Who turned you onto drum corps?
JJAYBOYD
work... lets try it again... and see if we can keep to a drum corps related
topic..
Who turned you onto drum corps? For me it was two people.. my high school band
instructor, Mr. Neubert, and my private trumpet teacher Mr. Kahn...
Mr. Neubert played DCI tapes for us as part of his way of showing us what was
going to be expected in marching band... I fell in love right away.... Mr.
Kahn, when I mentioned it to him said he had been going to shows for years..
and he would let me listen to the acutal classical/jazz/etc recordings of what
the corps were going to do that year... I guess that was where my interest in
learning about shows' musical selections came from... and why to this day I go
out and shop for the CDs of music played by corps to compare/contrast the
actual recording and how the staff arrainged it for the corps...
So.. who was it in your life??
Jason
VKGARRY73
>Who turned you onto drum corps?
Actually, there were a couple of people in my HS band who had been to VK
rehearsals. One of them was another drummer. When I saw what he could do, and
when we all went to a couple of shows, I had to do it.
By the time we were done recruiting over the next 3 years, we had over 15
people from my HS band alone marching in VK at the same time, plus one in the
Anaheim Kingsmen and another in the LA Chinese Imperial Dragons.
All told, we had many more who continued to march with VK throughout the 70's,
and a recent age-out from BD (2001) came from the same school.
>Mr.
>Kahn, when I mentioned it to him said he had been going to shows for years..
>and he would let me listen to the acutal classical/jazz/etc recordings of
>what
>the corps were going to do that year.
We made some tapes like that, finding the original recordings or covers
(Birdland's been covered a LOT!) to listen to on tour.
VKG
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brothers and I to rehearsal. It was a unique experience. When I was able to I
joined. It has been a great run.
Mike Ryan
Hawthorne Caballeros 1975-2003
camille
friends in my hs band (i knew ex's were good for something! lol).
Terri Dittrich
Joliet American Legion Band after WWII and also was my junior high band
director.
He would play Cabs albums for us when we hung out in the band room. Our
show was full of their songs : "Espana Cani", "Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom
White"......etc. Boy, he loved the Cabs alot.
When I was in seventh grade, Norwood Park had a May camp at our school. I
was there the whole weekend watching their rehearsals.
That did it for me. I was a goner. ;-)
-Terri
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Jason
New York Skyliner
that I can 1) identify with, 2) see as unsarcastic, 3) see as relevant, and
4) not argumentative, THEREFORE I'll respond.
Father Joseph J. Donovan, while a parish priest at Madonna Parish in Fort
Lee, N.J., started a Fife, Drum and Bugle Corps back in the mid 50's when I
was in Grammar School. I marched with this Corps for a period of 11 years
before stepping up to Senior Corps. Other members of Madonna went on the
perform in some of the "bigger" Corps in New Jersey. Richie Zink spent a
year or two with the Garfield Cadets in the mid to late 60's, as did Richie
Bernardini (who now resides out here about an hour from me in Pittsburgh,
Pa.) Frank Siracusa spent a year or to with the Cabs before "retiring" to be
the Fairview Rough Riders as their last Drum Major. Tommy Keegan spent one
year with Garfield (1969) before going into hibernation til 1996 or 97 when
he joined the New York Skyliner Alumni Corps and now plays the soprano solo
in "That Old Black Magic". This past May 11th, Father Joe was inducted into
the New Jersey Drum Corps Hall of Fame. Father Joe, in 1964, was transferred
to St. Andrew's Parish in Bayonne, N.J. and guess what Drum Corps he started
down there? :-) Hoppy probably still has mightmares about the "competitive
beatings" that Corps gave him. :-)
In 1964 myself and 3 members of the Fairview Rough Rider Drum and Bugle
Corps travelled to Bridgeport, Conn. to see the "World Open". Now keep in
mind that being a resident of New Jersey the only Drum Corps I knew at that
time was the Hawthorne Caballeros, and being a "good" Jerseyite, they were
the favorite. That all changed the very first time I saw New York Skyliners
in competition. I knew IMMEDIATELY that was the Corps I wanted to be with.
The sheer power of that hornline was AMAZING. (To Mike Ryan with tongue
implanted firmly between cheek and gum. Not only did I have the honor and
privilege besting you on the field of competition [1975] but I also did the
same to your dad [1966]. :-)
On Wednesday evening, November 11, 1964 Gus Wilke, the horn instructor for
Madonna Drum and Bugle Corps and solo soprano with the New York Skyliners
from the mid 50's through the 70's, took me to their rehearsal at the 142nd
Street Armory on the Harlem River Drive and that night I became a New York
Skyliner for life, and no liar, sneak and/or chickenshit assholes will EVER
change that. :-) Gus Wilke himself is now a member of the World Drum Corps
Hall of Fame. Very interesting point. More times then not it is your own
Corps administration that will put you up for nomination to the "Hall". In
Gus's case it was a number of his chief competitors who nominated him, a
truly unique experience.
Siglow
MWS987
Sea. Was unimpressed till the Lancer Rifle Line came out! WOW! Been a major
fan since then.
Picman6500
My mom's butcher (in those days butcher's had their own shops) was Mr.Miller. I
went to work for him and saw a patch from the Buckeyes Drum and Bugle Corps in
the car. I asked since I was an avid drummer. He told me that his daughter was
color guard captain and her fiance was drum caption for this corps. They
invited me to practice and to a show that weekend. It was when the Buckeyes got
the people on their feet that I was sold forever. Thank You Mike and Marsha
where ever you are!!
Joe Sabol
Sambuca312
Dad. He had marched with the local Boys Club Corps prior to the Second World
War.
Many of his friends from his work (also alums of the Boys Club) had their kids
in one or the other of the recently started city Parish or PAL corps.
So one Fall evening he, and the business manager of the CYO parish corps took
me to practice at the Church Hall. That was in 1958.
The rest is history.
SAM
Melissa
brass at the time, they took over the TV lounge at band camp one night to
play these videos. So, I watched the videos and decided that I would march
DC after woodwinds started marching. I've now gotten smart, switched to
brass and will stick with DC until George successfully gets the woodwinds
in!
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Melissa A McClelland
Mirage Sr.- 1995
Cincinnati Tradition- 2001-???
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Jeffsjetta
Keith Hall
No one. When I was about 7 or 8 years old I saw this group marching in the
street (practicing for parades). When I was 10 I saw the same corps at a
local parade and my father talked to the DM and Director and the next Tuesday I
was given a soprano, music, uniform and told to buy white bucks. The rest is
history. I will always remember all my friends and great times with the Royal
Coachmen (NY).
Keith Hall
2001 gRAMDie "Hall of Fame" Nominee
Rochester Crusaders 1990, 2001 - forever
Patriots 1984 -89
Schlossgarde (Germany) 1986-88
Royal Coachmen (NY) 1969 - 1977
Joe and Em
great "blasting" sound, took me to an indoor spring time show in Rochester,
NY. I saw a 50 man hornline owned by Mighty St. Joe's (it was all male at
the time). The next week, I was playing second baritone.
From those humble beginnings, and after St. Joe's folded, I moved on to:
1.Geneva Appleknockers
2.Auburn Purple Lancers
3.Blue Angels (Greece, NY).....assistant horn instructor
4.US Navy drum and bugle corps
5.Rochester Crusaders
6.Empire Statesmen.. founding board member
7.Muchachos of Manchester, NH
Jason, all I can say is marching or not, drum corps never leaves your
system. Thanks for starting this thread, here's hoping it stays drum corps.
God bless drum corps, and thanks dad for showing me drum corps.
Joe Whelehan
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a smaller extent, Dale Pumela (sp?), who went away to Colt one summer
and came back with killer chops.
Liz Duguay
my college marching band's drum major, Dave Dion, who was the Hurcs DM in
rookie year ('91). and Chris Szabo, a drill writer for many high school
marching bands in the area, who was at WCSU w/ me as well and had marched
Sunrisers.
i thank both of them for greatly changing my world (i guess i should just as
equally place the blame on them too :>) )
L
SVaughn21
instructor who really convinced me to go tryout. I'm glad he did-was the best
summer of my life so far.
Susan
Southwind 96
Steve Spang
> Who turned you onto drum corps?
My mother, who doesn't have a musical bone in her body. She got a tip from a
co-worker (VFW member) that she should take her kids to see the 4th of July show
held in Everett. His post sponsored the Shamrocks Jr. Drum and Bugle Corps. Big
fireworks display.
I became a member of the Shamrock organization that September, 1964. I marched my
first season playing cymbals with their feeder corps the Bel-Airs, 1965.
--
Spang
ColtsContraCutie
camp. We ended up cutting rehersal early that night and the corps put on a full
uniformed preformencae with us. THis was in '99 after the fire, so they didn't
have their own uni's. No one in our band other tham me had ever seen a drum
corps before, and we were all dumbstruck after watching the reheral and
performance. Afterwards we got to hang out with the memebers and talk. I had
allways thought that they were all college kids. So I never though about
marching, until that night. I told my band director that was what I wanted to
do, not only did I want to be a part of that. I wanted to play contrabass. my
director told me that I wasn't good enough, and that I was too small and had
implied that girls couldn't do that. So, about 6 months later I went to a G-men
camp, and came back with a contrabass.....I wish that I could have taken a
picture of the look on his face. Ever since then I have been hooked. I also
enjoy being one of the smallest contra players in DCI. This summer I carried a
horn that was more than a third of my body weight. :)
-Dawn Estep
Americanos sop '00
Americanos Contra '01
Colts Contra '02
Shadow_7
> post something that I can 1) identify with, 2) see as
> unsarcastic, 3) see as relevant, and 4) not argumentative,
> THEREFORE I'll respond.
Agreed.
For me it was Greg(forget the last name) who was a baritone player in my
HS Marching Band. Greg along with the high school drum major, another
baritone player, and a clarinet player all marched the Freelancers in
'87(after the Freelancers were inactive in '86). How they came across
it I don't know, but I saw the average baritone guy come back with super
chops.
Greg played Euphonium in drum corps. I'm not sure what the other
baritone player played, but it may have been baritone or Euph, his name
was Ryan. The drum major Gordon played Contra. And the clarinet player
David played cymbals. All of which were relatively average before drum
corps. Then came back after one summer as super stars. Ryan replaced
Gordon as the drum major the next year. Greg had a baritone solo. Even
David the clarinet/cymbal player played a baritone solo during our
senior year in high school a few years later.
Needless to say seeing these average joes come back with some backbone
impressed me and I went along with some of them for the next years
corps. We even brought a few other members with us. Which worked out
well since we could car pool with each other. Which was good for me
since I didn't even get a drivers license(by choice) until I was almost
21. And 450 miles was a long way to drive on a bicycle.
My first drum corps show was the first show that I performed as a member
of a drum corps. The first drum corps that I saw was the marauders
since they went on shortly after us. I marched until I aged out after
five years of junior drum and bugle corps.
Shadow_7
'88 - '92 Freelancers (Euphonium line)
Dorothy
finals broadcasts which I caught one year by chance, channel surfing.
I was a parent of two young boys. One was in a grammar school music
program at the time. To see the intensity of the corps members
waiting to go on, performing, the marching off the field, the
self-discipline, the commitment, was extremely compelling. At that
point I didn't know anything about corps or how to see the shows.
Then, after moving back to Illinois, came a chance contact. In July,
1981, The Royal Grenadiers, a small corps out of Kankakee, IL, had a
booth at the Kankakee County Fair. I pulled my son over to the booth
and told him to ask them questions to see if he was interested. He
did and took one of their (monochrome) posters home. Where he put it
in a drawer & forgot about it.
Later, I saw a small blurb saying that there would be a show in
Whitewater, WI, August 8, 1981. We drove up there after picking up my
sons after a week of Boy Scout camp. Behind the stadium after
prelims, I watched a line of drummers from the Santa Clara Vanguard
get in line all by themselves, no instructor, and practice that
afternoon. We walked around, watched and talked with some of the
corps members. My husband didn't want to spend the money to see the
finals show that evening, and it was a very long drive home, so we
left.
My younger son wound up joining the Grenadiers for several years and
later moved on to play with Phantom, then Blue Devils. I drove three
boys to and from camps for many years, but believe it or not, it
wasn't until the first summer he marched that I saw a show for the
first time.
As a result of personal experience, I suggest that corps give their
members' parents an introduction to the activity. Tell them what to
look for at shows, how the high view differs from the low view; invite
them to come view a practice; organizing them to get blocks of tickets
to shows in their area, etc. Some parents are very active in their
kid's activities, others hold back for many reasons.
JRMarks
Tell us about the 'Ferns'. You told me and I thought it interesting enough
to ask you to repeat it here. Fascinating and amusing story - now a part of
California drum corps history like the story of the 'White Stallions' of
Northern California fame.
JRMarks
PS: How're you and the So Cal Dream doing? Very very well I hope.
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Catherine
possibility....
-- Catherine
chucknaffier
seeing them in parades when they were still the Colt .45's when I was in jr.
high school and thinking "Wow! Cool cowboy uniforms." This would have been
about 1975 or 1976.
Throughout the next 4 years I had many friends in band who marched in the
Colts, and were always trying to get me to come to a rehearsal to check it
out.
Finally, in the spring of 1980, Jim Mason (then the Colts director) did a
presentation during band class at Dubuque Senior High School. I was knocked
out (I want to say we watched some highligts from 1979 DCI and maybe a bit
of "One Night In August"), and one of my friends and I decided to check out
a Thursday night rehearsal out at Roosevelt Park/Zoo on the west side of
town. . . the regular rehearsal site for the Colts for many years.
I remember being thrown into the drill to sink or swim. Having only marched
pinwheels and standstill "picture" shows in my high school band, this was a
bit intimidating, but I managed not to injure myself or anyone near me. Jim
pulled me off the field for a "playing" audition later that same rehearsal.
He told me to play a low "C". Then a middle "C". Then a high "C". . . all
of which were no problem for me, an average high school junior trumpet
player. Then he said "Play a Grand C". . . I kind of laughed and said
"right. . . ". . . put my horn up to my face, screwed up my embouchure, and
blew. . . air. I didn't have that kind of range, and thought it silly to
even try. Jim told me to listen to the guy down there on the field playing
the solo. . . that guy turned out to be Greg "Harpo" Blum playing his famous
"Summertime" solo. . . over and over and over. . . never missing.
Needless to say, (the short version of the story) I wanted to play like
that. So I stayed. . . for the rest of my life!
So, I'd say the people who most directly influenced my start in drum corps
were:
Jim Mason (Former Colts Director/Brass Arranger - now of BLAST)
Dave Asa (my brass instructor all 5 years I marched, and still a friend
today)
Greg "Harpo" Blum (buddies for life)
David Huntley (a sometimes poster here on RAMD) -- he always blew me away
with how well he played snare.
my short story,
Chuck Naffier
Drum Corps Lifer
PJC11251
York Mets. If I lost the bet, I would have to join the local church drum corps
that was going M & M from a standstill corps. Like I really knew what he was
talking about at that point in time.
Regardless to say, I lost the bet and here I am, 35 years later still a fan of
the activity.
PS - I am still a fan of the New York Mets also.
Phil " A 1973 Ageout"
VKGARRY73
>Hey Garry,
>Tell us about the 'Ferns'. You told me and I thought it interesting enough
>to ask you to repeat it here. Fascinating and amusing story - now a part of
>California drum corps history like the story of the 'White Stallions' of
>Northern California fame.
The Fresno Ferns were created as a joke on Drum Corps News. There was an
article written, a picture taken, all about a new junior corps in Fresno, CA.
At the time the picture was taken it was the off-season. The picture showed a
HUGE number of people, all in blue jeans and T-shirts, mostly VK and Kingsmen
members.
Harver Berish, then with the Knickerbockers and a writer for DCN, was the poor
soul who decided to run with the story, and the rest is history, and urban
legend.
There was one actual performance of a group that called itself the Fresno
Ferns. It was a bunch of VK members who entered a parade in Seal Beach, CA. The
parade march was "Felix, the Cat", and that "fern" leaf on the bass drum head
looked a little suspicious.
>PS: How're you and the So Cal Dream doing? Very very well I hope.
Finishing this reply and heading off to our Open House/Meet N Greet. Haven't
you seen all the posts we've been putting up?
bill turner
corps was all about drums, which is kinda funny since I never played
drums in corps.
I'd started drumming in '63 (age 6) and, though I learned rudiments in a
kinda rudimental way, it was at a Louie Bellson clinic that I learned
rudiments could be way cool. I'm sure Louie said something about drum
corps, because I remember thinking what an odd term it was: Marines with
drums?
Sandy Nelson taught me to play set in '67. He had me working out of a
Mitch Markowitch book (I think) and he'd add right-foot bass drum parts
to it. We'd sit on the back of his boat wailing away on snare pads and
bass drum pedals. I used to be able to play some mean open and closed
rudiments, swapping my right foot for either hand. Sandy talked about
how good corps lines were, and told me I should march if I ever got the
chance. I remember it was very hard to come up with the $2 for my
lessons; and that I didn't really care about marching, I just wanted to
play like Louie... or like Sandy.
Jon "Bermuda" Schwartz was my best friend in LAPD's jr. band around
'70-'72. He had a collection of corps records that I got to hear a *lot*
of. He always wanted to march Diplomats but thought he didn't have the
chops. I too thought I could never play like that and switched to
trumpet in LAPD just so I could play a bugle when I finally marched in a
corps. In retrospect both of us had plenny chops. But if I hadn't have
switched to horn, I'd've never had my modest little career as a sop and
mello soloist.
Officer Paul Hord directed police band and kept the kids away from
corps. In retrospect he was trying to hold together a national champion
band, even though police band was already considered a "feeder corps"
for Dips, AK, and VK. Since the police band staff were all active duty
cops, wearing their guns, we kids listened. So even though I remember
Catherine from '71 Houston, I didn't see a corps until seeing SCV
pratice between tours in '72. Little Robbie Carson let even-littler me
play his snare during a break.
I finally saw a show, my first, at the '72 AL junior and senior corps
championships at Soldier Field; *that* was a defining moment for me!
After probation was up, I was free to cross the Orange Curtain, and
though I started with the Kingsmen, I eventually settled into happy
VK-dom.
-- bill
p.s. nice thread, Jason.
PghGuy-Bari2
Boys & Girls Club corps, church sponsored corps, American legion & VFW
corps. You had to go only as far as the local organization and get
involved with corps. There were 20 corps within 20 miles of Pittsburgh,
Pa back in the late 1950's and early 1960's. I started with a local
fire company drumcorps in 1958 and graduated to an upgraded corps in
1961, Vern Acklin Cavaliers. It was like another world when I became a
member of the Pittsburgh Rockets drumcorps. I traveled with friends and
competed with the Yankee Rebels in the mid sixties. Back to my roots
and Vern Acklin to participate in the RCA Circuit during the 1970 until
there were no corps in Pgh to compete with anymore. 1981 brought about
a new awareness for drumcorps in the area and the Steel City Ambassadors
were formed to compete in the ICA circuit and move onward and upward to
become DCA members. Steel City was done in the 1992-93 season. Still
wanting to march, there was a movement to form Soundwave from Butler,
Pa in the mid 1990. The corps didn't last but 2 years and I joined Steel
City Alumni. Six decades of marching drumcorps and I still can't get
enough of this in you face music they call drumcorps. Thanks for the
great time and it wasn't ME and Mike with the 2 brothers that were
caught streaking an after competition party in Hanover in 1974.
Pgh Guy Bari 2
Extraordinaire
John G
JJAYBOYD
>
>p.s. nice thread, Jason.
Thanks... As I had said this is what I tried to do... not to stir up the crap..
I should have just started this without putting a certain persons name in the
title... My bad.. at least I made good..
I am really enjoying the posts... go figure Id do something nice.. damn..
there goes my 'aura' of being a jerk... oh well.. ;) LOL
Jason
Joe and Em
chores on Saturdays or going to drum corps. I've loved every minute that I
have marched, and will continue to love this great hobby.
Emily Hemingway
rochester crusaders 1997-2000
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> Ok... since I tried to start a drum corp related thread once and it didnt
> work... lets try it again... and see if we can keep to a drum corps
related
> topic..
>
> Who turned you onto drum corps? For me it was two people.. my high school
band
> instructor, Mr. Neubert, and my private trumpet teacher Mr. Kahn...
>
> Mr. Neubert played DCI tapes for us as part of his way of showing us what
was
> going to be expected in marching band... I fell in love right away....
Mr.
> Kahn, when I mentioned it to him said he had been going to shows for
years..
> and he would let me listen to the acutal classical/jazz/etc recordings of
what
Shawn Hines
jjay...@aol.com wrote on 9/22/02 20:30:
>> -- bill
>>
>> p.s. nice thread, Jason.
>
> Thanks... As I had said this is what I tried to do... not to stir up the
> crap..
> I should have just started this without putting a certain persons name in the
> title...
True ...
Guelah49
to Spirit camp in 96. I didn't get to march(summer school), but I never
would have known about Corps without him.
EG Zephyr
>Jay wrote:
>
>>Hey Garry,
>>Tell us about the 'Ferns'. You told me and I thought it interesting enough
>>to ask you to repeat it here. Fascinating and amusing story - now a part of
>>California drum corps history like the story of the 'White Stallions' of
>>Northern California fame.
>
>The Fresno Ferns were created as a joke on Drum Corps News. There was an
>article written, a picture taken, all about a new junior corps in Fresno, CA.
>At the time the picture was taken it was the off-season. The picture showed a
>HUGE number of people, all in blue jeans and T-shirts, mostly VK and Kingsmen
>members.
>
>Harver Berish, then with the Knickerbockers and a writer for DCN, was the
>poor
>soul who decided to run with the story, and the rest is history, and urban
>legend.
Hi Garry and Jay
You're correct Harvey took the bait and ran the story...
I was writing for Drum Corps Digest at the time and
also recieved a huge PR envelope complete with pic of the "barn" corps hall
like a good reporter - I decided to check it out first
and since I lived in the San Joaquin Valley I smelled something funny in the
air
and didn't run the story - although my editor in Chicago had heard about it as
well.
I guess I missed my opportunity to be part of a drum corps legend ;-)
Now to keep on topic - just like Spang,my mom brought me to my first corps
rehearsal -
She thought I needed a little discipline in my life - Little did she know the
moster she had unleashed. I joined the Stockton Police Cadets that later became
the Stockton Commodores (charter member) then I marched for Stockton' Joaquin
Caballeros (Sr.) and later marched a few shows with some great west coast Jr
corps of the era.
Ralph O
West Coast Contra
EG Zephyr
<snipped>
>Here's an actual article from DCN 1969..... that I posted before:
>
> Sunday night, June 22, saw 35 star eyed but weary children re-board
>the
> chartered bus which had brought them to see the American Legion State
>Contest
>in San Diego, California.
> This wasn't just an ordinary group of youngsters, but a nucleus of the
> drum and bugle corps the city of Fresno hopes will grow into one of the
>nation's top-flight competing drum and bugle corps. The Legion parade which
>marched down Broadway was the first exposure most of the kids had to first
>class drum and bugle corps. The field competition that followed was almost
>too
>much for them ! Shortly after the first of this year, a group of
>Fresno
>businessmen gathered to discuss plans for the formation of a youth
>organization. Because the Legion Convention had been held in Fresno the
>previous June, and because of the high calibre of competition between the
>drum
>and bugle corps, it was decided to form a competing junior drum and bugle
>corps. Members were obtained from the local junior and senior high schools.
>But, alas, all the explaining and describing could not tell the whole story.
>Being so far from the active corps center made it difficult for the kids to
>understand what was expected of them.
> It was decided that a field trip to the State Contest in San Diego should be
> undertaken. It seems that this was just what the doctor ordered. The
>contest,
> held under ideal conditions, was the spark that ignited a fire.
> Being that Fresno is the location of one of the largest fern forests
>in
> the western United States, the name for the new corps almost fell into
>place.
> The Fresno Ferns hope to field a competitive corps for the first time during
>the 1970 season. Until then, the corps will participate in local functions
>with
>an occasional trip to the big cities north and south.
> The staff of this up and coming corps is headed by Irving Rosenburg in
>the position of Business Manager. Instructors are all local talent, with
>various drum corps background : bugles are taught by Zack Zitto, drumming is
>instructed by William, "Billy" Ashford and last and definitely not least, is
>former Marine D.I. Rino Arzaga as marching and maneuvering coach.
>
> The corps recently purchased a complete set of barely used bugles from
>a
> disbanded corps in the east. A new set of drums is due anytime. The corps
>staff
> is now making arrangements for a top musical arranger from the east to fly
>out
> twice a month to instruct the corps. Presumably a well known drum man and
>drill
> man will also be employed to bring out the best in their captions. The men
> backing the corps want only the best.
>
> We hope that in the near future our corps will be able to take its
>place
> on the competition field with the great drum and bugle corps of today.
Great Article Nanci
Just out of currosity - was there a writer's name on the article?
Just wondering if someone other than Harvey Berish took the bait.
I shot photos for Drum Corps Digest at 1969 Legion State in San Diego
and I didn't get the slightest "whiff" the Ferns were around.
Ralph O
Terri Dittrich
in June 1986 at ten months old?
Seriously, I have asked Andy daily if he is tired of marching and I get a
resounding "NO!".
It is his drum corps experience......
-Terri
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Terri Dittrich
Archie changed my life in many ways, God rest his soul. Good, bad.......but
never uninteresting.......
I am sure that someone will pull a horn out of my cold, dead hands sometime.
Hopefully about 40 years from now.......
-Terri
"NanciD" <Nan...@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:28:48 GMT, "Terri Dittrich"
<terri...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Archie McAllister, Jr. Famous bandmaster from Joliet, IL who formed the
> >Joliet American Legion Band after WWII and also was my junior high band
> >director.
> >
> >He would play Cabs albums for us when we hung out in the band room. Our
> >show was full of their songs : "Espana Cani", "Cherry Pink and Apple
Blossom
> >White"......etc. Boy, he loved the Cabs alot.
>
> Boy! That musta sucked! Heh
>
> >When I was in seventh grade, Norwood Park had a May camp at our school.
I
> >was there the whole weekend watching their rehearsals.
> >
> >That did it for me. I was a goner. ;-)
>
> You still are aren't ya? LOL
>
> >-Terri
> >
> >"camille" <badb...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:20020922081558...@mb-md.aol.com...
> >> i became interested about drum corps because of my ex-boyfriend and
some
> >> friends in my hs band (i knew ex's were good for something! lol).
> >>
> >
>
>
BklynMario
george maloney
> Lovin this thread so far.. keep it up! :)
>
> Jason
Me too, nice post.
In 1968, at the ripe old age of 12, I got two offers, from two very
different friends. Join a local street gang to reclaim our turf from
other rival gangs moving in or join the local D&B Corps, The Nutmeg
Rangers from New Britain CT.
I choose the open road over the streets and it has made all the
difference in my life. They gave me a horn and the chance to get out
of the hood once in a while. I made new friends and realized how small
our little turf really was. It opened my eyes to the great big real
world out there. Drum & Bugle coprs gave me a chance to earn the
respect of my fellow members with only one bodily fluid required.
Sweat, no blood or tears required. I can never thank Bosco Morris
enough for turning me on to a good thing. I still love it, always
will.
George
As a side note: Slightly off thread(Sorry) Bosco also turned me on to
Tower of Power as a kid. Many years later I ran into him. He was such
a big fan of T.O.P. that after going to all their concerts for years,
he became good friends with some of the members. I go to Toads Place
in New Haven one Sat. night to see T.O.P. and run into the whole
Morris family at the night club sitting in the V.I.P. section. So I
say what's up with that and they tell me to come over to the house
tomorrow for a BBQ. So I do and half the band is at Ma Morris's house
enjoying her good home cookin. Come find out they have been stop'in by
while on the road through CT. for years to enjoy a little bit of home
on the road. Ma Morris always made everyone feel at home, she's one of
the people who made it easy to love the corps. Got to meet and hang
out with some of my favorite band. The funny thing is they didn't want
to talk about themselves at all. We talked football, basketball and
Drum Corps for hours. The best part is we got Lee Thornburg lead
trumpet at the time to come to a Connecticut Hurricanes rehearsal and
throw his two cents in. He came in the rain and hung out for a while.
Also gave the Corps a plug at Toad's the next night. Half the Hurcs
were there and he said to the crowd, if you think our five horns are
loud you've got to hear these guy crank up their 50. Great weekend.
Sorry for the long slow trip dowm memory lane.
Boomike
me on to drum corps. I was standing in the hallway on a Wednesday night. (This
was in November of 1974, back when even DCI corps were still so local that
rehearsals could be on a weekday. We didn't have weekend rehearsals until the
following year.) He grabbed me and said I was going with him to observe a
Cavaliers' rehearsal.
I had nothing better to do and thought it might be a neat way to waste some
time. What I didn't expect was to get totally hooked, call my parents the next
day and tell them I was dropping my summer job, uniform up and march the local
Park Ridge Thanksgiving parade that weekend, and have drum corps become a very
major part of my life to this day, as I write extensively for DCI (program
books, web articles, CD liner notes, etc.)
If I wasn't standing there in the hallway that day, I might have a "normal"
life now. I shudder to think about life without drum corps.
Thanks, Dave. And thanks for this column idea for "Fanfare." I wouldn't have
thought of it.
Mike
charlie groh
Steve Spang
> Sandy Nelson taught me to play set in '67.
*THE* Sandy Nelson? (lol) I learned to play the set in the basement of my
friends house (Sandy Johnson) by playing along with his recordings of the
mid 60's.
I had to prove to my parents I could handle a full set before they forked
out $600 to buy one for me to play.
I'll never forget it... Sonor, black metal flake. She was a babe!
--
Spang
Nancy Holgate
Steve Spang <ssp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> bill turner wrote:
>
> > Sandy Nelson taught me to play set in '67.
>
> *THE* Sandy Nelson? (lol)
Yes.
*THE* one.
D. Crooks
I've had a lot of fun reading everyone's replies. So, I guess I'll give
my story.
Summer of 1990 I started practicing with my first high school drumline
(my middle school actually had marching band, and I played snare, but
that's another story :). I basically knew nothing about drum corps,
marching percussion, etc. It was a whole new experience for me, to be
sure. The only thing I knew about marching band summer of 1990 was that
The OSU Marching Band was The Best Damn Band in the Land (I'm from OH).
Anyway, our high school has a long tradition of people marching drum
corps (at that time we had a snare drummer in Cavaliers, as well as a
few horn players in other corps) so marching band members wore corps
t-shirts to rehearsals all the time. I thought the names looked cool,
so I got a little interested.
My first real introduction of drum corps came in 1991, when some friends
took me to a show in Columbus, OH. Limited Edition was still around,
and a good friend of mine was in their snare line so I was anxious to
see them. Well, needless to say SCV was at the show, and when I saw
them my heart stopped. I thought that was THE end all/be all of
marching percussion. Not only that, but the horn line also blew me
away, and after that I was sold. My friend in LE's snare line convinced
me to go to some camps in '92, and I think I would've made the cymbal
line (my percussion playing had light years to go, but apparently a
marching instructor thought my marching was OK). It was fun and I
wanted to do it, but my parents said it was either that or the Rose Bowl
next year (my HS band marched in the Rose Bowl '93 and it cost around a
grand. My parents made me choose one or the other). I figured, "well,
LE will always be around, so I'll wait until next year." I drummed with
my friend like mad, and went to some camps again and loved it.
Unfortunately the corps folded, and it was another several years before
I made marched my first show.
So, I guess it was my friend Eric "Gooch" Ward (marched snare for LE 91,
92 and snare for Cadets 93-95; now on staff with Cadets) who got me into
drum corps. The shows, tapes and videos helped, but it was the camp
experience that really drew me in.
Coincidentally, as a side note, I first me my wife at those LE camps in
'92 (though we didn't really know it at the time).
--
doug
'We are ONE'
Catherine
news:3D8E653...@earthlink.net...
<snip>
>>...Don Clark ring a bell, Ralph? cg<<
Don *is* a drummer...
-- Catherine
Shadow_7
> before they forked out $600 to buy one for me to play.
And to think that that kind of dough wont even get you one summer tour
in junior corps these days.
S7
IkeLash24
15 years old. I was absolutely captivated by it, and swore that I would do it
someday. So now I do :-D
bill turner
Sandy was a friggin' monster on set. When I met him he'd already
recorded ten albums, one of 'em went gold, and he played on several
other folks' top-ten stuff. Impressive since all his music was rock
instrumentals, drum-centric. He was totally rudimental too, and that
approach stuck with me to this day. Sandy was an L.A. kid so I don't
know where he learned about corps, but he did tell me about it and
encouraged me, years before I ever saw a corps.
Sandy's still playing, too. He did have a webpage but it seems to be
down.
Sonors, heh...
-- bill
Jeffsjetta
coaster;)
>Subject: Re: Who turned you onto drum corps?
>From: NanciD Nan...@att.net
>Date: 9/22/2002 5:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <sjesou8cdp5q6drfi...@4ax.com>
>
>On 22 Sep 2002 14:10:25 GMT, jeffs...@aol.com (Jeffsjetta) wrote:
>
>>genetics. like i had a choice w/my bloodlines. :)
>
>You have bloodlines???
>I thought you were fed Labatts via IV
>
>
>
>
>
>
Jeffsjetta
Our life isn't normal? Life w/out corps to me seems quite odd and far
from normal.
Jeff
>Subject: Re: Who turned you onto drum corps?
>From: boo...@aol.com (Boomike)
>Date: 9/22/2002 8:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20020922204158...@mb-fz.aol.com>
Shadow_7
> and won't make a good coaster;)
Yet another good use for the cheese head hats.
Rick and Sue Deschene
showed us that old McCormick's filmstrip of Santa Clara, and I was
hooked. But it took a friend of mine from that same high school band to
get me to march. She'd tried out and made it into Phantom's guard in
1978, but it turned out she couldn't afford college, car payments and
the trips to camp in Rockford all winter long, so she had to quit. She
had written to several corps prior to joining Phantom, and
coincidentally, after she quit Phantom, someone from Oakland called her
up. She didn't have to join up till the May camp, so she felt like that
was more affordable. Since there were several guard spots still open,
she asked me if I'd like to go up to Toronto with her. I said yes, and
of the three of us who went up, I was the only one who returned the
following year, and then the next one, and marched till I aged out.
Sue
EG Zephyr
I shoulda guessed only Don could "drum" up a story like that... (my bad)
Ralph O
Frank Rachel
(spelling may be wrong). Both were/(are?) DCI Judges led a few members to
Garfield, and I followed a year or 2 later (when I was old enough)..
M Gail P
The staff of the local corps blitzed the area with yard signs when they
were starting. Every 1/2 mile a tree or field would have a sign -
Music! Travel! Summer fun! That year, my mom said Girl Scouts or Corps.
(Our scout troop was active & took a weekend trip somewhere about once
a month.) When the troop was disbanded 2 years later (High Schoolers
CAN'T actually enjoy museums, old houses, etc., can they!) a few of
those signs were stll arround. One of the other x-Girl Scouts had made
1 camp when I called to get info. My first corps experience was not
music, though, or even marching. NO, it was selling soft drinks &
pulling beer at Jazz Fest '90 to raise money for tour. The next weekend
was my first came. "I play clarinet, so since I'll have to learn just
hand me whatever instrument you need most." That gained me a bari and a
spot as 1 of the 3 girls in the 24 member hornline. Money meant i could
only march 2 years but the addiction lasts forever!
--
M Gail P
mgailp_...@go.com
Expressions Bari '89-90
Cybercorps Contra '94?
VKGARRY73
>hey dont get mad at me cause yer heard has a point and won't make a good
>coaster;)
Your HEARD? What the heck is a heard?
VKG
Indecision may or may not be my problem
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Nev
Got a phone call from him in early 1965, inviting me to a rehearsal of the
new Wichita KS Scarlet Lancers. I had no idea what drum corps was, but got
hooked on it at practice.
Our opener that first year was --appropriately-- "From This Moment On".
fsj6310
Heard is a group of cattle! Anyone who's been to Whidbey should know
that!
jake
cow tipping for fun and profit
Daniel Ruiz
--
________________________________________
Danny D. Ruiz | How many times do you hear it? It goes
dand...@mindspring.com | on all day long. Everyone knows
| everything, and no one's ever wrong...
1998-1999 U.M. Band of the Hour Tuba| Until later...- Rush (Show Don't Tell)
2000-2001 Boston Crusaders Contra ----------------------------------------
2002 FIU Banda del Sol Tuba section leader...
Terri Dittrich
The "Mud People" painted "COW" on........well, a cow in Oakley, Kansas. So
they were forever immortalized as "the MUD people"
funny what you remember in middle age.....
-Terri
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Bill
School in Western Pennsylvania. We were just learning how to play
these instruments called Flutaphones. We had a very energetic
instrumental music teacher named Miss Galetka...and she invited the
local cadet drum and bugle corps (ages 8-13)to come in for a school
assembly to play.
I was jealous that all these kids as young as me had an activity they
were doing that I wasn't...so I just had to join. I started as a
cymbal player when I was 8. Then I played the tenor drum when I was
9...then moved on to play snare drum for 3 years from age 10-12. When
I turned 13, that's when I moved up to the touring corps (ages 13-21)
and marched for 4 more years...playing mallet keyboards for 2 years,
snare line for 1 year, and lead soprano in the horn line the last
year. I had always played trumpet in school, but wanted to do
something differnt in drum corps...hence the drum line experience.
They had a shortage of brass players my last year, so I switched over.
I never made it to age-out because I had tired of the whole activity
after 9 years...but I sure wish I could go back in time and march
those last 5 years through the Summer of 1985. But I stopped in 1980.
So it was Miss Galetka who did it for me!
fsj6310
jake
in the middle ages
FPonzo2255
>street (practicing for parades). When I was 10 I saw the same corps at a
>local parade and my father talked to the DM and Director and the next Tuesday
>I was given a soprano, music, uniform and told to buy white bucks. The rest
is
>history. I will always remember all my friends and great times with the
>Royal
>Coachmen (NY).
Keith,
That kinda sounds like my story......
When I was 14, I moved from New York City (Washington Heights to be exact) into
Bellmore NY. Well....one night, I heard this music coming from across the
street, from our local fire house. Since I was a saxophone player, I decided to
check it out. I met the director (Johnny June....who is now marching in the
Cabs Alumni), and this kid who was a percussion player. His name was Chris
Bauer. Well......I asked Johnny if I coiuld be in the 'band' and he told
me...."This isn't a band...it's a Drum and Bugle Corps". I told him I didn't
know how to play a bugle. So......he asked Chris to bring a baritone bugle from
out of the closet. Chris asked me if I knen anything about it.....of course I
said no. So.....he told me..."You take the horn, put it to your face, and go
like this.....PPPPPFFFFFFHHHHH" So I did, and I got my first sound out of a
brass instrument. The rest is history for me. This is why I give all the credit
in the world to Chris for teaching me how to play the horn!
SO..........the 2 most influential people that turned me onto Drum Corps were
Johnny June, and Chris Bauer!!!!
BTW.....That corps I first joined was the North Bellmore Flames. At the time,
they were THE Drum Corps to be in on Long Island (Granted....it was only a
parade corps, but man.....they were GOOD!!!!), and they were also the favorite
to win the NYS Fireman's Parade every year!!!!
Man.......I miss them! Life was so simple then.
Frank Ponzo
New York Skyliner
"FPonzo2255" <fponz...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> When I was 14, I moved from New York City (Washington Heights to be exact)
Geez, I din't know they allowed EYEtalians into the Heights. I din't know
they allowed yous guys outta White Harlem. I used to hang out at The Caroll
Inn, The Coliseum, Maniacs (and about 60 other "Emporiums") over there. How
come we never bumped into each other then? Or maybe we did I just can't
remember. :-0
Siglow
Wil
show back in 1982. Been following ever since.
Wil
JHuf810870
my mom had my other sisters in the spring, so they weren't around in the
"formative" stages of life........
mom and dad, during her (so i've heard many times) horrible pregnancy........
Ü
jan
JJAYBOYD
>
>Frank Ponzo
Im sure life was... like people would call people back... talk to them if
something was wrong... explain things to them, etc..
Not at ALL like it is nowadays..
(inside 'joke' for me and Frank)..
Jason
FPonzo2255
>come we never bumped into each other then? Or maybe we did I just can't
>remember. :-0
Well....it could be because I was only 14 when I moved....as opposed to you
being...(ahem.....) 30????
LOL
Hope your well Mike!!! See you in Virginia next week???
Frank
ColtsContraCutie
>
thanks....it's good to know that we're appreciated
-Dawn Estep
Americanos Sop '00
Americanos Contra '01
Colts Contra '02
New York Skyliner
> > How
> >come we never bumped into each other then? Or maybe we did I just can't
> >remember. :-0
>
> Well....it could be because I was only 14 when I moved....as opposed to
you
> being...(ahem.....) 30????
>
> LOL
HEY!!! HEY!!! HEY!!!! Knock it off. :-)
> Hope your well Mike!!!
Had a little scare a week ago Friday but it was nothing to worry about,
things are great. Thanks for asking.
> See you in Virginia next week???
Sorry, can't make it. Stepson #1 is getting married Saturday. You just play
good and don't suck.
> Frank
Siglow
Kay Eltman
Well I guess I've been around it all my life too, however, it began on a small
scale. I too, started in a parade corps, The Pequa Redmen, from Massapequa, NY.
My father was the director, my brothers played soprano and my sister was in
the guard, and I couldn't wait until I was big enough to join. Ok I was never
big enough, but I did become old enough.
I would like to point out an additional fact, that Mr. Ponzo left out, perhaps
he's not aware……Chris Bauer's first percussion instructor, was the
percussion instructor from the Pequa Redmen, Cal Meyers. Cal was also one of
the original Sunrisers.
So while Mr. Ponzo makes audacious comments about the Flames being THE drum
corps on Long Island, I'd like to point out, with no Pequa Redmen, there would
not have been an encounter of Chris being taught by Cal Meyers, in turn, Chris
not teaching Frank to play a brass instrument.
While, I must concede the fact that for a Parade Corps, the North Bellmore
Flames were indeed pretty good, there were many others, that in their hay day -
were just as good - thank you very much.
Tee hee - while this is all true - its all meant in good fun!
Kay
Susan Zellea
Jim Russo was the drill instructor at Fair Lawn High School in 1991
and my son Jarrett was a freshman there. Russo kept asking me if
Jarrett could come down to the post to see the CABS. (I only knew of
them as a parade corps, never saw a competition). Once Jarrett came to
the post, I knew my husband and I were in trouble. He was hooked! At
13 and a member of the soprano line, my husband and I weren't going to
let him loose with all these older guys, so if you can't fight 'em,
you join them! 12 years later, Mike has been a member of the equipment
crew and the honor guard, Jarrett a member for 4 years and Randy, our
younger son, has been a marching member (pit and baritone) for 10
years (he was 12 when he started). Me, I've been at the souvie table
since 1992 and plan on staying for awhile. I still say to Russo, only
parades, huh? Our lives haven't been the same since the first time we
walked into the post! We wouldn't trade those experiences for
anything!
Susan Zellea/CABS booster staff
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Garth Benham
early 50's.
GB
Ron Allard
>My dad. He played Snare for the Rochester Grey Knights in the late 40's
>early 50's.
Then he was with them when they were the Hilton Crusaders?
He must have some GREAT stories...
(And I'd love to hear them...)
--
Ron in Vegas
mailto:ron.a...@att.net
"Because there was always something about the Skyliners...
and that music..."
- Donnie Solinger
Senior Corps History site:
http://www.SrCorps.com
Bob Doran
Actually, I went to a drum corps show in 1957....and saw two corps
that really stood out: The Hamm's Indians and the Jolly
Jesters.....they were so much fun, and the crowd was so "into them",
that I HAD to do drum corps....plus, it got me out of chores at home.
> 2 people:
> my college marching band's drum major, Dave Dion, who was the Hurcs DM in
> rookie year ('91). and Chris Szabo, a drill writer for many high school
> marching bands in the area, who was at WCSU w/ me as well and had marched
> Sunrisers.
> i thank both of them for greatly changing my world (i guess i should just as
> equally place the blame on them too :>) )
> L
Lisa Barthelme
first show when I was still in my mommy's belly.
Then, all of my friends from high school & my drum instructor & his
wife were also both influential in turning me on to, and getting me
into drum corps.
Lisa
Jeff Abney
(I was about to be in the 10th grade) about 80 miles to watch the
Charioteers practice in Ensley Park in Birmingham, Alabama in 1975. A
former student of Gary's from my high school was marching in the
Charioteers then.
The city employees were on strike, so the corps was marching on a
field in the park that had grass growing half-way to their knees, but
it didn't matter; I knew I was seeing something different and very
special. I remember how "sweet" the bugles sounded to me -- so
different than a marching band's sound.
The Charioteers were a small corps, and Jimmy Dinkins, who was their
percussion instructor then, had me and another drummer play some
things for him and talked to us about joining. I wanted to, but at
that time and at that age couldn't travel to B'ham to do it.
Interestingly, Jimmy Dinkins ended up judging percussion at many shows
I marched in when I finally achieved my goal of being in a corps
(Spirit of Atlanta.) The same director who had taken me to see the
Charioteers (It was a blast for me when Gary brought another bunch of
students to see me practice with Spirit -- it was really cool knowing
that my involvement then turned on some of the other students to drum
corps.)
Jeff Abney
Spirit of Atlanta tenors 80, 81
CorpsVets 98, 99, 00, 01, 02
Jacksonville State U. Marching Southerners 78, 79, 80, 81, 83
JHuf810870
>My aunt marched drum corps in the early 80's, and I was actually at my
>first show when I was still in my mommy's belly.
>
sounds like you and i have a lot in common. please tell amy i said hello.
Ü
jan
Lisa Barthelme
>
> sounds like you and i have a lot in common. please tell amy i said hello.
>
> Ü
> jan
I will do that.
Lisa
JHuf810870
thanks! i only have her phone number at work, and you know how difficult it is
to get in touch with her.
btw, if anyone is wondering.....lisa's aunt was my guard instructor at phantom.
Ü
jan
Big Rich Soprano
Ya can't leave this alone can ya.... Woodwinds do NOT a drum corps
make!
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from Magic!
- Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law
Benny Bass Drum
> Ok... since I tried to start a drum corp related thread once and it didnt
> work... lets try it again... and see if we can keep to a drum corps related
> topic..
>
> Who turned you onto drum corps? For me it was two people.. my high school band
> instructor, Mr. Neubert, and my private trumpet teacher Mr. Kahn...
>
> Mr. Neubert played DCI tapes for us as part of his way of showing us what was
> going to be expected in marching band... I fell in love right away.... Mr.
> Kahn, when I mentioned it to him said he had been going to shows for years..
> and he would let me listen to the acutal classical/jazz/etc recordings of what
> the corps were going to do that year... I guess that was where my interest in
> learning about shows' musical selections came from... and why to this day I go
> out and shop for the CDs of music played by corps to compare/contrast the
> actual recording and how the staff arrainged it for the corps...
>
> So.. who was it in your life??
> Jason
the person was Gus Wilke of the Skyliners. I was 11 years old-had
watched the american legion state championship in wildwood, NJ. He was
talking to my Dad-and said to come to Secaucus to the Meadowlarks
practice-that was 1966. When the Meadowlarks folded(yes, I know,
everyonew believes the Meadowlarks merged with the Townsmen to form
the Royal Brigade, but it was in actuality the Meadowlarks kidette
corps)I went to St Andrews Bridgemen with Gus and his
son...............Benny
Big Rich Soprano
>
>
>Ya can't leave this alone can ya.... Woodwinds do NOT a drum corps
>make!
Yah i know i know... neither can i...lol
Benny Bass Drum
> PEPE
another of the Greats!