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ungvi...@thaimail.com

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what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth sense's
twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.


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HungrySoul

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the camera-panning down scene in "the Crying Game" is probably one of
the most talked about.

in "Deathtrap", in the first act, when 2 character's did "something"
.... oh man, I am still tramatized by the scene. That was the best
sucker punch I ever felt.

the opening a house's door scene in 'Silence of the Lambs' towards the
end.

the punchline in "Angels and Insects". (Jeffery, if you are listening,
this is why we are no longer friends ) That's right, boys and girls,
even one word about a movie can spoil the whole experience for a
friend. DIE JEFFERY DIE, YOU COCKSUCKER!

I also like unannounced actor'S cameos like the vilian in "Seven", and
the King in "Robin Hood".

KatieVer1

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Rosebud..nuff said

KatieVer1

CleV

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On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:41:50 GMT, HungrySoul
<hungr...@homeXspam.com> wrote:

>the camera-panning down scene in "the Crying Game" is probably one of
>the most talked about.
>
>in "Deathtrap", in the first act, when 2 character's did "something"
>.... oh man, I am still tramatized by the scene. That was the best
>sucker punch I ever felt.
>
>the opening a house's door scene in 'Silence of the Lambs' towards the
>end.
>
>the punchline in "Angels and Insects". (Jeffery, if you are listening,
>this is why we are no longer friends ) That's right, boys and girls,
>even one word about a movie can spoil the whole experience for a
>friend. DIE JEFFERY DIE, YOU COCKSUCKER!
>
>I also like unannounced actor'S cameos like the vilian in "Seven", and
>the King in "Robin Hood".

You'd call them cheats rather than twists, but Basic Instinct had a
triple-trick-ending - one where you think she'd going to kill him and
doesn't, two, when the screen fades to black, and three when we see
the ice-pick.

WarKrieg

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> what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth sense's
> twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
> what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.

"Luke, I am your father."

--
Warkrieg

Arrakis

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The revealing scene in The Crying Game has to be one of the biggest if
not most disgusting twists ever.Stephen Rea's reaction was too
understandable,but am sure most guys would have thrown him/her out the
window first before puking their guts out,and sure wouldn't continue
seeing him/her after,even if only platonically.


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Fawlty

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Arrakis <dragon35...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> The revealing scene in The Crying Game has to be one of the biggest if
> not most disgusting twists ever.Stephen Rea's reaction was too
> understandable,but am sure most guys would have thrown him/her out the
> window first before puking their guts out,and sure wouldn't continue
> seeing him/her after,even if only platonically.

I don't know, are most guys really that homophobic? She/he/whatever thought
that Rea's character knew about the "secret", so there was no intentional
deception.

/Mike

lbo...@worldnet.att.net

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> I also like unannounced actor'S cameos like the vilian in "Seven", and
> the King in "Robin Hood".

Don't know about anyone else, but I heard about the ending of Robin Hood
ages before it came out. One of the least-kept secrets in Hollywood.

Les

Cadillac Jones

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On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 12:49:39 GMT, ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:

>what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth sense's
>twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
>what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
>
>


the twist of all twists....Psycho

Cadillac Jones

"The Original PlayaHater"

Stephanie Schulte

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Fight Club
Arlington Road
Planet of the Apes
Soylent Green
Wild Things

ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:

> what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth sense's
> twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
> what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
>

ungvi...@thaimail.com

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In article <3871B6F0...@okapi.com>,
Stephanie Schulte <step...@okapi.com> wrote:
> Fight Club
really? i've heard other people say it was pointless.
> Arlington Road
some reviewer (bangkok post) said it was a joke!
> Planet of the Apes
.
.
.

the one where they find out that the planet is indeed earth? (told ya
spoilers were inevitable)

> Soylent Green


oh please! the fact that the foodstuff of the title is made from humans is
well known!

ungvi...@thaimail.com

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In article <3870C220...@homeXspam.com>,

HungrySoul <hungr...@homeXspam.com> wrote:
> the camera-panning down scene in "the Crying Game" is probably one of
> the most talked about.


oh, the one with the woman with a penis? (as i said, spoilers were
inevitable!)

Ken James Burke

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Sadly, Arrakis is likely in the majority in his homophobia. I don't count
myself in that list, though.

My list of twists would include:

SLEUTH
DON'T LOOK NOW
THE CONVERSATION
12 MONKEYS
BLOWUP
THE CRYING GAME
THE STING
BRAZIL
FIGHT CLUB
SIXTH SENSE

and the best for last...

VERTIGO


Ken Burke <aa...@chebucto.ns.ca> Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada


Jeffrey Davis

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Ken James Burke wrote:
>
> My list of twists would include:
>
> SLEUTH
> DON'T LOOK NOW
> THE CONVERSATION
> 12 MONKEYS
> BLOWUP
> THE CRYING GAME
> THE STING
> BRAZIL
> FIGHT CLUB
> SIXTH SENSE
>
> and the best for last...
>
> VERTIGO

Hitchcock went out of his way to insure that there wasn't a "twist" in
Vertigo. He explained everything to the audience fairly early in the
movie, so I don't understand what you mean by "twist".

To my way of thinking, Don't Look Now is a good choice for the
unexpected twist. And I don't mean the little killer. I mean the look on
Julie Christie's face on the funeral boat. She looks triumphant.

--
Jeffrey Davis <da...@ca.uky.edu>
Thank you, Madam, the agony is somewhat abated.

Ken Rudolph

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ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:
>
> what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth sense's
> twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
> what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
>
How about the worst twists of the century. Let's start with THE
SPANISH PRISONER. What a cheat.

--Ken Rudolph

ultra...@my-deja.com

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In article <84q5t1$48t$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:
> what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth
sense's
> twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
> what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>


The Usual Suspects
La Jetee, the French sci-fi short which 12 Monkeys stole its twist from

charles nims

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One of the most effective for me was the Shawshank Redemption. You were
persuaded to ignore the use of the rock axe for tunneling early on, and you
were encouraged to assume that Andy had used the rope to hang himself. The
discovery of his escape caught me totally by surprise.

Charles

Arrakis

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In article
<Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.100...@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>,

Ken James Burke <aa...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Fawlty wrote:
> > Arrakis <dragon35...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:01906254...@usw-ex0107-041.remarq.com...
> > > The revealing scene in The Crying Game has to be one of the
> biggest if
> > > not most disgusting twists ever.Stephen Rea's reaction was too
> > > understandable,but am sure most guys would have thrown him/her
> out the
> > > window first before puking their guts out,and sure wouldn't
> continue
> > > seeing him/her after,even if only platonically.
> >
> > I don't know, are most guys really that homophobic?
> She/he/whatever thought
> > that Rea's character knew about the "secret", so there was no
> intentional
> > deception.
> Sadly, Arrakis is likely in the majority in his homophobia. I
> don't count
> myself in that list, though.

Think homophobia implies fear of homosexuals,transvestites,transexuals,
etc.,which I think would be the last "males" to be afraid of.Amused and
maybe disgusted by them sure,and probably never knowingly met one,but I
have nothing against them.Live and let live as long as they bother no
one.And Stephen Rea being totally clueless and Jaye Davidson being as
clueless is preposterous.

> My list of twists would include:
> SLEUTH
> DON'T LOOK NOW
> THE CONVERSATION
> 12 MONKEYS
> BLOWUP
> THE CRYING GAME
> THE STING
> BRAZIL
> FIGHT CLUB
> SIXTH SENSE
> and the best for last...
> VERTIGO

> Ken Burke <aa...@chebucto.ns.ca> Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Fawlty

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And yet you would have thrown someone out the window, just because the
person was a transsexual. Say, if you don't do it out of fear, is it out
of hatred, anger, or plain stupidity?

>maybe disgusted by them sure,and probably never knowingly met one

You've never met any homosexuals? That's really amazing, I must say. And
yet you think you would be disgusted if you ever met one. I'm glad you
haven't had to go through that then.

>And Stephen Rea being totally clueless and Jaye Davidson being as
>clueless is preposterous.

Well, that's how it was, and it made perfect sense in the movie. You
even said it was a "twist" above, thereby implying you didn't know that
Jaye Davidson's character was in fact a man. Funny.

//Mike


Arrakis

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I was wrong,you're the first I've ever met-just thank god not in person
or I'd wring your pencilneck.

Arrakis

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i'm bigoted against pussies wimp.wish you did so i could stick a pistol
in your little dweeby mouth geek.

ungvi...@thaimail.com

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In article <850kg0$n4t$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

ultra...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <84q5t1$48t$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:
> > what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth
> sense's
> > twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
> > what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> >
>
> The Usual Suspects

pretty clever, one piece of trivia though: soze (as in keyser soze)
means "verbal" (as in verbal kint) in hungarian.

ungvi...@thaimail.com

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In article <38738538...@mediaone.net>,

Ken Rudolph <ke...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:
> >
> > what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth
sense's
> > twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
> > what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
> >
> How about the worst twists of the century. Let's start with THE
> SPANISH PRISONER. What a cheat.
waht about it? as i said, you're free to put spoilers on the post as
long as you provide spoiler space. speaking of which, how about doing a
list of the worst twists of the century. spoilers are inevitable, so if
you put any, be sure to add spoiler space.

Hot4Hose

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>From: Ken Rudolph ke...@mediaone.net

>
>ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:
>>
>> what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth sense's
>> twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet frequenters
>> what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
>>
>How about the worst twists of the century. Let's start with THE
>SPANISH PRISONER. What a cheat.

I would vote for The Conversation. There's no way Hackman's character could
have mistaken Key Sentence version B for Key Sentence version A.


Thomas Andrews

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In article <20000105214237...@ng-bj1.aol.com>,

First, they are the same "sentence," just different readings. We'll, for
the sake of argument, call the reading he first interpreted from the tapes
Reading A, and the second, which he only imagines later as an alternative,
Reading B.

it was a matter of emphasis, but Caul was creating the emphasis.
Reading A came about in part because that was the reading of the
line he *imagined* when he heard the words.

Reading B is never played off the tapes - instead, after the truth
is revealed, Caul imagines Reading B. Had he imagined it before,
he might have been able to get it off the tape. But he doesn't
imagine it before, because, despite his veneer of science, he's
still a man guided by expectations and prejudices. And he got the line
reading he expected off the tapes.

The entire point of this movie is that Hackman's character is arrogant
enough to think that all of his technology can get "the whole truth," but that
even with all that technology, he is still just a man trying to interpret
the truth.

One of my favorite movies of all time. More philisophical than most movies,
more intellectual than most movies, and excellent as a story as well. Plus
a great central character (Hackman's best performance,) and a great cast
all around.
--
Thomas Andrews tho...@best.com http://www.best.com/~thomaso/

rpg

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well faulty mikey you are a fag or fag lover and there's no difference
between the two,and i'm sure you know plenty beside yourself and your
"lover".thank jesus for aids and may you croak slowly you fudgepacker.
--
Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums
Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)


sultrysiren

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ANOTHER FAG!I WAS SO RIGHT!THIS NG IS FOR QUEERS AND PANSIES WHO LOVE
STREISAND AND JULIE ANDREWS.REX REED WANNABES.SO SAD....

this damon life

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ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:
>
> In article <3871B6F0...@okapi.com>,
> Stephanie Schulte <step...@okapi.com> wrote:
> > Fight Club
> really? i've heard other people say it was pointless.


that's because they don't want to recognize some of the movie's themes.


--
"Of all my imaginary friends, I don't think there was one
that I didn't end up having to kill." Jack Handey

this damon life

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"Mc.PCB Sandwich" wrote:
>
> Wait untill the end of the century to ask this question. Something might
> come out between now and Dec. 31 2000 that's better than any other movie.
>


this is the end of 'the' century.

next year will be the end of an entirely different century.

this damon life

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Arrakis wrote:
>
> I was wrong,you're the first I've ever met-just thank god not in person
> or I'd wring your pencilneck.
>


you're just so lovely.

me, i'm bigoted against bigots.

good thing i don't know where you live.

LeomaLee

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>"sultrysiren" l...@you.com shrieked:

>ANOTHER FAG!I WAS SO RIGHT!THIS NG IS FOR
>QUEERS AND PANSIES WHO LOVE STREISAND AND
>JULIE ANDREWS.REX REED WANNABES.SO SAD....


Glad you've found a NG where you feel so much at home.

Lee


bryantti...@my-deja.com

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In article <070dbf92...@usw-ex0101-002.remarq.com>,

Arrakis <dragon35...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> i'm bigoted against pussies wimp.wish you did so i could stick a pistol
> in your little dweeby mouth geek.
>

Arrakis, I've been reading some of your words concerning gays. Safe
to say, you have a problem. And no, people such as you are not in the
majority.
Take myself, as example. I consider myself bi-sexual, which means I
would just as soon bone your father as well as your overweight mama,
provided of course, they would take my money and hold still long enough.
I loved women, and fancied that one day I would settle down with someone
and do the family thing...I didn't know what would become of my homo
half of myself, I guess it was just one of those things that I would
have to be grateful for having experienced.
Then suddenly, a couple of years ago something incredible happened
that changed me down to my socks....I finally fell in love....yeah, with
a man....
I didn't get sick and threw up. I didn't get scared or angry. I didn't
get hateful and threaten to harm anyone. I had to sit down like an adult
and come to the realization that this thing was *the* thing, and that
*THAT* thang would one day be *MY* thang.
The only problem is that he lives a long way from me. I think he cares
about me as well, but I am unsure. I wish that he would...

I have this....flower. It's tiny shoots just sprouted out of the
ground of my yard. A little delicate blade of green with a tiny bulb on
top, with its shaft covered with baby peachfuzz. The flower came rather
unexpectedly, suudenly as a visiting child.....or, as Arrakis, would
have it, as an unwanted weed.
But I have so few flowers in my home. It's lonely there and I would be
grateful for ANY kind of companionship...I'd do anything to keep that
flower in my home...healthy and happy....
Did you know that when I was an impressionist painter (of course you
do, I sent you the photos) I would talk to the plants I was painting,
like they were clients, sitters for portraitures. Not that I was all
THAT lonely or anything, but I heard that it was good for the plants.
Sure enough, the ferns I was painting flourished as I was painting them.
It gotten to the point that I had to change the painting a little just
to accommodate the growing plants. I realised then that flowers are like
love themselves. They actually thrive on attention that are given by
people who care about them...
That is why I'm watching this flower (go away, Arrakis, I think it's
obvious I'm not addressing you) This flower means more to me than
anything that has happened to me and I want to see it grow. And trust me
I won't let anything like Arrakis near you. That's a given.
Ask a question. Water my flower with a question. Then I will answer it
and we will both be astonished and amazed. This happens every time I get
into a conversation. Ask again, and I will answer, and we will be
stunned silly by a revelation. try it. please.

Bryant

Fawlty

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Arrakis <dragon35...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> I was wrong,you're the first I've ever met-just thank god not in person
> or I'd wring your pencilneck.

All this hatred just because you got turned on by Jaye Davidson in "The
Crying Game"?

/Mike

PS. I'm not gay.

Arrakis

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In article <852dfq$j7q$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>, "Fawlty"

Nah,just disgusted like most men.Sure you would have been his buddy even
after it revealed itself like Rea did.

> /Mike
> PS. I'm not gay.

Never implied you were,bi maybe,little wimpy geek definitely,but not
gay.

Arrakis

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Interesting and thanks for taking the time.Have fun with your flower.

Fawlty

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Arrakis <dragon35...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <852dfq$j7q$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>, "Fawlty"
> <faw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Arrakis <dragon35...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:0a0bc822...@usw-ex0101-002.remarq.com...
> > > I was wrong,you're the first I've ever met-just thank god not in
> > person
> > > or I'd wring your pencilneck.
> > All this hatred just because you got turned on by Jaye Davidson in
> > "The
> > Crying Game"?
>
> Nah,just disgusted like most men.Sure you would have been his buddy even
> after it revealed itself like Rea did.

You just don't get it, do you? *In the context of the movie*, Rea's
behaviour made sense. Do you even remember the movie?

>
> > /Mike
> > PS. I'm not gay.
>
> Never implied you were,bi maybe,little wimpy geek definitely,but not
> gay.

PS. I'm not bi. Or a little wimpy geek.

/Mike


this damon life

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Arrakis wrote:
>
> i'm bigoted against pussies wimp.

youhate women?

that explains a lot.

wish you did so i could stick a pistol
> in your little dweeby mouth geek.


i wish i did so you could try.


there's still space in my freezer.

bryantti...@my-deja.com

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In article <004aa0e3...@usw-ex0102-013.remarq.com>,

Arrakis <dragon35...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Interesting and thanks for taking the time.Have fun with your flower.

Thanks, buddy, I will. He's Jaye Davidson.

ungvi...@thaimail.com

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In article <20000105214237...@ng-bj1.aol.com>,

hot4...@aol.com (Hot4Hose) wrote:
> >From: Ken Rudolph ke...@mediaone.net
>
> >
> >ungvi...@thaimail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> what are the best movie twists of the century? i know that sixth
sense's
> >> twist should rank high... feel free to tell other usenet
frequenters
> >> what the twist is, but please put spoiler space.
> >>
> >How about the worst twists of the century. Let's start with THE
> >SPANISH PRISONER. What a cheat.
>
> I would vote for The Conversation. There's no way Hackman's character
could
> have mistaken Key Sentence version B for Key Sentence version A.
well my personal list of worst twists would have to have these 2:
1. no way out (costner is a soviet spy)
2. night of the following day (whole plot is just brando's dream)
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