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Alan Graham

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In no particular order...

1) Austin Powers 2 - just what I needed, a poor remake of "Spy Hard"

2) The Generals Daughter - Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull. Can we all go back
to not liking Travolta now please?

3) Jakob The Liar - Robin Williams The Crap

4) Virtual Sexuality - US cinema goers were probably spared this film
written by a UK agony uncle about a teenage girl who changes in to a teenage
boy . It also managed the impossible - to make buxom twenty-something women
dressing as schoolgirls dull. Now that takes talent.

5) Taxi. The French try to resuscitate their film industry, by making a crap
action flik that even Steven Seagal would have considered beneath him.

Al


ELurio

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Okay, I didn't see virtual sexuality, but how can you not include:

Julian Donkey-Boy
Species 2
Wing Commander
Molly
The Loss of Sexual Innocence
Drop Dead Georgious

eric l.

John H

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Eric -- On what flight did you see Molly?

John Harkness

Alan Graham

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ELurio wrote in message <19991230162209...@ng-fd1.aol.com>...

>Okay, I didn't see virtual sexuality, but how can you not include:
>
>Julian Donkey-Boy

Never seen it

>Species 2

That was Baaaad, but wasn't it a 1998 film?

>Wing Commander

That was bad. But I found it funny in a bad sort of way. Especially the way
that, with Jurgen Prochnow (sp?) in it , they felt the necessity to go thru
loads of submarine cliches ... in space.

>Molly

Never heard of it

>The Loss of Sexual Innocence

Oh god - saw the poster, read the plot, avoided like the plague.

>Drop Dead Georgious


Worth it for the one scene of dancing with a crucifix. The rest was dull.
However not as dull as the General's Daughter.

Al


DarthPuck99

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1) eXistenZ- the worst ever in my opinion
2) Wing Commander
3) Ravenous
4) The Talented Mr. Ripley- no joke, it sucked!
5) Austin Powers 2

Fawlty

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Alan Graham <a...@kuhl-graham.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> DarthPuck99 wrote in message
> <19991230165137...@ng-cb1.aol.com>...

> >1) eXistenZ- the worst ever in my opinion
>
> existenZ was terrible. While I liked the "dream" quality of some of the
> scene, it really went nowhere fast, and the ending was so predictable.

I agree. When that guy said "We're still in the game, right", that was the
last nail in the coffin for this movie. Couldn't Cronenberg at least have
thought of something for the players of the game to DO? They were just
wandering around aimlessly. Never seen a worse computer game I think!

/Mike

Mr. Wag The Frog

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1) Wing Commander
2) The Blair Bitch Project
3) Austin Powers 2: That Big-Eyed Girl Has Even Bigger Boobies
4) Star Wars: Episode 1 - Even The Title is Stooopid and Overstuffed
5) The Mod Squad

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Alan Graham

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Fawlty wrote in message <84glqn$56g$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...


The movie wasn't enough of anything. The characters were motiveless (and
poorly acted), the game was not credible (either as a study of virtual
reality or as a *tool* for Cronenberg to study the nature of reality) and
the endings on endings at the end was just dull.

Al


Alan Graham

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Mr. Wag The Frog wrote in message
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>2) The Blair Bitch Project


The BWP and The Matrix deserve some mention IMO opinion for the way an
unending volume of hype about groundbreaking, brilliant movies was undone
when the two decidedly average films were watched.

Al


Alan Graham

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DarthPuck99 wrote in message
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>1) eXistenZ- the worst ever in my opinion

existenZ was terrible. While I liked the "dream" quality of some of the
scene, it really went nowhere fast, and the ending was so predictable.

Al


KBusby2256

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worst of 99:

Wild Wild West
Bicentennial Man
Jakob The Liar
South Park
Deuce Bigelow

"Hope is a good thing. Probably the best of things. And no good thing ever
dies"
-- Andy (The Shawshank Redemption)

Cathryn Mataga

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Kiki wrote in message <84h9nb$ik5$3...@news-int.gatech.edu>...
>TomRipley <prisone...@usa.net> elaborated:
>: Being John Malkovich (pre-empting some griping, yes I'm serious with
>: this one. I have NEVER fallen asleep at a movie before, but BJM put
>: me out cold. Dull, dull, dull.)
>
>Yeah, I was pretty disappointed with this one myself. Don't know if I
>would call it hte worst of this year, but highly disappointing after
>hearing all the praise of it.


I got an idea for the sequel though. "Being Keanu Reeves" I envision
it sort of like that 'movie within a movie' in Boogie Nights --
with Keanu doing is lame-o Karate moves in LA storm drains.

Steve Erickson

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> On 30 Dec 1999 21:22:09 GMT, elu...@aol.com (ELurio) wrote:
>
> >Okay, I didn't see virtual sexuality, but how can you not include:
> >
> >Julian Donkey-Boy
> >Species 2
> >Wing Commander
> >Molly
> >The Loss of Sexual Innocence
> >Drop Dead Georgious
> >
> >eric l.

I'm shocked to find myself actually agreeing with Eric, at least about
JULIEN DONKEY-BOY & DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, the only 2 films on this list I've
seen.

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Norman Wilner

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Steve Erickson <ste...@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> On 30 Dec 1999 21:22:09 GMT, elu...@aol.com (ELurio) wrote:
>>
>>>Okay, I didn't see virtual sexuality, but how can you not include:
>>>
>>> Julian Donkey-Boy
>>> Species 2
>>> Wing Commander
>>> Molly
>>> The Loss of Sexual Innocence
>>> Drop Dead Georgious
>
> I'm shocked to find myself actually agreeing with Eric, at least
> about JULIEN DONKEY-BOY & DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, the
> only 2 films on this list I've seen.

I'd throw in with him on "The Loss of Sexual Innocence", a film of
phenomenal, ass-sucking badness if ever there was one. About an hour into
the screening, I realized I had friends who were painting their apartment
right at that moment -- literally, watching paint dry -- and knew they had
to be having a better time than I was.

Norm Wilner
Starweek Magazine

ELurio

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<<Eric -- On what flight did you see Molly?

John Harkness>>


I was shocked to discover that there was a press screening. I also just
discovered that there isn't going to be one for "Supernova."

eric l.

John H

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I didn't realize it had ever opened theatrically -- I thought it had
its premiere on American Airlines. I remember seeing the trailer --
oh, great, the OTHER Other Sister -- and then seeing it on a flight to
Paris.


John Harkness

Ken Rudolph

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Norman Wilner wrote:
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> Steve Erickson <ste...@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message

> > I'm shocked to find myself actually agreeing with Eric, at least


> > about JULIEN DONKEY-BOY & DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, the
> > only 2 films on this list I've seen.
>
> I'd throw in with him on "The Loss of Sexual Innocence", a film of
> phenomenal, ass-sucking badness if ever there was one. About an hour into
> the screening, I realized I had friends who were painting their apartment
> right at that moment -- literally, watching paint dry -- and knew they had
> to be having a better time than I was.

Just goes to show that taste in movies is one of those things it's
hard to generalize about. I'd put LOSS in my top 25. Sure it's one
of the artsiest-fartsiest movies ever made. But it mostly worked
for me; and the scene at the airport was heartbreakingly poignant.
Take away the overly pretentious Adam & Eve stuff, and it might have
made my top 10.

The other movie that wouldn't come close to making my bottom list is
DROP DEAD GORGEOUS...a mockumentary too sidesplittingly funny (in a
year short on comedies which actually made me laugh) to downgrade.
A very midrange sort of movie.

--Ken Rudolph

TomRipley

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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:17:46 -0000, "Alan Graham"
<a...@kuhl-graham.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>In no particular order...

The Mod Squad
True Crime
Wing Commander


Being John Malkovich (pre-empting some griping, yes I'm serious with
this one. I have NEVER fallen asleep at a movie before, but BJM put
me out cold. Dull, dull, dull.)

and likely the worst movie I've ever sat thru...

Jawbreaker

Tom
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Kiki

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TomRipley <prisone...@usa.net> elaborated:
: Being John Malkovich (pre-empting some griping, yes I'm serious with

: this one. I have NEVER fallen asleep at a movie before, but BJM put
: me out cold. Dull, dull, dull.)

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed with this one myself. Don't know if I


would call it hte worst of this year, but highly disappointing after
hearing all the praise of it.

: and likely the worst movie I've ever sat thru...

: Jawbreaker

Gah! I watched it cause I liked Heathers and I was like, "well, it is a
Heathers wannabe, it should at least be entertaining." It was a watered
down Heathers wannabe that totally missed the point why Heathers was so
popular (the witty script and the ability to make fun of itself even, both
missing in Jawbreaker).

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S.J.Carras

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>> On 30 Dec 1999 21:22:09 GMT, elu...@aol.com (ELurio) wrote:
>>
>> >Okay, I didn't see virtual sexuality, but how can you not include:
>> >
>> >Julian Donkey-Boy
>> >Species 2
>> >Wing Commander
>> >Molly
>> >The Loss of Sexual Innocence
>> >Drop Dead Georgious
>> >
>> >eric l.
>
>I'm shocked to find myself actually agreeing with Eric, at least about
>JULIEN DONKEY-BOY & DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, the only 2 films on this list I've
>seen.
>
>--
>Steve Erickson
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>
>
>
>
>

Not me, Steve.I haven't seen MOLLY but I have seen DROP DEAD GEORGOUS and it is
hilarious.
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S.J.Carras <gca...@aol.combination> elaborated:
: Not me, Steve.I haven't seen MOLLY but I have seen DROP DEAD GEORGOUS and it is
: hilarious.

Oh good,I'm not the only one that really enjoyed Drop Dead Gorgeous.

Tallulah Blanket

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"Kiki" <tig...@havoc.gtf.org> wrote in message
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> S.J.Carras <gca...@aol.combination> elaborated:
> : Not me, Steve.I haven't seen MOLLY but I have seen DROP DEAD GEORGOUS
and it is
> : hilarious.
>
> Oh good,I'm not the only one that really enjoyed Drop Dead Gorgeous.
>
> Tigress
>

Try "Smile" instead. DDG was just a collection of badly edited cliches in
search of a plot.


Tallulah Blanket

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"Kiki" <tig...@havoc.gtf.org> wrote in message
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> Gah! I watched it cause I liked Heathers and I was like, "well, it is a
> Heathers wannabe, it should at least be entertaining." It was a watered
> down Heathers wannabe that totally missed the point why Heathers was so
> popular (the witty script and the ability to make fun of itself even, both
> missing in Jawbreaker).
>

Girl, if you want a real laugh have a listen to the director's commentary on
the DVD. He thinks he's Fellini. Seriously.


The Great n' Noble GAZA

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In article <84gejh$uqv$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"Alan Graham" <a...@kuhl-graham.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> In no particular order...
>

why even bother watching those movies? do you actually have to plunk
down $8 to discover that, gee, general's daughter and austin powers
suck.

the five worst films i saw this year were

1. deep blue sea. i knew it was gonna be trash but critics said cool
special effects. only amounted to special defects.

2. three kings. much hyped movie is a braindead music video that
PRETENDS to understand the gulf war. very offensive.

3. matrix. big dumb calvin kleinish movie that gives us christianity
and buddhism through much strutting around in leather jackets and
shades through an hail of bullets. a movie for total losers and
idiots.

4. fight club. such talent so badly wasted in what amounts to a
garbage heap. often clever, at times brilliant, always retarded.

5. phantom menace. ridiculous but i at least mildly enjoyed this one.


and i relist the best films i've seen this year. there are still many
highly touted films i havent' yet seen but the best among those i've
seen are

secret defense, eyes wide shut, dr akagi, 1st hr of emperor and the
assassin, thirteenth warrior(my personal fav), princess mononoke
(subtitled version), black cat white cat, blair witch project.

and i mildly enjoyed election, thomas crown affair, and a few others.

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The Great n' Noble GAZA <anthon...@my-deja.com> wrote:

: why even bother watching those movies? do you actually have to plunk


: down $8 to discover that, gee, general's daughter and austin powers
: suck.

Actually, I liked Austin Powers and so did many other people. It got mixed
reviews, but nothing on the level of, say, Wild Wild West. So yeah, you
needed to discover whether or not you'd like it or not.

Lewis.

br0dy

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ELurio wrote in message <19991230162209...@ng-fd1.aol.com>...
>Okay, I didn't see virtual sexuality, but how can you not include:
>

>Species 2
Species 2 was ages ago...

>Wing Commander
Yes, definitely include this

>Drop Dead Georgious
DDG sucked majorly, big letdown, although, Kitsten Dunst is always good
>

I would also nominate Idle Hands
>eric l.

DarthPuck99

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>I would also nominate Idle Hands

But that did have that super-hot chick to kind of redeem it. But then again,
the offspring playing at a high school dance does make for a stupid movie.

Peter

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Here is my list:

13th Warrior
Thin Red Line
Wild Wild West
The Messanger

The Worst:

The Haunting. Jan De Bont should not be allowed to direct another film.

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ka...@my-deja.com

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> The other movie that wouldn't come close to making my bottom list is
> DROP DEAD GORGEOUS...a mockumentary too sidesplittingly funny (in a
> year short on comedies which actually made me laugh) to downgrade.
> A very midrange sort of movie.

I agree -- this movie was hilarious!

ka...@my-deja.com

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>
> The BWP and The Matrix deserve some mention IMO opinion for the way an
> unending volume of hype about groundbreaking, brilliant movies was
undone
> when the two decidedly average films were watched.

The Matrix does not deserve to be anywhere on the list.

Mike Niendorff

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On Dec 30, 1999 at 12:17 pm, "Alan Graham" (a...@kuhl-graham.fsnet.co.uk) wrote :

<snips>

Well, just because no one's mentioned it yet, I have to add a plug for "The Omega Code".
Feature-length TBN ... oh, the horror ...

MDN

Alan Graham

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ka...@my-deja.com wrote in message <84lq2q$go7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>
>>
>> The BWP and The Matrix deserve some mention IMO opinion for the way an
>> unending volume of hype about groundbreaking, brilliant movies was
>undone
>> when the two decidedly average films were watched.
>
>The Matrix does not deserve to be anywhere on the list.
>


Apart from the fact that it was heralded as a new age in film, when it was
just a retread of the sci-fi action film that dominated the last few decades
with Woo rip-offs.

Certainly not the worst film, but honourable mention for the unending hype.

Al


Brooks

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> 5) Taxi. The French try to resuscitate their film industry, by making a crap
> action flik that even Steven Seagal would have considered beneath him.

ouch

DV...@webtv.net

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Mine are;

1) Baby Geniuses ( I can't believe this wasn't mentioned!)

2) Wild, Wild West ( Liked the show!)

3) The 13th Floor

4) From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money

5) Bringing Out The Dead

DVD


Nd1942

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Everyone forgot to mention "Entrapment", completely inane.

pokdamon, digital monster

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what hype?

i saw no hype int he media before watching the film.

all i saw was a lot of people gushing over it here.


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UK film 'Bedrooms & Hallways' was rather excruciating to sit through.
Very pretentious and a completely silly plot.

Dave Reid

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John H wrote:
>

> Eric -- On what flight did you see Molly?

I'm not Eric, but I saw it on a flight
from Amsterdam to Seattle, and it was awful.
I didn't listen to it, and I could tell all the
relevant plot points without any of the dialogue.
I later confirmed with my wife that I had
the plot right.

dave

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Nd1942 <nd1...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> Everyone forgot to mention "Entrapment", completely inane.

Thanks - Just when I had completely put that waste of time and talent out of my
mind, you go off and remind me!

dhmac

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KBusby2256 <kbusb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> worst of 99:
>
> Wild Wild West
> Bicentennial Man
> Jakob The Liar
> Deuce Bigelow
> South Park
>
I agree with the rest, but I put "South Park" on my list of the best movies of
the year. Its a hilarious, outrageous, biting satire that, IMO, is the best
comedy of the year.

And I add to the worst films of 1999 list:
American Pie
The Blair Witch Project
The Mummy

billy...@my-deja.com

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In article <84lpna$geg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

ka...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > The other movie that wouldn't come close to making my bottom list is
> > DROP DEAD GORGEOUS...a mockumentary too sidesplittingly funny (in a
> > year short on comedies which actually made me laugh) to downgrade.
> > A very midrange sort of movie.
>
> I agree -- this movie was hilarious!
>

This movie was a bit uneven at times, but some of it was inspired (and
I'm from Minnesota, doncha know). The crucifix scene, the whole bit with
the guy in overalls; the silent woman judge...very bizarre. A good and
quite dark comedy.

Bill

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In article <386ECAD9...@home.com>,
Pchu wrote:

>
> The Worst:
>
> The Haunting. Jan De Bont should not be allowed to direct another
film.
>

God, I forgot about this. Undoubtedly among the very worst of recent
years. Not even bad-funny, IMO. Others I could have done without seeing
this past year.

The Blair Witch Project
eXistenZ

and probably my winner of the Turkey of the Year

The Phantom Menace, which has the dubious honor (along with "hits" like
Megaforce) as being one of the only movies I anticipate never watching a
second time.

billy...@my-deja.com

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In article <20000102232533...@ng-fq1.aol.com>,

nd1...@aol.comnojunk (Nd1942) wrote:
> Everyone forgot to mention "Entrapment", completely inane.

I thought this was better, via Sean Connery's being in it, than the
abysmal Clint Eastwood TRUE CRIME (was that the title?). Just the scene
of Clint kissing that twenty-year old in the bar in the first reel was
enough to sour me on the picture. Plus, it was, IMO, very close to being
a remake of TRUE BELIEVER, the excellent James Woods/Robert Downey Jr
film of several years ago.

Bill

pokdamon, digital monster

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dhmac wrote:
>
> Nd1942 <nd1...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
> news:20000102232533...@ng-fq1.aol.com...

> > Everyone forgot to mention "Entrapment", completely inane.
>

> Thanks - Just when I had completely put that waste of time and talent out of my
> mind, you go off and remind me!


and people go bemoaning modern tastes.


i just saw entrapment. it reminded me of old
caper movies- some suspense, but mostly lightweight.

but it was watchable.

one of the worst movies of the year?????

please.

she's all that, austin powers 2 carrie 2 were worse, and there's
oodles of bad movies i haven't seen yet i bet were worse.

calling a mediocre movie like entrapment
sultingly bad is just as silly as calling it spectacular.

Nd1942

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>
>i just saw entrapment. it reminded me of old
>caper movies- some suspense, but mostly lightweight.
>
>but it was watchable.
>
>one of the worst movies of the year?????

It's true many people liked it. It was pleasant enough with beautiful people,
but there was just nothing believable about this movie. One could argue that
after all it is just a movie and suspend belief, but every single scene was not
to be believed: the room with strings, blowing a hole in the floor to the sound
of the bell, the antics on the skyscraper, entering the highrise by opening
windows, the nonsense on the subway platform. It just went on and on, like the
director was making a movie just for himself, and nobody ever told him it
didn't make any sense.

(In fact, when the movies get screened for the studio execs, do they ever say
what a piece of shit?)

this damon life

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Nd1942 wrote:
>
> >
> >i just saw entrapment. it reminded me of old
> >caper movies- some suspense, but mostly lightweight.
> >
> >but it was watchable.
> >
> >one of the worst movies of the year?????
>
> It's true many people liked it. It was pleasant enough with beautiful people,
> but there was just nothing believable about this movie. One could argue that
> after all it is just a movie and suspend belief, but every single scene was not
> to be believed: the room with strings, blowing a hole in the floor to the sound
> of the bell, the antics on the skyscraper, entering the highrise by opening
> windows, the nonsense on the subway platform. It just went on and on, like the
> director was making a movie just for himself, and nobody ever told him it
> didn't make any sense.
>


as opposed to something like tpm?

or die hard?


the believability in it for me was int he characters.

i like cat and mouse games.
i liked how i couldn't predict the ending and the twist atthe end.
vapid, but engaging.

> (In fact, when the movies get screened for the studio execs, do they ever say
> what a piece of shit?)


all i'm saying is thatthere were far far worse movies out there
this year, and i've unfortunately seen some of them.

Shawn Hill

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dhmac <dh...@JUSTREMOVETHISmy-dejanews.com> wrote:
: KBusby2256 <kbusb...@aol.com> wrote in message

which was really funny and way better than Porky's

: The Blair Witch Project

nothing more to say about this than it's on my fave list

: The Mummy

which was really fun! sure it was stupid, so what?

I think my least favorite film of the entire year was The Rage: Carrie 2. A
complete waste of a talented cast.

Shawn


MOVIE FRIEND

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Since EPISODE 1:TPM had enough hype for 5 movies it is the only film I
can choose as the worst film of the year. I still can't believe how much
George Lucas let me and alot of other fans down. It is a movie so bad I
don't even really care when EPISODE 2 comes out.


Shawn Hill

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MOVIE FRIEND <ACTIO...@webtv.net> wrote:
: Since EPISODE 1:TPM had enough hype for 5 movies it is the only film I

: can choose as the worst film of the year. I still can't believe how much
: George Lucas let me and alot of other fans down. It is a movie so bad I
: don't even really care when EPISODE 2 comes out.

Episode 2 will probably be much better. I think GL lost touch with what fans
want (and what made Episode 4 so good) over the years; with Anikin older,
and less attention on toys for preteens, he might come up with a better
story.

Shawn


ELurio

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While it's far, far too early to tell, "Next Friday" may very well make it. It
is the first dog of the new year.

eric l.

greenhorn

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Are you on crack?!

Friday was one of the funniest movies of '95, canny wait for the sequel.


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Helen & Bob

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MOVIE FRIEND wrote:

> Since EPISODE 1:TPM had enough hype for 5 movies it is the only film I
> can choose as the worst film of the year. I still can't believe how much
> George Lucas let me and alot of other fans down. It is a movie so bad I
> don't even really care when EPISODE 2 comes out.

I think the hype was mostly in your own mind. Did you stand in line for 30
days? did you HAVE to be in the first showing in your area? None of that
stuff was promoted by Lucas. It was fanboys building it up in their own
minds. There could never, ever, be a film made that would have lived up to
expectations of those people in line for 30 days. I do not fault Lucas for
the hype. That the film was NOT as good as the first 3, is his fault.
Bob


Ray Nicolet

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Uh, don't be an idiot. SuperNova is the first flop of 2000 and it hasn't even
been released yet!

dhmac

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Shawn Hill <sh...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote in message
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> dhmac <dh...@JUSTREMOVETHISmy-dejanews.com> wrote:
> [...]

> : And I add to the worst films of 1999 list:
> : American Pie
>
> which was really funny and way better than Porky's
>
And that somehow makes it good? Although I thought it was unfunny the first
time, I recommend you see it again to see how well it holds up to repeat
viewings - chances are you're going to notice just how bad it is.


> : The Blair Witch Project
>
> nothing more to say about this than it's on my fave list
>

IMHO: "No plot and three irritating morons who don't have the sense to follow a
river when you're lost" != good movie


> : The Mummy
>
> which was really fun! sure it was stupid, so what?
>

It was all over the map. It was trying to be Indiana Jones and, at the same
time, trying to make fun of the genre - this mixed up tone just didn't work. If
it had taken itself a little more seriously, I probably would have liked it.


> I think my least favorite film of the entire year was The Rage: Carrie 2. A
> complete waste of a talented cast.
>

Well, I knew that one would suck based solely on the title, and so I completely
skipped seeing it.

dhmac

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It had some funny moments but I thought "Drop Dead Gorgeous" was too over the
top. If it had more "Waiting for Guffman" like subtlety, it would have been a
much better movie.


dhmac

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Shawn Hill <sh...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote in message
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> MOVIE FRIEND <ACTIO...@webtv.net> wrote:
> : Since EPISODE 1:TPM had enough hype for 5 movies it is the only film I
> : can choose as the worst film of the year. I still can't believe how much
> : George Lucas let me and alot of other fans down. It is a movie so bad I
> : don't even really care when EPISODE 2 comes out.
>
> Episode 2 will probably be much better. I think GL lost touch with what fans
> want (and what made Episode 4 so good) over the years; with Anakin older,

> and less attention on toys for preteens, he might come up with a better
> story.
>
I doubt it. The fact that Lucas has said that Jar Jar Binks will probably be
back in the next film - despite the strong public rejection of this awful
character - shows just how out-of-touch he is with the public, his fans, and
what makes a movie "good."


Helen & Bob

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dhmac wrote:

I don't think there was a strong public rejection of Jar Jar Binks. I think there
was a strong rejection of Jar Jar among movie buffs who post to newsgroups (within
that group I count myself). But, the general public?? I have not heard of tons
of Jar Jar dolls not sold and sitting on shelves. To put it simply, most people
neither hate nor love Jar Jar Binks. You will see him again. WHY? Because G.
Lucas is not making films for the internet posting movie buffs, he is making films
for the general public.
IMHO YMMV
Bob (who at no time said he liked Jar Jar binks)


Jim Mann

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dhmac wrote in message <85ea34$mj1$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>...

>>>
>I doubt it. The fact that Lucas has said that Jar Jar Binks will probably
be
>back in the next film - despite the strong public rejection of this awful
>character - shows just how out-of-touch he is with the public, his fans,
and
>what makes a movie "good."


But the problem with Jar Jar isn't with Jar Jar as a character as such; it's
with the fact that Lucas overuses the character. Jar Jar could have been a
reasonable comic relief character (and in fact was in some scenes). But
Lucas pushed it too far. The section with Jar Jar and his mouth and the pod
racer could have been deleted, as could several other scenes.

---
Jim Mann

Franklin Harris

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"Helen & Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:387AB82B...@ix.netcom.com...

> I don't think there was a strong public rejection of Jar Jar Binks. I
think there
> was a strong rejection of Jar Jar among movie buffs who post to newsgroups
(within
> that group I count myself). But, the general public?? I have not heard
of tons
> of Jar Jar dolls not sold and sitting on shelves.

Actually, the toy companies took a bath on the things, which underperformed
their pre-release expectations.

--
Franklin Harris
Pulp Culture Online
www.pulpculture.net

Helen & Bob

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Franklin Harris wrote:

considering the play of the film, I am surprised. there's a Toys R Us about a
block from me, but I have not seen any ads for "close out" on Jar Jar Toys.
True, it has not been the center of my attention, either.
Where did you find the information about the
Lower sales than expected, and the major question, how much lower? "Taking a
bath" _can_ mean only making 85% of projection. It can also mean "you are in
deep doodoo"
Bob

Helen & Bob

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Franklin Harris wrote:

> "Helen & Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

> news:387BDDA1...@ix.netcom.com...


>
> > Where did you find the information about the
> > Lower sales than expected, and the major question, how much lower?
> "Taking a
> > bath" _can_ mean only making 85% of projection. It can also mean "you are
> in
> > deep doodoo"
>

> Ugh. I can't recall. Do remember that I work for a newspaper, and I see wire
> stories from all over the place all the time. It was a business story to the
> effect that Hasbro/Kenner/Galoob's stock price was suffering because it was
> unable to move "Star Wars" merchandise. Similarly, KFC, Pizza Hut and Taco
> Bell were not coming out well in tie-in sales given what they had to pay
> Lucasfilm to get merchandising rights.
>
> --
> Franklin Harris

Interesting. Perhaps the public will affect some of Lucas's decisions.
Hopefully for the better. On the same line of what sells and what doesn't, and
how judgement varies, look at the popularity of Beanie Babies. But, I was
talking to a store owner about a month ago who said that she had a ton of the
"unpopular" beanies she couldn't move, but if the Beanie Baby Bears came in she
couldn't put them out fast enough.
Bob


Franklin Harris

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"Helen & Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:387BDDA1...@ix.netcom.com...

> Where did you find the information about the
> Lower sales than expected, and the major question, how much lower?
"Taking a
> bath" _can_ mean only making 85% of projection. It can also mean "you are
in
> deep doodoo"

Ugh. I can't recall. Do remember that I work for a newspaper, and I see wire
stories from all over the place all the time. It was a business story to the
effect that Hasbro/Kenner/Galoob's stock price was suffering because it was
unable to move "Star Wars" merchandise. Similarly, KFC, Pizza Hut and Taco
Bell were not coming out well in tie-in sales given what they had to pay
Lucasfilm to get merchandising rights.


--
Franklin Harris
Pulp Culture Online
www.pulpculture.net


Ryan O'Reilly

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How can you forget the western epic Wild Wild West. Did the movie have a plot
at all or was it all just there to tie the special effects and 50 foot
mechanical tarantulas in the late 1890's together.

Alan Graham wrote:

> In no particular order...
>
> 1) Austin Powers 2 - just what I needed, a poor remake of "Spy Hard"
>
> 2) The Generals Daughter - Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull. Can we all go back
> to not liking Travolta now please?
>
> 3) Jakob The Liar - Robin Williams The Crap
>
> 4) Virtual Sexuality - US cinema goers were probably spared this film
> written by a UK agony uncle about a teenage girl who changes in to a teenage
> boy . It also managed the impossible - to make buxom twenty-something women
> dressing as schoolgirls dull. Now that takes talent.
>
> 5) Taxi. The French try to resuscitate their film industry, by making a crap
> action flik that even Steven Seagal would have considered beneath him.
>
> Al


Fawlty

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> Alan Graham wrote:
>
> > In no particular order...
> > 2) The Generals Daughter - Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull. Can we all go
back
> > to not liking Travolta now please?

The movie was dull as hell, true. But Travolta was good in it, as he's been
in most of the recent movies I've seen him in, with the exception of
"Michael", where he was awful. So was the rest of the movie though, so I
don't blame him too much.

/Mike

Alan Graham

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Fawlty wrote in message <8659e8$eas$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...


Travolta's not that great in my opinion. He has a limited range, and while
pretty cool within it, once he steps out of it he loses all credibility for
me.

Al


this damon life

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