THE MATRIX is Getting a Reboot. Yay.

[BTR1701]

Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be any
howls of outrage over that, though.

--------

In case we've yet to realize Hollywood is mining every successful
franchise for a reboot of that money it made in the past, Warner Bros.
is now planning a reboot of THE MATRIX. Great.

It's still not clear what shape the project will take, but
sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Warner Bros. is in
the early stages of developing a relaunch of THE MATRIX, the
iconic 1999 sci-fi movie that is considered one of the most
original films in cinematic history, with Zak Penn in talks
to write a treatment. Sources say there is potential interest
in Michael B. Jordan to star, but much must be done before
the project is ready to go.

THE MATRIX is horribly dated, and let's not talk about the two sequels.
If they wanna save money and still give it the same social message, just
make the plot about Neo staring into his phone for two hours then
learning karate by watching a YouTube tutorial.

http://idly.craveonline.com/2017/03/the-matrix-reboot-michael-b-jordan/#/
slide/1

[Adam H. Kerman]

BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:

>Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be any
>howls of outrage over that, though.

Anti-Asian!

[David Johnston]

On 3/15/2017 8:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be any
> howls of outrage over that, though.
>
> --------
>
> In case we've yet to realize Hollywood is mining every successful
> franchise for a reboot of that money it made in the past, Warner Bros.
> is now planning a reboot of THE MATRIX. Great.
>
> It's still not clear what shape the project will take, but
> sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Warner Bros. is in
> the early stages of developing a relaunch of THE MATRIX, the
> iconic 1999 sci-fi movie that is considered one of the most
> original films in cinematic history,

Given how the sequels went off the rails I can see why. But maybe they
can dispense with insultingly stupid idea that humans can be practical
sources of electric power.

[Your Name]

In article <oacsnf$4js$1...@dont-email.me>, David Johnston

Humans aren't a practical source of anything ... just look at
Hollyweird and how they've (almost) completely run out of any semblance
of real creative talent these days and simply idiotically "reboot"
everything instead. :-(

[David Johnston]

He said, as if there ever a time when Hollywood didn't massively rely on
adaptations from other media and other languages when they weren't just
remaking films. But of course your belief that Shakespeare was a
worthless hack is noted.

[Your Name]

In article <oad69s$gj9$1...@dont-email.me>, David Johnston

<davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
> On 3/15/2017 9:13 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > In article <oacsnf$4js$1...@dont-email.me>, David Johnston
> > <davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/15/2017 8:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be any
> >>> howls of outrage over that, though.
> >>>

> >>> In case we've yet to realize Hollywood is mining every successful
> >>> franchise for a reboot of that money it made in the past, Warner Bros.
> >>> is now planning a reboot of THE MATRIX. Great.
> >>>
> >>> It's still not clear what shape the project will take, but
> >>> sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Warner Bros. is in
> >>> the early stages of developing a relaunch of THE MATRIX, the
> >>> iconic 1999 sci-fi movie that is considered one of the most
> >>> original films in cinematic history,
> >>
> >> Given how the sequels went off the rails I can see why. But maybe they
> >> can dispense with insultingly stupid idea that humans can be practical
> >> sources of electric power.
> >
> > Humans aren't a practical source of anything ... just look at
> > Hollyweird and how they've (almost) completely run out of any semblance
> > of real creative talent these days and simply idiotically "reboot"
> > everything instead. :-(
>
> He said, as if there ever a time when Hollywood didn't massively rely on
> adaptations from other media and other languages when they weren't just
> remaking films.

"Adaptations" are a different beast to lazy-ass "reboots".

> But of course your belief that Shakespeare was a worthless hack is noted.

It's not just my belief ... just ask 99% of school kids forced into
studying his boring, irrelevant crap.

Some people even believe that Shakespeare was really just a con artist
and the boring stories were really written by someone else.

[The Starmaker]

nobdy cant foreme to reed

[RichA]

Didn't see this. Ugh.

[David Johnston]

No. They aren't. They're reuse of an old story. It's the same thing.

[Ubiquitous]

davidjo...@block.com wrote:

>Given how the sequels went off the rails I can see why. But maybe they
>can dispense with insultingly stupid idea that humans can be practical
>sources of electric power.

Rick Sanchez did it without any problems.
Well, until that miniverse created its own miniverse as a power spurce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HU3Gn6gzOM

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have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.

[moviePig]

It won't be 'blackwashing' that dooms this project, but rather the fact
that the original smash hit owed to an okay story twist and a
mind-blowing visual-effect -- whereas, today, the story's well known,
and the effect is too tired even for TV commercials.

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[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

In article <58caa2c1$0$60315$c3e8da3$66d3...@news.astraweb.com>,

Next up? -- "The Sixth Sense" remake :-)
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[moviePig]

That's ridiculous. It'll be at least another 5 years. Well, maybe 4...

[Dimensional Traveler]

"I see white people."

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[Bastette]

BTR1701 wrote:

> Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be any
> howls of outrage over that, though.

If it totally sucks as a film - which it probably will because most reboots
do - I disagree. I'm sure there *will* be outrage.

On the miniscule chance that it turns out well, why should there be outrage?
From who?


Bastette

[Your Name]

In article <oaf05f$9ao$1...@dont-email.me>, Bastette

Fans and actual-creators of the original works that this current lazy
talentless egotistical hack generation in Hollyweird steal from and
butcher to fill their own pockets.

From Wired.com ...

Rebooting The Matrix? Yeah, That零 Not How Nostalgia Works
Can we maybe try to wait a few decades before resuscitating
a still-great movie?
https://www.wired.com/2017/03/the-matrix-reboot-nostalgia/


Whether or not the idiotic lazy reboot is any good in it's own right,
it's still a very different product and hence should have a different
name.

[Ubiquitous]

Is that the movie in which it ends up the kid is talking to Bruce Willis?

[BTR1701]

In article <oaf05f$9ao$1...@dont-email.me>,
Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote:

From the people who constantly bitch and moan about "whitewashing" in
films where a white actor is cast to play an established minority role.

Like casting Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One in DOCTOR STRANGE, a
character that was Asian in the comics.

Or Emma Stone as an Asian-American character in ALOHA.

Here we have a black guy being considered for an established white
character, but I doubt there will be similar instances of indignation in
the media and elsewhere.

[Your Name]

In article <itadndl5C_iGr1bF...@giganews.com>, Ubiquitous

<web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> In article <eivmp7...@mid.individual.net>, tednolan wrote:
> >moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>On 3/15/2017 10:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
> >>> Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be any
> >>> howls of outrage over that, though.
> >>>

> >>> In case we've yet to realize Hollywood is mining every successful
> >>> franchise for a reboot of that money it made in the past, Warner Bros.
> >>> is now planning a reboot of THE MATRIX. Great.
> >>>
> >>> It's still not clear what shape the project will take, but
> >>> sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Warner Bros. is in
> >>> the early stages of developing a relaunch of THE MATRIX, the
> >>> iconic 1999 sci-fi movie that is considered one of the most
> >>> original films in cinematic history, with Zak Penn in talks
> >>> to write a treatment. Sources say there is potential interest
> >>> in Michael B. Jordan to star, but much must be done before
> >>> the project is ready to go.
> >>>
> >>> THE MATRIX is horribly dated, and let's not talk about the two sequels.
> >>> If they wanna save money and still give it the same social message, just
> >>> make the plot about Neo staring into his phone for two hours then
> >>> learning karate by watching a YouTube tutorial.
> >>>
> >>> http://idly.craveonline.com/2017/03/the-matrix-reboot-michael-b-jordan/#/
> >>> slide/1
> >>
> >>It won't be 'blackwashing' that dooms this project, but rather the fact
> >>that the original smash hit owed to an okay story twist and a
> >>mind-blowing visual-effect -- whereas, today, the story's well known,
> >>and the effect is too tired even for TV commercials.
> >>
> >
> >Next up? -- "The Sixth Sense" remake :-)
>
> Is that the movie in which it ends up the kid is talking to Bruce Willis?

Yeah, but in the silly reboot the kid *IS* Bruce Willis. ;-)

[moviePig]

However, 'black' usually does confer major, even if unspoken, additional
aspects upon a character. Sometimes that's a serendipity (...see NIGHT
OF THE LIVING DEAD). But sometimes it's unwelcome meddling with an icon
(...see Idris Elba, a black guy who provoked substantial indignation
when considered as a new James Bond.)

[Your Name]

In article <oacsnf$4js$1...@dont-email.me>, David Johnston
<davidjo...@block.com> wrote:

> On 3/15/2017 8:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >
> > Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be any
> > howls of outrage over that, though.
> >

> > In case we've yet to realize Hollywood is mining every successful
> > franchise for a reboot of that money it made in the past, Warner Bros.
> > is now planning a reboot of THE MATRIX. Great.
> >
> > It's still not clear what shape the project will take, but
> > sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Warner Bros. is in
> > the early stages of developing a relaunch of THE MATRIX, the
> > iconic 1999 sci-fi movie that is considered one of the most
> > original films in cinematic history,
>
> Given how the sequels went off the rails I can see why. But maybe they
> can dispense with insultingly stupid idea that humans can be practical
> sources of electric power.

Reportedly / supposedly this new movie is NOT a remake nor a reboot ...

New Matrix is not a remake or reboot, says Zak Penn
---------------------------------------------------
Just a few days ago, it was reported that Warner Bros. was
working on a reboot of sci-fi franchise The Matrix, with
Zak Penn (Ready Player One, X-Men: The Last Stand) in talks
to write the script. Now Penn has taken to Twitter to hint
that the new Matrix he's working on right now is (by
process of elimination) either a direct sequel or a
prequel.

"All I can say at this point is no one could or should
REBOOT 'The Matrix,'" Penn wrote. "People who know
'Animatrix' and the comics understand. Can't comment yet
except to say that the words 'reboot' and 'remake' were
from an article. Let's stop responding to inaccurate
news. Do I want to see more stories set in the universe of
'The Matrix'? Yes. Because it's a brilliant idea that
generates great stories."

Here are some more pertinent tweets from Penn regarding
plans for the new Matrix:

Look at what people are doing with Xmen universe.
Between Logan and Legion and Deadpool, does
anyone want them to stop? Not me.
‹ Zak Penn (@zakpenn) March 17, 2017

How about just re-release the matrix? Don't reboot
it, you can't do better.
‹ Zak Penn (@zakpenn) March 17, 2017

If I were going to recast Keanu Reeves, I would
cast Keanu Reeves.
‹ Zak Penn (@zakpenn) March 17, 2017

So the big takeaway from these tweets is that the script
he's working on is A) not a reboot and B) has great
respect for the films, games, anime and comics that The
Wachowskis created. Those who are familiar with the films
know that at the end of Revolutions it indicated that the
entire story that played out over the trilogy was itself
a "reboot" of a simulation that's been playing out over
and over. At the end of that film, humans were going to
be granted a choice of either staying in The Matrix or
living in the real world, and it was hinted that Reeves'
Neo could return.

The studio is reportedly looking at Michael B. Jordan
(Creed, Fantastic Four) to star, but it's early days yet.
The original film came to us from The Wachowskis and is
considered a landmark of the sci-fi genre. It was known
for its groundbreaking effects that have been endlessly
copied over the years. At this time, the Wachowskis are
not involved with the project.

The film was released back in 1999 and gave us an effect
known as "bullet time," the slow-moving action that
showed bullets slowly moving during the heightened
perception of the main character. The term was used in
the script for the first film and is now trademarked by
Warner Bros. The Matrix is the story of Neo, played by
Keanu Reeves (John Wick, Speed), a hacker who is brought
into the "real" world, learning that what we perceive as
reality is actually a computer program. The Matrix also
starred Laurence Fishburne (Mystic River, Batman v
Superman: Dawn of Justice and Carrie-Ann Moss (Jessica
Jones, Memento).

There were two sequels for The Matrix; The Matrix Reloaded
in 2003 and The Matrix Revolutions released six months
after the first sequel. The Animatrix was an animated
anthology based on the film series and was also released
in 2003. There have been numerous video games, anime and
comics in the franchise that have continued the story.

<http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/827243-new-matrix-not-remake-or-r
eboot>

[Lewis]

Racist cunts who use words like "blackwash".

--
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

[BTR1701]

Ah, so it's okay to use "whitewash", but "blackwash" is racist. You're one
of those. Gotcha.

[moviePig]

Personally, I didn't find 'blackwash' racist so much as apposite
word-play. But pretending that "symmetry" makes it okay is silly.

[Bastette]

I know. But BTR1701 seemed to be whining that the "proggies" wouldn't be
outraged by it. Why should they be? Why does BTR1701 expect them to be?


Bastette

[Bastette]

From these comments I gather that the Matrix is being remade with a black
cast, or at least, a black actor in Keanu Reeves's role? I don't know anything
about it other than what I've read in this thread.

My question is, if that is what is happening, why do you even care? The
original still exists. So watch that again if you like it that much, and
don't watch the reboot. Chances are it will not live up to the original
no matter who is in it. If it turn out to be good, then it's your loss.

"Whitewashing" is something different - that term is usually used when a
true story is being told as having white protagonists when the real people
were not white. Or when characters from a lesser-known novel or other
medium (eg a game or comic), who aren't white, are changed to white
characters in the big-budget film based on it.

Bastette

[Bastette]

Exactly. When the day comes on which everyone, regardless of race, has
the same opportunities and privileges, then we can talk about symmetry.
"Whitewashing" and "blackwashing" might appear to be symmetrical terms,
but only to people who live on the comfortable side of a cultural barrier,
and therefore don't even notice that it's there.


Bastette

[Your Name]

In article <oapeio$u6n$2...@dont-email.me>, Bastette

<bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote:
>
> From these comments I gather that the Matrix is being remade with a black
> cast, or at least, a black actor in Keanu Reeves's role? I don't know anything
> about it other than what I've read in this thread.

It's since been reported that the new movie is not a "reboot" nor a
"remake".

Some rumours are now saying it may be a prequel based around a younger
version of Laurence Fishburne's character, so that would mean casting
an actor who is black ... err "person of colour" (or whatever the
latest ridiculously silly 'Political Correct' term is).

> My question is, if that is what is happening, why do you even care? The
> original still exists. So watch that again if you like it that much, and
> don't watch the reboot. Chances are it will not live up to the original
> no matter who is in it. If it turn out to be good, then it's your loss.

Reboots are always crap. Remakes are usually slightly less so.

Reboots or remakes only a few years after the original are moronically
stupid and simply due to the huge number of lazy talentless scum
infesting Hollyweird these days.

If they want to make a new product (which thanks to all the idiotic
changes all reboots are), then use a new name as well.

> "Whitewashing" is something different - that term is usually used when a
> true story is being told as having white protagonists when the real people
> were not white. Or when characters from a lesser-known novel or other
> medium (eg a game or comic), who aren't white, are changed to white
> characters in the big-budget film based on it.

"Whitewashing" is when you paint a fence or wall with a particular type
of white paint. :-)

[Cycle]

Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote in news:oapfh9$u6n$3@dont-
email.me:

> When the day comes on which everyone, regardless of race, has
> the same opportunities and privileges, then we can talk about symmetry.

Black actors have more opportunities and privileges than White actors do
these days.

And let's not forget which group truly has privilege in Hollyood: jews.
Most studio suits are jewboys, and that's because of discriminatory
hiring practices whereby jews are doing the hiring and promoting, and
they only hire/promote fellow jews into positions of power in Hollywood.

But even with lowly actors, jews have privilege: look at all the jew
actors playing White characters. Hell, the vast majority of so-called
"White" actors in Hollywood are actually jews pretending to be White. For
a group that doesn't even make up five percent of the American
population, they sure are overrepresented in both acting gigs and studio
exec positions. True White people, on the other hand, are vastly
*under*represented in Hollywood.

[moviePig]

Golly. Blacks... jews... it's hard to know whom to persecute first.

[Lewis]

In message <ob0o2r$u5c$1...@gioia.aioe.org> Cycle <cy...@thatis.vicious> wrote:
> Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote in news:oapfh9$u6n$3@dont-
> email.me:

>> When the day comes on which everyone, regardless of race, has
>> the same opportunities and privileges, then we can talk about symmetry.

> Black actors have more opportunities and privileges than White actors do
> these days.

Complete and utter bullshit.

Go stick your head up your ass -- oh, sorry, too late -- you racist
shitbag.

--
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those
with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

[Bastette]

Cycle wrote:

> Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote in news:oapfh9$u6n$3@dont-
> email.me:

>> When the day comes on which everyone, regardless of race, has
>> the same opportunities and privileges, then we can talk about symmetry.

> Black actors have more opportunities and privileges than White actors do
> these days.

On which planet is this?

> And let's not forget which group truly has privilege in Hollyood: jews.

Oh, right, the "International Jewish conspiracy." I can see that you're
not capable of a rational conversation about this subject, because your
head is filled with paranoid fantasies and other nonsense, based on Nazi
(either neo- or classic) propaganda.


Bastette

[Ciclo Vicioso]

Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote in
news:ob1bud$kv6$1...@dont-email.me:

> Cycle wrote:
>
> > Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote in
> > news:oapfh9$u6n$3@dont- email.me:
>
> >> When the day comes on which everyone, regardless of race, has
> >> the same opportunities and privileges, then we can talk about
> >> symmetry.
>
> > Black actors have more opportunities and privileges than White
> > actors do these days.
>
> On which planet is this?
>
> > And let's not forget which group truly has privilege in Hollyood:
> > jews.
>
> Oh, right, the "International Jewish conspiracy."

Oh, right, the "International jewish conspiracy" defense. The one where
your ilk tries to associate any cricitism of jews, no matter how well-
founded in factual reality, with Illuminati-style conspiracy theories, in
an attempt to discredit any and every kind of criticism ever leveled at
any jew whatsoever. What, Bernie Madoff stole money? No, wait, I'll bet
you believe in an international jewish conspiracy, which automatically
clears Madoff of all charges! Bernie is free to go!

I can see that
> you're not capable of a rational conversation about this subject,
> because your head is filled with paranoid fantasies and other
> nonsense, based on Nazi (either neo- or classic) propaganda.

And I can see YOU are not capable of intelligent conversation about any
subject, because you're fucking stupid.

Why does the concept of jews being privileged upset you so much? The mere
utterance of the thought that jews aren't powerless little victims being
oppressed by Evil White Males sends you into a sputtering rage whereby
you immediately shut off all discourse, and launches you into statements
about Nazi propaganda and conspiracy theories. It's almost as if my post
threatened your fragile worldview, and you panicked. It seems someone
needs to check their privilege...

...By the way, if you believe in "white privilege", which is the route
you were seemingly heading towards with your previous unintelligent
blatherings, then it's not my head that's filled with paranoid fantasies
based on propaganda (in this case, of the jewish-supremacist and
Marxist/Communist kind) here.

[BTR1701]

In article <oapeio$u6n$2...@dont-email.me>,

Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote:

> BTR1701 wrote:
>
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> >> In message <oaf05f$9ao$1...@dont-email.me> Bastette
> >> <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>> BTR1701 wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be
> >>>> any howls of outrage over that, though.
> >>>
> >>> If it totally sucks as a film - which it probably will because most
> >>> reboots do - I disagree. I'm sure there *will* be outrage.
> >>
> >>> On the miniscule chance that it turns out well, why should there be
> >>> outrage? From who?
> >>
> >> Racist cunts who use words like "blackwash".
>
> > Ah, so it's okay to use "whitewash", but "blackwash" is racist.
> > You're one of those. Gotcha.

> From these comments I gather that the Matrix is being remade with a black
> cast, or at least, a black actor in Keanu Reeves's role? I don't know
> anything about it other than what I've read in this thread.
>
> My question is, if that is what is happening, why do you even care?

Why did all the people care that the Ancient One was cast with a white
woman instead of an Asian in DOCTOR STRANGE?

> The original still exists.

As does the original DOCTOR STRANGE.

> "Whitewashing" is something different - that term is usually used when a
> true story is being told as having white protagonists when the real people
> were not white. Or when characters from a lesser-known novel or other
> medium (eg a game or comic), who aren't white, are changed to white
> characters in the big-budget film based on it.

You mean like they did when they cast Idris Elba to play the white
character Roland Deschain in the film adaptation of Stephen King's DARK
TOWER?

Or is that also "different"?

[BTR1701]

In article <oapfh9$u6n$3...@dont-email.me>,

So it's okay to use "whitewash", but "blackwash" is racist. You're also
one of those. Gotcha.

[moviePig]

Is there something about the Deschain character that's quintessentially
white -- like there is with, say, James Bond, a veteran of a dozen books
and two dozen movies over a half-century? If not, then Elba's a
defensible choice simply on the basis of marketability -- like Will
Smith was for the classic I AM LEGEND. Afaics, the character of THE
MATRIX's Neo is little more than a placeholder, defined mainly by the
entity known as Keanu. There's nothing sacrilegious about
"re-imagining" him for box-office purposes.

[Lewis]

In message <atropos-8F2BD0...@news.giganews.com> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <oapeio$u6n$2...@dont-email.me>,
> Bastette <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote:

>> BTR1701 wrote:
>>
>> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>
>> >> In message <oaf05f$9ao$1...@dont-email.me> Bastette
>> >> <bast...@nonexistent.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >>> BTR1701 wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> Looks like they're gonna blackwash an iconic film. Probably won't be
>> >>>> any howls of outrage over that, though.
>> >>>
>> >>> If it totally sucks as a film - which it probably will because most
>> >>> reboots do - I disagree. I'm sure there *will* be outrage.
>> >>
>> >>> On the miniscule chance that it turns out well, why should there be
>> >>> outrage? From who?
>> >>
>> >> Racist cunts who use words like "blackwash".
>>
>> > Ah, so it's okay to use "whitewash", but "blackwash" is racist.
>> > You're one of those. Gotcha.

>> From these comments I gather that the Matrix is being remade with a black
>> cast, or at least, a black actor in Keanu Reeves's role? I don't know
>> anything about it other than what I've read in this thread.
>>
>> My question is, if that is what is happening, why do you even care?

> Why did all the people care that the Ancient One was cast with a white
> woman instead of an Asian in DOCTOR STRANGE?

They don't.

$677 Million dollars worth of don't care.

--
'Does he have people put to death?' said Mort. SOMETIMES. THERE ARE
SOME THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO, WHEN YOU'RE A KING.

[trotsky]

Geez, Thanny, that's actually an interesting point of discussion.
Unfortunately your point of view is so lame it seems to be of the mind
that there should be white version of "Roots". However, a black version
of "The Wizard of Oz" seems rather harmless and nobody cared much one
way or the other. Fail.

[BTR1701]

In article <slrnoda8dc....@snow.local>,

So whitewashing is okey-dokey so long as the movie makes a shit-ton of
dough?

Good to know.

[BTR1701]

In article <58d51a23$0$1345$c3e8da3$1cbc...@news.astraweb.com>,

Well, Roland Deschain is a veteran of nine books over 35 years, so I'd
say he's right up there with Bond, given your criteria.

And yes, Deschain being white is a key plot element. Changing him from
white to black completely destroys a major character dynamic between
Roland and schizophrenic Odetta Holmes/Detta Walker, a black woman,
whose violent, predatory alternate personality hates Roland for the
color of his skin. But story be damned, we have an Agenda here!

And of course, casting Roland as black will also necessitate changing
the characters of his parents-- Steven & Gabrielle Deschain-- from white
to black also.

[Lewis]

You said "Why did all the people care"

All the people didn't care. Very few people cared.

--
"Hi Dad! It's 3am, do you know where I am?"

[Lewis]

In message <atropos-1CC698...@news.giganews.com> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> And of course, casting Roland as black will also necessitate changing
> the characters of his parents-- Steven & Gabrielle Deschain-- from white
> to black also.

Well that is certainly not true.


--
and I lift my glass to the Awful Truth / which you can't reveal to the
Ears of Youth / except to say it isn't worth a dime

[BTR1701]

In article <slrnoddpp2....@snow.local>,

Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <atropos-1CC698...@news.giganews.com> BTR1701
> <atr...@mac.com> wrote:

> > And of course, casting Roland as black will also necessitate changing
> > the characters of his parents-- Steven & Gabrielle Deschain-- from
> > white to black also.
>
> Well that is certainly not true.

It is unless they want to *further* fuck up the story by making Roland
adopted or some such nonsense.