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skobet

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:45:00 AM1/30/02
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Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
Who was the worst of all time?
Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?

T Berk

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Jan 30, 2002, 6:33:40 AM1/30/02
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- I didn't think Madonna was embarrassing, she might have embarrassed
others though. Damage?

- Farrah overmedicated herself, perhaps mixed with a drink or two,
possible to overcome jitters. (Poor dear.)

I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.

TBerk

Jay

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:03:07 AM1/30/02
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The late Oliver Reed's drunken antics on BBC's Parkinson (IIRC?) was
classic. Standard lager lout behaviour. Yanks take note.

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'Till I'm gone,
And you study my bones
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crofter

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:14:13 AM1/30/02
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ex footballer george best on 'wogan', a few years back.
prime time tv, absolutely rat assed, swearing away. recent
show though, he seems more (sober) sharp...

Bob

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:53:36 AM1/30/02
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T Berk wrote:

> )
>
> I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
>
> TBerk

I got a flash of a large, flat topped ship sinking when I read the above.

:-)
Bob


Bob

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:54:18 AM1/30/02
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crofter wrote:

What is 'wogan'??
Bob

Cardinal Chunder

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:31:31 AM1/30/02
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T Berk wrote:


Read and listen to what a very drunk Serge Gainsbourg said first in
French and then in English to Whitney Houston.

http://www.prioryv.demon.co.uk/media6.htm

Classic.

o.j.smith

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:11:58 AM1/30/02
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a chat show hosted by terry wogan.

Bob

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:29:52 AM1/30/02
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"o.j.smith" wrote:

Where? I have never heard of it.
Bob

Jay

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:38:47 AM1/30/02
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"Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Don't worry about it Bob. It's a UK thing.

Juste

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:47:41 AM1/30/02
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"Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>

One of the most popular chat shows in the U.K. i believe.

Juste
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yet we keep looking through the eyeglass in reverse.
Can't feed the people but we feed the machines,
can't really feel what international means"
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Paul Brinkley

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:02:37 AM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:
>What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
>Who was the worst of all time?
>Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?

Every episode of Magic. (ba-dum-bum)

Totus arx occupamur nos.
Paul Brinkley
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seuito

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:06:18 AM1/30/02
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T Berk <tb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<3C57DA14...@mindspring.com>...

I seem to recall a deeply weird Letterman encounter with Crispin
Glover that (*almost*) involved martial arts... Brrr!

kassa

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:10:54 AM1/30/02
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Let's see -- Andy Kaufman attacking Jerry Lawler (?sp)
on Letterman in his wrestling stage, although he doubtless
did it intentionally.

Crispin Glover (when was the last time you thought of THAT guy?)
on Letterman, kicked at Letterman's head and was no longer there
after the commercial break.

kassa

Bill Binkelman

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:20:49 AM1/30/02
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sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote in message news:<d3ee476b.02013...@posting.google.com>...

Crispin Glover's totally spaced-out appearance on Letterman many years
ago may qualify (among the things he did was nearly knock Letterman
out while showing him his (Glover's) karate kicking ability, as well
as exhibiting so much weirdness that Letterman was literally stunned
by it all (you should have seen the look on Letterman's face - utter
shock!) and Letterman appeared visibly shaken when they came back from
commercial - and Glover was gone. Glover more or less disappeared for
awhile after that. I think everyone in Hollywood was afraid of him
after that, i.e. directors, casting agents, etc. I remember watching
that Letterman show and thinking "Man, this guy is nuts." I think this
was shortly after the first BTTF was released.

Bill B

PS Is Glover really that nuts? I mean, has he ever played someone not
whacked? Look at his eyes in CHARLIE'S ANGELS - is there an intellect
back there somewhere?

Schrodinger

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:22:47 AM1/30/02
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<snippety>

>
>
> Read and listen to what a very drunk Serge Gainsbourg said first in
> French and then in English to Whitney Houston.
>
> http://www.prioryv.demon.co.uk/media6.htm
>
> Classic.
>

Heh. That was brilliant!


Bob

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:40:29 AM1/30/02
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Jay wrote:

> "Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3C580360...@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> >
> > "o.j.smith" wrote:
> >
> > > Bob wrote:
> > > >
> > > > crofter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ex footballer george best on 'wogan', a few years back.
> > > > > prime time tv, absolutely rat assed, swearing away. recent
> > > > > show though, he seems more (sober) sharp...
> > > >
> > > > What is 'wogan'??
> > >
> > > a chat show hosted by terry wogan.
> >
> > Where? I have never heard of it.
> > Bob
> >
> Don't worry about it Bob. It's a UK thing.
>

Ah. Thanks, Jay.
Bob


Bob

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:41:23 AM1/30/02
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Juste wrote:

> "Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3C580360...@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> >
> > "o.j.smith" wrote:
> >
> > > Bob wrote:
> > > >
> > > > crofter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ex footballer george best on 'wogan', a few years back.
> > > > > prime time tv, absolutely rat assed, swearing away. recent
> > > > > show though, he seems more (sober) sharp...
> > > >
> > > > What is 'wogan'??
> > >
> > > a chat show hosted by terry wogan.
> >
> > Where? I have never heard of it.
> > Bob
> >
>
> One of the most popular chat shows in the U.K. i believe.
>
> Juste

Ah, well that would explain it. We don't get it in Sacramento, Calif.
Thanks for the info.
Bob

DanRydell

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:51:21 AM1/30/02
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sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote in message news:<d3ee476b.02013...@posting.google.com>...
> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> Who was the worst of all time?

Andy Kaufman's mano-a-mano on Letterman certainly is infamous.

shouse

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Jan 30, 2002, 5:50:54 AM1/30/02
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A couple interesting things happened on the old Dick Cavett show. There's
Lester Maddox riding his bicycle backward. Then there was the time that Dick
repremanded Redd Foxx for "doing schtick" with the audience while Dick was
interviewing another guest.

Kevin FilmNutBoy

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:01:11 AM1/30/02
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Richard Pryor certainly proved he had no class on the occasional TV show.

--Kevin

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"To you, I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the loyal opposition."

Jim S.

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:16:17 AM1/30/02
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Bill Binkelman wrote:

> PS Is Glover really that nuts? I mean, has he ever played someone not whacked? Look at his eyes in
> CHARLIE'S ANGELS - is there an intellect back there somewhere?

Check this out:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000003BG6/qid=1012407342/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_74_2/102-5419011-3486534

--
Jim S.


Chris Pisarra

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:21:49 AM1/30/02
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"shouse" wrote


There was Cavetto telling Norman Mailer to "fold it five ways
and stick it where the sun don't shine".

And the most career ending performance of all, didn't someone
have a heart attack and die on Cavetto's show once?

Chris


Kathy

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:20:46 AM1/30/02
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shouse wrote:

Also, one of Cavett's guests died of a heart attack in his chair while the
show was going on. Cavett was talking to another guest when it happened.

kathy


Mike S.

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:23:35 AM1/30/02
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In article <3C5846E6...@bellatlantic.net>,

Jerome Rodale, publisher of Prevention magazine.

He had proclaimed that he would live to some ripe old age (100?) because
of his healthful eating habits ... and died on the spot.

Chris Pisarra

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:28:07 AM1/30/02
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I wrote

> There was Cavetto telling Norman Mailer to "fold it five ways
> and stick it where the sun don't shine".
>
> And the most career ending performance of all, didn't someone
> have a heart attack and die on Cavetto's show once?


And the first-class spell checker on Outlook Express changed
Cavett to Cavetto. Who the heck is Cavetto? I'll try not to use the
spell checker ** this ** time or the message will really be
unintelligible.

Chris


Jay

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:30:16 AM1/30/02
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"Kevin FilmNutBoy" <filmn...@aol.commode> wrote in message
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> Richard Pryor certainly proved he had no class on the occasional TV show.

Crack tends to have that kind of effect.

starcro1

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Jan 30, 2002, 11:35:52 AM1/30/02
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"skobet" <sko...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> Who was the worst of all time?
> Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?

Marilyn Sokol, a beautiful actress, singer and comedienne who was a
talk-show favorite in the 1970s, had just finished a stage performance on
"The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" (I mentioned this on USENET
before, and there was disagreement as to whether the performance was a song
or a comedy sketch). When Sokol took a bow, her long skirt flew up and
revealed that she wasn't wearing panties. It was apparently an accident,
because she apologized profusely afterward. Carson made a quip about "The
first full moon of the year" and moved on. But I never saw Sokol on a talk
show again.

Of course, the biggest embarassment on a talk show was in 1971, when health
food guru and author Jerome Rodale appeared on "The Dick Cavett Show" on
ABC. The 72-year-old Rodale proclaimed himself to be in perfect health and
that natural foods would help him live to be 100. Later, while Cavett was
interviewing another guest, Rodale quietly nodded off on the guest couch --
and died. The prerecorded show never aired, but Cavett has said that cameras
continued to roll as stagehands and paramedics tried in vain to revive
Rodale. After this incident, Cavett got rid of the guest couch, and got his
guests off the set immediately after the interview was over. Not long after
that, Cavett adopted the just-one-guest-per-show format he later used on
PBS.


Jeff Coleman

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:08:32 PM1/30/02
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"T Berk" <tb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> skobet wrote:
> >

> > Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> > Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> > What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> > Who was the worst of all time?
> > Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>

> - I didn't think Madonna was embarrassing, she might have embarrassed
> others though. Damage?

I dunno, Madonna was HIGH--she was giggling and laughing and kept asking
Letterman if he "smoked endo."

Dave replied, "I'll put that on my list... SMOKE some ENdo..."

Maybe not embarrassing, necessarily, but it was funny as hell!

Jeff
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www.isaacpriestley.com
Latest album "Days of Being Dumb"
available for download now!

Jeff Coleman

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"Schrodinger" <wibble.sc...@wibble.barrysworld.com> wrote in message
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Serge was THE MAN!

Bob Cumbers

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:12:55 PM1/30/02
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> I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
>
> TBerk

Andy Kaufman on Letterman (with the wrestler). It was set up but I
don't think he made too many mainstream appearences after that show.

John Smith

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:12:16 PM1/30/02
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shouse wrote:

And remember Maddox walking offstage after an exchange with Dick Gregory? Now
THAT was television at its best.

John


John Smith

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:12:56 PM1/30/02
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Chris Pisarra wrote:

Cavetto? Who's Cavetto?

John

John Smith

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:14:15 PM1/30/02
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Chris Pisarra wrote:

Actually, I kinda like that. "Hey, ma. Cavetto's on the box!" Strangely
cool.

John

Ronald O. Christian

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:32:04 PM1/30/02
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There was an interview with Britney Spears recently, where she
describes popping out of her dress just before meeting with reporters.
Apparently she was using a push-up bra with a low neckline and upon
mounting the stairs, hydraulics took their course. She said she
hadn't noticed that she had become exposed, and her dresser had to run
across the stage and (this is a direct quote) "push the boob back into
the dress".

I remember thinking, "Wow. Unintentional humor."


Ron
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"If UN peacekeeping had been involved during the US civil war,
it'd still be going on today."

ets

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:43:55 PM1/30/02
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Crispin Glover made a really weird appearance on Letterman one time
that I think ended with him trying to kick Dave. I don't know whether
he had much of a career to ruin, but anybody watching would probably
have thought twice about hiring him.

/ets

Derek Janssen

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:57:52 PM1/30/02
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T Berk wrote:
>
> skobet wrote:
> >
> > Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> > Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> > Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>
> - I didn't think Madonna was embarrassing, she might have embarrassed
> others though. Damage?
>
> - Farrah overmedicated herself, perhaps mixed with a drink or two,
> possible to overcome jitters. (Poor dear.)
>
> I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.

Outside of the obvious Crispin Glover (the bar to measure singlehanded
talk-show career-destruction by), can't think of anyone else who
actually *cause-and-effect* destroyed their career from one appearance--

Recall people complaining loudly about Robin Williams'
uncharacteristically bored, desperate and unspontaneous appearance on
one David Letterman, until one puts it in proper historical perspective,
and considers he was sent to plug "Being Human" at the time...

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

Derek Janssen

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:03:31 PM1/30/02
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Jay wrote:
>
> The late Oliver Reed's drunken antics on BBC's Parkinson (IIRC?) was
> classic. Standard lager lout behaviour. Yanks take note.

Don't worry, we did:
A few days after Crispin Glover's infamous David Letterman appearance
(and mysteriously quick exit--"Er, he said he had to catch a late taxi,
folks"), Oliver was scheduled for a guest shot, to promote his recent
comeback art-film--

Reed arrived noticeably gilled, pretending to be a "Dallas" character
(Letterman: "...Yes, it's fun to pretend, isn't it?"), and wouldn't
drop the act--About halfway through the interview, Letterman leaned over
and said, "Y'know...I've bailed out on these before." Reed was a good
boy for the rest of the interview.

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

Derek Janssen

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:11:50 PM1/30/02
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Bob Cumbers wrote:
>
> > I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
>
> Andy Kaufman on Letterman (with the wrestler). It was set up but I
> don't think he made too many mainstream appearences after that show.

Rescued by Dave's classic response:
[after Andy's obviously planned stunt of launching into a two-minute
string of profanities, all blipped]
"...<long pause>...Y'know, I think you actually CAN say a few of those
words on TV."

As for David Lee Roth trying to promote his (failed) late-90's comeback
attempt on Jay Leno, however...oh, lordy. I've only *heard* the legend.
0_0

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

Derek Janssen

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:21:03 PM1/30/02
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Bill Binkelman wrote:
>
> > Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>
> Crispin Glover's totally spaced-out appearance on Letterman many years
> ago may qualify (among the things he did was nearly knock Letterman
> out while showing him his (Glover's) karate kicking ability, as well
> as exhibiting so much weirdness that Letterman was literally stunned
> by it all (you should have seen the look on Letterman's face - utter
> shock!) and Letterman appeared visibly shaken when they came back from
> commercial - and Glover was gone. Glover more or less disappeared for
> awhile after that.

Well, not *shaken*, per se, but after explaining about Glover's "late
taxi" that he "apologized for having to catch", Dave sympathetically
bent Paul Schaffer's ear for the three fill-in minutes with "I mean, I'm
forty years old, trying to put out a good show, and I don't need
this...this GOOFBALL trying to kick me in the head!"

> PS Is Glover really that nuts? I mean, has he ever played someone not
> whacked? Look at his eyes in CHARLIE'S ANGELS - is there an intellect
> back there somewhere?

Glover's management tried to make peace with the show, and had him on
two months later, normal this time (ie. NOT playing his "Reuben & Ed"
character, like audiences would've had a single clue one way or the
other anyway), and showing off some of the art he'd made for a local exhibition--

...Can't recall the specific art, but let's just say it didn't help.

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

Cardinal Chunder

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Jan 30, 2002, 1:24:28 PM1/30/02
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Jay wrote:


>>>>What is 'wogan'??
>>>>
>>>a chat show hosted by terry wogan.
>>>
>>Where? I have never heard of it.
>>Bob
>>
>>

> Don't worry about it Bob. It's a UK thing.


The show has been defunct for a long while now. It had its moments but
was mainly a tired mishmash of grade B-Z celebs hawking some
show/movie/book/song.

The most infamous interview I recall was with David Icke. Before, Icke
had been a goalkeeper and later a respected BBC sports presenter but
then he went off the rails, declaring himself to be the son of god and
wearing only lilac tracksuits for some reason.

Wogan interviewed him soon after and famously said while Icke was
expounding on his whacked out ideas to a chortling audience, "The
audience aren't laughing with you, they're laughing at you."

Icke is now a self-styled new-age/conspiracy guru - expert in all things
related to UFOs, psychic powers, crystal healing, crop circles,
illuminati, tarot, ley lines etc. In other words, he's still nuts.

BQueen

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Oh, and there was the time that Barbara Hershey Seagull was on with
then-boyfriend David Carradine and their baby Free (I *think* that was
the baby's name.) When kid began wailing, BHS commenced broadcast
breast-feeding.

The look on Cavett's face was priceless!

BQ

BQueen

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Oh, and there was the time that Barbara Hershey Seagull was on with

Gillian White

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"Cardinal Chunder" <c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
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> Jay wrote:
>
>
> >>>>What is 'wogan'??
> >>>>
> >>>a chat show hosted by terry wogan.
> >>>
> >>Where? I have never heard of it.
> >>Bob
> >>
> >>
> > Don't worry about it Bob. It's a UK thing.
>
>
> The show has been defunct for a long while now. It had its moments but
> was mainly a tired mishmash of grade B-Z celebs hawking some
> show/movie/book/song.
>
> The most infamous interview I recall was with David Icke. Before, Icke
> had been a goalkeeper and later a respected BBC sports presenter but
> then he went off the rails, declaring himself to be the son of god and
> wearing only lilac tracksuits for some reason.
>
Remember when Russell Harty was in the chair instead, and Grace Jones
walloped him one because she thought he was ignoring her ?

And the infamous Oliver Reed episode - that was a classic....

Gillian


Fluzerator

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I suppose the ultimately everything pales in comparison to the guest
who died on Dick Cavett's show in 1971. Jerome Rodale, a health guru
who was positive that he'd live to 100 unless sugar killed him, kicked
off in the middle of the show. Hard to top that for embarrassment.

Details here for the interested:

http://www.snopes2.com/spoons/noose/dead.htm#cavett

Default User

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Chris Pisarra wrote:

> And the first-class spell checker on Outlook Express changed
> Cavett to Cavetto. Who the heck is Cavetto? I'll try not to use the
> spell checker ** this ** time or the message will really be
> unintelligible.

Well, everybody knows:

Main Entry: ca·vet·to
Pronunciation: k&-'ve-(")tO, kä-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ca·vet·ti /-tE/
Etymology: Italian, from cavo hollow, from Latin cavus
Date: 1664
: a concave molding having a curve that approximates a quarter circle
-- see MOLDING illustration


Brian Rodenborn

Susan M. Sanders

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Jan 30, 2002, 2:28:43 PM1/30/02
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In article <7475da61.02013...@posting.google.com>,
Fluze...@yahoo.com (Fluzerator) wrote:

> I suppose the ultimately everything pales in comparison to the guest
> who died on Dick Cavett's show in 1971. Jerome Rodale, a health guru
> who was positive that he'd live to 100 unless sugar killed him, kicked
> off in the middle of the show. Hard to top that for embarrassment.

Yeah, but Chevy Chase sure tried, and he did it night afer night after
night . . .

Olsen

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"Chris Pisarra" <Ch...@Pisarra.com> wrote in message
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>
> "shouse" wrote

> There was Cavetto telling Norman Mailer to "fold it five ways
> and stick it where the sun don't shine".
>

And when asked where he got the line he said "surely I don't have to quote
Tolstoy to you."


k8t

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I saw an episode of the Daily Show with Matthew McConaughey as the guest and
he was so obviously on something, he went on this whole long 10 minute story
about his goats having sex. I also saw a Letterman episode with Chris Kattan
where he just made a huge ass out of himself, and you could tell Dave was
obviously getting peeved
k8t
-=(perpetual omnipotence)=-
World peace is declared, and
the foxes have a sincere intrest
in prolonging the lives of the
poultry.

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> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.

> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> Who was the worst of all time?

Matt Miller

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In article <3C57DA14...@mindspring.com>, tb...@mindspring.com
says...

>I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.

At Midway the Japanese lost three carriers. This was largely due to
to the fact that they were all loading up planes for an attack on the
Enterprise. When they were hit by American dive-bombers the explosions
set of the munitions and fuel that had been brought out on deck. These
explosions reached down into the lower levels of the ships setting off
further explosions.

It's unlikely that the American attack would have been successful
otherwise as the bombers were not outfitted with bombs that would be
likely to penetrate the deck. So you could say that the the Japanese
destroyed their own carriers.

--
-Matt Miller
Now available in mint!

Derek Janssen

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k8t wrote:
>
> I also saw a Letterman episode with Chris Kattan
> where he just made a huge ass out of himself, and you could tell Dave was
> obviously getting peeved

And then there was the time Mandy Patinkin made a musial Letterman
appearance to promote his rampantly self-indulgent Broadway-showtunes tour--

Didn't catch it, but the next night found Dave frequently humming "Over
the Rainbow", and, as he explained it, "Sorry, for those who didn't tune
in last night, we had Mandy Patinkin on the show singing some showtunes
or other-- Just, er...who knew it would go on for half an hour? @_@ "

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

Nivek Edrof

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"Gillian White" <gillia...@mail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > >>>>
> > >>>a chat show hosted by terry wogan.
> > >>>
> > >>Where? I have never heard of it.
> > >>Bob
> > >>
> > > Don't worry about it Bob. It's a UK thing.
> >
> >
<snip>

>
> And the infamous Oliver Reed episode - that was a classic....
>

That was on the Des O'Connor show (although he was drunk on lots of other
chat shows that I remember).
Des asked Oliver "is it true you have a certain tatoo in a certain place?".
Reed answered yes.
Des began sniggering and asked "where is it?", expecting Mr. Reed to be as
embarrassed as he seemed to be. "On my cock" answered Oliver.

It was a live show -and was cancelled after that.

-Kevin.

David Johnston

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:14:54 PM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:

>Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
>Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
>What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?

Kirstie Alley appeared on the Merv Griffin show riding a tremendous
cocaine high and came off as rather insane.

>Who was the worst of all time?
>Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?

I doubt anyone has ever destroyed their career with a single talk show
appearance.

Nivek Edrof

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"David Johnston" <rgo...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:3c58552e...@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net...

> On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:
>
> I doubt anyone has ever destroyed their career with a single talk show
> appearance.
>

Dougie Small -again on Wogan in the UK. About 15 years ago. He had just won
a BIG television "new act" contest show (he was/ is a comedian) and his star
was rising.
On Wogan he didn't do much harm but he tried desperately to get laughs and
just everything went against him... he was *awful*. Talk about a comedian
dying! He died big time. Just about EVERYBODY watching him could see the
fear in his eyes from the off and as a result he raised not a titter.

...And he was never seen again. As far as I know he is still working holiday
clubs.

-Kevin.

effuhz

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Thandie Newton on the Daily Show: She was there to promote "Mission:
Impossible 2." She basically just gave confused one-word responses to all
of Jon Stewart's questions

A similar thing happened when Stephen Rea was on the program. Either Jon
had not done enough research or Stephen was not amused by Jon's questions.
Nonetheless, the interview ended in about 2-3 minutes despite the fact that
Stephen flew all the way from Ireland to be on the show.

effuhz

"skobet" <sko...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?

Cardinal Chunder

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:40:58 PM1/30/02
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David Johnston wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:
>
>
>>Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
>>Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
>>What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
>>
>
> Kirstie Alley appeared on the Merv Griffin show riding a tremendous
> cocaine high and came off as rather insane.


Kirstie Alley is a scientologist so it's a matter of opinion whether
she's rather insane whether she's riding a cocaine high or not.

Kevin S. Wilson

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Jan 30, 2002, 4:44:13 PM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 07:20:49 -0800, wbink...@gw.hamline.edu (Bill
Binkelman) wrote:

>sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote in message news:<d3ee476b.02013...@posting.google.com>...


>> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
>> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
>> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?

>> Who was the worst of all time?
>> Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>

>Crispin Glover's totally spaced-out appearance on Letterman many years
>ago may qualify (among the things he did was nearly knock Letterman
>out while showing him his (Glover's) karate kicking ability, as well
>as exhibiting so much weirdness that Letterman was literally stunned
>by it all (you should have seen the look on Letterman's face - utter
>shock!) and Letterman appeared visibly shaken when they came back from
>commercial - and Glover was gone. Glover more or less disappeared for

>awhile after that. I think everyone in Hollywood was afraid of him
>after that, i.e. directors, casting agents, etc. I remember watching
>that Letterman show and thinking "Man, this guy is nuts." I think this
>was shortly after the first BTTF was released.

That was my initial reaction, too. However, over the years I've had an
opportunity to view the tape dozens of times and I've reached a
different conclusion.

>Bill B


>
>PS Is Glover really that nuts? I mean, has he ever played someone not
>whacked? Look at his eyes in CHARLIE'S ANGELS - is there an intellect
>back there somewhere?

I've come to believe that Glover's odd exchange with Letterman has its
beginnings in Glover's role on "Happy Days." Much like Robert Reed
(Mark Brady on "The Brady Bunch"), Crispin Glove was a classically
trained actor stuck in a recurring role on a TV sitcom that he
despised. And like Reed, Glover let everyone from the producer to the
publicist know of his unhappiness with the show, with his fellow cast
members, and with the direction his career was taking. That he and
Reed have been identified in the press as homosexual is also not
surprising, given the other similarities between the two.

When Glove appeared on Letterman, everything he did seemed calculated
to distance himself--in the audience's mind at least--from his role on
"Happy Days." Consider, for instance, the bell-bottom pants and
platform shoes he was wearing. They practically cry out, "I'm NOT that
apple-cheeked kid growing up in the 1950s!"

That's my take on it, anyway. Any other ideas?
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho

baxter monroe

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:22:49 PM1/30/02
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David Johnston wrote in message
<3c58552e...@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...

I think Rosie came awefully damn close - on her own talk show too.

baxter


Derek Janssen

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Jan 30, 2002, 5:47:47 PM1/30/02
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David Johnston wrote:
>
> >Who was the worst of all time?
> >Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>
> I doubt anyone has ever destroyed their career with a single talk show
> appearance.

Not even Uri Geller's legendary appearance on the "Tonight" Show:

(For those who don't know the legend:
Johnny Carson had a stage-magic background, and wanted to prevent any
psychic "trickery" by hiring James Randi as consultant. Randi's advice:
Keep the watches, spoons, etc. in plastic bags and don't let any of
Geller's people handle them before the show--
That night, Geller seemed oddly rattled, more desperate for
conversation, and strangely hesitant to do his tricks...)

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

jaded bitch

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Jan 30, 2002, 5:49:37 PM1/30/02
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"Mike S." wrote:

> In article <3C5846E6...@bellatlantic.net>,
> Kathy <kb...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:


> >shouse wrote:
> >
> >> A couple interesting things happened on the old Dick Cavett show. There's
> >> Lester Maddox riding his bicycle backward. Then there was the time that Dick
> >> repremanded Redd Foxx for "doing schtick" with the audience while Dick was
> >> interviewing another guest.
> >

> >Also, one of Cavett's guests died of a heart attack in his chair while the
> >show was going on. Cavett was talking to another guest when it happened.
>
> Jerome Rodale, publisher of Prevention magazine.
>
> He had proclaimed that he would live to some ripe old age (100?) because
> of his healthful eating habits ... and died on the spot.

God doesn't like boasting.

jaded

Andy Averill

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Jan 30, 2002, 6:02:23 PM1/30/02
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"Derek Janssen" <dja...@ultranet.com> wrote in message
news:3C58398D...@ultranet.com...

> Bill Binkelman wrote:
> >
> > > Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
> >
> > Crispin Glover's totally spaced-out appearance on Letterman many years
> > ago may qualify (among the things he did was nearly knock Letterman
> > out while showing him his (Glover's) karate kicking ability, as well
> > as exhibiting so much weirdness that Letterman was literally stunned
> > by it all (you should have seen the look on Letterman's face - utter
> > shock!) and Letterman appeared visibly shaken when they came back from
> > commercial - and Glover was gone. Glover more or less disappeared for
> > awhile after that.

Not quite -- in fact he called Dave in a panic a few days later and begged
him to book him one more time so he could redeem himself. Soft-hearted Dave
agreed, and Glover came back as a different character -- acting very scared
and giggling the whole time. Dave said something like, "I like you about 1%
better this time." And that really was the last appearance.

Same thing happened with a guy billing himself as The World's Fastest
Hypnotist. He was so creepy and unnatural that Dave kept cracking jokes the
whole time and the guy wasn't able to hypnotize any audience members. Later
he complained and Dave had him back, but he was just as creepy. He's got an
infomercial now, but I can't remember his name.


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Rita Hansard

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Jan 30, 2002, 6:52:40 PM1/30/02
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Matt Miller wrote:

I think this is the best newsgroup article I've ever read. :)

Brian Trosko

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:13:07 PM1/30/02
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In rec.arts.movies.current-films Kevin S. Wilson <res...@micron.net> wrote:
> "Happy Days." Consider, for instance, the bell-bottom pants and
> platform shoes he was wearing. They practically cry out, "I'm NOT that
> apple-cheeked kid growing up in the 1950s!"

No, what they scream out is "I'm a freaky whackjob moron growing up in the
1970s!"

Great move, Cris.

Sarah

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:22:50 PM1/30/02
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I seem to remember a frequent guest on Letterman, Terri Garr, once
bring a few old clips of Letterman doing the weather or something
similiar to that. He seemed to have gotten really pissed off and Terri
actually looked close to tears by the end of the segment. I never
really saw her on the show again after that.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:33:12 -0500, "effuhz" <eff...@excite.com>
wrote:

MJF

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"Nivek Edrof" <ne...@SPAMNOkevinforde.com> wrote in message
news:MyZ58.2100$D6....@news.iol.ie...

I saw this on a special compilation show recently...I felt so embarrassed
for the man. It made me cringe! Yes, he is still working the holiday
circuit and local bingo parlours playing to OAPs. And he's still doing the
SAME EXACT ACT.
MJF


explorer

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:41:36 PM1/30/02
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Bobcat Goldthwait's arson of the Leno set.

"kassa" <ka...@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:dc0f5f69.02013...@posting.google.com...
> Let's see -- Andy Kaufman attacking Jerry Lawler (?sp)
> on Letterman in his wrestling stage, although he doubtless
> did it intentionally.
>
> Crispin Glover (when was the last time you thought of THAT guy?)
> on Letterman, kicked at Letterman's head and was no longer there
> after the commercial break.
>
> kassa


explorer

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:43:27 PM1/30/02
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"Paul Brinkley" <la...@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:sm2g5us3teme5ipm7...@4ax.com...

> On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:
> >What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> >Who was the worst of all time?
> >Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>
> Every episode of Magic. (ba-dum-bum)

Every minute of the Chevy Chase show -- infinitely more painful than Magic.


David Matthews

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:57:46 PM1/30/02
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> > >Also, one of Cavett's guests died of a heart attack in his chair while
the
> > >show was going on. Cavett was talking to another guest when it
happened.
> >


I remember Cavett talking about that afterwards. He realised something was
wrong and was first going to ask "Is there a doctor in the house?" but then
realised just before he spoke that it would probably just get a laugh.

Dave


explorer

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Jan 30, 2002, 7:51:01 PM1/30/02
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"Ronald O. Christian" <ro...@europa.com> wrote in message
news:fbbg5u89gkvr6j1t6...@4ax.com...
>
> There was an interview with Britney Spears recently, where she
> describes popping out of her dress just before meeting with reporters.
> Apparently she was using a push-up bra with a low neckline and upon
> mounting the stairs, hydraulics took their course. She said she
> hadn't noticed that she had become exposed, and her dresser had to run
> across the stage and (this is a direct quote) "push the boob back into
> the dress".
>
> I remember thinking, "Wow. Unintentional humor."
>
What? She can't figure out how to push her own boob back into the dress?
Now THAT'S dumb.


Doonie

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:00:11 PM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, skobet wrote:

>Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
>Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.

>What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
>Who was the worst of all time?
>Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?

Michael Richards wasn't too impressive on the talk show he appeared
on (Letterman? Can't remember..) just before his doomed sitcom aired.
It was hard to watch. =\

--
"I never trust a man that doesn't drink." - John Wayne

(Probably not what he was thinking when they were taking out his stomach)

Ronald O. Christian

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:11:29 PM1/30/02
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In all fairness, she didn't realize it was out.

That wasn't the joke.

Ron
www.europa.com/~ronc
"If UN peacekeeping had been involved during the US civil war,
it'd still be going on today."

David Matthews

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"Rita Hansard" <r_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3C588748...@hotmail.com...

>
>
> Matt Miller wrote:
>
> > In article <3C57DA14...@mindspring.com>, tb...@mindspring.com
> > says...
> >
> > >I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
> >
> > At Midway the Japanese lost three carriers. This was largely due
to
> > to the fact that they were all loading up planes for an attack on the
> > Enterprise. When they were hit by American dive-bombers the explosions
> > set of the munitions and fuel that had been brought out on deck. These
> > explosions reached down into the lower levels of the ships setting off
> > further explosions.
> >
> > It's unlikely that the American attack would have been
successful
> > otherwise as the bombers were not outfitted with bombs that would be
> > likely to penetrate the deck. So you could say that the the Japanese
> > destroyed their own carriers.

Matt Miller


>
> I think this is the best newsgroup article I've ever read. :)


Agreed,both clever and funny.

Dave


Kilroy Bass

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:15:30 PM1/30/02
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Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote in message news:<fbbg5u89gkvr6j1t6...@4ax.com>...
> There was an interview with Britney Spears recently, where she
> describes popping out of her dress just before meeting with reporters.
> Apparently she was using a push-up bra with a low neckline and upon
> mounting the stairs, hydraulics took their course. She said she
> hadn't noticed that she had become exposed, and her dresser had to run
> across the stage and (this is a direct quote) "push the boob back into
> the dress".

Wow, a Tigerbeat devotee! Anyways, I'd love to have her assistant's
hands, but alas, I'll expect to have my hands full at Mardi Gras next
week.

Joel Cairo

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:21:16 PM1/30/02
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Well, there was that extended appearance that Chevy Chase had on a talk
show on FOX that pretty well 86'd any comeback he'd been thinking of... :^)

Seriously, though-- I think one of my favorites was when the legendary
head of Sun Records, Sam Phillips, came on Dave's NBC show absolutely
**dead drunk**, and proceded to mumble and slur his way through Dave's
best attempts to interview him.

Dave had Paul come over "to help Sam out", figuring that might smooth
things along, but the conversation (such as it was) came to an absolute
standstill, and Sam picked that moment to ask Dave what he was thinking.

Dave's reply was one of my favorite host responses, easily, I thought,
worthy of Carson:

"Just thinking of a nice way to say goodbye, Sam."

Sam, it seems, suddenly had to leave during the commercial that
immediately followed.

And unfortunately, I never saw them repeat **that** show.

-Joel Cairo

John Burrage

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:37:40 PM1/30/02
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res...@micron.net (Kevin S. Wilson) wrote:

>On 30 Jan 2002 07:20:49 -0800, wbink...@gw.hamline.edu (Bill
>Binkelman) wrote:
>
>>sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote in message news:<d3ee476b.02013...@posting.google.com>...
>>> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
>>> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
>>> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
>>> Who was the worst of all time?
>>> Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?

Does anyone remember when Alan Partridge accidentally shot guest
Forbes McAlister through the heart? That was one of the most
sickeningly horrifying moments of live TV I have ever witnessed.


--
John Burrage http://members.iinet.net.au/~burrage/
"Christ, there is a swarm of bees outside"
- Excerpt from old English bee prayer, c 1000.

Ronald O. Christian

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Jan 30, 2002, 8:29:36 PM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 17:15:30 -0800, kilro...@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass)
wrote:

>Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote in message news:<fbbg5u89gkvr6j1t6...@4ax.com>...
>> There was an interview with Britney Spears recently, where she
>> describes popping out of her dress just before meeting with reporters.
>> Apparently she was using a push-up bra with a low neckline and upon
>> mounting the stairs, hydraulics took their course. She said she
>> hadn't noticed that she had become exposed, and her dresser had to run
>> across the stage and (this is a direct quote) "push the boob back into
>> the dress".
>
>Wow, a Tigerbeat devotee!

Um no, I ran across it on the internet. Was the original source
"tiger beat"?

> Anyways, I'd love to have her assistant's
>hands, but alas, I'll expect to have my hands full at Mardi Gras next
>week.

I thought touching was gauche at mardi gras.

Clay Smith

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:09:26 PM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:

>Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
>Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
>What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
>Who was the worst of all time?
>Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?


I remember Pauly Shore, despite Dave's strenuous efforts to take it
easy on him (this was in the early stages of Dave's new "nice" phase),
embarrassing the living hell out of himself on Letterman.

Clay

Ronald O. Christian

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:40:59 PM1/30/02
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:09:26 -0600, Clay Smith
<Clay20...@softhome.net> wrote:
>I remember Pauly Shore, despite Dave's strenuous efforts to take it
>easy on him (this was in the early stages of Dave's new "nice" phase),
>embarrassing the living hell out of himself on Letterman.

Shore seems to embarrass himself no matter the venue. Is he still
alive? I haven't seen a trailer for a zany slacker comedy in awhile.

T Berk

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:47:06 PM1/30/02
to
Bob wrote:
>
> T Berk wrote:
>
> > )

> >
> > I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
> >
> > TBerk
>
> I got a flash of a large, flat topped ship sinking when I read the above.
>
> :-)
> Bob

Oops, well- It got past the spell checker.

b])


TBerk

T Berk

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Jan 30, 2002, 9:50:49 PM1/30/02
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Matt Miller wrote:
>
> In article <3C57DA14...@mindspring.com>, tb...@mindspring.com
> says...
>
> >I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
>
> At Midway the Japanese lost three carriers.
<snip>

>
> --
> -Matt Miller
> Now available in mint!

OK, OK, I apologized Already!

8])

TBerk

Kimberly Cole

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:02:19 PM1/30/02
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didn't some guest on a talk show set fire to his chair or something similar?
kjc


Derek Janssen

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:11:50 PM1/30/02
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"Ronald O. Christian" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:09:26 -0600, Clay Smith
> <Clay20...@softhome.net> wrote:
> >I remember Pauly Shore, despite Dave's strenuous efforts to take it
> >easy on him (this was in the early stages of Dave's new "nice" phase),
> >embarrassing the living hell out of himself on Letterman.
>
> Shore seems to embarrass himself no matter the venue. Is he still
> alive? I haven't seen a trailer for a zany slacker comedy in awhile.

His movie career's been over for a while*--
Had a short-lived TV sitcom for a couple weeks, then retired back to,
er...standup--At least I think that's what he was doing before.
Don't see much trace of him nowadays except for the occasional MTV
historical retrospective, every few hours.

(* - Think my favorite moment was the week "Dunston Checks In" opened at
#1 the same week "Bio-Dome" opened at #5--
Prompting Entertainment Weekly to poll seven studio greenlighting execs
and ask, "If you were offered a choice between a cute-orangutan comedy
and a Pauly Shore comedy, which would you option?"...
Now, you should KNOW which one all seven unanimously picked.) : )

Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com

John Savard

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:36:02 PM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 11:08:12 -0800, Fluze...@yahoo.com (Fluzerator)
wrote, in part:

>I suppose the ultimately everything pales in comparison to the guest
>who died on Dick Cavett's show in 1971. Jerome Rodale, a health guru
>who was positive that he'd live to 100 unless sugar killed him, kicked
>off in the middle of the show. Hard to top that for embarrassment.

I'd say that doesn't even qualify! How can you feel embarrassed when
you're dead?

However, that is still a terrible misfortune.

John Savard
http://plaza.powersurfr.com/jsavard/index.html

John Savard

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:37:07 PM1/30/02
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:40:58 GMT, Cardinal Chunder
<c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote, in part:
>David Johnston wrote:

>> Kirstie Alley appeared on the Merv Griffin show riding a tremendous
>> cocaine high and came off as rather insane.

>Kirstie Alley is a scientologist so it's a matter of opinion whether
>she's rather insane whether she's riding a cocaine high or not.

Maybe Scientology helped her quit using cocaine.

John Savard
http://plaza.powersurfr.com/jsavard/index.html

WATCH WITH SCALLY

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"Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Juste wrote:
>
> > "Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3C580360...@ix.netcom.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > "o.j.smith" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bob wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > crofter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ex footballer george best on 'wogan', a few years back.
> > > > > > prime time tv, absolutely rat assed, swearing away. recent
> > > > > > show though, he seems more (sober) sharp...
> > > > >
> > > > > What is 'wogan'??
> > > >
> > > > a chat show hosted by terry wogan.
> > >
> > > Where? I have never heard of it.
> > > Bob
> > >
> >
> > One of the most popular chat shows in the U.K. i believe.
> >
> > Juste
>
> Ah, well that would explain it. We don't get it in Sacramento, Calif.

Scally: I wouldn't worry about it. You wouldn't get it in the U.K. either.

Tune into tomorrow's column to wake up with the TOGS.


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The Nameless Horror

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:46:15 PM1/30/02
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On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:

>What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?

What could be the *most embarrassing* thing to happen on a talk show?

The only incident of what comes naturally to mind was...

on the David Letterman show, where Drew Barrymore went to take off her
raincoat, and she had

_nothing on_ underneath!

Oh yeah; that was *intentional*, and so she wasn't embarrassed.

The Nameless Horror

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Jan 30, 2002, 10:48:57 PM1/30/02
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:32:04 GMT, Ronald O. Christian
<ro...@europa.com> wrote:

>She said she
>hadn't noticed that she had become exposed, and her dresser had to run
>across the stage and (this is a direct quote) "push the boob back into
>the dress".

>I remember thinking, "Wow. Unintentional humor."

LOL, indeed.

Ah, well, the boob is back in her dress now.

Perhaps they've even worked out a hand signal, so that Britney can do
the job herself.

John Smith

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:05:38 AM1/31/02
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Matt Miller wrote:

> In article <3C57DA14...@mindspring.com>, tb...@mindspring.com
> says...
>
> >I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
>

> At Midway the Japanese lost three carriers. This was largely due to
> to the fact that they were all loading up planes for an attack on the
> Enterprise. When they were hit by American dive-bombers the explosions
> set of the munitions and fuel that had been brought out on deck. These
> explosions reached down into the lower levels of the ships setting off
> further explosions.
>
> It's unlikely that the American attack would have been successful
> otherwise as the bombers were not outfitted with bombs that would be
> likely to penetrate the deck. So you could say that the the Japanese
> destroyed their own carriers.
>

> --
> -Matt Miller
> Now available in mint!

Actually, they lost four carriers, three in one raid and the other in a raid
shortly after. The Akagi is rumoured to have been destroyed when a bomb
deflected off of the half risen elevator and skipped to the muntions storage.
Some say that the victory turned the course of the war in the Pacific. I go one
further, as I believe that it was the turning point of the entire war. While
the Allies, to that point, had victories, they wer defensive ones where the
Axiswas denied their plunder. From the crippling triumph at Midway, victories
accompanied with advances to the Axis capitals began to take place: El Alamein,
Guadalcanal, Kasserine Pass, Stalingrad, Sicily, Tarawa, Kursk, the Bismarck
Sea,Anzio, Rome...Normandy.

John

Malts

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:10:10 AM1/31/02
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A truly brilliant moment. My favorite moment is when Alan's trying to go on
with the show, and glibly reassures the audience that "He wouldn't have
suffered -- I shot him through the heart."

There's a video clip of it at:

http://www.atomicrage.co.uk/alan-partridge/kmky_tvep6c.html

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John Smith

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:09:12 AM1/31/02
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David Johnston wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote:
>

> >Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> >Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.

> >What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
>

> Kirstie Alley appeared on the Merv Griffin show riding a tremendous
> cocaine high and came off as rather insane.
>

> >Who was the worst of all time?
> >Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>

> I doubt anyone has ever destroyed their career with a single talk show
> appearance.

Richard Dimbleby (BBC), Bernie Braden (BBC), Joe McCarthy on Ed Murrow's
show (up to a point), there have been those who have suffered
irreversibly.

John

John Smith

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:16:40 AM1/31/02
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Doonie wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2002 01:45:00 -0800, skobet wrote:
>
> >Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> >Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> >What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> >Who was the worst of all time?
> >Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
>
> Michael Richards wasn't too impressive on the talk show he appeared
> on (Letterman? Can't remember..) just before his doomed sitcom aired.
> It was hard to watch. =\
>
> --
> "I never trust a man that doesn't drink." - John Wayne
>

Wasn't that Humphrey Bogart who said that?

John

John Smith

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:22:59 AM1/31/02
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Clay Smith wrote:

Like the time that Shore came on wearing a blue beaver-dyed jacket...right
after the curator of the Chicago (?) zoo (I forget her name) came on with
wild and exotic animals. Dave, in no uncertain terms, told Shore to remove
the offending jacket immediately. In Shore's defense, I don't think that
he was bright enough to understand the irony of the situation.

John

Bigolhomo

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:27:07 AM1/31/02
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"Kevin S. Wilson" <res...@micron.net> wrote in message
news:3c5866cc....@news.micron.net...

> On 30 Jan 2002 07:20:49 -0800, wbink...@gw.hamline.edu (Bill
> Binkelman) wrote:
>
> >sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote in message
news:<d3ee476b.02013...@posting.google.com>...
> >> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> >> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> >> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> >> Who was the worst of all time?
> >> Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?
> >
> >Crispin Glover's totally spaced-out appearance on Letterman many years
> >ago may qualify (among the things he did was nearly knock Letterman
> >out while showing him his (Glover's) karate kicking ability, as well
> >as exhibiting so much weirdness that Letterman was literally stunned
> >by it all (you should have seen the look on Letterman's face - utter
> >shock!) and Letterman appeared visibly shaken when they came back from
> >commercial - and Glover was gone. Glover more or less disappeared for
> >awhile after that. I think everyone in Hollywood was afraid of him
> >after that, i.e. directors, casting agents, etc. I remember watching
> >that Letterman show and thinking "Man, this guy is nuts." I think this
> >was shortly after the first BTTF was released.
>
> That was my initial reaction, too. However, over the years I've had an
> opportunity to view the tape dozens of times and I've reached a
> different conclusion.
>
> >Bill B
> >
> >PS Is Glover really that nuts? I mean, has he ever played someone not
> >whacked? Look at his eyes in CHARLIE'S ANGELS - is there an intellect
> >back there somewhere?
>
> I've come to believe that Glover's odd exchange with Letterman has its
> beginnings in Glover's role on "Happy Days." Much like Robert Reed
> (Mark Brady on "The Brady Bunch"), Crispin Glove was a classically
> trained actor stuck in a recurring role on a TV sitcom that he
> despised. And like Reed, Glover let everyone from the producer to the
> publicist know of his unhappiness with the show, with his fellow cast
> members, and with the direction his career was taking. That he and
> Reed have been identified in the press as homosexual is also not
> surprising, given the other similarities between the two.
>
> When Glove appeared on Letterman, everything he did seemed calculated
> to distance himself--in the audience's mind at least--from his role on
> "Happy Days." Consider, for instance, the bell-bottom pants and
> platform shoes he was wearing. They practically cry out, "I'm NOT that
> apple-cheeked kid growing up in the 1950s!"
>
> That's my take on it, anyway. Any other ideas?
> --
>

Ummm, was he even on Happy Days? He wasn't a regular, that's for sure. I
can't imagine that he felt pigeonholed by a few guest appearances. You need
an new theory.

Bigolhomo


John Burrage

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:51:59 AM1/31/02
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"Malts" <EdgarM...@msn.com> wrote:

>A truly brilliant moment. My favorite moment is when Alan's trying to go on
>with the show, and glibly reassures the audience that "He wouldn't have
>suffered -- I shot him through the heart."
>
>There's a video clip of it at:
>
>http://www.atomicrage.co.uk/alan-partridge/kmky_tvep6c.html

Truly, that would rate as one of the finest TV moments I've seen. In
fact, the whole episode was excellent.

(To anyone unfamiliar with the Partridge milleu, I heartily endorse
this product.)

Me

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:59:52 AM1/31/02
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Wasn't Lee majors on the Carson show years ago right after he had broken up
with Farrah ? The story I remember is that he was drunk , rambling, slurring
his speech ,and convinced johnny to come "sit down wtih him " at the front
of the stage near the audience. After the commercial break, Majors was gone
with no explanation. Had anyone else heard about this ?
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TMC_13

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Jan 31, 2002, 1:42:44 AM1/31/02
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wonga...@aol.comnojunk (Kimberly Cole) wrote in message news:<20020130220219...@mb-ct.aol.com>...

> didn't some guest on a talk show set fire to his chair or something similar?
> kjc

You must be thinking of comedian Bobcat Goldthwat of Police Academy
and mysteriously, Nikki Cox fame (the two are believe or not, have
reportedly, engaged to be married for quite some time now),
apparently, set the guests' chairs on fire while on the Tonight Show
with Jay Leno.

Liz B.

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Jan 30, 2002, 2:10:17 AM1/30/02
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Bob <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3C57ECD0...@ix.netcom.com...
>
>
> T Berk wrote:
>
> > )

> >
> > I can't recall anyone who destroyed their carrier this way.
> >
> > TBerk
>
> I got a flash of a large, flat topped ship sinking when I read the above.
>
> :-)
> Bob
>
>

I thought of insurance! Yikes.

LizB

TMC_13

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Jan 31, 2002, 2:19:23 AM1/31/02
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sko...@aol.com (skobet) wrote in message news:<d3ee476b.02013...@posting.google.com>...
> Madonna disgraced herself on Letterman a while back. So did Farrah
> Fawcett. Both redeemed themselves later. But the damage was done.
> What other celebrities had terrible talk show appearances?
> Who was the worst of all time?
> Who was able to redeem themselves, and who destroyed their careers?

I would really like to know the exact criteria for labeling a certain
moment "embarrassing?" I mean, is it simply embarrassing from the
standpoint of how bizarre and spontaneous the behavior was on part of
the guest as they in retrospect, made total fools out of themselves?
Or is it also embarrassing (if not already standing alone) from the
viewers' and hosts point of view when you put into consideration how
imfamous (which I guess, doesn't always have to center on the suddenly
wacked out behavior of the guests) the moment itself was all around.

In that case, how about the moment which the soon to be outgoing Rosie
O'Donnell Show more than likely "jumped the shark" (I bet you weren't
expecting that phrase to come back anytime soon weren't you) when she
practically ambushed and attempted to flat out villify Tom Selleck and
unjustly tried to relate his otherwise vague spokesman deals with the
NRA with the recent Columbine shootings. MTV's Total Request Live,
which if you cut out core of the show which is the video countdown and
crowd interplay, is in essence, a live talk show out in New York's
Time Square had some pretty low points in its own right (so it doesn't
have to be relagated to broadcast TV). Take for instance these
moments that stick out in my mind like a sore thumb:
*Liam Gallagher of the British rock group Oasis acting completely
indifferent while using what almost sounded like one word answers.

*Mariah Carey acting completely hyper-active and mayve even delusional
(she even "stripped" for a brief period) as it turned out to serve as
a precursor to her much publicized "breakdown" from a few months ago.

*The stars of the movie version of Charlie's Angels (and no, it's
really hard pressed that this particular moment if any, can top the
actions of Farrah Fawcett on David Letterman) promoting the
importance of voting for the young audience but then (quite shameless
and hypocritical if you ask me) at the exact same time, essentially
used the oppurtinity to strictly promote their best interests (besides
on lousy, already overhyped movie) by wearing baseball like t-shirts
that read "I Won't Vote for a Son of a Bush!"

Liam Devlin

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Jan 31, 2002, 2:50:20 AM1/31/02
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Cardinal Chunder wrote:
>

Ed Ames & his famous tomahawk throw on the Tonight show many years ago
(when Carson was still in NYC?).

Kevin FilmNutBoy

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Jan 31, 2002, 2:54:24 AM1/31/02
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Joel Cairo rerun...@attbi.com wrote:

>Seriously, though-- I think one of my favorites was when the legendary
>head of Sun Records, Sam Phillips, came on Dave's NBC show absolutely
>**dead drunk**, and proceded to mumble and slur his way through Dave's
>best attempts to interview him.
>
>Dave had Paul come over "to help Sam out", figuring that might smooth
>things along, but the conversation (such as it was) came to an absolute
>standstill, and Sam picked that moment to ask Dave what he was thinking.
>
>Dave's reply was one of my favorite host responses, easily, I thought,
>worthy of Carson:
>
>"Just thinking of a nice way to say goodbye, Sam."
>
>Sam, it seems, suddenly had to leave during the commercial that
>immediately followed.
>
>And unfortunately, I never saw them repeat **that** show.

I remember that show. Couldn't believe it.

I didn't realize Sam was drunk. I don't remember any slurring. To me, he just
seemed to be too bored with the whole talk show thing to even talk. He'd give
simple yes or no answers to Dave's questions, and Dave was left trying to fill
the dead air.

--Kevin

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