Interracial romances in Hollywood films (or the lack thereof)
rick h
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Howard Brazee <jshndf...@kih.net> wrote in message news:<3B485EA3...@brazee.net>...
> Opencity wrote:
>
> > Hollywood could stand to learn:
> >
...
> > 3. Interracial romance exists (someday Denzel Washington will be able to kiss
> > his white leading lady).
>
> He found out early that black women preferred him NOT kissing his white leading
> lady - when his character walked away, they cheered.
>
>
Why are there so few interracial romances depicted in Hollywood films?
Is it because Hollywood is governed by the dollar, and middle America
just won't pay to see interracial romances on screen? Or is it just a
reflection of the attitudes of a few very rich executives? Both?
Neither? Is it possible that Hollywood does more damage with its
attitudes towards race than it helps?
Since a large fraction if not the majority of a movie's gross comes
from international audiences, then wouldn't there be an economic
incentive to increase the international gross by including interracial
relationships, at the cost perhaps of lowering the American gross?
Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
I hope the readers here can name some. I would bet that the relative
frequency was quite low. Why? The last such couple I can remember
was on Televison, not Hollywood, i.e. it was the TV neighbors of the
Jeffersons in the 1970s.
On another note, my impression is that Asian - white relationships are
heavily biased towards white male - Asian female. It seems as if in
the Hollywood universe it is simply inconceivable that there would
ever be a compelling Asian male - white/black/Latino female
relationship. Why? It was comical how close Chow Yun Fat came to
kissing Jodie Foster in "Anna and the King". You know, they're
standing close together, she's looking up into his eyes. Normally,
this would be time for the BIG-HOLLYWOOD-KISSING-SCENE. But wait,
according to the Hollywood rule book, it's taboo for an Asian guy to
kiss a white gal, and that rule supersedes the
BIG-HOLLYWOOD-KISSING-SCENE rule. Tough luck, Chow Yun Fat.
I believe English Patient had a romance between an Asian Indian and
Juliette Binoche, and another was alluded to I think in Passage to
India. Kind of a rarity if you ask me.
Well, at least we don't see Hollywood using Mickey Rooney any more to
impersonate an Asian dude (Breakfast at Tiffany's).
Why is Hollywood so backwards? Or is just that the audience is so
backwards?
Rick H
John Harkness
Just off the top of my head...
Halle Berry-John Travolta in Swordfish, Whoopi Goldberg-Ted Danson in
Made in America, Angela Bassett-Robert DeNiro in the forthcoming
Score, Jennifer Beals-Michael Nouri in Flashdance (of course, most
people don't realize that Jennifer Beals is a bi-racial person who
can "pass" to use an archaic term), Rosie Perez-Woody Harrelson in
White Men Can't Jump (though I'm not sure exactly how one would define
Perez racially, hispanic being a linguistic more than a racial
definition), Rosie Perez-Nicolas Cage in It Could Happen To You,
Vanessa Williams with Cheyenne in Dance With Me, Nia Long-Giovanni
Ribisi in Boiler Room,
Of course, there are very few black actresses with above the line
clout, and therefore fewer starring opportunities for them.
John Harkness
SDM
> relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
> e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
> can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
> shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
> I hope the readers here can name some.
Strange Days - Ralph Fiennes and Angela Bassett
The Score - Robert DeNiro and Angela Bassett
Lone Star - One of the older soldiers has a black girlfriend
Zebrahead - Michael Rappaport and N'Bushe Wright
Mystery Men - William H. Macy and Jennifer Lewis
TetsuwanATOM
relationsihps with white actors interracial, unless your talking porn,
hehehe.
Philo D
> > Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
> > relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
> > e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
> > can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
> > shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
> > I hope the readers here can name some.
The Bodyguard, Kevin Costner & Whitney Houston
Calvin Rice
-cr
John
Most people complain that the Hollywood Kikes promote interracial
relationships. An emerging phenom, is that they occur among the lower
classes. I assure the readers that among the White familes of real
movers and
shakers such relationships are quite rare. I recall hearing a very
well known
Washington personality tell his sixteen year old son, "You could
consider fucking a Black when the last sheep dies"!
JWH
Marc Fleury
>Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
>relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
>e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
>can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
>shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
Tarantino seems to do it. (Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown)
--
Marc.
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> aml...@yahoo.com (rick h) wrote:
>
> >Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
> >relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
> >e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
> >can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
> >shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
Well, jungle fever...
I always wondered why a white woman who pursues black men is called a
"mud shark", while a white man who pursues black women is merely looking for
a "chocolate fantasy". A bit of a double-standard there, eh? Mix in a bit of
AmerIndian (which is most of what I am) and I can't even tell WHAT I am
based on who I am dating.
-Mike
Bruce Johnson
Mission Impossible 2 - Tom Cruise and Thandie Newton.
dragontears
M.E.L.
> relationsihps with white actors interracial, unless your talking porn,
> hehehe.
>
as Rosie Perez, Rita Moreno, and Geraldo Rivera being in relationships with
whites is interracial.
SDM
> It's not Hollywood's job to mold society into a leftie utopia. TV does
that.
Interracial relationships are leftie? What's the "rightie" take, Aryanism?
SDM
> relationships.
Most?
People?
>An emerging phenom, is that they occur among the lower
> classes.
The people who complain about it are doing it too? Hypocrites...
>I assure the readers that among the White familes of real
> movers and
> shakers such relationships are quite rare. I recall hearing a very
> well known
> Washington personality tell his sixteen year old son, "You could
> consider fucking a Black when the last sheep dies"!
Hopefully that bloodline will stick with the farm animals and die off as
it's apparently ready to.
T Berk
Yep, it is. (You really want to say a Puerto Rican person and a 'white'
person getting together isn't Interracial?) Hmmm. And then there are
multiracial people, so I suppose we will start using fractions to
describe just how interracial the love scene was.
Part of the fuzziness comes from the movement of racial groups to join
the majority, therefore we have (for example) Irish and Italians, and
others, who were discriminated against much more back when they were
viewed as immigrants and not 'real' americans. Now they are 'white' just
like a lot of other groups. (No offense intended btw.) The biggest, most
visible, and identifiable groups currently undergoing this trend are
Asians and Hispanics. (Jet Li _almost_ kissed the girl!, oops, I meant
Chow Yun!)
Reality of the situation makes the pigment in your skin a hindrance in
this process, takes longer for your (my, our, their) group to combine
with the majority the darker you are, especially as a group. Russians,
white? (It [was] is a big place after all.) Arabs, white? Spanish
speaking South Americans of Japanese ancestry, white?
Off the top of my head I thought of Jungle Fever, a cautionary tale to
be true, but it had not only Snipes & Sciorra (sp?) but also a black
woman/white man love thing going on. Again, things that make you go; Hmmm.
Well, some of these questions about "why does Hollywood do this or that"
are rhetorical, eh?
TBerk
John Harkness
wrote:
On the subject of Wesley Snipes, there's also One Night Stand, where
both his relationships with women are interracial, with Nastassja
Kinski and Ming-Na Wen, and of course, Money Train, with him and
Jennifer Lopez, who's another whatever.
John Harkness
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don't practice it. The only minorities in the Hollywood Hills are
maids, pool cleaners and nannies.
-Rich
On 10 Jul 2001 06:33:09 -0700, os...@netscape.net (Calvin Rice) wrote:
>It's not Hollywood's job to mold society into a leftie utopia. TV does that.
>
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audience) prefers the light skinned black women with white features,
such as Halley Barry, Jennifer Beals, etc, etc.
-Rich
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"Reader" <ba...@S-P-A-M-F-I-L-T-E-Rqwest.net> wrote in message
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> I always wondered why a white woman who pursues black men is called a
> "mud shark", while a white man who pursues black women is merely looking
for
> a "chocolate fantasy". A bit of a double-standard there, eh? Mix in a bit
of
> AmerIndian (which is most of what I am) and I can't even tell WHAT I am
> based on who I am dating.
>
> -Mike
>
>
Looking for choclate fantasy is far far milder than I've heard such white
women referred to.
TetsuwanATOM
"M.E.L." <mel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yo do know Rivera is not his real last name, don't you? His father is
jewish. Yes, Puerto Ricans come in several "racial" flavors, but for
purposes of this discussion, let's just say that they are an ethnic group,
namely people of hispanic origin. But Puerto Ricans are a mix of spaniards
and African slaves, no matter how they look.
Dawn Taylor
>Well, Hollywood's wealthy leftists talk a good game, too bad they
>don't practice it. The only minorities in the Hollywood Hills are
>maids, pool cleaners and nannies.
>-Rich
Where do you live, Rich? Have you ever even *been* to the Hollywood
hills area?
"Maids, pool cleaners and nannies" aren't the only minorities who
live there.
Dawn
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> Philo D <do...@earthling.net> wrote in message
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> > > > Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
> > > > relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
> > > > e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"?
I
> > > > can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has
been
> > > > shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a
prostitute.
> > > > I hope the readers here can name some.
> >
> > The Bodyguard, Kevin Costner & Whitney Houston
>
> Most people complain that the Hollywood Kikes promote interracial
> relationships.
Hmmm, another addition to my "how do people that stupid even breathe, let
alone operate a computer?" list.
tim gueguen 101867
SWBoyett
a police officer who had a relationship with the black nurse who cared for
him after his character was shot. I don't know who the actress was that
played the nurse. IMDB lists several actresses but doesn't specify which one
played the nurse.
Judging from the release date, that film may well have been the first time
that Hollywood portrayed a white male/black female relationship that was not
based upon prostitution or slavery.
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Stan Boyett
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SDM
> Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
>
Wrong genders
SWBoyett
> > Judging from the release date, that film may well have been the first
time
> > that Hollywood portrayed a white male/black female relationship that was
> not
> > based upon prostitution or slavery.
> >
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> Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
>
Nope, we're talking about white MALE / black FEMALE relationships.
However, I can't think about "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" without thinking
of my father. He was managing a theatre in the Deep South when that film
came out. I was 12 or 13 at the time. He received so many death threats that
during the course of the films run he had to have State Trooper escorts to
and from home, and our neighborhood was practically under martial law with
the amount of police presence.
Another bit of trivia regarding police and movies in my lifetime:
A couple of years after GWCTD, when I was running projectors at one of our
theatres, my father and I were both arrested for screening the movie (and
this is the real title that was on the marquee) "Can Hieronymous Merkin Ever
Forget Mercy Hump And Find True Happiness?" It was the first movie in our
town that was rated by what we now know as the movie rating system, and it
was rated X. (At that time there were only four ratings: G (general
audiences), M (mature audiences), R (restricted, no one under 18), and X
(adult, no one under 21). What was so hilarious (though not at that time)
was that they waited to arrest us until the last night of the film's run at
our theatre. I was literally rewinding the last reel of film getting it
ready for pick-up by the distributor when police busted into the booth, guns
drawn, to confiscate the film and arrest me. We got off on a technicality,
but things were sticky for a while because I was under 21 and screening a
X-rated movie.
Okay, one more bit of theatre-life trivia:
The theatre where we screened 'Hieronymous Merkin' was a Cinerama theatre.
The very first movie that we screened there was "Grand Prix" (which I
desperately want on DVD). The second movie that screened in that theatre was
"The Taming Of The Shrew" with Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton. The
night we changed the marquee from GP to TTOTS, I was up the ladder when I
heard a horrendous crash on the street in front of the theatre. I turned to
see that a car had run off the road and hit the ditch. Fortunately no one
was hurt, but we had all run over to the car to see if help was needed. When
the driver got out of the car and we asked him what had happened, he pointed
behind us, to the theatre marquee. And there, where the marquee was in the
middle of being changed from one title to the other, it read: "The Taming Of
The PRIX"; and "PRIX" was in insanely tall 'glitter' letters. It was thirty
minutes before any of us could stop laughing and finish the marquee.
Cheers,
--
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eqtr...@020.co.uk
Because hollywood is controlled by racist middle aged white male
producers. They often cater towards the easiest stereotypes that are
most familiar to Amerikkkan audiences in order to turn the quick buck.
Social causes be damned it's all about the almighty green dollar in
this case.
'nuff said.
On 9 Jul 2001 21:12:50 -0700, aml...@yahoo.com (rick h) wrote:
>From the thread: Re: On-Topic Poll: Top 10 Things Hollywood Needs To
>Learn
>
>Howard Brazee <jshndf...@kih.net> wrote in message news:<3B485EA3...@brazee.net>...
>> Opencity wrote:
>>
>> > Hollywood could stand to learn:
>> >
>...
>> > 3. Interracial romance exists (someday Denzel Washington will be able to kiss
>> > his white leading lady).
>>
>> He found out early that black women preferred him NOT kissing his white leading
>> lady - when his character walked away, they cheered.
>>
>>
>
>Why are there so few interracial romances depicted in Hollywood films?
> Is it because Hollywood is governed by the dollar, and middle America
>just won't pay to see interracial romances on screen? Or is it just a
>reflection of the attitudes of a few very rich executives? Both?
>Neither? Is it possible that Hollywood does more damage with its
>attitudes towards race than it helps?
>
>Since a large fraction if not the majority of a movie's gross comes
>from international audiences, then wouldn't there be an economic
>incentive to increase the international gross by including interracial
>relationships, at the cost perhaps of lowering the American gross?
>
>Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
>relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
>e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
>can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
>shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
>I hope the readers here can name some. I would bet that the relative
>frequency was quite low. Why? The last such couple I can remember
>was on Televison, not Hollywood, i.e. it was the TV neighbors of the
>Jeffersons in the 1970s.
>
>On another note, my impression is that Asian - white relationships are
>heavily biased towards white male - Asian female. It seems as if in
>the Hollywood universe it is simply inconceivable that there would
>ever be a compelling Asian male - white/black/Latino female
>relationship. Why? It was comical how close Chow Yun Fat came to
>kissing Jodie Foster in "Anna and the King". You know, they're
>standing close together, she's looking up into his eyes. Normally,
>this would be time for the BIG-HOLLYWOOD-KISSING-SCENE. But wait,
>according to the Hollywood rule book, it's taboo for an Asian guy to
>kiss a white gal, and that rule supersedes the
>BIG-HOLLYWOOD-KISSING-SCENE rule. Tough luck, Chow Yun Fat.
>
>I believe English Patient had a romance between an Asian Indian and
>Juliette Binoche, and another was alluded to I think in Passage to
>India. Kind of a rarity if you ask me.
>
>Well, at least we don't see Hollywood using Mickey Rooney any more to
>impersonate an Asian dude (Breakfast at Tiffany's).
>
>Why is Hollywood so backwards? Or is just that the audience is so
>backwards?
>
>Rick H
Jckehunt
>
>Halle Berry-John Travolta in Swordfish, Whoopi Goldberg-Ted Danson in
>Made in America, Angela Bassett-Robert DeNiro in the forthcoming
>Score, Jennifer Beals-Michael Nouri in Flashdance (of course, most
>people don't realize that Jennifer Beals is a bi-racial person who
>can "pass" to use an archaic term), Rosie Perez-Woody Harrelson in
>White Men Can't Jump (though I'm not sure exactly how one would define
>Perez racially, hispanic being a linguistic more than a racial
>definition), Rosie Perez-Nicolas Cage in It Could Happen To You,
>Vanessa Williams with Cheyenne in Dance With Me, Nia Long-Giovanni
>Ribisi in Boiler Room,
>
>Of course, there are very few black actresses with above the line
>clout, and therefore fewer starring opportunities for them.
>
>John Harkness
Didn't Clint Eastwood and Vonetta McGee have a love scene in The Eiger
Sanction?
M.E.L.
> > > relationsihps with white actors interracial, unless your talking porn,
> > > hehehe.
> > >
> > Puerto Ricans come in several racial flavors. IMO, I don't think those
> such as Rosie Perez, Rita Moreno, and Geraldo Rivera being in
relationships
> with whites is interracial.
> >
> Yo do know Rivera is not his real last name, don't you? His father is
> jewish. Yes, Puerto Ricans come in several "racial" flavors, but for
> purposes of this discussion, let's just say that they are an ethnic group,
> namely people of hispanic origin. But Puerto Ricans are a mix of
spaniards
> and African slaves, no matter how they look.
>
on this at all, and none of this racial classification stuff is important
anyway. Puerto Ricans don't dwell on race.
M.E.L.
films mostly.
Melquiades
Forrster were paired up in Jackie Brown.
Also, Jimmy in Pulp Fiction had a black wife.
John Harkness
(Melquiades) wrote:
>I don't remember how far the relationship went, but Pam Grier and Robert
>Forrster were paired up in Jackie Brown.
>
But it never progressed to an actual romantic/sexual relationship.
John Harkness
TetsuwanATOM
> > > > Rosie is Puerto Rican, and most people would consider her on scren
> > > > relationsihps with white actors interracial, unless your talking
porn,
> > > > hehehe.
> > jewish. Yes, Puerto Ricans come in several "racial" flavors, but for
> > purposes of this discussion, let's just say that they are an ethnic
group,
> > namely people of hispanic origin. But Puerto Ricans are a mix of
> spaniards
> > and African slaves, no matter how they look.
> >
> Puerto Ricans range from jet black to blue-eyed blond. I don't buy your
view
> on this at all, and none of this racial classification stuff is important
> anyway. Puerto Ricans don't dwell on race.
>
know some Puerto Ricans? Then you'd know that there is indeed some
stratification within the island based on skin color. I don't know what you
mean by "dwell on race.," but if you are implying that skin color isn't a
consideration there, well . . . Anyway, it is the same on Cuba and the
Dominican Republic as well.
This has gone a bit OT, sorry peeps . . . .
TetsuwanATOM
interesting tidbit
TetsuwanATOM
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> >Just off the top of my head...
>
> Sanction?
You are correct, sir.
artyw
> > Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
> > relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
> > e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
> > can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
> > shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
> > I hope the readers here can name some.
>
> The Score - Robert DeNiro and Angela Bassett
> Lone Star - One of the older soldiers has a black girlfriend
> Zebrahead - Michael Rappaport and N'Bushe Wright
> Mystery Men - William H. Macy and Jennifer Lewis
Billy Bob Thorton and Cynda Williams in One False Move
Milo D. Cooper
> artyw wrote:
>> SDM wrote:
>>> Some dude wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding the above thread, doesn't it seem that black-white
>>> relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female,
>>> e.g. Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I
>>> can't recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been
>>> shown in a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute.
>>> I hope the readers here can name some.
>>
>> Strange Days - Ralph Fiennes and Angela Bassett
>> The Score - Robert DeNiro and Angela Bassett
>> Lone Star - One of the older soldiers has a black girlfriend
>> Zebrahead - Michael Rappaport and N'Bushe Wright
>> Mystery Men - William H. Macy and Jennifer Lewis
>
> Billy Bob Thorton and Cynda Williams in One False Move
Tom Cruise and Thandie Newton in that _Mission: Impossible_
garbage.
John Travolta and Halle Berry in _Halle Berry's Tits_. I
mean, _Swordfish_. Or _Operation: Swordfish_, or whatever it's
called.
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Calvin Rice
> > It's not Hollywood's job to mold society into a leftie utopia. TV does
> >that.
> Interracial relationships are leftie? What's the "rightie" take, Aryanism?
It's not the interracial relationships that are 'leftie'. It is the
promotion of them by efforts to make sure all combinations are exhibited
in their 'proper' proportions. People should be free to racially mix or
not mix sexually as they see fit. Movie makers should be free to show
races mixed or not mixed sexually as they see fit. A free country will
neither keep the races sexually separate nor make them sexually mixed.
The same goes for free cinematic expression.
It certainly isn't the job of an artist to brainwash the public toward
either the left or the right point of view unless he or she wants to.
-cr
Jack Tilt
Actually the posts below lead me to another question. In most of the movies I
have seen that had a WM / BF relationship, it was "usually" handled as just a
relationship between two people. Yeah the race difference was there but it
wouldn't be a major factor. I can't recall a movie that had a BM / WF
relationship where the race difference was not one of the major themes in the
film. Even in "Save the Last Dance" it was touched on. I am not saying that's
the case in all but rarely do you see a BM / WF relationship portrayed as being
as "normal" as a WM / BF relationship when in reality the former is much common.
A side note. I don't know if this is true, from my own personal experiences it
seems to be true, but with all the attention paid to interracial BM / WF
relationships I read that by far the greatest number of interracial
relationships are WM / asian F.
In article <3B4F0947...@milospace.net>, Milo D. Cooper says...
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Re: Interracial romances in Hollywood films (or the lack thereof)
Group: rec.arts.movies.current-films Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2001, 10:48am
(EDT+4) From: do...@earthling.net (Philo D)
relationships are heavily biased towards black male - white female, e.g.
Julia Stiles and Sean Patrick Thomas in "Save the Last Dance"? I can't
recall instances in Hollywood films where a white male has been shown in
a relationship with a black female who was not a prostitute. I hope the
readers here can name some.
The Bodyguard, Kevin Costner & Whitney Houston
[[ But in the Bodyguard ( and in most of the movies named above if
memory serves correct) we never saw the black female kissing the white
male. At the end of Bodyguard Whitney and Costner had the big hug, just
like Denzel and Julia in The Pelican Brief...copouts both of them.]]]
Ed-D
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female leads in the book have a sexual relationship (note: the reporter in
the novel is white).
Flash forward to the 1993 big screen version and there is nothing of the
sort between Washington and Roberts.
Roger Ebert addressed this by suggesting that Roberts' character wouldn't
leap in to the bed of another man so soon after the death of her boyfriend.
Does this hold up? I haven't read the book (the movie BTW, was boring).
Chris P.
John Harkness
Ebert got this from Roberts -- who, in interviews at the time, said
that this was Washington's argument against a romantic relationship
between the leads. Washington is famously uncomfortable with love
scenes in general -- he was also resistant to a relationship between
Easy Rawlins and the Jennifer Beals character in Devil In A Blue Dress
-- and with white actresses in particular.
John Harkness
Chris Paul
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Washington is famously uncomfortable with love
> scenes in general -- he was also resistant to a relationship between
> Easy Rawlins and the Jennifer Beals character in Devil In A Blue Dress
> -- and with white actresses in particular.
Thanks for the info.
It does help to explain the lack of tacked on romantic subplots in his other
movies. eg. Fallen and The Bone Collector.
I had always chalked it up to cowardly Hollywood not wanting to "complicate
matters."
Chris P.
John Harkness
Of course, the lack of a tacked on romantic subplot in The Bone
Collector could be explained by the fact that his character is
paralyzed from the neck down -- and he get the girl anyway!
John Harkness
Avoid normal situations.
> It's not Hollywood's job to mold society into a leftie utopia. TV does that.
Leftists influence TV? How did that happen?
ObCurrentFilm: _The Princess and the Warrior_ is making the rounds here in
the US. How ever could I count all the questionable artistic choices...
--
alt.flame Special Forces
"We should keep the Panama Canal. After all, we stole it fair and square."
-- S. I. Hayakawa
Avoid normal situations.
> "John Harkness" <j...@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
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> Washington is famously uncomfortable with love
>> scenes in general -- he was also resistant to a relationship between
>> Easy Rawlins and the Jennifer Beals character in Devil In A Blue Dress
>> -- and with white actresses in particular.
> Thanks for the info.
> It does help to explain the lack of tacked on romantic subplots in his other
> movies. eg. Fallen and The Bone Collector.
At least there was one less cliche in _Remember the Titans_.