WGI, 1998
"from the standpoint of musical effectiveness, bells needs to sculpture the
material more here." -Len Carey
Musicians or sculptors....hummmmm..Doesn't this guy sell bingo supplies for a
living??
Since there was very little time between prelims and finals to
actually do that,.they pretty much said screw it.
"Man your solist just hit a note...whew!...that was like a Jose Canseco shot
into the upper deck!"
"There is simply nothing wrong, but I remain unconvinced".
Rob
Blue Devils 81-85
Sumter98 <sumt...@aol.com> wrote in article
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I believe the judge was Lloyd Pissola(sp) doing GE Brass. It was at the
1982 Louisville Ky show about the second week of August that had us (BD)
and Garfield and other corps. Garfield had just recently beaten PR and
Madison for the first.
This was during the Blue Devils opener of TO:
"Well, I gave Garfield such a high score, and didn't allow room for you
guys, I am giving you a 10 in GE Brass, I'll tape the show for you".
That was it.
Rob
Secondly... Len Carey... in addition to being one of the really great guys
in drum corps - is one of the most accomplished professional musicians
involved in drum corps... he's played with more symphony orchestras than
you've ever seen... you picked the wrong judge to slam on here -
especially considering the number of bad drum judges around...
His comment - taken out of context - seems pretty funny, but somehow I
suspect that were I to listen to the tape... it would make sense...
Tom Peashey... (see Lenny... I still remember after all these years)
Sumter98 wrote in message <19990319111906...@ng118.aol.com>...
"Ok snareline... ease off the flam accents there... a little overbearing."
They were flam taps.
My last year in high school at BOA...
"Mellos, be sure to <crunch, smack, crash> ouwfurrrrrfffffffaghh!!! <ahem>...
bassline is really hauling, especially uh, top...man..."
I was top. Heh, backed over him pretty quick. I think second hit him on the
turnaround, then in the next song he was too close to me during a unison and my
mallet knocked the hell out of him...
Jason
Let me just assume that
A.... "influx of color" meant the sudden addition of some large amount of
color (probably silks)...
AND
B... It didn't work....
Sounds pretty succinct to me. Perhaps if you tell me who and when - I might
even remember... however, the brain is the first thing to go with us old
farts...
smiling politely
Tom Peashey
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Frank
Sumter98 wrote:
> 1991-CBC, Short Ride in a Fast Machine
> "I think you guys can take that temple block out now"
> Hey Genius...that's the way it's written!!!
>
> WGI, 1998
> "from the standpoint of musical effectiveness, bells needs to sculpture the
> material more here." -Len Carey
>
> Musicians or sculptors....hummmmm..Doesn't this guy sell bingo supplies for a
> living??
Judges often mispeak during attempting to follow the program and make commentary.
Obviously the term sculpture, meant sculpt, and meant to try to use dynamics and
be more expressive.
Maybe you might want to put up your credentials against Len Carey. The little I
know is that Len was the prinicipal percussionist for the Syracuse Symphony and
instructed the Syracuse Brigadiers as well as numerous other corps in upstate NY.
He performed with the USMA band at West Point for many years and judged numerous
DCI Finals. He is one of the more knowledgeable rudimental drummers I've met and
has a special interest in Basel/Swiss drumming.
Last time I went to California, Len invited a few of us over to the house. He got
out his Swiss drum and performed some of the most complex rudiments known to man.
I think he qualified to judge.
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and cool can be hot
and each can be both.
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jazz is jazz.
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Gary Cuzzocrea wrote:
I've said that and worse.
That's a really neat effect. I've never heard anyone yodel into a mellophone.
"Good evening Crossmen, I'm Jeff Mitchell and you're not..."
-Jeff Mitchell
gc
I'm hurt... you left off the earlier shot at me... I'm tickled pink anyone
remembered anything I said. but - having worked with Len in Syracuse - I
sure agree that they picked the wrong judge to pick on there.
Tom Peashey
Jeff wrote in message <36F2E170...@prodigy.net>...
>>>Its spelled Pesola . I'll have to ask him about that one when I see him.
JCSeymour
Bruce, I understand it. Evidently, you brought out some silks that did
not give the effect that the judge felt that moment needed visually.
See, boys, its simple.
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Gary Cuzzocrea wrote:
>
>
> "Good evening Crossmen, I'm Jeff Mitchell and you're not..."
> -Jeff Mitchell
>
Now this one needs some explaining. For some reason well back in the annals of
drum corps, I did the Chevy Chase intro to the Crossmen. If my memory is
correct, it during the mid-to-late 80's, when they were on a tough tour. The
kind were busses breakdown and everyone is depressed, so I thought it would
lighten the mood. It went over well, so it became a annal tradition to the
Bones.
Tom & Karen Peashey wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> I'm hurt... you left off the earlier shot at me...
Sorry, it hadn't hit my server yet. I woulda moidered da bum.
> I'm tickled pink anyone remembered anything I said.
And I hoping they forget my stuff. I remember screaming during 97 Madison's
company front, "If anyone's not reacting to this, call 911."
> but - having worked with Len in Syracuse - I sure agree that they picked the
> wrong judge to pick on there.
>
Len is one of the best and it is an honor to call him my friend. In 1979, he
judged with me at all my DCE and DCI shows. I only had 5 or so. He really helped
me get started and understand how to handle difficult situations.
"and now from the land of the dut duts" (talking about the snare line)
Same show, '82 Louisville, KY...
GE Visual Judge had 2 memorable comments:
"...did anyone tell you guys what your doing's impossible???!!!"
"...I thought I cried at the end of ET!!!"
George Lea
Garfield Cadets (1981-1982)
A judge said this on the tape after I hit the wrong notes on my one note solo
and he was standing right infront of me!
Rob
BD 81-85
GEORGE 82 <geor...@aol.com> wrote in article
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"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
"Hi Ray"
Ray wasn't too amused.
Rob
Sumter98 <sumt...@aol.com> wrote in article
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I heard portions of that tape on Roger Carter's web page.......Charlie had a
ton of hilarious things to say,....and SCREAM!
It's Pesola!!!>>"Well, I gave Garfield such a high score, and didn't allow room
for you
>>guys, I am giving you a 10 in GE Brass, I'll tape the show for you".
And isn't it nice to have a judge who is honest and really has his shit
together!!!!.......Lloyd was one of the finest "no bullshit" judges out there
and really CARED about the drum and bugle corps activity (still
does).......drum corps lost a good man when he retired from the activity!!!!
Frank
"Ooooooooo, you gotta FINE looking drum major...may I suggest a different color
undergarment....perhaps RED???"
Uhhhhhhh....hmmmmmm....OK!! (In the Beavis voice)
I swear to you something like that was said...
Ryan H. Turner
MARCHING BAND, DRUM & BUGLE CORPS, WINTER GUARD GUY!!
Sunny, southern California....OH YEAH...former VK DM 1986 and 1987
Show Design Consultant/Visual Consultant
and a 911 Fire Dept Communications Dispatcher to boot!!! Sure am busy!!!
He judged Music G.E. And we weren't offended by that giggling... :-)
"BITCH!!!!!! What that!!!"
Of course, he meant PITCH!! But it REALLY sounded like BITCH!! We listened to
that tape a thousand times, and I still have it to this day...
What a band geek I am...
Frank
Every-Body winterguard, judge was very condescending, audience was roaring,
judge is screaming "Your show wasn't funny or abstract, I mean there a sense of
timing to comedy, I JUST DON"T GET IT. OK, your message is clear, but I have
to get it a number now!" <click> tape turns off.
odd
-kurt
I was in that booth with Shirlee & Lloyd. Doing "Visual Analysis" seldom gave a
judge a chance to "react" (too much analysis...). But - that night the Zingale
thing finally clicked...
Then - BD came on with THAT horn line. Wished I was on Brass that night....
- Dan Smith
Isn't it GREAT dude! Very rarely do we get the opportunity to slam a judge
(especially me on 2nd bass). I hit a drum judge in 97 with my mallet going
back field (not TOO hard though ;-} ) He was checkin out the cymbals
while looking backfield, and BOOM! All the sudden the basses were finished
counting our rests. It was sweet. Maybe i'll get the chance again in the
summer of 00, and 01 when i age out.
Tonyking.
Blue Knights 97,98
Bass 2.
flame away...
Tom Peashey
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Tom & Karen Peashey wrote:
> All good reasons to pull them off the field so they can do their job...
> flame away...
> Tom Peashey
> >Isn't it GREAT dude! Very rarely do we get the opportunity to slam a judge
> >(especially me on 2nd bass). I hit a drum judge in 97 with my mallet going
> >back field (not TOO hard though ;-} ) He was checkin out the cymbals
> >while looking backfield, and BOOM! All the sudden the basses were
I'm left wondering two things:
1. Is it possible for these kids to express themselves without
profanity? and..
2. Has the "activity" come to the point where players
intentionally go after judges?
Welcome to DCI!!
regards,
Bruce
LI Sunrisers, 65-68,
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>2. Has the "activity" come to the point where players
>intentionally go after judges?
>
I don't think anybody wants to hit the judges, but if they are in the way there
is no choice
Many times I appreciated a quick "look out!"... besides how well can you
perform if you just bumped into somebody... on the field etiquette was
quite common when I worked and always appreciated... Besides... I was too
damned big a moving target out there... I rarely lost in any collision...
Thankfully, as a visual judge - they (collisions) were most rare... The
ones I always "feel" for are the drum guys... That's an impossible
situation...
Here's one experienced vote for pulling the drum guy off the field or at
least to the sidelines where most brass guys work... They can't possibly do
a good job under those ridiculous situations...
For the most part... the visual guys can stay out of trouble... and harm's
way... (especially since "reading" drills is supposed to be their
expertise...)
Tom Peashey
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Bring them back to the field so they can proper judge corps.
Tom & Karen Peashey wrote:
> All good reasons to pull them off the field so they can do their job...
>
> flame away...
>
> Tom Peashey
>
> MindSpring User wrote in message <7d1kd6$hr$1...@samsara0.mindspring.com>...
> >
> >Jason Lowe wrote in message <36f2aed4...@news.atl.bellsouth.net>...
> >>
> >>
> >>My last year in high school at BOA...
> >>
> >>"Mellos, be sure to <crunch, smack, crash> ouwfurrrrrfffffffaghh!!!
> ><ahem>...
> >>bassline is really hauling, especially uh, top...man..."
> >>
> >>I was top. Heh, backed over him pretty quick. I think second hit him on
> the
> >>turnaround, then in the next song he was too close to me during a unison
> >and my
> >>mallet knocked the hell out of him...
> >>
> >>Jason
> >
> >Isn't it GREAT dude! Very rarely do we get the opportunity to slam a judge
> >(especially me on 2nd bass). I hit a drum judge in 97 with my mallet going
> >back field (not TOO hard though ;-} ) He was checkin out the cymbals
> >while looking backfield, and BOOM! All the sudden the basses were
> finished
> >counting our rests. It was sweet. Maybe i'll get the chance again in the
> >summer of 00, and 01 when i age out.
> >
> >Tonyking.
> >Blue Knights 97,98
> >Bass 2.
> >
> >
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He must say that alot, because these quotes are directed towards Phantom
Regiment quads. I have a very fond memory from that show of us playing
a lick piss clean, and he just pointed at us and yelled "YES!" gotta
love Charlie!
-K
jeff
> That one must have been before my time---do you remember Len Picarski
> in 1973 when they were first experimenting with tapes saying "sa sa no
> kick?" I don't think any of us ever figured out what that was about!
>
Early tape story:
I was teaching a Garden State corps that went up to the World Open in the
70's. We got our GE drum tape and played it. The judge had started it the
minute we began our entry cadence and left it running the whole time through
the march-on and the intros. The show started, and not one word. Finished the
opener, and still not a word; we could hear the corps very nicely on the
tape, though. Eventually we heard one coment like "nice solo" after the drum
solo, and that was about it on the entire tape.
We got our sheets, and the GE drum sheet said" "see tape".
Well, we could see the tape, but we sure didn't hear much. :-)
Mike
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Our Caption head at Glassmen relayed to us a story about a judge that made an
interesting comment on a tape while he was teching a contra section
elsewhere. The Contras absolutely nailed some sort of lick and all you heard
on the tape was the Contras nailing the section and the judge screaming "I
WANNA PLAY CONTRA BASS IN THIS DRUM CORPS!!!!!". He says he plays it on his
days when he is feeling bad...hehehehe
Christopher M. Ortleib
Glassmen Baritone Line 98-99?
"Biggest Baritone Line in DCI"
Doreen Sandor Girardi
Scene: The end of the Tag to House of The Rising Sun(Tag Revision 1 I believe!)
I along with another bari player and a pit member, crashing cymbals,
crowd a judge in betweem us and a marimba, and force him to squat down,
while being blown away, with raw excitement and power. The Quote:
"Man, I sure picked the Wrong Place at the wrong time didnt I?" on the
judges Tape. That was some funny stuff to hear on the bus! =)
Brian Foley
Magic Baritone BUGLE - Forever
Great start. Trouble in measure two.
Sam
No, no - Let me drop everything I'm doing and help you with your
problem.
" I bet you fat bitches couldn't even make a decent sandwich"
I once yelled to Bob Zazzara (who is hard of hearing in one ear) to turn his
good ear toward me so he could hear better... He just smiled...
Tom Peashey
TAllen77 wrote in message <19990326172151...@ng62.aol.com>...
>All good reasons to pull them off the field so they can do their job...
>
>flame away...
>
>Tom Peashey
Tom - *sarcasm on*
No, you can't do that....It wouldn't be a snare line contest anymore....
*sarcasm off*
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Jim Wunderlich wrote in message ...
clarinet sound not in tune with the rest of corps.
Taken from Drum Corps America July 1971
JCSeymour
You see doc I've always had this thing for having someone blow a horn
directly into the back of my head.
Whatttt I can't see what you're saying!!!!!!
Corky Fabrizio said on-tape, "Your tympanist looks like he's beating eggs!"
During the after-show critique, I became the butt of the entire band.
Not to be out-done I found and old-style crank egg-beater and hung ot from
the front of the drum. It produced plenty of smile as it swung from
side-to-side.
Gregg Wynn
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Too bad, the judge didn't notice that the band WAS NOT PLAYING, only
marching........
clarinet sound not in tune with the rest of corps.
Whenever I show that tape to the uninitiated, it invokes chortles:) god luv
him!
Cheers, thanks a lot.
kids do not go out of their way to hit judges. doing so would mess up the
drill and no kid would sacrifice that just to hit a judge. when i see it
happen, then i'll believe that. the simple fact is that judges just happen to
be there. the vast majority of kids do now want to hit judges, and in most
lines they will yell at the judge to move before they get hit.
In article <tWbJ2.1119$1R1....@newsr1.twcny.rr.com>,
"Tom & Karen Peashey" <tpea...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> Often with today's fast moving, complex drills... you are correct...
> (usually caused by the performer backing up blindly) but I would hope that
> it is NOT an adversarial relationship and that - given the opportunity to do
> so - a warning would be issued...
>
> Many times I appreciated a quick "look out!"... besides how well can you
> perform if you just bumped into somebody... on the field etiquette was
> quite common when I worked and always appreciated... Besides... I was too
> damned big a moving target out there... I rarely lost in any collision...
> Thankfully, as a visual judge - they (collisions) were most rare... The
> ones I always "feel" for are the drum guys... That's an impossible
> situation...
>
> Here's one experienced vote for pulling the drum guy off the field or at
> least to the sidelines where most brass guys work... They can't possibly do
> a good job under those ridiculous situations...
>
> For the most part... the visual guys can stay out of trouble... and harm's
> way... (especially since "reading" drills is supposed to be their
> expertise...)
>
> Tom Peashey
> JSUdrummer wrote in message <19990321141021...@ng127.aol.com>...
> >>were
> >>
> >>I'm left wondering two things:
> >>1. Is it possible for these kids to express themselves without
> >>profanity? and..
> >
> >
> >>2. Has the "activity" come to the point where players
> >>intentionally go after judges?
> >>
> >I don't think anybody wants to hit the judges, but if they are in the way
> there
> >is no choice
that happened at dcm this year. high perc award...
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> kids do not go out of their way to hit judges. doing so would mess up the
> drill and no kid would sacrifice that just to hit a judge. when i see it
> happen, then i'll believe that. the simple fact is that judges just
happen to
> be there. the vast majority of kids do now want to hit judges, and in
most
> lines they will yell at the judge to move before they get hit.
Not true :) In my days of marching, great pride was taken by SOME members
in colliding with a field judge.... not that I would ever intentionally
move out of a line for that purpose.
Ron Fussell
Middle School Instrumental Music Teacher, Merrimack, NH
Spartans, 1987-1993
Star of Indiana, 1994
East Coast Jazz Staff, 1997
LOW BRASS: WOW!!!!
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Volunteer 1997-present