
Matt Beckwith <beck...@jaxnet.com> wrote:
>I thought when the grim reaper character was "killing" the other ghosts
>and devouring their souls he was actually destroying them for all
>eternity (since they were dead already). If not, then what was so
>terrible about his slicing them up with his scythe?

Ah. I was definitely under the impression that the other two ghosts were
"killed" while distracting the Reaper from Bannister and the woman's
escape -- mostly because the weren't in the rest of the movie and *were*
in Heaven.

"Armor; we have this for you, we do..."

Cliff Heller

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Jul 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/24/96
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In <4t17bt$o...@jaxnet.southeast.net> Matt Beckwith <beck...@jaxnet.com> writes:

>I thought when the grim reaper character was "killing" the other ghosts
>and devouring their souls he was actually destroying them for all
>eternity (since they were dead already). If not, then what was so
>terrible about his slicing them up with his scythe?

They were banished from the earthly plane. Sent up the light tunnel, so to
speak.

But how about this:

The ghosts' images reflected the states of their bodies as they rotted
away. So what about Bartlett? He was cremated. Had he simply not gone up
the tunnel when they fried him, or did he actually manage to escape from
Hell?

There are plenty of little plot inconsistencies like this, but they don't
detract from the overrall fun of the movie.

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deering

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Jul 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/24/96
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Cliff Heller (fn...@panix.com) wrote:

: The ghosts' images reflected the states of their bodies as they rotted


: away. So what about Bartlett? He was cremated. Had he simply not gone up
: the tunnel when they fried him, or did he actually manage to escape from
: Hell?


Bartlett made some comment in the graveyard sequence about having gotten
away from Hell (couldn't make it out--sorry!). I got the impression that
Patricia holding onto his ashes and using the Ouija boards to summon him
back to earth probably either facilitated his escape from down below (hmm,
those were some powerful Ouija boards--:)), or that his spirit was
preserved in the ashes till her summoning let him out.

C.
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Ron Freilinger

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Jul 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/25/96
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cinn...@shell.one.net (athol-brose) wrote:

>In article <4t17bt$o...@jaxnet.southeast.net>,
>Matt Beckwith <beck...@jaxnet.com> wrote:

>>I thought when the grim reaper character was "killing" the other ghosts
>>and devouring their souls he was actually destroying them for all
>>eternity (since they were dead already). If not, then what was so
>>terrible about his slicing them up with his scythe?

>Ah. I was definitely under the impression that the other two ghosts were


>"killed" while distracting the Reaper from Bannister and the woman's
>escape -- mostly because the weren't in the rest of the movie and *were*
>in Heaven.

Remember the line where Fox tells the newly dead workout guy that in
one year, he'll get another chance to go into the light?
This could mean that all those souls hanging around, weren't ready to
leave earth yet, but evey year, on the anniversary of their death, the
tunnel would open up for them and they could go if they wished.
As for the Reaper destroying the souls, I took it that he was sending
them away from earth on a direct route to heaven, _when they had
chosen to stay_, so they would not interfere with his murders.


adamsco...@gmail.com

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Apr 25, 2019, 5:47:13 AM4/25/19
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I know this post is years old but it's the first thing on Google. I HAVE THE ANSWER.

Judge is missing from the end of the movie in heaven because he was originally meant to be in the end shot. but they deleted the scene.

In the novel, frank is back at his house at the end tearing it down. Which is shown briefly in the movie. But in the book. Judge comes up torn in half still, riding on the ghost dog, like it's his horse. And judges legs are walking behind them. Life of it's own. Judge says hes going out west, when Frank asks why hes still here. The dog and judge hop out and disappear. When I read this I was gutted it was missing from the movie. It's so perfect for his send off and insulting they just deleted it. Took me years to realise his send off was missing too. Til I read the book.
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