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K23MJ

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Sep 25, 2001, 10:39:38 PM9/25/01
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This is all in good fun, and thanks to Matthew Dodd and Geoff Jones for filling
a void. Mandarins did win 4 in a row from 96-99 and so far, they are the only
corps that has won 4 in a row. I added them below. I should have started this
under a new thread...my bad. If anyone else has any other info to fill some
voids, feel free to post, and this includes pre dci and pre dca.

DCI
Cavaliers 61, 62, 63 (before DCI)
Cadets 83, 84, 85
Mandarins 96, 97, 98, 99

DCA
Caballeros 72, 73, 74
Bushwackers 88, 89, 90
Brigadiers 99, 2000, 2001

Thanks,
Mike


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This is just for fun. Here's a listing of corps that have won three in a row
and are currently still competing today. Under DCI and DCA, no one has won 4
in a row. I might have missed one or two corps before DCI and DCA started, I'm
not too sure about that one.

DCI
Cavaliers 61, 62, 63 (before DCI)
Cadets 83, 84, 85

DCA
Caballeros 72, 73, 74
Bushwackers 88, 89, 90
Brigadiers 99, 2000, 2001

It will be interesting to see if the Cavies can win three in a row this coming
year and even though I'm a Brigadier, it will be interesting if the Brigs can
win 4 in a row.

I'm not being arrogant or anything, I just like to look at history and facts
and data.

Mike
>

Andrew H. Grilk

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Oct 12, 2001, 2:44:12 PM10/12/01
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Hope I can give some more info. Bushwackers tied Sunrisers in 1990 so you
should indicate (tie) for 1990 on Bush, where Cabs and Brigs were outright
3peats....as for pre-dca here is what I have for American Legion Nationals:

Senior:
Boys of '76 - 1922, 1923, 1924, 1925 (4peat)
Skokie Indians - 1955, 1956, 1957 (3peat)
Caballeros - 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964 (7peat) WOW!
Yankee Rebels - 1969, 1970, 1971 (3peat)
Caballeros - 1974, 1975, 1976 (3peat)
Statesmen - 1997, 1998, 1999 (3peat)

Junior:
Holy Name Cadets - 1948, 1949, 1950 (3peat)
Blessed Sacrament - 1954, 1955, 1956 (3peat)
Garfield Cadets - 1960, 1961 1962 (3peat)

As for the National Dream Contest, I only have for the Cabs right now, cause
I can't find the website for the contest. I thought it was www.dream50.com
but that now points to Jersey Surf?

National Dream Contest:
Caballeros - 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965 (6peat)
Caballeros - 1976, 1977, 1978 (3peat)

Thats what I got, fill em in! :o)

--
Andrew H. Grilk
Hawthorne Caballeros
Lead Baritone
1988-Present.


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Scott MacIntyre

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Oct 12, 2001, 4:10:35 PM10/12/01
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Just a clarification....Bush and Sun tied in 88, not 90...
They tied again in 89 but Bush was awarded the tie-breaker at the caption
level....
Bush then won outright in 90....

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Scott MacIntyre
'99 - ? Golden Eagles Parade and DCA Mini Corps
'90-'98 Sunrisers
'82-89 Long Island Grenadiers
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Chris Mignemi

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Oct 12, 2001, 8:20:34 PM10/12/01
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yep Scott, I was just thinking the same thing...Sun got bit in the ass by their
own rule proposal...
Chris Mignemi
Sunrisers 1994 - 1999
Hawthorne Caballeros 2000 - present

KnA ARLISS

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Oct 12, 2001, 8:46:40 PM10/12/01
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>> Statesmen - 1997, 1998, 1999 (3peat)

Statesmen and Brigs tied in '97, Statesmen won in '98, Brigs 99-01.
Sorry, no 3-peat for Empire.

MMingle16

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Oct 12, 2001, 8:50:51 PM10/12/01
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May be just me...but I'm pretty sure the post you are referring to (Empire
3-peat) was in regards to AMERICAN LEGION championships not DCA
championships...

Matt

Tom & Karen Peashey

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Oct 12, 2001, 9:16:10 PM10/12/01
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now that is a night I remember well... and I was the chief judge who got to
help sort out the tie break... I was helping with the retreat when they
sent word out that they needed me in the tab room fast... (they only sent
for me because I had published the rule book that year and had become
intimately familiar with such esoteric things as the complicated tie break
rule)

When I walked into that room, the looks on their faces was amazement...
remember in DCA, all corps have a representative check their sheets before
retreat and every corps was locked in there watching this whole thing
transpire. They can only leave as the scores are about to be announced.

No one could believe that caption after caption was still tied...

The last and final tie break... was color guard... (a score which didn't
even get counted in to the final score)

My dear friend, the late George Cowburn from Horseheads, NY was on guard...
he had Bush up...

and for the record.... so there is no confusion.... The tie break system
clearly said that the only way a tie could exist is if all tie breakers
remain tied... Had George had the guards tied... the show would have
remained tied... Co-Champions...

Just so there was no historical confusion and/or controversy 15 years later,
those who wrote the rule (was it sun? really? I don't remember, but that
would be ironic.) made it clear that "the chief judge is to add (.1) one
tenth to the score of the corps that wins the tie break..." So it is
actually incorrect to say that there was a tie that year... but rather "The
tie-break system was required" to select the winner...

How's that for nit picking?

But anyway... that is now an **** asterisk in drum corps history... Wonder
if that is in the upcoming Drum Corps History Book that DCW is publishing
soon?

Tom Peashey


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FPonzo2255

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Oct 12, 2001, 11:13:47 PM10/12/01
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>yep Scott, I was just thinking the same thing...Sun got bit in the ass by
>their
>own rule proposal...

Yep...and we got bit hard too!!! If I remember correctly, we (Sun) won prelims
that year by about 8 tenths.......BUT.....to both Bush's and Sun's credit, we
were both very good that year, and it could have gone either way. Overall, it
was a great year for both corps. It WOULD have been a 3 peat for Sun if it
wasn't for the "tie break rule"!

Frank Ponzo

Tom & Karen Peashey

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Oct 13, 2001, 12:03:51 AM10/13/01
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95.9 to 94.9 to be exact Mr. Frank


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Sambuca312

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Oct 13, 2001, 7:12:21 AM10/13/01
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"Three Peats": DCA

Hawthorne Caballeros 72, 73 & 74. In the 1970s, Caballeros won DCA 1970, 72,
73, 74 & 76. Yhey were runner up 77, 78, 79 & 80. Third in 71 behind
Skyliners and Yankee Rebels. Dynasty?

American Legion Nationals:

Skokie Indians 55, 56 & 57.

American Legion Nationals:

Hawthorne Caballeros: 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, and 1964. The "streak" was
snapped by the Rochester Grey Knights Post Crusaders in 1965.

SAM

Jjg5150

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Oct 13, 2001, 7:24:08 AM10/13/01
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In regards to your junior catagory Garfield was a 3-peat in 83,84,85

Frank Schoenbach

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Oct 13, 2001, 8:15:56 AM10/13/01
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The VFW streak no one's mentioned---St. Vincen'ts 1950, 1951, 1952,
1953, lost in that big upset by Blessed Sac in 54 then won again in 55
and 56.

The current Legion Nationals--IMO, it's not the Legion Nationals of
old because it's not in any way connected with the National
Convention. Why isn't it? Why Scranton? Why can't the corps travel
to the convention like in the old days? Especially now with Sr corps
coming in from all over, what's wrong with the eastern corps doing a
little traveling? Sure have DCA wherever in the East, but why not go
to the convention site for Legion instead of Scranton?

Tom & Karen Peashey

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Oct 13, 2001, 11:24:38 AM10/13/01
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easy... MONEY... if legion could run the show at the nationals and make
money... they would... they can't. end of discussion

this is strictly a case of something is better than nothing...

What can I say Frank... my old friend... as we've all learned in the last
month... life is not always fair.

I'm just pleased that the Legion is cooperating and still recognizing the
strong roots of drum corps firmly entrenched in it's history...

they even cooperated this coming year by agreeing to forego the normal
Legion Championship in Scranton and declare the highest American Finishing
corps at DCA Finals in Scranton the American Legion Champion...

I also would like to thank the American Legion - The National Committees,
the Dept. of PA, NY and NJ for all their help and support in trying to get a
joint tribute in NYC in the near future...

Tom Peashey

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Sambuca312

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Oct 13, 2001, 11:36:43 AM10/13/01
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As the Garfield Cadets they won American Legion Nationals in 1960, 61, 62 and
1964. As the Holy Name Cadets they won six addditional Legion titles going all
the way back into the 1940s.

The St Vincents Cadets of Bayonne NJ went undefeated 1951-1952. In that time
period they won both years VFW and American Legion Nationals as well as the NJ
State Championships for both Veterans Associations.

The Chicago Cavaliers won the VFW Nationals in 1961, 62 & 63, going undefeated
in 1961.

SAM

Frank Schoenbach

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Oct 13, 2001, 12:08:40 PM10/13/01
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 15:39:29 GMT, Ron Allard <R...@Diceman.com> wrote:


>
>Other "3-or-more-peats":
>AL:
>Boys of '76: 22, 23, 24, 25

There's a bass drum in the Wisconsin Veteran's museum with the Legion
seal, those dates and the locations of nationals on it, doesn't give
the name of the corps but I'm sure it was something either the Legion
gave them, or their post gave them or the corps made themselves.

>VFW:
>Boys of '76: 22, 23, 24, 25
>Wayne County Council: 34, 35, 36, 37
>Reilly Raiders: 57, 58, 59
>Reading Buccaneers: 60, 61, 62

Are you sure about VFW starting that early? I thought they didn't
start holding contests til the late 20's or early 30's.


Frank Schoenbach

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Oct 13, 2001, 12:11:03 PM10/13/01
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Ok

On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 15:24:38 GMT, "Tom & Karen Peashey"
<patr...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>easy... MONEY... if legion could run the show at the nationals and make
>money... they would... they can't. end of discussion
>
>this is strictly a case of something is better than nothing...
>
>What can I say Frank... my old friend... as we've all learned in the last
>month... life is not always fair.
>
>I'm just pleased that the Legion is cooperating and still recognizing the
>strong roots of drum corps firmly entrenched in it's history...
>
>they even cooperated this coming year by agreeing to forego the normal
>Legion Championship in Scranton and declare the highest American Finishing
>corps at DCA Finals in Scranton the American Legion Champion...

Ok, would there then be a big show that everyone goes to to replace
Legion nationals on the weekend it usually falls on?

Tom & Karen Peashey

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Oct 13, 2001, 4:30:12 PM10/13/01
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I honestly have not been told yet... I personally would rather see 2 shows
that night, but somehow I expect that there will be a regional that night.
I think you can guess where I bet it will be....

Tom


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Tom & Karen Peashey

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Oct 13, 2001, 4:32:12 PM10/13/01
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If Minnesota is... then yes, they are....

Tom

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> Tom & Karen Peashey said:
>
> >
> >they even cooperated this coming year by agreeing to forego the normal
> >Legion Championship in Scranton and declare the highest American
Finishing
> >corps at DCA Finals in Scranton the American Legion Champion...
>
>

> Just curious:
> Are all the DCA (American) corps still sponsored or affiliated with an AL
Post?
>
>
> --
> Ron in Vegas
> mailto:ron.a...@att.net
>
> "Because there was always something about the Skyliners...
> and that music..."
> - Donnie Solinger
>
> Senior Corps History site:
> http://www.SrCorps.com


Andrew H. Grilk

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Oct 15, 2001, 9:30:20 AM10/15/01
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That 3peat was for the American Legion Nationals, not DCA's.

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--
Andrew H. Grilk
Hawthorne Caballeros
Lead Baritone
1988-Present.


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