? on Michael Cesario
KayChanclr
involved as a show consultant and uniform designer? I know I have heard he has
credentials in theater. Did that somehow get him in with a corps? Who was the
first corps he was affiliated with?
WRoe424922
....Michael is an alumnus of The Kilties. I am not familiar (or really
remember) his other drum corps performance experience with other corps.
Tom & Karen Peashey
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Terri Dittrich
band.
-Terri
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Cameron Scott
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Michael Kolle
Kenosha Queensmen (I'm not saying a word!) with some time (i believe) with the
Shoreliners, Racine Elks Band and Kilties.
Michael "Well swash my buckle!" Kolle
In article <nw1hb.8853$mQ2....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Terri...@earthlink.net says...
Ken Norman
Michael Cesario was never a Kiltie. The Kiltie master roster 1950-1979
lists 48 Mikes, one Mickey, and one Mick. No Michaels. No Cesarios.
The Queensmen's only director has confirmed that Cesario had no ties
there.
Cesario was a woodwind player, we do know he played contrabass
clarinet in the Racine Elks Band.
His first corps affiliation was with the Elkhorn Titans.
In 1975-76, he wrote drill for Kenosha's Bradford H.S.
Sis
Hmmmm. So did Cesario ever march drum corps?
The man took one of the most recognizable drum corps in America and
turned them into "Who's that?" in one season?
Jackie
Terri Dittrich
Queensmen. He has also claimed the '78 Kilties but even I was skeptical
about that, having been on tour with them that year.
I thought he was with the Kenosha band but I'll take your word for it,
Mikey.
-Terri
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Terri Dittrich
the Kilties that year.
-Terri
"Terri Dittrich" <Terri...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:...
Gordon Martinez
from his resume listed in a recent competition
program of mine.
"Michael Cesario is an Associate Professor of Theatre
Design/Technology at the State University of New York--Purchase and
heads the Professional Training Program in Theatre Design and Stage
Technology. He has designed costumes for Broadway, off-Broadway, and
regional repertory stages throughout the United States, and has been
represented by the European tours of I LOVE NY and CARAVANSERAI by
Ballet Hispanic. His work is as diverse as Julius Caesar at Stratford,
CT, and the Lincoln Center Salute to Cy Coleman at Avery Fisher Hall.
His professional credits include Playwrights Horizons, McCarter
Theatre, Houston's Alley Theatre, Indiana Rep, Pittsburgh Public
Theatre, and CBS-TV specials. He is the foremost designer of uniforms
for outdoor pageantry, including Drum Corps International."
What may surprise you, on top of his impressive stage resume, is that
he received his Bachelor's degree in Woodwind Performance (Clarinet
Major), is from Kenosha, Wisconsin and has an EXTREME depth and
knowledge of not only music of the Symphonic genre, but his knowledge
of concert band/wind band literature is astounding.
Having been one of his students in both corps and having been enrolled
in many of his summer marching band director's clinics, the man has
seen all and done all in the world of pageantry (drum corps, marching
band, color guard, winter guard). I have undying respect for the stamp
he has placed on what we do and, though you may not always agree with
the productions he has helped conceive, he has both influenced
directly and by teaching others how to do what we do in marching band
and drum corps. [FOR EVERY CADETS SHOW YOU MAY DETEST, MICHAEL HAD HIS
HAND IN THE LEGEND THAT WAS PHANTOM 1989]
That, in a nutshell, are the credentials of Michael Cesario.
Sincerely,
Gordon Martinez
Director of Bands
Del Norte High School
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Phantom Regiment Contra 1991 and 1992
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Catherine
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Given the list of posters pushing this crapola, I can think of a lotta other
midwestern corps it would be easier to get away with formulating a BS corps resume
from...
Will check on the Shoreliners - and Mariners, just for a pre-emptive strike there.
-- Catherine
kiltiesdrumguy
Cesario in the corps but that doesn't mean anything, he might have had
a nickname. I think he may be telling the truth, if he were going to
lie about being in a corps, he would have picked a better one.
No offense to to my plaid brothers from then but I still think '78
prelims was a makeup call for what happened to us in '77...
See ya
Catherine
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Mr. Cesario's "expertise", such as it is, is all about band and DCI.
I find your assertion that he knows anything about drum & bugle corps offensive.
Drum "corp", blando bando crapola - well, he's a regular genkus god of all time.
Isn't he a Hall of Shamer as well?
The only "legend" about DCI is the positively marketed one... and that has NOTHING to
do with drum & bugle corps.
So even with all your words, Mr. Martinez - what is Mr. Cesario's actual marching
drum & bugle corps experience? Are those persons asserting otherwise liars, or are
they passing on fraudulent information unknowingly? Since you are an educator and
have a responsibility to your students, to teaching, to music and to the faith placed
in you, certainly you can come up with something more substantive and on-point?
I also have a friend in New Mexico... Did you move there after growing up in the
midwest? Where did you attend college? Were you in local bands and/or corps other
than your two years in Phantom? Hope your alma mater wasn't UW-Whitewater or
UW-Parkside...
-- Catherine
Catherine
Cesario was in the corps under an assumed name?
Do you even know whom Michael Cesario is? When did he begin announcing on the DCI
broadcasts? Since you - whomever you are - are a 1978 corps guy, perhaps you
remember those? Do you seriously believe that anyone would see a guy on those shows
and not speak THEN about "oh, did you know he marched in the 1978 Kilties?" -- let
alone "I remember when I was in the corps and so-and-so spoke of...
How old is Michael Cesario? What would have been his age-out year? If he's older
than I am now (46), then he could not have (legally) marched in 1978. That might be
a simple way to decide...
I'm less interested in this personally than I am the lies and the uncredited,
undetailed resumes - particularly by, for and about alleged and tenured "educators"
with no demurrals one way or another. It's not the sort of "knowledge" I signed up
for either in drum & bugle corps or college... and has nothing whatsoever to do with
ethics and music, let alone "excellence"...
-- Catherine
"kiltiesdrumguy" <mcn...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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Jeff Ream
just answering your question.
>Subject: Re: ? on Michael Cesario
>From: "Catherine" catherineburr@yahoo!!!.com
>Date: 10/9/2003 11:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <b5qhb.27180$ev2.7...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
Jeff Ream
"I'm the drummer your guard captain warned you about"
Catherine
>
> just answering your question.
So - if that's the case - six years after the fact, whenever the Kilties were
mentioned (if ever, at that point), he never mentions "when I was with the corps..."
Doesn't Rondinaro sometimes mention his corps experience?
Of course, as long as Cesario or anyone who is actually willing to state - under
their own name - "when I marched with him in X corps"...
All we really have thus far are statements by other people, which have about as much
meaning as "DCA will never go multikey" or "DCI has the kids' best interests at
heart"...
-- Catherine
Jeff Ream
but i just answered a question. i dont know and/or give a happy shit as to
where he marched if he did march.
as to why he has/hasn't said anything i couldnt tell you.
and for the rest of your issues you insert into EVERY topic, well, you know how
i feel about that.
>Subject: Re: ? on Michael Cesario
>From: "Catherine" catherineburr@yahoo!!!.com
>Date: 10/10/2003 12:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Mwqhb.27195$ev2.7...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
Catherine
> and for the rest of your issues you insert into EVERY topic,
> well, you know how i feel about that.
Yes. For some "tired rhetoric" <$.02 to Garry>, it's to be expected. "Funny" how
such isn't found to be even more tiring - on the merits. But it's also "funny" that
you moved from "helping" to using my further commentary for more "tired rhetoric".
And aren't you more (if not as) concerned about one of the main beneficiaries of DCI,
which is following a path you plan on boycotting, possibly telling lies in order to
mislead people - while others who no doubt *do* know stay silent thereon?
Good night, Jeff.
Jeff Ream
as likely as you posting anything w/out your references, name droppings,
insulting, bullying, caps, and stuff only you would know about.
but to get to the point, yuou asked a question about when he started on the
telecast.
i answered.
from there, everything else you typed was drivel and unrealted babble.
>Subject: Re: ? on Michael Cesario
>From: "Catherine" catherineburr@yahoo!!!.com
>Date: 10/10/2003 12:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <6Vqhb.27203$ev2.7...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
fletcher
but thanks to dci he is now one of their top experts in the
corps-to-bando transition team.....
his uniform designs are all similar for a reason- he is the official
dci uniform designer, therefore all of his designs are, "uniform"...
basically, boring, ugly shit. and what's with those stupid mirrors?
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Terri Dittrich
Good one, Mark.
-Terri
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Catherine
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> actually Catherine, i am done w/DCI on 1/1/04 unless a&e is
> repleaed, which is as likely as you posting anything w/out
> your references, name droppings, insulting, bullying, caps,
> and stuff only you would know about.
#-- If only I know about them, then why all the demonstrated concern?
#-- I must know a lot of unusually insightful people - given that they don't seem to
find my terminology obfuscating. It's also interesting to me that most of the same
people who declare my terminology obfuscating rarely seem to have trouble with
"review terminology" all these years - creative writing which I find terribly
misleading, with communicated senses that have little whatsover to do with the blando
bando corps being designated.
> but to get to the point, yuou asked a question about when
> he started on the telecast.
>
> i answered.
>
> from there, everything else you typed was drivel and unrealted babble.
Not everything is "all about you", Mr. Ream. Not even EVERYTHING is. But I can
understand either your having trouble with seeing the relationships, or pretending
not to and lying about it.
Catherine
> some time (i believe) with the Shoreliners,
Not the Queensmen, and thus far, not the Shoreliners - 68-70. Will check with the
1971 horn instructor.
<snip>
I'm curious. Cesario is being alleged to have marched with all these groups from the
60's through the 80's (am told that the Black Watch was an 80's band - they weren't
around in '76). Had he actually marched in corps, the fact that such hasn't been
made public as part of his "glowing resume" up until now is suspect, given all his
years in DCI.
Gee, imagine positive marketing containing lies...
There are plenty of midwestern corpspeople who will stand up, and continue to stand
up, for genuine drum & bugle corps not being something one has to lie about - people
with enough integrity to realize that lies degrade the liar, the activity and any
possibility of achieving something worth caring about.
That scam artists can draw short-term benefits therefrom - and that such mediocrities
admit their own shortcomings by demonstrating that such is the best they can hope
for - is not exclusive to (what currently passes for) the drum corps world and their
minions. Such is also why fewer people choose to have anything to do with groups for
which "knowing to keep silent" is an unwritten requirement of membership.
Such is NOT excellence... nor is it an example of those who passed the genuine assets
being exploited down, in trust. When the assets are being corrupted for other ends,
one can only hope that such will not continue to be so passed.
-- Catherine
Jeff Ream
methinks maybe you try too hard to make associations where they really arent.
you like to make sweeping assignations of blame when in fact, if you narrowed
your search down, you may actually do good.
it is often better to cut thru the fat. broad generalizations only do you in.
>Subject: Re: ? on Michael Cesario
>From: "Catherine" catherineburr@yahoo!!!.com
>Date: 10/10/2003 9:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <npyhb.27268$ev2.7...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
Catherine
-- Catherine
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Dan Scerpella
before DCI you were legal at age 21. When I joined Scouts in 77 I thought I
would be a rook-out. Turns out they had changed the rule, or I never
understood it correctly.
Ken Norman
Can't tell ya how many times I've been introduced to some guy claiming
to have been in the Kilties.
Oh Yeah?
But then they can't remember what year(s), who taught them, what tunes
they played, where they traveled.
So I pull out a pen and ask for their name, address, and phone. For
our (nonexistant) Alumni Association. And I casually mention
fundraising.
That usually ends the charade.
Sis
>What is the past tense of "wannabe" ?????
>
>
>
"neverwas".
;-)
Jackie
>
>
JHuf810870
>>What is the past tense of "wannabe" ?????
>>
>>
>>
>"neverwas".
oh, yes she did!
Ü
jan
good one, sis!
Jeff Ream
oh wait that was Phantom. sorry
;P
>Subject: Re: ? on Michael Cesario
>From: kno...@rootcom.net (Ken Norman)
>Date: 10/10/2003 8:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <e79b6362.03101...@posting.google.com>
Jeff Ream
>Subject: Re: ? on Michael Cesario
>From: "Catherine" catherineburr@yahoo!!!.com
>Date: 10/10/2003 12:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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JHuf810870
>didn;'t Neil Peart march Kilties?
SMACK!
>oh wait that was Phantom. sorry
ahem........thank you...........
Ü
jan
Cadet'04
Just wanted to throw out my opinion on this "Michael Cesario
scandal" (mainly just to give some people, *cough* Catherine *cough* a
slight conniption fit...=-p). Never the less, I have had the
opportunity and pleasure to work with Michael several times before and
I can say that no matter his drum corps experience, the man knows what
he's talking about. Perhaps one of the greatest advantages he has, is
that his ideas aren't construed to drum corps' history and his
perspective and experience allows him to look outside the box a bit
easier than others. Also though some may disagree, his uniforms are
unique, "aerodynamically fit", and still portray the historical looks
that DCI & DCA fans have come to expect. For example, when I heard
that the Cadets were going to be getting new uniforms, I remember
thinking that I couldn't imagine them in anything else than what they
have now. Now don't get me wrong, I don't oppose change, but some
things just shouldn't be changed. And if you read the interviews with
him on DCI.org (http://www.dci.org/news/features.cfm?feature_id=04330984-28d0-44cf-ad0a-142967206b10),
he goes into detail about the changes and how his intention was to
keep the traditional design. On the other hand, regarding Phantoms
unis, the white was a much better choice IMO than the cream. (Though
the black was still my favorite...) So change is good, and he's great
at seeing what works with what corps and what doesn't.
Also, regarding his drum corps experience, I'm afraid I don't
know where he's marched and all that jazz, but I do know that he
wasn't the person that said he marched Kilties. So I'm not sure why
there are personal attacks on him about lying and such because he has
had no comment about this whole subject matter.
And finally IMO, Michael has a great eye and a great talent for
designing uniforms, flags, and show concepts. He knows how to "make a
corps disappear" on the field by changing the backs to more solid
colors and not putting on the mirrors and such.... (Also, the idea of
the mirror is obviously to give the corps a natural sparkle to them,
similar to why corps use silver horns). So I'm not sure of his drum
corps experience, but I do know that he has more talent and passion
for this activity than the people here dedicated to degrading better
people than themselves. One final note, he is also a great
motivational speaker and can deliver some amazing speeches. So I say
carry on Mr. Cesario and continue to lead DCI & DCA to a better
tomorrow...
-Hope no one is to insulted that I'm a Michael Cesario fan-
Take care,
Ryan
WRoe424922
>didn;'t Neil Peart march Kilties?
>
NO!!! That was Keith Moon you're thinking of. But, Charlie Watts played
cymbals on sesson, but he moved on, he was the kinda guy that just drifted from
corps to corps...kind of a rolling stone.
Alan Cunningham
perenial contenders during that era. Just my Plaid Pride showing
through again!
Maybe some Plaid history lessons are in order for some.
www.kilties.com
Aldo
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Terri Dittrich
WE even beat them by over 3 pts. at finals.
No one disputes the greatest of the late '60's, early to mid '70's Kilts. I
don't think. ;-)
-Terri
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Catherine
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A 8-time RAMD and NG poster (under this screen name) named "Ryan" who, if he is
telling the truth, is connected with Syracuse and Kingston and likes the BD wrote:
> Hey all...
> Just wanted to throw out my opinion on this "Michael Cesario
> scandal" (mainly just to give some people, *cough* Catherine
> *cough* a slight conniption fit...=-p).
Sorry. You'll have to do better, er.... be far more effective in what you intend.
You see, I've had much, much worse from people I actually once gave a shit about...
> Never the less,
That's one word.
> I have had the opportunity and pleasure to work with Michael
> several times before
Oh, I'm impressed <not>.
> and I can say that no matter his drum corps experience,
Good thing - that no matter. I will expect to see your demurrals from now on each
time a target is attacked for not having the "right" experience.
No matter his LACK of GENUINE drum corps experience, even though apparently his
family had done corps? Sound like the typical wannabe ta me. Of course, since Mr.
Cesario and his family are so very forthcoming and open about all the details, we
can't know fer sure. Gee, I wonder why that would be, eh?
> the man knows what he's talking about.
And we should listen to your evaluation... why? Particularly in the face of multiple
numbers of EVERYONE coming forth and lying in the grand, er... bullshit tradition of
EVERYTHING?
> Perhaps one of the greatest advantages he has, is
> that his ideas aren't construed to drum corps' history
No fucking shit.
> and his perspective and experience allows him to look
> outside the box a bit easier than others.
Ah, the "positive marketing" putting that Downey-esque spin on why he CAN'T connect
with drum & bugle corps. If Cesario were a genius and not a genkus, he wouldn't have
ANY trouble bringing BOTH newbies and genuine drum corps alumni from all generations
on board. Since he's limited to EVERYONE's snake oil sales and bullshit, and the
parasitizing of an historic, flourishing and beloved activity, all EVERYONE is left
with is the justifying of failure and destruction. I 'spose he "knows how to
appreciate" blando bando corps too?
> Also though some may disagree,
Oooh, nice appearance of being reasonable. It must be really sad to have to
acknowledge and even point out how flawed EVERYONE's own gods of all time are at the
same time one is putting together these tributes and awards. Do you have to shower
after writing this crapola? How do you live with the shame and look yourself in the
mirror after degrading yourself thusly? Do you have anything in your life you can
completely, openly, proudly and freely believe in without lying about it?
Gee, what a temptation the DCI success track is... NOT. Something to really want
your children and grandchildren to follow in your footsteps doing... NOT (unless you
are incapable of any sort of decent love in favor of using your offspring for your
own selfish, short-term benefit). Gee, I wonder if that's why so many drum corps
alumni want nothing to do with today's genkus version of in-name-of-corps-only
marching band and field performance theater, and why selling newbies on this scam is
so tough, even with the "evolution"...
> his uniforms are unique,
#-- Cesario uniforms "unique".... A - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Do you
even believe yer own bullshit?
#-- And "uniqueness" in uniforms matters as a value to drum & bugle corps... why?
Particularly over other considerations...
> "aerodynamically fit", and still portray the historical looks
How is this possible, logically? Explain how "uniqueness" and "aerodynamic fit"
still portrays the historic looks - particularly when above you state "his ideas
aren't construed to drum corps' history" and he "thinks outside the box". Do you
even care that your attempt to defraud is internally inconsistent? Do you ever watch
"whodunit" movies to see how lies - and "positive marketing" - trip people up?
That's logic, bunky...
And if you or Mikey had ever belonged to a drum & bugle corps whose success was
grounded in their consistency and solid integrity, you and he would have a clue...
> that DCI & DCA fans have come to expect.
"Lowered Expectations" <$1 to MadTV>
> For example, when I heard that the Cadets were going to be
> getting new uniforms, I remember thinking that I couldn't
> imagine them in anything else than what they have now.
> Now don't get me wrong,
Oh, I'm sure EVERYONE, DCI & DCA fans and even genuine drum corps people know exactly
what's coming...
> I don't oppose change,
And this is always a virtue... why?
> but some things just shouldn't be changed.
Oh, the voice of reason pretense again.
> And if you read the interviews with him on DCI.org
You just lost a lot of people. Internet interviews... DCI.org... Oh my, it MUST be
twue!!!
Not.
Also interesting the other Cesario interviews which have not been picked up and
discussed on RAMD...
>
(http://www.dci.org/news/features.cfm?feature_id=04330984-28d0-44cf-ad0a-142967206b10
),
> he goes into detail about the changes and how his intention was to
> keep the traditional design.
If Cesario truly cared about keeping the traditional design, he'd get the fuck away
from drum & bugle corps - along with EVERYONE. They don't give a shit at all about
that. Except, of course, if traditional designs - acquired along with ownership of
other drum corps assets by wannabes and neverweres who 1) cannot create their own
corps that exceed what pre-genkus corps was and is, and 2) don't really care to -
because they hate genuinely classic corps in favor of "real music and musicians" they
hope to use corps to suck up to - can have the "Michael Cesario" name and "sprucing"
<not> added to them and sold as his own...
> On the other hand, regarding Phantoms
> unis, the white was a much better choice IMO than the cream. (Though
> the black was still my favorite...) So change is good, and he's great
> at seeing what works with what corps and what doesn't.
Yes, we see the stunning success of the growing, flourishing blando bando team
activity and the thoroughly consistent and "not worried about appearing 'reasonable'"
positive marketing... </sarcasm>
> Also, regarding his drum corps experience, I'm afraid I don't
> know where he's marched and all that jazz, but I do know that he
> wasn't the person that said he marched Kilties. So I'm not sure why
> there are personal attacks on him about lying and such because he has
> had no comment about this whole subject matter.
Perhaps it's because he and no one are stepping up to put at end to these bullshit
speculations. Perhaps it's because there are so many people who are so free to state
that they "know" - when the details are lacking. Here you are, "Ryan", not exactly
forthcoming yourself.
Gee, how do blando bandos know that making "drum & bugle corps" a load of fucking
bullshit pisses off those who have achieved genuinely? Even more on point, what does
it say about a drum corps world <pun intended> who actually enjoy doing so,
destroying even the possibility of what could be, rewarding bullies who actually are
so sick and psychopathic as to ENJOY such work, and at best reducing better people to
sitting on their hands in silence, lest they subject their corps, their families and
others they care about to the sort of treatment I and others have been "blessed with"
<$.02 to Howdy and his multiple screen personae> for decades now?
> And finally IMO, Michael has a great eye and a great
> talent for designing uniforms, flags, and show concepts.
Nice adjectives. Too bad there ain't any genuine evidence therefor...
> He knows how to "make a corps disappear"
He also knows how to help an entire activity disappear.
> on the field by changing the backs to more solid
> colors and not putting on the mirrors and such.... (Also, the idea of
> the mirror is obviously to give the corps a natural sparkle to them,
> similar to why corps use silver horns).
Here we go... why Michael Cesario has come along and "educated" decades of drum corps
veterans and fans to the fact that shiny stuff sparkles. Whatta genkus...
> So I'm not sure of his drum corps experience,
Thanks for admitting you don't know shit about anything important in drum & bugle
corps. In fact, thanks for coming forth (as much as you have) and admitting that to
EVERYONE, drum corps experience ain't worth shit. EVERYONE can dismiss all the time,
effort and achievements of drum corps people in a second, by an anonymous screen
name, if it suits them.
I will expect to see in all those genuine marketing packages and all all blando bando
corps websites a disclaimer that drum corps experience doesn't mean anything -
compared to the successful experience one can better find elsewhere. Thanks for
helping to admit that destroying any value to the drum corps experience is of less
value to you than in elevating Michael Cesario and EVERYONE.
I'm also expecting to see the multitude of flames now because you don't know what
you're talking about <psst - Catherine - you won't> K. Nevermind...
Unless you want to admit unfair standards, unfairly applied, and blando bando corps
is nothing but positively marketed lies?
> but I do know that he has more talent and passion
> for this activity than the people here dedicated to
> degrading better people than themselves.
You and Michael Cesario degrade not only yourselves, but drum & bugle corps, genuine
achievement and achievers, and even scam arteestes who at least know to try to keep
their scams a secret.
> One final note, he is also a great motivational speaker
> and can deliver some amazing speeches.
Snake-oil salesman...
> So I say carry on Mr. Cesario and continue to lead DCI
> & DCA to a better tomorrow...
Stay the hell away from drum & bugle corps. Let "DCI & DCA" (your words - I 'spose
DCA is now part of blando bando assets?) become brass & percussion theater and
succeed - or fail - on their own merits. After all, given how great Michael Cesario
is... Or don't you believe your own hype?
> -Hope no one is to insulted that I'm a Michael Cesario fan-
Hey, if you aren't, you can write what you like. I'll be here...
> Take care,
> Ryan
You betcha.
-- Catherine
Jerome Kimbrough
Phantom marched Kilties?How was that done?
;o)
Terri Dittrich
doh!
-Terri
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