Christian trumpet player Greg Murray raised from the dead to raise money for Hatti victims
vettepassesyou
raise money for Hatti victims
http://dailyme.com/story/2010040300002385/hometown-gospel-trumpeter-play-haiti.html
Here is the link to the Trumpet Herald posts where Greg Murray faked
his own death, stole well respected gospel trumpeter David O'Neill''s
music, and defrauded several people on eBay selling trumpets:
UGH...
Jeff
> "Christian" gospel trumpet player Greg Murray raised from the dead to
> raise money for Hatti victims
great, now it's posts about zombies...
Thanatos
<ee722a3d-9cb2-46db...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Jeff <jeff.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, you know what they say, "When there's no more room in hell, the
dead will walk the earth."
vettepassesyou
> In article
> <ee722a3d-9cb2-46db-a904-da13b2142...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Jeff <jeff.helge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 30, 2:44 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > "Christian" gospel trumpet player Greg Murray raised from the dead to
> > > raise money for Hatti victims
>
> > great, now it's posts about zombies...
>
> Well, you know what they say, "When there's no more room in hell, the
> dead will walk the earth."
So I get a call from that (Gregs?)704 cell #. A guy called claiming to
be named Mark Aldridge who claims to be Greg Murray's booking agent.
He claims to be in charge of "His Name Agency". I suspect, but can not
prove, that the person claiming to be Mark Aldridge might very well be
Greg Murray himself. His voice on the phone sure did sound like Greg
Murray.
Should any of you wish to "book" Greg Murray, (or have other buisiness
with him)"Mark Aldridge " 's phone # is 704-437-1596.
"Mark" claimed that it was his fault that Greg Murray was distributing
CD's that were recorded by David O'Neill.
I asked " Mark" how he had gotten ahold of a David O'Neil Cd?
No Answer.
I asked "Mark" if he had contacted David O'Neill to appologize for the
mistake. "Mark"'s answer:
No.
Do a Google Search on His Name Agency, nothing...
This might be the guy, but in 2008 he was from WV, not NC:
http://www.hisholyspace.com/view_profile.php?member_id=858
I doubt this is him, as of 3/2010 he was still in WV:
http://www.myspace.com/PASTORHOOCH
Mark claimed that Greg Murray recorded at "His Name Recording
Studio" , yet a Google search pulls up nothing:
Thanatos
<87874fcc-4ce4-4cc2...@o14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
vettepassesyou <usatr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> enUS367US368&q=%22His+Name+Agency%22
>
> This might be the guy, but in 2008 he was from WV, not NC:
>
> http://www.hisholyspace.com/view profile.php?member id=858
>
> I doubt this is him, as of 3/2010 he was still in WV:
>
> http://www.myspace.com/PASTORHOOCH
>
> Mark claimed that Greg Murray recorded at "His Name Recording
> Studio" , yet a Google search pulls up nothing:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA
> enUS367US368&q=%22His+Name+Recording+Studio%22
Yeah, none of that has anything to do with what I said.
vettepassesyou
>
> This might be the guy, but in 2008 he was from WV, not NC:
>
> http://www.hisholyspace.com/view_profile.php?member_id=858
>
> I doubt this is him, as of 3/2010 he was still in WV:
>
> http://www.myspace.com/PASTORHOOCH
>
> Mark claimed that Greg Murray recorded at "His Name Recording
> Studio" , yet a Google search pulls up nothing:
>
BUSTED!!!!
So I go to erase the phone #'s of everyone who called me today. Guess
whose caller ID # name came up when I looked at the 704-437-1596 phone
number?
Not "Mark Aldridge"
But rather Bobbie Murray!!!!
704-437-1596 is Greg Murray's cell phone # (or his wifes?).
I thought that it was that Greg Murray phoney that I was talking to
today. What a scam artist!!!!
Jeff
> >
> Not "Mark Aldridge"
>
> But rather Bobbie Murray!!!!
Maybe he was using that phone, just like ":TJ Burk" used
usatr...@yahoo.com.
Or maybe it was just "a bit".
Jeff
On May 2, 11:09 pm, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
>
> This Guy that is posting this garbage claims to be a Minister of the
> Gospel. He has been banned on several websites for his hatred comments
> about people and other topics. His name is Michael Schmidt of Trumpet
> Of The Lord. he continues to bad mouth other artist when he finds out
> they're better at the trumpet than he is. He is the one that started
> all this false info on me . If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
> criminal record and I also checked on his credentials he says he has.
> None of the info he's posting about himself is true. He never
> graduated from Liberty university with a Masters Of Divinity Degree, I
> have a relative that works for LU and it was checked, he's never
> graduated from LU and if he's got a LU diploma he got it from a
> diploma mill. Michael has used and is using different names on TH as
> well as other sites, so when the public finds out what he really is,
> he changes names and signs up under a different User ID etc. This guy
> is suppose to be a minister, he might be , but not a Minister of the
> Gospel. This post was uncalled for by him as well as others he has
> posted about me. I have never had any contact or have I ever had
> communication with this unstable guy. I have consulted an attorney and
> have made copies of all correspondences he has made about me on all
> sites and I will taking a trip to Athens TN. where will I be taking
> legal action against this guy. I suggest to stay away from this guy
> and have no contact, he is very unstable and is a criminal.
Jazzycat1
> raise money for Hatti victims
>
>
> Here is the link to the Trumpet Herald posts where Greg Murray faked
> his own death, stole well respected gospel trumpeter David O'Neill''s
> music, and defrauded several people on eBay selling trumpets:
>
> http://www.emixo.co.uk/D00
>
> UGH...
So he's a student of yours? Sounds very much like things you have done
in the past douchebag.
Jazzycat1
Now tell us something about Mikey that we don't already know. :-)
Jeff
>
> So he's a student of yours? Sounds very much like things you have done
> in the past douchebag.
Plus, he can't spell "Haiti".
vettepassesyou
> On Apr 30, 3:44 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Christian" gospel trumpet player Greg Murray raised from the dead to
> > raise money for Hatti victims
>
>
> > Here is the link to the Trumpet Herald posts where Greg Murray faked
> > his own death, stole well respected gospel trumpeter David O'Neill''s
> > music, and defrauded several people on eBay selling trumpets:
>
> >http://www.emixo.co.uk/D00
>
> > UGH...
>
> Gospel.
Well, it looks like Greg Murray himself ?? (or whatever name he is
using today), raised from the dead , may have found his way to my
Kingdoms.
Take a look what well respected Christian trumpeter David O'Neill has
to say about the Rev. Greg Murray:
"
BTW/FWI... There is a trumpet player out there by the name of Greg
Murry. He has stolen my music, my CD's of me playing, and has re-
packaged them claiming it is him playing. They were taken from several
of my recordings that I released on a record lable 'Diadem Music'
titled David O'Neill 'Oracle' and 'Triumphant' as well as some of my
demos from my company 'Brass Trax'. I have taken his CD's into the
studio and have run wave files on them to compare them to my
recordings... Exact match, note for note, breath for breath. In fact,
there are a few internal sounds that happened on the original
recordings that can not be immitated because they were in the mix not
the playing, and only myself and the engineer know are there. He
CLAIMS he studied my playing and Phil Driscol's playing so close that
he sounds just like us. Sheesh... does he think we are that dumb???
Feel free to compare. My website www.davidoneill.com has all my
recordings on it. His website went down a few weeks ago but I will
post his data and links on a public google page next week. I saved
pages from his website before it went down. Pease keep an ear and an
eye on this guy. He is as fake as they get!!!
David O'Neill (copied from the TH untouched)
"
He has been banned on several websites for his hatred comments
> about people and other topics.
True I have been banned from a few blogs and forums, etc, it is not
true that I was banned for making hatred comments, more for not
following the forum rules
His name is Michael Schmidt of Trumpet
> Of The Lord.
True
he continues to bad mouth other artist when he finds out
> they're better at the trumpet than he is.
untrue
I am just having a little fun with these cats, I never did so to harm
anyone.
the "grudge" in reality has nothing to do with how i play or how they
play a trumpet.
Unlike you Greg, you will never find anyone who will ever accuse me on
not treating them fairly on a trumpet transaction.
As a matter of fact, I go out of the way on horn trades to treat
others the way that I want to be treated.
He is the one that started
> all this false info on me .
It is all well documented on the TH
Greg, I will take a lie detector test stating that you faked your own
death, if the lie detector test says that I am lying, I will pay for
the test, if it says that I am telling the truth, you will pay for the
test, ready to take me up on this?
If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
> criminal record
I doubt it, but I am looking into this.
NCIC is to check if someone has outstanding warrants. I have NO
outstanding warrants.
Everyone here already knows that I once pled nolo to disorderly
conduct. That was almost 10 years ago, get over it already Greg. That
dc is the only "criminal record" that you can find on me.
Calling me a criminal is like calling Rosanne Barr a singer.
So what, I pled nolo to basically nothing. I was stacked with
ridiculous unfounded and unproven charges. I paid a fine, and that was
it. It is not like I am some bank robber. Ugh...
and I also checked on his credentials he says he has.
> None of the info he's posting about himself is true. He never
> graduated from Liberty university with a Masters Of Divinity Degree,
Not true, I graduated from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary of
Liberty University on May 9th, 1998 with a Master of Divinity Degree.
As proof, Jerry Falwell, John Borek Jr. and Jerry Vines are the ones
who signed my degree. Anyone who comes to my house can see my degrees,
plus a picture of me graduating shaking Dr. Falwell's hand.
I hold three graduate degrees from Liberty, a M.A.R., M.R.E., and a
M.Div.
.
I
> have a relative that works for LU and it was checked, he's never
> graduated from LU
This is not true, to find out what a big liar Greg Murray is I
encourage every one of you to check for yourself, the registrars
contact into can be found at:
and if he's got a LU diploma he got it from a
> diploma mill.
Well lets see, Liberty University, based upon the # of students is now
THE LARGEST RELIGIOUS UNIVERSITY IN AMERICA. Liberty is fully
accredited. Liberty is far from a diploma mill. So tell us Greg, just
what are your ministry credentials, where did you graduate from
seminary?
Michael has used
True, 2 or 3 at the most, but not to be sock puppets, but because I
lost my TH passwords, everyone knows who I am on TH , and I use my
real name in my signature. While we are at it, who is Kelly Marsh and
Mark Aldridge , and Jody Murray. As these your socks Greg? When you
marched in the Blue Devils, why didn't you march under the name Greg
Murray?
and is using different names on TH as
> well as other sites
true, all in sock puppet fun, hey I even won an internet award for my
sock puppet silliness
I never used a sock to cheat someone out of money
, so when the public finds out what he really is,
> he changes names and signs up under a different User ID etc. This guy
> is suppose to be a minister, he might be , but not a Minister of the
> Gospel.
That is your opinion, care to compare our ministry credentials?
This post was uncalled for by him as well as others he has
> posted about me. I have never had any contact or have I ever had
> communication with this unstable guy.
That is also untrue.
How would I know that your wifes name is Bobbie Murray unless you
called me?
I tried to help this guy Greg on the TH, I tried to help him makes
things right with David O'Neill but he refused.
Then one time a while back when I called your cell, someone answered
claiming to be your son, he claimed to be Jody, and he claimed that
you had died. Greg I honestly tried to help you become restored on the
TH, but you made me look bad for trying to help you with this faking
of your death thing.
I have consulted an attorney and
> have made copies of all correspondences he has made about me on all
> sites and I will taking a trip to Athens TN.
Funny that Greg is threatening to sue me. Greg is you are foolish
enough to try , go ahead, and we will have you in front of a judge
where you will be held accountable for all of your past actions,
including libeling me in this post of yours.
where will I be taking
> legal action against this guy.
Go for it.
I suggest to stay away from this guy
> and have no contact, he is very unstable and is a criminal.
Again Greg, Calling me a criminal is like calling Rosanne Barr a
singer.
Dr. Michael Mikey Schmidt
vettepassesyou
Murray:
"
Just for the record, I have bought from Greg Murray and he did ship
the item. He also sent me a few of his CDs. He sounds great on the
CDs, but it kind of bugged me that a few of the songs sounded exactly
like some recordings I heard from David O'neill (www.brasstrax.com). I
had not heard the O'neill recordings in years, but the sound,
arrangement, etc. sounded exactly like what I remembered. I never took
the time to go listen to them again.
Following that, we agreed on a trade and I foolishly sent my horn to
him thinking he was sending his to me at the same time. He never
shipped his and mine never got there, USPS and Canada Post tracking
have no trace of it entering the US.
I listed it as missing\stolen on a few trumpet sites and posted here
on TH about the loss. A lady from one of the trumpet\cornet sites sent
me an email asking who the item went to in NC. Strangely enough, she
was aware of some peculiar trumpet related transactions involving Greg
Murray.
Time passes and Greg emails or calls me from time to time to talk
trumpets. Some times he offers to buy something I have, or checks to
see if I want to buy something he has. He allegedly is friends with
Phil Driscoll and once asked me if I wanted or knew anyone that wanted
to buy a 50th anniversary Schilke that Phil was trying to sell.
Shortly after that, it appears as if Phil or his son lists a 50th
anniversary Schilke on ebay.
November 2008 Greg offers a deal that is too good to resist so I bite
and send him the money. We agreed on a certain amount for three horns.
After weeks of excuses (mom had a stroke, mom died, tied up with out
of state probate, I'm on the road, got lots of last minute Christmas
gigs, touring with Phil Driscoll in Florida, etc.), he finally
provides tracking information and I eventually get the shipment. Guess
what, it is only one of the three horns I purchased. I call Greg, we
discuss it and he assures me the others will be sent seperately.
I am still waiting for the two horns he owes me. His wife, BJ, has
sent me emails assuring me that the horns will get shipped out.
I can imagine if certain pieces of what we hear are true, then Greg's
wife has a temendous challenge in front of her. Assuming she is going
to do her best to make things right, what a mess for her to be left
sorting it all out.
I am still optimistic that I will get what was paid for, but until I
do, I am very uncomfortable.
_________________
Larry Woods
LDWoods
"
vettepassesyou
Greg Murray claimed in his bio that he marched in the Blue Devils, I
think he claimed it was in 1980, yet, here is a list of the roster of
all former Blue Devils members named Greg, and guess whose name is not
on the list?
http://bluedevils.org/roster/search/search_results.php?name=greg+rackie&state=&search=search
I thought Greg might have once marched under the name Greg Racke, but
I might be wrong about that , with my disability I am not very good at
remembering names (or good at spelling)
Thanatos
<af06da6d-7200-435a...@o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
vettepassesyou <usatr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 3, 12:09�am, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
> > If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
> > criminal record
>
> I doubt it, but I am looking into this. NCIC is to check if
> someone has outstanding warrants. I have NO outstanding warrants.
That's absolutely wrong. I'm a federal cop and I use NCIC to pull
criminal histories on anyone I encounter. If you've been arrested and
charged, you're in NCIC. It's not just for warrants. A wide variety of
information is available:
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ncic.htm
The NCIC makes available a variety of records to be used for law
enforcement and security purposes. These records are made up of a
variety of forms of personal and property records.
Personal records:
- Convicted sex offenders
- Criminal conviction records
- Foreign fugitives
- Immigration violators
- Missing persons
- Parolees or people on supervised release
- Persons with active arrest warrants
- Persons with active protection orders
- Secret Service protective alerts
- Terrorist organizations and membership
- Unidentified human remains information
- Violent gang organizations and membership
Property records:
- Firearms records, including lost or missing firearms
- Stolen, embezzled or counterfeit securities
- Stolen property
- Stolen vehicle and boat parts
- Stolen vehicles and boats
vettepassesyou
Make that Greg Murray claims that he marched in the Blue Devils in
1982, yet his name does not appear to be on the 1982 Blue Devils
Roster.
Here is one of Greg Murray's old bios from an old web page of his:
"
Greg Murray Biography
Born in Waycross, Georgia on March 23, 1964, to Jesse and Eloise
Lambert Murray, Greg Murray surprised his family by picking up the
trumpet at an early age and teaching himself to play. Though the
majority of his family came from Folkston, GA, he attended Glynn
County Schools and was a 1982 graduate of Brunswick High School.
Mildred Eakes Lambert, Greg's maternal grandmother, was a Church of
God of Prophecy minister. Though his parents never favored church
attendance, Greg grew close to his grandparents and accompanied
Mildred and his grandfather, Samuel, to church during his formative
years. He credits them for bringing him up in a Christian environment.
Greg excelled in middle and high school band at Glynn County Schools,
becoming an accomplished trumpet player. In 1982, he was selected for
the Georgia Governors Honors Program in Music and, that same year, was
chosen as first trumpet for the World Champion Blue Devils Drum and
Bugle Corp located in Concord, California. Greg toured with the Corp
during the summer of 1982, allowing him the opportunity to study with
some of the best educators and trumpet players in the world.
Greg attended the University of Georgia and graduated with Honors from
Gupton-Jones College in Atlanta, Georgia with a degree in Mortuary
Science. While employed in the funeral profession, he continued to
become more and more proficient on the trumpet, flugelhorn and piccolo
trumpet, not yet sure in which direction his musical abilities would
lead. Little did he know how important his music and testimony would
become.
In the early 1990s, Greg received God's Call and was inspired to
create his own concert ministry entitled "Trumpet Praise Ministries."
His mission became spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ through song
to the lost all over the world. Currently, Greg is incorporating the
ancient Hebrew instrument, the Shofar, into his ministry's program as
well as praise and worship, beloved hymns and contemporary selections
that appeal to a varied audience.
Emphasizing that God gave him the talent to play musical instruments
and giving Him all the glory, Greg states, "In these uncertain times
of war and chaos, concerts are a way of channeling God's love and
compassion to a hurting world. Music is an international language, a
way of lifting up the name of Jesus Christ that reaches all ages,
races and creeds."
In 2007, Greg released two inspirational CDs. The first, called
Trumpet Praise includes both hymns and patriotic songs. The second,
titled, God Bless America, is a patriotic CD paying tribute to all
active military personnel and veterans.
Greg is currently in the studio working on a vocal and piano project
to be released in 2008.
"
vettepassesyou
credentials.
In March of 2008, "Rev." Greg Murray listed that his ministry
ordination came from from here:
http://www.universalministries.com/doctrine.html
(Note: Greg Murrays' name is no longer listed there)
In 1998 I received an M.Div. from the largest religious university in
the United States ( Liberty University )
Greg Murray , according to Greg Murray, became ordained here:
vettepassesyou
>
> vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 3, 12:09 am, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
> > > If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
> > > criminal record
>
> > I doubt it, but I am looking into this. NCIC is to check if
> > someone has outstanding warrants. I have NO outstanding warrants.
>
> That's absolutely wrong. I'm a federal cop and I use NCIC to pull
> criminal histories on anyone I encounter. If you've been arrested and
> charged, you're in NCIC. It's not just for warrants. A wide variety of
> information is available:
>
> http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ncic.htm
Ok, I stand corrected, I never have used NCIC before, that is not
something that most CO's do, and rarely did I ever work in booking,
etc.
Go ahead and run an NCIC on me, you can verfy that the nolo I
mentioned is all that I have ever been found to have done wrong. I was
wrong, I paid an inflated fine , that was it. No big deal.
Jeff
>
> That's absolutely wrong. I'm a federal cop and I use NCIC to pull
> criminal histories on anyone I encounter. If you've been arrested and
> charged, you're in NCIC. It's not just for warrants. A wide variety of
> information is available:
Well, you'll find Howdy in there, then...he's famous.
Jeff
vettepassesyou
> Does NCIC show bounced checks, too?
So what??? My ex wife (NOT ME) what is her name??I forgot?? once
wrote a bad check. I did not write that check. My name was drug into
that because that checking account was a joint account. My signature
was not on that check, but because it once showed up on my credit
report I paid off that debt, which really if I would have fought the
thing in court I could have been removed from that debt, but it was
much easier and cheaper to just pay off the owed amount.
Interesting is that Feed , ohiotpt in the TH claims that Greg Murray
is currently on probation. Here is what he said:
"
You might want to let his Probation Officer know what's going on.
There were a few cases pending...which kept getting delayed because he
was telling the court he was too SICK to show up (sick of Europe?).
Apparently he finally showed up, pled GUILTY and paid restitution and
is on probation. These were the cases of him selling cars which I
guess he didn't actually have title to..I believe that would be in
Yadkin County.
It looks like Mr. Murray isn't happy with mcahynuacrkd's posts in
other forums (see last posting):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/b1153461a3c71ea4
_________________
-Fred
"
vettepassesyou
> > raise money for Hatti victims
>
>
> > Here is the link to the Trumpet Herald posts where Greg Murray faked
> > his own death, stole well respected gospel trumpeter David O'Neill''s
> > music, and defrauded several people on eBay selling trumpets:
>
> >http://www.emixo.co.uk/D00
>
> > UGH...
>
> about people and other topics. His name is Michael Schmidt of Trumpet
> Of The Lord. he continues to bad mouth other artist when he finds out
> they're better at the trumpet than he is. He is the one that started
> all this false info on me . If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
> criminal record and I also checked on his credentials he says he has.
> None of the info he's posting about himself is true. He never
> graduated from Liberty university with a Masters Of Divinity Degree,
You can call here to verify that Greg Murray's claim that I did not
receive an M.Div. from Liberty is a LIE:
Phone: (434)592-5100
FAX: (434)582-2187
E-mail (No attachments, please) regi...@liberty.edu
Address:
Registrar's Office
Liberty University
1971 University Blvd
Lynchburg, VA 24502
Location: Campus North, Room 1569
Hours:
M-F 8:30 A.M. - 4:30 P.M.;
Closed for Convocation M, W, F 9:30-11:30 A.M.;
I would encourage you guys to contact Liberty to find out just who the
phony is.
I
> have a relative that works for LU and it was checked, he's never
> graduated from LU and if he's got a LU diploma he got it from a
> diploma mill. Michael has used and is using different names on TH as
> well as other sites, so when the public finds out what he really is,
> he changes names and signs up under a different User ID etc. This guy
> is suppose to be a minister, he might be , but not a Minister of the
> Gospel. This post was uncalled for by him as well as others he has
> posted about me. I have never had any contact or have I ever had
> communication with this unstable guy. I have consulted an attorney and
> have made copies of all correspondences he has made about me on all
> sites and I will taking a trip to Athens TN. where will I be taking
> legal action against this guy. I suggest to stay away from this guy
vettepassesyou
No, everyone KNOWS that I AM an ordained minister. Everyone here can
verify that I hold a REAL M.iv. from Liberty.
Everyone here can also go to the first TH thread that I posted here,
and there you can find other TH'ers talking about the ministry
credentials that you listed Greg, that Universal Ministries website
that I posted in this thread.
Gregit took me 13 years to earn my legit ministry credentials.
Anyone can go to that Universal Ministries website, and you can get
ordained there in thirteen minutes.
I
> have never heard of a minister that spends all his time harassing
> other trumpet players.
I am just having a little fun here Greg
All he's doing is hurting the cause of Christ.
Greg Murray you are one to talk about that.
Ugh...
> The more he post the more his credibility is lowered, which at this
> point can't get any lower.
That is your opinion Greg, but I reall think that that opinion might
better describe you.
So the best way to handle unstable people
> is to ignore. I have contacted all the area churches he has and is
> playing playing to give them a heads up on this guy
Yet the do not seem to care what you haveto say Greg, they havenot
even bothered to contact me about it.
As for Oasis, I will be playing a live trumpet solo ther next Sunday.
and how he's
> hurting the cause of Christ doing what he's doing. Email me and I will
> give you all contact info so you can also make a call about Michael.
Call away, you will be wasting your time, it is not difficult to find
the contacts to the churches that I play in.
> I really feel sorry for Patricia to have to put up with a husband that
> is that unstable, I hope she sleeps with protection near by!!
>
> This is my last post about this guy, I'm not going to play his games.
> I'll let the legal system handle him!-
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vettepassesyou
> On May 4, 12:20 am, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
But it wasn't now was it?
This
> guy is unstable and must be off his meds.
Blah blah blah...
Ugh...
> If he spent as much the time practicing as he does harassing trumpet
> players, he would be top 10 in the world!!lol as he states, far from
> the truth.
> Like I said, I have a relative that works at Liberty University and
> did a check, he has never graduated from Liberty University.
> I also have gotten e-mails from 16 different people said they are
> getting harassed by the same guy. His name again is Michael Schmidt,
> His website is Trumpet Of The Lord, he needs to change it to Trumpet
> of the Unstable!!
You are one to call me unstable Greg Murray, ha!
> if you have had any dealings with this guy Michael Schmidt please e-
> mail me, My attorney
Who is your attorney, Kelly Marsh?
Mark Aldridge?
needs all the info you may have. Michael Schmidt
> contact info is
> telephone: 423-507-9970 and its in the name of Patricia Schmidt
> address: 260 County Road 249
> Athens, TN 37303
That contact info is incorrect
> Like I said, I'll be making a trip to Athens TN in a few days.
> Also this will be my last post on any comments this unstable guy
> makes,
> If any of you that has been harassed by this guy and you would like a
> copy of the Nation Criminal Background check that was done on Michael
> Schmidt, I will be glad to e-mail it to you.
Like I said, all you will find there is the nolo to disorderly
conduct, and several no prosed , bs stacked charges that were
unproven, and I think there might be a few mistakes that were
corrected due to Gwinnett County clerical errors and stuff like that.
There IS NO SMOKING GUN. nolo to DC, that it is folks.
By the way Greg Murry, are you currently on probation in NC, because
someone named Fred in the TH (ohiotpt) alleges that you are.
> I have contacted DCI regarding this guy as well so they can get the
> word out to all Drum Corps!! He doesn't need to be around kids, in his
> condition!!-
More libel. DCI will not care that you do not like me. You calling DCI
is laughable.
Speaking of DCI, why were you allegedly not listed on the Blue Devils
1982 roster?
Just be aware Greg Murry, if you take me to civil court, I will do my
very best if I can to make sure that David O'Neill and or his attorney
will be there, along with others you might not want to see in front of
a judge talking about you.
Sis
> In article
> <af06da6d-7200-435a...@o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> vettepassesyou <usatr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 3, 12:09 am, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
>
>>> If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
>>> criminal record
>> I doubt it, but I am looking into this. NCIC is to check if
>> someone has outstanding warrants. I have NO outstanding warrants.
>
> That's absolutely wrong. I'm a federal cop and I use NCIC to pull
> criminal histories on anyone I encounter. If you've been arrested and
> charged, you're in NCIC. It's not just for warrants. A wide variety of
> information is available:
>
Jackie
Thanatos
<290149f3-3431-439e...@n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
vettepassesyou <usatr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 3, 11:58�pm, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <af06da6d-7200-435a-9c01-fbf8945a3...@o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On May 3, 12:09�am, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
> > > > If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
> > > > criminal record
> >
> > > I doubt it, but I am looking into this. NCIC is to check if
> > > someone has outstanding warrants. I have NO outstanding warrants.
> >
> > That's absolutely wrong. I'm a federal cop and I use NCIC to pull
> > criminal histories on anyone I encounter. If you've been arrested and
> > charged, you're in NCIC. It's not just for warrants. A wide variety of
> > information is available:
> >
> > http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ncic.htm
>
> Ok, I stand corrected, I never have used NCIC before
Unless you're a cop, you can't use NCIC.
vettepassesyou
>
>
>
>
>
> vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 3, 11:58 pm, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <af06da6d-7200-435a-9c01-fbf8945a3...@o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 3, 12:09 am, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
> > > > > If you'll run a NCIC on him, he has a
> > > > > criminal record
>
> > > > I doubt it, but I am looking into this. NCIC is to check if
> > > > someone has outstanding warrants. I have NO outstanding warrants.
>
> > > That's absolutely wrong. I'm a federal cop and I use NCIC to pull
> > > criminal histories on anyone I encounter. If you've been arrested and
> > > charged, you're in NCIC. It's not just for warrants. A wide variety of
> > > information is available:
>
> > >http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ncic.htm
>
> > Ok, I stand corrected, I never have used NCIC before
>
> Unless you're a cop, you can't use NCIC
Yet Greg Murray claimed that he ran a NCIC on me. I seriously doubt
that he is a cop, and Fred (ohiotpt) said on the TH that he believes
that Greg Murray is currently on probation. Greg could have easily
found out about the no lo to dc without using NCIC, that info is easy
enough to find on the internet, plus I certainly do not try to hide
it.
Please do an NCIC on Thomas Greg Murray or Thomas G Murray of NC and
let us know if he is currently on probation in NC.
vettepassesyou
> You said all your doing is having a little fun. When not just me but
> 16 others have contacted me that you have harassed them as well.
Greg has a history of using large numbers, Greg once claimed that he
owned 300 trumpets
I
> don't called that a little fun. All we as Christians can do is pray
> that God will someday change your heart. A Christian is know by the
> fruits they bare, and things you are doing are not Christian.
A persons salvation is not based upon good works Greg, and doing bad
things can not cause a person to lose their salvation, but you already
knew that Greg right?
Cause
> you may have ordination papers doesn't mean your a Christian!!
And because you have some ordination papers from Universal
Ministries , it does not mean that you are a Baptist with ordination
papers that are respected by legitimate ministers.
> Michael, you really need to seek God, your hurting the cause of
> Christ.
Pot, kettle, black
I'm not perfect by no means
Are you refering to how you sent people CD's with your name on it that
were recorded by David O'Neill, not you?
, but I've asked for forgiveness.
Have you called David O'Neill and ask for forgiveness for stealing his
music?
Did you call me and ask for forgiveness for faking your own death?
> All your doing is hurting your own ministry when you bad mouth others.
opinion
You are one to talk about doing things that hurt your own ministry
Greg Murray, arent you?
> The more you post the more it hurts your credibility and your
> ministry!
opinion
> like O said, I will pray that God will take the anger your are
> bestowing in your heart and turn it into something good!
I am not angry , but I bet David O'Neill might be.
>
> God Bless,- Hide quoted text -
Jeff
>
> I would encourage you guys to contact Liberty to find out just who the
> phony is.
I'm sure the folks at Liberty's administration offices really
appreciate you offering up their time to answer phone calls about your
credentials. Well done!
vettepassesyou
I'm sure that they do not mind defending one of their alumni against
libelous claims.
I encourage you to call them Jeff, and see for yourself just who is
telling the truth, Greg Murray or me.
vettepassesyou
Murray?
Jeff
>
> I encourage you to call them Jeff, and see for yourself just who is
> telling the truth, Greg Murray or me.
Yeah, unlike you, I don't really use the phone to harass people.
Troll Hunter
>
> I'm sure that they do not mind defending one of their alumni against
> libelous claims.
>
I wonder how they feel about one of their alumni making
an ass of himself on usenet in an attempt to bring
meaning to his bleak, pathetic life.
Troll Hunter
> On May 4, 11:26 am, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I HAD TO POST THIS!!!
>
> Well Michael, it looks like you're busted! I just got a fax, There was
> a guy that graduated from Liberty named Michael Schmidt 1996, but
> guess what, its not you! I have the full name and SS# of this person.
> They graduated in 1996. Based on the date of birth and SS# of the
> Michael that did graduate is much younger.
>
To be fair, Mikey looks 20 years old than he really is.
vettepassesyou
> On May 4, 11:26 am, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:> Better yet, who ae you going to trust, David O'Neill or Thomas Greg
> > Murray?
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYcGpqG_T_c
>
> I HAD TO POST THIS!!!
Greg Murray, reposting the lie that you said that I did not graduate
from Liberty in 1996 , is not going to et you any credibility here on
Usenet.
Get a clue Greg Murray, nobody believes your lies.
Even if Th'ers and RAMD and RMMT posters are not big fans of me, they
all know at this point that I did graduate from Liberty 3 times as
several of them did legit background checks on me long before you ever
showed up here.
>
> Well Michael, it looks like you're busted! I just got a fax, There was
> a guy that graduated from Liberty named Michael Schmidt 1996, but
> guess what, its not you! I have the full name and SS# of this person.
Actually Greg Murray, I graduated with TWO DIFFERENT MASTERS DEGREES
FROM LIBERTY UNIVERSITY (L.B.T.S.) IN 1996.
> They graduated in 1996. Based on the date of birth and SS# of the
> Michael that did graduate is much younger. The question is, Is your
> name really Michael Schmidt?
Call me Dr. Michael Mikey Schmidt L.T.D.
Could it be that YOU are taken on someone
> else's ID.
Well Greg Murray, or Kelly Marsh, ot Kyle Marsh, or Rev. Mark
Aldridge , Jody Murray, or Thomas G. Murray, wait, what did you say
that your name was again???
So what I have so far is your arrest record with a lot of
> former charges
so?
In America you are innocent until PROVEN guilty.
I was NOT proven guilty of any of thosecharges, except for the no lo
to dc, which in the criminal world is about like getting a no lo to
driving 5 miles an hr over the speed limit.
, a fax proving you did not graduate from Liberty.
Be sure to post it here and on the TH for everyone to see. (He will
come up with some reason why he won't do this, or he just will never
post it)
> I have a relative that works at Liberty and has for years.
Really, what is his or her real name?
This info
> is even on Liberty letterhead.
Post a picture of the "letter" on the TH.
> Michael, You're are so desperate for attention and I really feel sorry
> for you. You would really make a great case study at one of our fine
> institutions!!
I am sure like Don Ellis, someone will do a dissertation on me once I
am long gone.
So folks , who are you going to believe, Greg Murray or David
O.Neill ???
Mikey Trumpet - the sound you love
Jeff
>
> I am sure like Don Ellis, someone will do a dissertation on me once I
> am long gone.
Can we find out now?
Troll Hunter
> FROM LIBERTY UNIVERSITY (L.B.T.S.) IN 1996.
>
>
NOBODY FUCKING CARES!
vettepassesyou
> On 2010-05-04, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Actually Greg Murray, I graduated with TWO DIFFERENT MASTERS DEGREES
> > FROM LIBERTY UNIVERSITY (L.B.T.S.) IN 1996.
>
> NOBODY FUCKING CARES!
This matters.
Why?
This speaks to Greg Murray's lack of credibility.
Anyone who calls the Liberty University at the phone # I gave can
clearly see that this Greg Murray character is a liar.
By the way Greg Murray are you currently on probation in NC?
Why is your name not listed in the Blue Devils 1982 roster. Your self
written bio stated that you marched in the Blue Devils in 1982, yet
your name is not on the Blue Devils 1982 roster.
Troll Hunter
>> On 2010-05-04, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Actually Greg Murray, I graduated with TWO DIFFERENT MASTERS DEGREES
>> > FROM LIBERTY UNIVERSITY (L.B.T.S.) IN 1996.
>>
>> NOBODY FUCKING CARES!
>
> This matters.
>
No, it does not. If you weren't such an attention whore, none
of this would have ever come up on these noewsgroups.
vettepassesyou
After some investigation I have been unable to confirm that Thomas
Greg Murray is currently on probation, and I suspect that he actually
might not be on probation in NC.
Jazzycat1
Maybe you should call your Coun-try Law-Yer Freddie Fudgepacker to
straighten this all out.
I'm pretty sure this is the third or fourth time someone has take the
effort to prove that you are indeed a fake Rev Dookie.
Why would you possibly think anyone on RAMD would consider you legit?
PLEASE get back on your meds!
vettepassesyou
Greg Murray (Or Kelly or Kyle Marsh, etc.) stated ...
"He's been working with Janet Paschal, the Gaither Vocal Band and
Michael W. Smith, but primarily works as a solo artist."
Re:
This is another lie. After contacting this newspaper this week with
information about Greg, they have taken the story off of their
webpage.
According to Janet's booking agent, at the time of the press release
Greg Murray had never worked WITH Janet Paschal before. All that Greg
has ever done with Janet was to book Janet is to sing in this
Brunswick concert. This is the ONLY thing that Greg has ever done with
Janet Paschal, and ever will do with her according to Janet's and the
Gaithers road manager / booking agent who alleges that what that press
release said is untrue. Also, according to Janet's agent, who spoke to
me on the phone while on tour with the Gaithers, Greg Murray has never
worked with the Gaithers before, big surprise.
You can verify this by contacting her at: 919-215-8207.
I am still waiting to hear from MWS's agent.
_________________
Jazzycat1
...
vettepassesyou
> On May 4, 1:33 pm, Jazzycat1 <thomaserec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 4, 1:13 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Update:
>
> > > After some investigation I have been unable to confirm that Thomas
> > > Greg Murray is currently on probation, and I suspect that he actually
> > > might not be on probation in NC.
>
> > Maybe you should call your Coun-try Law-Yer Freddie Fudgepacker to
> > straighten this all out.
lives in NC.
>
> > I'm pretty sure this is the third or fourth time someone has take the
> > effort to prove that you are indeed a fake Rev Dookie.
a fake.
> > Why would you possibly think anyone on RAMD would consider you legit?
Because they are not stupid, and because of David O'Neill's
credibility. Even if they do not belive me, after reading what David
O'Neill said about Greg Murray thsi is really an open and shut case
against Greg Murray. Nobody would believe Greg Murray over David
O'Neill who is perhaps the finest Christian professional trumpet
player in the world.
> > PLEASE get back on your meds!
Ugh...
>
> ...
Greg Murray claims I am not from LU, yet here I am in this LU Spirit
of the Mountain Marching Band picture on the Liberty University
Marching Band Facebook page:
I am a little hard to see, but if you look closely, or with a
magnifying glass you can easily see that I am behind the 5th and 6th
color guard member from the right.
I will try to add my 1996 LU Graduation photo of me and Jerry to my FB
page as soon as I can.
vettepassesyou
your future as a professional Christian trumpet player.
Do the right thing and call me and I will try to help you get back on
to the right track. This is why I tried to help you in the first
place. But you will not listen to any of your peers, including David.
Picking a fight with me on Usenet is not helping your reputation any,
and in reality, it is just exposing all of your past mistakes. For
your sake, you need to come clean , be specific on the TH about your
apology to me, David, Larry and others, and admit , specifically, to
everything that you have done or said that was not right. I am willing
to be specific about what I have done wrong in the past, and I
admitted that I was wrong to have gotten so angry when someone in
power tried to date my wife, so for my no lo dc, I only blame myself.
I was wrong. As to any other charges, I was not found guilty and I was
not wrong in any way in those other cases, and the court sided with me
on all of them. No prosed.
I am not perfect, wow I even got angry once when someone tried to date
my wife and I got a no lo to disorderly conduct.
Even Mike Wallace of 60 minutes was once arrested for dc. Oh, and 15
years ago or so my ex wife once bounced a check. Look guys , I am so
bad, Ugh...
Greg you will not EVER find even one person who will claim that I did
them wrong on a horn trade. You will never find one person who will
say that
I might have a lot of fun messing with people on Usenet,but I never
created a false identity in order to commit fraud, I never stole
anyone's music.
Unlike myself, you are well enough to tour and keep a busy schedule.
You claim to be doing 150 dates a year, but on the net I can only see
where you did one gig in the last year, but hey, most likely you did
more than one?
I really tried to help you get restored as a Christian trumpet player.
You were so wrong to have put me out on a limb like you did in the
Trumpet Herald.
Jeff
>
> You were so wrong to have put me out on a limb like you did in the
> Trumpet Herald.
I believe you can take credit for that one yourself, Howdy.
Perhaps if you hadn't stuck your nose into someone else's business,
you wouldn't have come off looking like a complete imbecile.
vettepassesyou
> On May 4, 2:06 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You were so wrong to have put me out on a limb like you did in the
> > Trumpet Herald.
>
Re:
No Jeff, I honestly tried to help Greg, but then Greg faked his own
death , when I called Greg's cell phone someone named Jody Murray (not
sure if it was Greg) said that Greg had passed away.
This was untrue, and when I posted on the TH that Greg had died, Greg
and or someone who answered his personal cell phone set me up, left me
out on a limb, etc.
>
> Perhaps if you hadn't stuck your nose into someone Else's business,
> you wouldn't have come off looking like a complete imbecile.
Well, I really do regret trying to help Greg Murray,
I am not sure if at this point Greg Murray will ever listen to his
peers , and will come clean about everything that he did.
Thanatos
<e14ad141-e4a9-4a60...@k29g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
vettepassesyou <usatr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Even cops can't run people on NCIC without a valid law enforcement
reason to do so. And I don't.
Jazzycat1
He did have a major case of small cox as a child. He never got over
it.
Jeff
>
> No Jeff, I honestly tried to help Greg, but then Greg faked his own
> death , when I called Greg's cell phone someone named Jody Murray (not
> sure if it was Greg) said that Greg had passed away.
> This was untrue, and when I posted on the TH that Greg had died, Greg
> and or someone who answered his personal cell phone set me up, left me
> out on a limb, etc.
So, you, in not bothering to confirm the facts of the case, made an
ass of yourself.
> Well, I really do regret trying to help Greg Murray,
> I am not sure if at this point Greg Murray will ever listen to his
> peers , and will come clean about everything that he did.
Well, sometimes it takes someone on the Internet exposing the fact
that someone is a convicted criminal for them to come clean. So I
think I understand why you might feel that way. Having that kind of
thing aired about yourself. As a minister. Et cetera.
vettepassesyou
>
> - Show quoted text -
That is why I question Greg Murray's claim that he ran a NCIC on me.
He is a funeral embalmer, how could he get access to do that? At this
point I find it difficult to believe anything that this guy says.
vettepassesyou
> On May 4, 3:52 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > No Jeff, I honestly tried to help Greg, but then Greg faked his own
> > death , when I called Greg's cell phone someone named Jody Murray (not
> > sure if it was Greg) said that Greg had passed away.
> > This was untrue, and when I posted on the TH that Greg had died, Greg
> > and or someone who answered his personal cell phone set me up, left me
> > out on a limb, etc.
>
> So, you, in not bothering to confirm the facts of the case, made an
> ass of yourself.
I think Greg Murray /Kelly Marsh/Kyle Marsh/jody Murray/Thomas G.
Murray is the one who looks like the donkey for brains in all of this.
Nobody believes him, and everybody believes David O'Neill. With one
lie coming after another coming from Greg, such as Greg was not buried
in NC , etc., he and his camp led me astray, for a while. Shameful
what this cat did, faking his own death just to get the heat off of
him for a while for his pathetic actions.
>
> > Well, I really do regret trying to help Greg Murray,
> > I am not sure if at this point Greg Murray will ever listen to his
> > peers , and will come clean about everything that he did.
>
> Well, sometimes it takes someone on the Internet exposing the fact
> that someone is a convicted criminal for them to come clean. So I
> think I understand why you might feel that way. Having that kind of
> thing aired about yourself. As a minister. Et cetera.
Oh brother. I said it before, calling me a convicted criminal is like
calling Roseanne Barr a singer.
Ugh...
David O'Neill is the one who initiated the original thread on the TH
about how Greg Murray stole his music.
During this whole thing with Greg Murray, I honestly tried to help
him, and I tried to help those who he has cheated, but frankly it has
just been one lie after another from this Greg Murray guy. I am sick
of him. As a minister he disgusts me.
Mikey
vettepassesyou
Et cetera.
Re:
και έτερα
I am so impressed with your Latin Jeff. All kids should be made take
it.
______________________
I have not been well since Sat, and this thread is going nowhere.
Bottom line,
either you believe Greg Murray or David O'Neill.
For the informed, the choice is not that difficult to make.
Troll Hunter
>
> either you believe Greg Murray or David O'Neill.
>
> For the informed, the choice is not that difficult to make.
NOBODY FUCKING CARES!
Jeff
You got that right.
Jazzycat1
It's the smallcox... It keeps getting worse.
Troll Hunter
That's what Mikey's wife says.
vettepassesyou
Being very familiar with the funeral business, it is an embalmer's
obligation to report to his or her boss (the funeral home director)
any discrepancy including that which might be contrary to what a
medical examiner's certificate of death states. While they might not
have a direct link to access NCIC, the funeral director is supposed
to
report it to the legal authorities to get the ball rolling. And like
it or not Mikey, undertakers have a lot of clout with the cops and
can
dig up a lot of dirt about most anyone. Money talks, especially when
the bearer doing a first call at a private home needs help lugging a
stiff down a flight of stairs and slips the cop 20 or 30 bucks for
that service.
Re:
Robert you might be on to something, Greg Murray may have used his
police connections to look me up in the NCIC system. If he did, I am
unsure if I will be able to find out if he did.
It does not really matter, most of us already know what he found
there, perhaps info on the dc , the no prosed stuff, and maybe info
about when I was a corrections officer.
Troll Hunter
> police connections to look me up in the NCIC system. If he did, I am
> unsure if I will be able to find out if he did.
> It does not really matter, most of us already know what he found
> there, perhaps info on the dc , the no prosed stuff, and maybe info
> about when I was a corrections officer.
>
Doesn't matter. EVERYONE here knows you are a psychotic
asshole.
vettepassesyou
Murray:
vettepassesyou
> Here seems to be some very interesting tax information about Greg
> Murray:
>
This might be where Greg Murry lives
1036 PINERIDGE DR
Statesville???
Somewhere in Yadkin County NC ???
Siglow
Siglow
.
Troll Hunter
> Murray:
>
NOBODY FUCKING CARES!
vettepassesyou
> Could I be Living There?
You also own 300 trumpets, remember saying that Greg Murray?
Does anyone seriously believe anything that this KooK called Greg
Murray "Christian" trumpet player says?
>
> To the very nice and stable people posting on this site, see what I'm
> talking about with this unstable guy named Michael Schmidt, of Trumpet
> Of The Lord! Which I'm sure the ones that have delt with this idiot in
> the past know what I'm talking about.
Well lets see Greg, how many Christian trumpet players allege that I
put out a CD with their music on it, pretending that it is mine?
How many people out here claim that I did not treat you fairly when I
either bought a trumpet from you, or sold a trumpet to you?
He goes on and on.
Going on and on, speaking of going on and on , that reminds me of your
lies Greg Murray, they just keep going on and on
GREG MURRAY NOBODY SERIOUSLY BELIEVES YOUR LIE THAT I NEVER WENT TO
AND GRADUATED FROM LIBERTY
Your credibility was shot years ago on
> several internet sites!
Blah blah, Greg I really do not care what cockroaches think about me,
get it?
A good thing from this, is when he's talking
> about me at least his other targets gets a rest. Michael you have a
> history of harassing people
that is a matter of opinion, I call it typical pro democrat
DEMONIZATION,
demonize everyone who does not support the democrats destruction of
America.
and you try to downplay others to make
> yourself feel good.
More like you have that backwards.
The Psychology field has a name for it! You really
> need to go back on your meds!
I have not been prescribed psychiatric meds, I do take neurological
meds
> Minister? Right!
Again Greg, you received your ministerial credentials from Universal
Ministries, and I received an M.Div. from Liberty
Probably chaplain for the KKK.
Typical demonetization tactic - mentioned above
> If you spent as much time practicing trumpet as you do on the internet
> harassing others, you would be a better trumpet player!!
And if I stole other peoples music like you did Greg Murray , I bet
they would think that I was.
Ugh...
vettepassesyou
Murray claims that I , Dr. Michael Mikey Schmidt did not go to Liberty
University - and graduate from there:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?pid=1018252&id=581187373
I am in the second row of band members, 4th from the left, not to far
from Dr. Locy.
Weird is that back when Greg Murray thought that I went to BJU, he
claimed that he had a relative that worked at BJU.
vettepassesyou
> don't have to keep saying it!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Greg, the truth is that almost nobody on Usenet really knows me at
all. They might think that they do, and the pro homo , pro abort, pro
Obama's can say whatever they want to about me, unless you know me off
of Usenet, you really do not know me at all, or my trumpet playing,
etc.
Christian trumpet player Greg Murray you really need a 180 CHANGE, and
up until right now , 5/5/2010 , the Christian trumpet playing
community has seen that you have not changed, and they continue to
believe that you are a fraud, fake and phoney. You will hear my peers
say this about you, but they will not say that about me. Your pathetic
claim that I did not attend and graduate from Liberty University is
laughable. Even till this day most of the country remembers seeing me
there on TV. They remind me of this fact over and over again wherever
I go.
Greg Murray, unless you admit to your errors specifically here and in
details here and on the TH, your future and influence as a Christian
minister (and Christian professional trumpet player ) will not even
surpass that of the ministry ( + reputation ) of Jim Bakker or Jimmy
Swaggart.
vettepassesyou
> On May 5, 10:34 pm, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
>
> You're a disgrace to the ministry and the human race. I also have an
> entry on one of the sites you were on in the past stating that David
> Oneill was one of your students! When I saw that I about fell out my
> chair laughing!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
claimed that David O'Neill was one of my students.
Man you are nuts, folks this is another one of Greg Murry's lies, it
is just one lie after another coming from you Greg, post that link, I
never said that.
BUT, David O'Neill did once say that Greg Murray took one of his
CD's , and misrepresented his music as being Greg Murray's, music. We
all saw the link to this which was posted in the Trumpet Herald.
vettepassesyou
> You're a disgrace to the ministry and the human race. I also have an
> entry on one of the sites you were on in the past stating that David
> Oneill was one of your students! When I saw that I about fell out my
> chair laughing!!- -
Well, let us all review closely what Christian trumpet player David
O'Neill had to say about you, "christian" trumpeter Greg Murray:
"
BTW/FWI... There is a trumpet player out there by the name of Greg
Murry. He has stolen my music, my CD's of me playing, and has re-
packaged them claiming it is him playing. They were taken from several
of my recordings that I released on a record lable 'Diadem Music'
titled David O'Neill 'Oracle' and 'Triumphant' as well as some of my
demos from my company 'Brass Trax'. I have taken his CD's into the
studio and have run wave files on them to compare them to my
recordings... Exact match, note for note, breath for breath. In fact,
there are a few internal sounds that happened on the original
recordings that can not be immitated because they were in the mix not
the playing, and only myself and the engineer know are there. He
CLAIMS he studied my playing and Phil Driscol's playing so close that
he sounds just like us. Sheesh... does he think we are that dumb???
Feel free to compare. My website www.davidoneill.com has all my
recordings on it. His website went down a few weeks ago but I will
post his data and links on a public google page next week. I saved
pages from his website before it went down. Pease keep an ear and an
eye on this guy. He is as fake as they get!!!
David O'Neill
"
vettepassesyou
> On May 5, 10:58 pm, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 10:56 pm, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
>
> > > On May 5, 10:34 pm, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
>
> > > entry on one of the sites you were on in the past stating that David
> > > Oneill was one of your students! When I saw that I about fell out my
> > > chair laughing!!
>
>
> HI Jeff, I will get the info to you that you requested this week. I'm
> sending it to several other people that wanted it also. Its a lot of
> material so it will have to be weighed. I'm not going to respond
> anymore to this mentally Ill guy , thats what he wants us to do. We
> all know what he is and what he's not!
> I just hope your sitting down when you open package!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wow Jeff, it looks like Greg Murray is going to send you a stack of
pages that he printed from googling my name.
I hope that you enjoy your special package from Greg.
This is beginning to be like watching a bad rerun - movie, at this
point.
Ugh...
Troll Hunter
>
> Does anyone seriously believe anything that this KooK called Greg
> Murray "Christian" trumpet player says?
>
Does anyone seriously believe anything that this KooK called Mikey
Schmidt "Christian" trumpet player says?
Mikey and Greggy, there's this thing called email, it enables
two people to have a discussion without polluting a newsgroup
with shit nobody cares about. I suggest you check it out.
vettepassesyou
could've done was to have an abortion when she found out she was
pregnant with you...". Greg Murray , that about sums it all up as for
what kind of Christian trumpet player that you are.
Shame on you.
At this point any evangelical minister can clearly see what kind of
Christan trumpet player Greg Murray is all about.
Greg Murray I tried but I was unable to get you to confess and
specifically admit to your past deceptions and to see you truly repent
and change. I tried my very best, but I was unable to encourage you to
make a much needed change.
I do not believe that you are sorry for all of the things that you
did, and I have not seen a much needed transformation from you.It is
for this reason that the Trumpet of the Lord continues not to
recommend the ministry of christian trumpet player Greg Murray.
Jazzycat1
could've done was to have an abortion when she found out she was
pregnant with you...".
One of the better statements I've ever read on RAMD. Mikey, do you get
nervous around coat hangers?
vettepassesyou
Blue Devils. Read this from his self written bio and see if anything
looks suspicious:
"...Murray was also chosen as first trumpet for the World Champion
Blue Devils Drum and Bugle Corp in Concord, Calif.... "
Greg Murray's name is not on the 1982 Blue Devils roster on BD's
website.
I have two good friends who did march in the 82 Blue Devils, and I am
waiting to hear back from them, plus I should get a chance to ask
Wayne Downey about this issue this summer.
Troll Hunter
> specifically admit to your past deceptions and to see you truly repent
> and change. I tried my very best, but I was unable to encourage you to
> make a much needed change.
>
Mikey, why not be an example to him and confess your past deceptions?
> I do not believe that you are sorry for all of the things that you
> did, and I have not seen a much needed transformation from you.It is
> for this reason that the Trumpet of the Lord continues not to
> recommend the ministry of christian trumpet player Greg Murray.
>
As if there is any reason to recommend the ministry of Christian
trumpet player Mikey Schmidt.
vettepassesyou
http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73685&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
This page proves that it truly is Greg Murray who is posting here.
Be sure to read what Larry Woods and Progmac have to say about Greg
Murray.
vettepassesyou
> On May 6, 4:57 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:> Read this page:
>
> >http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73685&postdays=0&p...
>
> > This page proves that it truly is Greg Murray who is posting here.
>
>
> Now this criminal
Again, calling someone with just one no lo plea to disorderly conduct
a criminal is like calling Roseanne Barr a singer.
really has room to talk, His arrest record hits the
> floor when you open it up.
Until you see that there is not even one guilty conviction on my
record huh?
This will show the internet world the real
> Michael Schmidt.
They have already seen this Greg, dude, you are about two years behind
everyone else here, get it?
> I believe after the area schools and some drum corps get this, they
> will not let this criminal
Again, calling someone with just one no lo plea to disorderly conduct
a criminal is like calling Roseanne Barr a singer.
work with the kids.
> He's unstable and needs to be committed to an institution to live out
> his last days.
Ugh...
> As far as words, anybody can make comments all day long, I have you
> criminal record record and arrest record and its in black and White.
And if you do have it, everyone here has ALREADY SEEN IT, AND TEY KNOW
THAT YOUR CLAIMS ARE A BUNCH OF FLUFF
> Michael you need to stop trying to live as 2 different people.
Port, kettle, black Kyle, er Kelly Marsh , er Thomas G , or are you
Mark Aldridge today?
Will
> the real Michael Schmidt stand up. I have the records of the real
> Michael Schmidt and its not good.
Greg Murray tells one lie after another. I once pled no-lo to
disorderly conduct. That is it, everyone here already knows this, that
is the extent of my "criminal convictions". That is like being found
guilty of spitting on the sidewalk, or shooting someone the bird. Four
different judges have ruled that disorderly conduct IS NOT A CRIME,
and in GA my DC no-lo can never be used in a courtroom against me. I
also have a few other charges on my record that were all dropped , or
in legal terms, no prosed. These charges can not and will not be
brought up again. Guess what Greg Murray, the 10th circuit ruled that
disorderly conduct IS NOT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, so I have ZERO domestic
violence convictions on my record. In America you are innocent unless
proven guilty. I WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY OF ANYTHING , as a no lo in
Georgia is not a guilty conviction , but you already knew that, right
Greg? I was not proven guilty , and I have NEVER been found guilty of
any crime. In America , your arrest record is unimportant, as bogus
charges are often stacked up all over the place. in America, what
matters, after a case is over is whether the person was found guilty
of what they were charged with. In my case, it looks like I was not
guilty being as I walked out of the Gwinnett County Diversion Center
with NO BAIL, (not $1,000.00 , [I never paid any bail ] is not
accurate). So , just how was I able to walk out without having to pay
any bail money?
Looks like they did not have such a strong case on me after all did
they Greg? Looks like those charges against me were unfair, at least
that is what a judge must have thought when he looked at how I was set
up unfairly, and he let me out the door.
Big surprise to everyone here Greg Murray, the people here already
know all about this. This is an old, boring warn out topic that has
already been discussed over and over again.
So, below is all of the charges that can ever be brought up against me
in a court of law in the future:
NOTHING
Below is all of the guilty convictions that are on my record:
NOTHING
But if you , most likely improperly had an NCIC run on me Greg Murray,
you already knew that right?
Oh , and my ex wife once bounced a check.
Ugh...
vettepassesyou
> On May 6, 5:16 pm, ces...@yadtel.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 6, 4:57 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:> Read this page:
>
> > >http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73685&postdays=0&p...
>
>
>
> > floor when you open it up. This will show the internet world the real
> > Michael Schmidt.
> > I believe after the area schools and some drum corps get this, they
> > He's unstable and needs to be committed to an institution to live out
> > his last days.
> > criminal record record and arrest record and its in black and White.
> > the real Michael Schmidt stand up. I have the records of the real
> > Michael Schmidt and its not good.
>
> positive info about trumpet playing
Untrue Greg. The truth is I once tried to help you over at the TH, and
you made me look like a fool on the TH by
FAKING YOUR OWN DEATH.
, equipment and lessons etc.
Untrue again, I often talk about equipment, and at times about taking
lessons etc. .
Which
> he could really use some lessons!!
Ugh...
The last time he played with the
> community band, me and about 20 others walked out it was so bad and if
> you've heard his playing you know what I'm talking about.
LIES , lies lies
wow this Greg Murray lies.
It sounded
> like he had the valves in backwards.LOL
more lies from this chronic liar
> He really needs to use the TH forum to find someone to give him
> lessons and help with his playing instead of using it to harass
> others.
You meant to say to that I used the TH to expose your fraud
> This guy is really unstable. Lookout, he might be on a different site
> soon!!! under a different name and User ID.- Hide quoted text -
vettepassesyou
Murray in the Trumpet Herald. All of you know that Larry Woods is a
real person, with a good reputation, and that Larry Woods is not me.
All I have to say Greg Murray, is that if Larry Woods ever said this
about me I would know that nobody could ever fully recover from this
comment. This post was copied from the TH, and it is untouched:
_________________________________________________________________
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Sep 2004
Posts: 1503
Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:20 am Post subject:
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Just for the record, I have bought from Greg Murray and he did ship
the item. He also sent me a few of his CDs. He sounds great on the
CDs, but it kind of bugged me that a few of the songs sounded exactly
like some recordings I heard from David O'neill (www.brasstrax.com). I
had not heard the O'neill recordings in years, but the sound,
arrangement, etc. sounded exactly like what I remembered. I never took
the time to go listen to them again.
Following that, we agreed on a trade and I foolishly sent my horn to
him thinking he was sending his to me at the same time. He never
shipped his and mine never got there, USPS and Canada Post tracking
have no trace of it entering the US.
I listed it as missing\stolen on a few trumpet sites and posted here
on TH about the loss. A lady from one of the trumpet\cornet sites sent
me an email asking who the item went to in NC. Strangely enough, she
was aware of some peculiar trumpet related transactions involving Greg
Murray.
Time passes and Greg emails or calls me from time to time to talk
trumpets. Some times he offers to buy something I have, or checks to
see if I want to buy something he has. He allegedly is friends with
Phil Driscoll and once asked me if I wanted or knew anyone that wanted
to buy a 50th anniversary Schilke that Phil was trying to sell.
Shortly after that, it appears as if Phil or his son lists a 50th
anniversary Schilke on ebay.
November 2008 Greg offers a deal that is too good to resist so I bite
and send him the money. We agreed on a certain amount for three horns.
After weeks of excuses (mom had a stroke, mom died, tied up with out
of state probate, I'm on the road, got lots of last minute Christmas
gigs, touring with Phil Driscoll in Florida, etc.), he finally
provides tracking information and I eventually get the shipment. Guess
what, it is only one of the three horns I purchased. I call Greg, we
discuss it and he assures me the others will be sent seperately.
I am still waiting for the two horns he owes me. His wife, BJ, has
sent me emails assuring me that the horns will get shipped out.
I can imagine if certain pieces of what we hear are true, then Greg's
wife has a temendous challenge in front of her. Assuming she is going
to do her best to make things right, what a mess for her to be left
sorting it all out.
I am still optimistic that I will get what was paid for, but until I
do, I am very uncomfortable.
_________________
Larry Woods
LDWoods
vettepassesyou
> Below is what Larry Woods said about Christian trumpet player Greg
> Murray in the Trumpet Herald. All of you know that Larry Woods is a
> real person, with a good reputation, and that Larry Woods is not me.
> All I have to say Greg Murray, is that if Larry Woods ever said this
> about me I would know that nobody could ever fully recover from this
> comment. This post was copied from the TH, and it is untouched:
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> Heavyweight Member
>
> Joined: 26 Sep 2004
> Posts: 1503
> Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
> Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:20 am Post subject:
>
__________________________________________
Read what Progmac from the Trumpet Herald said about Greg Murray. This
post was taken from the Trumpet Herald , and is untouched:
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
I posted a WTB ad in the forums for a Schilke X4. I received an email
from someone named Greg Murray (user name "cessna") asking me to call
him and talk about it. I called, and he told me he had a gold-plated
Schilke X4 he would sell for $1250. I asked for pictures and he sent
me to his website...http://www.trumpetpraiseministries.com. I guess
the website was supposed to "vouch" for him. He also told me a story
about not wanting to use ebay because he was the victim of some fraud
on there and paypal only paid him $200.
I asked if he would use escrow.com for the transaction. He said he
wasn't good with computers and didn't want to.
Since I'm a skeptic, I dug up all of his old posts to help corroborate
his identity and stories. Oddly, the story he told me was a verbatim
copy of the first post in this thread:
http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71839&highlight=.
So something seemed fishy, but I thought maybe it was nothing. So I
told him I would go ahead with the deal, he just needed to send me
pictures. He told me the item was boxed up and ready to go, but I said
I wouldn't pay without pictures.
He sent me a small, 26kb photo that looked like it was taken in a
studio. He called and asked if I received the photo. I said yes. I
said it looked like the trumpet was in a bag or something. He told me
that he put the trumpet in a bag so as not to get fingerprints on it.
He made various comments about not being good with computers, that was
why the picture was so small.
Still skeptical, I did a google search of the image name. Lo and
behold, I find this page: http://thompsonmusic.com/store/product3194.html.
He sent me a copy of a picture of a gold plated schilke he found
online! He cropped out the business card shown in the picture above.
When I found out he lied to me (he told me he removed the instrument
from the packaging and took a photo), I immediately canceled the
transaction. I said we could use escrow.com or he could ship the item
first. That was three or four days ago and I haven't heard back.
I also did a "whois" search on the domain -
trumpetpraiseministries.com. I found out that the domain was
registered "by proxy" meaning that the individual registering the
domain did not want to provide any contact info for whatever reason.
The whole situation smells so fishy to me, I think it almost has to be
a scam. It is somewhat convoluted though, because "trumpet praise
ministries" seems to be a legitimate operation performing in the north
carolina area.
I am not accusing anyone of anything, but I think it is important for
TH members to be aware of this guy and make sure not to complete any
transaction with him unless he ships first or you use some type of
escrow.
At the very least, I know for a fact that this "seller" lied to me, so
be aware.
Jazzycat1
Jazzycat1
> about! I have his arrest record! Hide Kids, Mickey's coming!!- Hide quoted text -
vettepassesyou
> On May 6, 7:22 pm, vettepassesyou <usatrum...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> about! I have his arrest record! Hide Kids, Mickey's coming!!- Hide quoted text -
Greg:
1. Everyone here has already discussed this topic over and over again,
it is old news. You have gone from amazing me with your multiple lies,
to boring me to death. Get a clue, do some Usenet searches or
something,
2. It does not matter because I WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY of those charges.
This is America not Haiti or Mexico
here in America
YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL YOU ARE PROVEN GUILTY
I was NOT found guilty.
I was not proven guilty.
I am not guilty.
I was innocent of those charges.
Got it?
3. Now leave me alone so I can watch the Atlanta Hawks.