TOP TEN DCI HORNLINES OF ALL TIME
Brass45813
to hornlines. To me there is nothing better than a great hornline. I put this
list of my top ten all time DCI hornlines together based on my opinions only.
I took into account the amount of sound put out, quality of sound put out,
stylistic interpretation, oustanding soloists, overall musicallity such as
balance, blend, dynamic contrast, and intonation, and finally just sheer power.
Here is my top ten:
1. '84 Garfield Cadets
2. '94 Blue Devils
3. '93 Star of Indiana
4. '86 Blue Devils
5. '83 Garfield Cadets
6. '92 Star of Indiana
7. '96 Blue Devils
8. '96 Phantom Regiment
9. '82 Blue Devils
10. '89 Phantom Regiment
Again these are my opinions only and not that of any one else's, nor are they
official at all. Please give your opinions as to your top ten hornlines of all
time.
Spencer Jepson
Here's my top ten in no particular order:
1982 Spirit of Atlanta
1987 Santa Clara Vanguard
1988 Blue Devils
1991 Star of Indiana
1992 Cavaliers
1993 Star of Indiana
1994 Blue Devils
1995 Cavaliers
1996 Phantom Regiment
1998 Santa Clara Vanguard
Most of these are from the 1990's because that's when i've had my exposure
to corps.
Spencer Jepson
SCV Cadet Baritone 1993-94
SCV Contra 1996
SCV Alumni Corps Contra 1997
Band Director, Atwater High School 1998-????
Brass Caption Head, California Shockwave 1998-????
Drepsed
1) Phantom 1996
2) Star 1993
3) BD 1994
4) SCV 1989
5) Cadets 1993
DTaylor91
2. 82 BD
3. 80 Spirit
4. 91 Star
5 93 Star
6. 85 Suncoast
7. 86 Suncoast
8. 84 Suncoast
9. 84 BD
10. 98 Magic (bias admitted, but check out the cd when it comes out)
standard disclaimers apply.
Don Taylor
Robert Brown
Brass45813 wrote in messag
> 1. '84 Garfield Cadets
> 2. '94 Blue Devils
> 3. '93 Star of Indiana
> 4. '86 Blue Devils
> 5. '83 Garfield Cadets
> 6. '92 Star of Indiana
> 7. '96 Blue Devils
> 8. '96 Phantom Regiment
> 9. '82 Blue Devils
>10. '89 Phantom Regiment
>
Your selections are good ones, however, any list of top horn lines needs to
include the 88 Blue Devils.
Rob
Blue Devils 81-85
Hey Z!
Robert Brown <rbr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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>
> Brass45813 wrote in messag
> > 1. '84 Garfield Cadets ,............(Barky) book was hard.
> > 2. '94 Blue Devils ................(too homogonous, too much same
color)
> > 3. '93 Star of Indiana .................(NICE)
> > 4. '86 Blue Devils ..................(88 was better)
> > 5. '83 Garfield Cadets........... (Awsome considering the equiptment
used, lots of duct tape)
> > 6. '92 Star of Indiana ...........(NICE also)
> > 7. '96 Blue Devils.......... (hard too tell, they sound the same for 5
yrs, nothing spec 4 devs)
> > 8. '96 Phantom Regiment ...........(Definitely unique and beautiful,
most fav, diff colors)
> > 9. '82 Blue Devils (Awsome, don't forget 84)
> >10. '89 Phantom Regiment (predecessor to 96 PR, great horn line)
Lets Not forget the 86 Suncoast Sound who beat Devs in Field horns across
the board at finals.
Don't forget 83 & 85 Suncoast also. These were uniquely Ballsy hornlines
and very colorfull.
83 Madison Scouts (opener & strawberry soup)
82 Sky Ryders
81 Madison Scouts
81 SCV
80 Bridgemen (listen carefully, not an easy book, full bodied)
80 Phantom Regiment
79 Guardsmen (one of Tim Salzmans best)
79 BD
79, 80 Spirit
78 Phantom Regiment (Heavy Metal)
77 Bridgemen (Extreamly in tune for PR's) Great Sound.
76 Nothing special
75 Muchachos (awsome! very mature sound, unfortunately too mature)
74 Kingsmen (clean, powerful, chrome & PR's)
73 Argonne Rebels (Sandra Opies kids) Huge open mouth/throat sound for the
time, equiptment, & recording technology)
72 Kingsmen (clean) barky, hey it was 72!
Dennis E. Sparrow
>Re: top ten
>
>1972 Kingsmen (all 43 of them)
>1973 Argonne Rebels (simply awesome)
>1975 Madison Scouts tie with Muchachos
>1978 Spirit of Atlanta (execution to the max)
>1982 Blue Devils (have to love that style)
>1983 Garfield (yes an east coast corps)
>1987 SCV (beautiful show)
>1988 Madison (balls to the wall dc)
>1991 Star (very nice sound)
>1994 Blue Devils (blew you away)
>
>Herb Gatwood
>
>Thank you Herb!!! All these neophytes who think Drum Corps didnt exist before
>1988!!
>
>You should also go into the 60s as well...65 Royalaires, 68 Kilties
'69 Royalaires too!
>I was actually shocked that the 1st few lists didnt included Madison in the 70s
>which was the definition of power, style and finesse AND won 4 out of the first
>5 DCI horn titles. Madison defined jazz as a Drum Corps idiom.
>Madison's bari line was awesome and the Scouts arranger at the time Ray
>Baumgart, a trombonist himself, literally wrote the book on low brass
>arranging. NOBODY has yet to approach the low brass sound of Madison thru 1979.
I agree with the list that Herb posted and your additions, but I would have to
say that Phantom had matched, if not surpassed the low brass sound of Madison in
'78. "Firebird" off the line is all the proof I need. Such a killer low brass
sound.
>And I totally agree with your choice of 73 Argonne. They were fantastic.
Ditto. Sandra's kids were great. I hated her as a judge. She could tick the
shit out of anybody, not that we didn't deserve it.
>All you young puppies out there buy some old DCI CDs and learn what Drum Corps
>was before horn lines became accompaniment for obscure flights of fancy!
I agree totally. You don't know what you have missed until you play some of the
all time classics of drum corps. Thanks Dan.
Dennis
'72-'82
'99+
Luis De Anda
1. 94' Blue Devils
2. 86' Blue Devils
3. 96' Madison Scouts
4. 95' Madison Scouts
5. 97' Blue Devils
6. 83' Blue Devils
7. 97' Cadets of Bergen County
8. 96' Cadets of Bergen County
9. 92' Blue Devils
10. 93' Blue Devils
Vincent Villarta
1979 - Guardsmen
1990 - Star of Indiana
1991 - Star of Indiana
1993 - Star of Indiana
1979 - Spirit of Atlanta
1987 - Santa Clara Vanguard
1994 - Blue Devils
1986 - Blue Devils
1996 - Phantom Regiment
BLGrimace
> 2. '94 Blue Devils
> 5. '83 Garfield Cadets
> 8. '96 Phantom Regiment
> 9. '82 Blue Devils
>10. '89 Phantom Regiment
Sure, it wasn't exactly a DCI hornline in most aspects, but I think it's a
shame to not put '98 Marion Cadets in this group. What a tight,
well-put-together group! Too often, we only look at the big "powerful" corps,
but Marion deserved (and often got) a standing ovation at every show they
performed last summer.
Grimace
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BLGrimace
>> 1. '84 Garfield Cadets
>> 2. '94 Blue Devils
>> 3. '93 Star of Indiana
>> 4. '86 Blue Devils
>> 5. '83 Garfield Cadets
>> 6. '92 Star of Indiana
>> 7. '96 Blue Devils
>> 8. '96 Phantom Regiment
>> 9. '82 Blue Devils
>>10. '89 Phantom Regiment
>
>Sure, it wasn't exactly a DCI hornline in most aspects, but I think it's a
>shame to not put '98 Marion Cadets in this group. What a tight,
>well-put-together group! Too often, we only look at the big "powerful"
>corps,
>but Marion deserved (and often got) a standing ovation at every show they
>performed last summer.
Make that the 97 hornline for Marion. . .
Grimace
HTGJLG
Dan S24103
Herb Gatwood
Thank you Herb!!! All these neophytes who think Drum Corps didnt exist before
1988!!
You should also go into the 60s as well...65 Royalaires, 68 Kilties,
I was actually shocked that the 1st few lists didnt included Madison in the 70s
which was the definition of power, style and finesse AND won 4 out of the first
5 DCI horn titles. Madison defined jazz as a Drum Corps idiom.
Madison's bari line was awesome and the Scouts arranger at the time Ray
Baumgart, a trombonist himself, literally wrote the book on low brass
arranging. NOBODY has yet to approach the low brass sound of Madison thru 1979.
And I totally agree with your choice of 73 Argonne. They were fantastic.
All you young puppies out there buy some old DCI CDs and learn what Drum Corps
HTGJLG
>Date: 9/11/98 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <199809120355...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>All you young puppies out there buy some old DCI CDs and learn what Drum
>Corps
>was before horn lines became accompaniment for obscure flights of fancy!
Isn't that the truth!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, what I wouldn't give to sit down in front of those horn lines today.
There are so many more to choose from.
1968 Kilties, Cavies, 1965 Royalaires and selected years from the following;
Blue Rock, Boston Crusaders, St. Lucy's, Blessed Sac, 27th Lancers, Blue
Stars,.... and the list goes on.
Can you remember the sop line from St. Andrews Bridgemen when they came up to
the front side line and just blew you away(early seventies). Exposure City!
Even horn lines like the Purple Lancers in 1974 can blow most of the horn lines
out there today.
Let's get back to our roots and let these talented youths play to the audience.
Herb Gatwood
Slote4
no order.
93 cadets
93 Star
86 Suncoast (Won Field Brass- Save Bill Doyle!!!!!!!!)
85 Suncoast ( HORNLINE! and Unique!!)
87 Cadets
83 Suncoast
96 DEvils
91 Star
89 Suncoast- a rag tag group of 51 horns/some were plugs too-that was told they
would never make finals that year and was Third in brass at Prelims!!!(ala
Frank Williams and Robert Smith!!!) (Who gave them the score?-Bill Doyle!!!!!)
Vanguard 98 -I liked them a lot!!!!
just my opinion and not meant to offend anyone. just an old Suncoaster!!!!!
Vinson
In the 90's since those are all the ones ive seen up close:
1. 95 scouts
2. 91, 93 star
3. 96 phantom
4. 94 BD
5. 97 BD
Vinson
Hadam16
Charles D Casteen
Brass45813 <brass...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199809112307...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> I am a drum corps fan that loves all facets of the activity, but I am
partial
> to hornlines. To me there is nothing better than a great hornline. I
put this
> list of my top ten all time DCI hornlines together based on my opinions
only.
> I took into account the amount of sound put out, quality of sound put
out,
> stylistic interpretation, oustanding soloists, overall musicallity such
as
> balance, blend, dynamic contrast, and intonation, and finally just sheer
power.
> Here is my top ten:
>
> 1. '84 Garfield Cadets -JIM PRIME
> 2. '94 Blue Devils -WAYNE DOWNEY
> 3. '93 Star of Indiana -JIM PRIME
> 4. '86 Blue Devils -WAYNE DOWNEY
> 5. '83 Garfield Cadets -JIM PRIME
> 6. '92 Star of Indiana -JIM PRIME
> 7. '96 Blue Devils -WAYNE DOWNEY
> 8. '96 Phantom Regiment -JIM WREN
> 9. '82 Blue Devils -WAYNE DOWNEY
> 10. '89 Phantom Regiment -JIM WREN
I THINK THERE IS A PATTERN HERE - 91 STAR LEFT OUT OF THIS LIST?????
HMMMM...
Vkdm8687
were so loud they broke the glass in the press box....
Ryan H. Turner
VK DRUM MAJOR 1986 and 1987
CURRENT SHOW DESIGNER for S. CAL MARCHING BANDS/WINTER GUARDS
Assistant Band Director, Fountain Valley High School Royal Regiment
.....and all around nice guy!!!!
GArmani42
BD...'86, '94
Cadets...'84, '93
Madison...'88, '91 (?)
Phantom...'96
Suncoast...'84, '85, '86
SCV...'87
Spirit...'84
Alan and Ginger Armstrong
>
>Here's my top ten in no particular order:
>
> 1982 Spirit of Atlanta
>Most of these are from the 1990's because that's when i've had my exposure
>to corps.
>
> Spencer Jepson
> SCV Cadet Baritone 1993-94
> SCV Contra 1996
> SCV Alumni Corps Contra 1997
> Band Director, Atwater High School 1998-????
> Brass Caption Head, California Shockwave 1998-????
>
Spencer,
Thanks for the note about the Atlanta line but SURELY you mean one of
the lines from 79 or 80. '82 was a "less than stellar" year for us in
Atlanta with the majority of the hornline rookies. All those kids
stuck with it though and we built towards a very strong line again in
'86. Just think you must have meant 1980, that was Jim Ott's last
line the first half the season and Freddy Martin took it over after
Jim's death and finished the season.
Later, AA
T. Alan Armstrong
Director of Bands
Northgate High School
3220 Fisher Road
Newnan, GA 30265
(770) 463-5585
(770) 463-4982 (fax)
Steve Sorrell
>Here's my top ten in no particular order:
> 1982 Spirit of Atlanta
You must be kidding! 1982 was the weakest Spirit hornline from 1977
to 1990. Thanks, but I think you probably meant another year. Our
repertoire in 82 sucked!
Steve
> 1987 Santa Clara Vanguard
> 1988 Blue Devils
> 1991 Star of Indiana
> 1992 Cavaliers
> 1993 Star of Indiana
> 1994 Blue Devils
> 1995 Cavaliers
> 1996 Phantom Regiment
> 1998 Santa Clara Vanguard
Steve Sorrell
>Thank GOD someone in this post remember the 1980 Spirit line...I heard they
>were so loud they broke the glass in the press box....
Here we go again...that rumor.
No one that I've talked to in Spirit from 1980 said that that actually
happened. Rumor...just rumor.
Steve
Devin Namaky
Terri Dittrich
>
> I agree with the list that Herb posted and your additions, but I would have to
> say that Phantom had matched, if not surpassed the low brass sound of Madison in
> '78. "Firebird" off the line is all the proof I need. Such a killer low brass
> sound.
Awesome snare part off the line, too. I loved that. But we are talking
about hornlines and I agree that it would be hard to match the low
brass of PR that year. I just liked the whole show and they did win
brass.
>
> >And I totally agree with your choice of 73 Argonne. They were fantastic.
>
> Ditto. Sandra's kids were great. I hated her as a judge. She could tick the
> shit out of anybody, not that we didn't deserve it.
You hated her? Well, we loved her. ;-)
>
> >All you young puppies out there buy some old DCI CDs and learn what Drum Corps
> >was before horn lines became accompaniment for obscure flights of fancy!
That's pretty good, LOL!
>
> I agree totally. You don't know what you have missed until you play some of the
> all time classics of drum corps. Thanks Dan.
>
> Dennis
> '72-'82
> '99+
-Terri
Terri Dittrich
>
> "Spencer Jepson" <scvan...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Here's my top ten in no particular order:
> >
> > 1982 Spirit of Atlanta
>
> >to corps.
> >
> > Spencer Jepson
> > SCV Cadet Baritone 1993-94
> > SCV Contra 1996
> > SCV Alumni Corps Contra 1997
> > Band Director, Atwater High School 1998-????
> > Brass Caption Head, California Shockwave 1998-????
> >
>
>
> Thanks for the note about the Atlanta line but SURELY you mean one of
> the lines from 79 or 80. '82 was a "less than stellar" year for us in
> Atlanta with the majority of the hornline rookies. All those kids
> stuck with it though and we built towards a very strong line again in
> '86. Just think you must have meant 1980, that was Jim Ott's last
> line the first half the season and Freddy Martin took it over after
> Jim's death and finished the season.
>
> Later, AA
>
> T. Alan Armstrong
> Director of Bands
> Northgate High School
> 3220 Fisher Road
> Newnan, GA 30265
> (770) 463-5585
> (770) 463-4982 (fax)
they were a clean line. It was so full of emotion that it filled the
stadium. I don't think I'll ever forget that show.
We used to get into terrible rows with Guardsmen staff and management
because there were six of us who were just crazy for Spirit and we'd
wear SOA t-shirts. In '78, we were known as the Spirit six. We even got
a tour of their buses! We were very impressed. I don't think I've ever
told anyone on here that one.
-Terri
Dennis E. Sparrow
>Dennis E. Sparrow wrote:
>>
>
>> I agree with the list that Herb posted and your additions, but I would have
to
>> say that Phantom had matched, if not surpassed the low brass sound of Madison
in
>> '78. "Firebird" off the line is all the proof I need. Such a killer low
brass
>> sound.
>Awesome snare part off the line, too. I loved that. But we are talking
>about hornlines and I agree that it would be hard to match the low
>brass of PR that year. I just liked the whole show and they did win
>brass.
>>
>> >And I totally agree with your choice of 73 Argonne. They were fantastic.
>>
>> Ditto. Sandra's kids were great. I hated her as a judge. She could tick
the
>> shit out of anybody, not that we didn't deserve it.
>
>You hated her? Well, we loved her. ;-)
She was fair. We just didn't like being humbled every now and then.
BLGrimace
I hadn't noticed it until you pointed it out. Of course, my mentor I
immediately noticed (Jim Wren,) but the others just now. Very good eye, and I
think we see just what can push a brassline over the top. Wayne Downey is
simply the man, by the way.
RDoran8728
Airs; 67 DesPlaines Vanguard. Also must
emphasize the strength of both Phantom
and SCV in '89 plus 91 Star. No '70's hornlines come to mind, sadly.
RDoran8728
Muchachos and '68 Kilts.
LP1955
wall of sound.
Leo Parry
Smith and Webber Hoboken NJ 64-65
Amvent Lancers WestNewyork NJ 66-68
St. Andrews Bridgemen NJ 69-76
Skyliners Alumni 98- ?
mold...@gac.edu
1- 94 Devils
2- 96 Regiment
3- 86 Devils
4- 91 Star
5- 89 Regiment
6- 93 Star
7- 88 Devils
8- 84 Cadets
9- 95 Madison
10-82 Regiment
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arranger
Not trying to "diss" any '70's era DCI hornlines, but in terms of quality,
intonation, and expression, things really started to take a turn for the better
with the 1979 Blue Devils. As a result of "redefining" hornline sound, the
following corps have stood the test of time in my opinion.
While there have been many corps with great brass lines, these are my very
subjective Top 10:
1. 1988 Blue Devils
2. 1992 Star Of Indiana
3. 1985 Suncoast Sound
4. 1982 Blue Devils
5, 1991 Star Of Indiana
6. 1986 Blue Devils
7. 1984 Garfield Cadets
8. 1989 Phantom Regiment
9. 1983 Suncoast Sound
10. 1996 Phantom Regiment
Honorable Mention:
1. 1984 Suncoast Sound
2. 1982 Sky Ryders
3. 1980 Spirit Of Atlanta
4. 1985 Madison Scouts
5. 1995 Madison Scouts
Chuck Naffier
A Drum Corps Fan - Especially Brass Lines!!
Jolson6060
show and they are awesome.
Now, back to my era.
BD 90,91,94
Star 90,91,93
Cadets 96: Not their best show, nor my favorite, but that was their best horn
line, IMO, they have put out.
Phantom 96: 94, was good as well, except the very end when that Baritone let
out the biggest frack in the history of fracks.
Cavies 92: Proves you can play music written by English composers and leave
the show humming the melody. Oh yeah....they sounded great as well. Oh
yeah.....I'm a biased alumni.
Spirit 80: Loud is good
From a Cavies standpoint, I think 94 was the best Cavies hornline ever. Nobody
really caught on to the show, but that hornline was hot. 95 and 96 were great
lines as well.
My thoughts,
John
Stonem73
>>were so loud they broke the glass in the press box....
>
If you want to talk about loud, we can. The year is 1998, the Madison Scouts
and the Blue Devils are playing a concert in Ypsilanti Michigan. The Madison
Scouts are on stage playing God Bless A Child, their hornline hits one of the
loudest points in the song when lights from the rafters up above fall(not
hitting anyone though) Now that was loud, no press box but I don't think anyone
could.
Mark Fosdick
in no paticualar order.
Cadets 1993
Phantom 1989
Cadets 84
Phantom 89
Madison 88
Madison 95
Star 93
Devils 94
Devils 96
Vanguard 98
Mark Fosdick
Mark Fosdick
Robert Brown wrote in message <6tcd2a$9...@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>...
>
>Brass45813 wrote in messag
>> 1. '84 Garfield Cadets
>> 2. '94 Blue Devils
>> 3. '93 Star of Indiana
>> 4. '86 Blue Devils
>> 5. '83 Garfield Cadets
>> 6. '92 Star of Indiana
>> 7. '96 Blue Devils
>> 8. '96 Phantom Regiment
>> 9. '82 Blue Devils
>>10. '89 Phantom Regiment
>>
>
>
>Your selections are good ones, however, any list of top horn lines needs to
>include the 88 Blue Devils.
>
>Rob
>Blue Devils 81-85
>
>
>
>
Chris Arrington
1. '96 PR
2. '94 BD
3. '91 Star
4. '89 PR
5. '96 BD
6. '86 BD
7. '93 Star
8. '95 Cadets
9. '94 Cadets
10. '89 SCV
Chris A.
FrankAreMe
> 1. 1984 Suncoast Sound
> 2. 1982 Sky Ryders
> 3. 1980 Spirit Of Atlanta
> 4. 1985 Madison Scouts
> 5. 1995 Madison Scouts
>
>
>Chuck Naffier
>A Drum Corps Fan - Especially
Not bad choices Chuck, but what about your hornline in 93?? One of my
favorites! For real!!
Greg took me into the circle at Sun Prairie High School that year and I just
about got my ears blown off!!!! LOVED IT!! :)
But just for grins here's my top ten:
75 Madison
74 Madison
72 Blue Star
95 Madison
73 Madison
76 Blue Devils
80 Spirit
82 Blue Devils
85 Madison
84 Garfield
Frank
jaime bartushak
aforementioned years, "92 & 93", and yes 1991 should be included, is Don
Van Doren. Possibly the best horn man ever. Also did an incredible job
with Brass Theater.
Prime & Downey, are in a class by themselves as far as arrangers go.
Jaime Bartushak
____________________________________________________________
HTGJLG
>Date: 9/12/98 9:18 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <qsvK1.214$r5.38...@news1.i1.net>
>
>>> >And I totally agree with your choice of 73 Argonne. They were fantastic.
>>>
>>> Ditto. Sandra's kids were great. I hated her as a judge. She could tick
>the
>>> shit out of anybody, not that we didn't deserve it.
>>
>>You hated her? Well, we loved her. ;-)
>
>She was fair. We just didn't like being humbled every now and then.
Not only was she a good judge, but let's face it, she may have been one of the
best horn instructors ever at pure execution. 1973 Argonne Rebels horn line
just rocked. A person with a trained ear could sit in front of that horn line
and get blown away by the level of execution. I know, I did.
Herb Gatwood
BDJazz9
2. 95 BD
3. 93 BD
4. 92 Star
5. 92 SCV
6. 89 Phantom
7. 90 BD
8. 97 BD
9. 94 BD
10. 88 SCV
Maybe not in this particular order, but close
mold...@gac.edu
mold...@gac.edu wrote:
>
> 1- 94 Devils
> 2- 96 Regiment
> 3- 86 Devils
> 4- 91 Star
> 5- 89 Regiment
> 6- 93 Star
> 7- 88 Devils
> 8- 84 Cadets
> 9- 95 Madison
> 10-82 Regiment
As I was watching the 91 videos this afternoon I realized that I had make
a grave mistake. Please add 91 Blue Devils to that list. Awesome.
CHEZ
NO ORDER
197O ? -ARGONNE REBELS
1986 -BLUE DEVILS
1979 SPIRIT OF ATLANTA
1984-GARFIELD CADETS
1996 PHANTOM REGIMENT
1980 -BAYONNE BRIDGEMEN
1997- BLUE DEVILS
1982 -GARFIELD CADETS
1975 MADISON SCOUTS
1981 SANTA CLARA VANGUARD
1975 MUCHOCHOES
1972 SANTA CLARA VANGUARD
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Ed Boxer
96 PR
91 Star
89 PR
88 Scouts
97 PR
94 BD
95 Cavies
93 Star
96 BD
95 Scouts
Ed "Boxer" Jones
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great!
Rick
Spirit
Terri Dittrich
the field at Whitewater by a couple of friends working the show and I
stood right in front of the brassline during their victory concert. It
was just unbelievable. Thanks for reminding me of that night!
-Terri
DHass11576
1986,88 Devils
1984 Garfield
1991,1993 Star
1995 Madison
1996 Regiment
...??
*****************************
Doug - In Fort Wayne, IN
"Being Good is the enemy of excellence"
GEORGE 82
>intonation, and expression, things really started to take a turn for the
>better
>with the 1979 Blue Devils.
AMEN!!!!
Here are my choices (in no particular order):
79 Blue Devils
84 Garfield Cadets
95 Madison Scouts
91 Star of Indiana
90 Academie Musicale
83 Garfield Cadets
94 Blue Devils
80 Spirit of Atlanta
80 Bayonne Bridgemen
86 Suncoast Sound
GArmani42
>were
>great!
>
>Rick
>Spirit
and i can't believe that i may have been the only one to put down Star 90. i
thought that was their best brass book ever, and they were totally clean at
finals and ended up tying for brass (pretty sure).
darryl =0)
gcuzz
Ed Boxer wrote:
88 Scouts???
Yuck! That sound is just plain ol' nasty!...very "splatty."
The list should begin and end with the 1993 Star of Indiana. The darkest,
roundest, fullest sound, clean as hell, in tune, with an unmatched dynamic
range, and each and every person doing exactly the same thing exactly the same
way...the BEST marching wind ensemble EVER assembled.
GC
Dennis E. Sparrow
gcuzz wrote in message:
>
>88 Scouts???
>
>Yuck! That sound is just plain ol' nasty!...very "splatty."
>
>The list should begin and end with the 1993 Star of Indiana. The darkest,
>roundest, fullest sound, clean as hell, in tune, with an unmatched dynamic
>range, and each and every person doing exactly the same thing exactly the same
>way...the BEST marching wind ensemble EVER assembled.
>
"Marching Wind Ensemble"? Maybe you should lay off of that bando brand crack a
wee bit. It ain't good for you.
Dennis "Crackin' Up" Sparrow
Ryan Ronald
VERY talented line of players.
I would say that 96 and 97 were extremely interesting. In 1996, I thought
we had a better book; in 97, our hornline was much better, though, but
our book had a few very exposed spots that didn't always come out
successfully--intonation, ensemble tightness, etc.
This is an example of how the lesser hornline (96) outdid the better
hornline. For those visual-orientated people out there, the drill had a
lot to do with our success in 1996. Everything was staged perfectly, yes
absolutely PERFECTLY, which eliminated many music ensemble phasing
problems. It also cleaned up balance well.
In 96, our drill moved at a very controlled pace. The drill moved at a
pretty constant 8 to 5 step size, but motion was created through the
design. Effects were created by design, not by people running. I think
96 PR was the response to the mad-running marathon found in 95 PR.
Ryan Tysdal
Phantom Regiment Baritone
1996-1997-1998-1999-????
On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, gcuzz wrote:
>
>
> Ed Boxer wrote:
>
> > In no particular order:
> >
> > 96 PR
> > 91 Star
> > 89 PR
> > 88 Scouts
> > 97 PR
> > 94 BD
> > 95 Cavies
> > 93 Star
> > 96 BD
> > 95 Scouts
> > Ed "Boxer" Jones
> >
> > Check out my home page: http://www.GeoCities.com/WestHollywood/9172
> > A Guide to Opera on CD; Boxing; my Lego creations; Drum and Bugle Corps; Key
> > West
>
> 88 Scouts???
>
> Yuck! That sound is just plain ol' nasty!...very "splatty."
>
> The list should begin and end with the 1993 Star of Indiana. The darkest,
> roundest, fullest sound, clean as hell, in tune, with an unmatched dynamic
> range, and each and every person doing exactly the same thing exactly the same
> way...the BEST marching wind ensemble EVER assembled.
>
> GC
>
>
>
Jet Pi9949
Chicago Royal Airs
Terry Doran Kilties
Discojb
2. Madison Scouts 95
3. Blue Devils 94
4. Blue Devils 88
5. Star of Indiana 92
6. Star of Indiana 93
7. Phantom Regiment 96
8. Madison Scouts 96
9. Santa Clara Vanguard 89
10. Cadets of BC 93 (I'll give them credit even though I shouldn't because of
their sopranos that year)
MarkJnstne
Mark Johnstone
TubusMax
>> >roundest, fullest sound, clean as hell, in tune, with an unmatched dynamic
>> >range, and each and every person doing exactly the same thing exactly the
>> >same way...the BEST marching wind ensemble EVER assembled.
>> >
>>
>>
>crack
>> a wee bit. It ain't good for you.
>
>2) He could be speaking in strict terms (horns are wind instruments vs
>stringed instruments, for example. He didn't say WOODwind...)
>3) He could be doing generics again
>
>I hope it's #2...
>
>
I think he must be an out of control Music Ed major. :)
je
Cavie95
>thought that was their best brass book ever, and they were totally clean at
>finals and ended up tying for brass (pretty sure).
>
>darryl =0)
>
fyi,
you are correct - Star won took 1st in horns in 90...
ECS
Aloha HS vis instructor 97-98
FMM Rosemont Cavaliers 1994,95 DCI World Champion
FMM Longview Marauders 1990-93
U Of Oregon 1992-94
Sunset HS 1989-92
{These views are mine alone, and do not represent the views of these or any
other organizations}
Dennis E. Sparrow
>97 Regiment---WOW! What a surprise. Although not the best horn book, a
>VERY talented line of players.
>
>I would say that 96 and 97 were extremely interesting. In 1996, I thought
>we had a better book; in 97, our hornline was much better, though, but
>our book had a few very exposed spots that didn't always come out
>successfully--intonation, ensemble tightness, etc.
>
>This is an example of how the lesser hornline (96) outdid the better
>hornline. For those visual-orientated people out there, the drill had a
>lot to do with our success in 1996. Everything was staged perfectly, yes
>absolutely PERFECTLY, which eliminated many music ensemble phasing
>problems. It also cleaned up balance well.
>
>In 96, our drill moved at a very controlled pace. The drill moved at a
>pretty constant 8 to 5 step size, but motion was created through the
>design. Effects were created by design, not by people running. I think
>96 PR was the response to the mad-running marathon found in 95 PR.
Imagine that! That's what I have been saying all along. Maybe I should add
some phoney art credentials to my resume and start writing drill for the year
2000.
The Artist Formerly Known as Dennis E. Sparrow
Jolson6060
Take out very controlled and insert "snails."
John
Terri Dittrich
You are kidding, I know, but I bet you could BS your way to the top!
Plus, you probably have some real talent for it. Say you have an
architectural degree. That should do the trick.
-Terri
Dennis E. Sparrow
Terri Dittrich wrote in message <35FD78...@worldnet.att.net>...
Me? BS? LOL. Surely not. I do, however, have an engineering degree and one
hell of a computer aided design system, complete with 3d humanoids. Rendering
an 11 minute drum corps show in 3d would be kind of fun, although very time
consuming. Hmmm, a Virtual Reality drum corps show.
Dennis "Geekin Again" Sparrow
PCR Anton
I don't even want to try to come up with a top 10 since there have been many
good, diverse hornlines.
But I just couldn't take this--especially at #1. I just listened to that CD the
other day, and I concluded that '84 Garfield was one of the worst, crassest,
unmusical hornlines that had even won a horn trophy. (3-way tie incl BD and
SCV.)
I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone could put this hornline in
their top 10, let alone #1! BD and SCV in '84 were SO MUCH better in every way
it's not funny. BD's La Fiesta and SCV's Tender Land are fine examples of
hornlines deserving of Top 10 honors.
I'll give '84 Garfield a bow for Top 10 visual programs of all time (even
that's a stretch), but in no way should that hornline be remembered for
anything resembling excellence.
MOFLOBY
EAParker1
BillN 911
>Hi Gang,
>
>Not trying to "diss" any '70's era DCI hornlines, but in terms of quality,
>better
>following corps have stood the test of time in my opinion.
>
>While there have been many corps with great brass lines, these are my very
>subjective Top 10:
>
>
>1. 1988 Blue Devils
>2. 1992 Star Of Indiana
>3. 1985 Suncoast Sound
>4. 1982 Blue Devils
>5, 1991 Star Of Indiana
92 Star over 91? Are you kidding me? 90 AND 91 star's hornline were without a
doubt better than 92.
RDoran8728
Don't know how anyone can ignore the
top corps in 1989--especially PR and SCV.
Don't believe 85 Suncoast or even 82
BD are in the same league as '89.
GArmani42
>>While there have been many corps with great brass lines, these are my very
>>subjective Top 10:
>>
>>
>>1. 1988 Blue Devils
>>2. 1992 Star Of Indiana
>>3. 1985 Suncoast Sound
>>4. 1982 Blue Devils
>>5, 1991 Star Of Indiana
>
>
isn't 88 bd the year that thelonius (the big black guy) jacked up all his
solos. i know there was a year that he and a few others got really drunk before
finals, and because he was "gone" he totally played like crap. someone please
verify.
>92 Star over 91? Are you kidding me? 90 AND 91 star's hornline were without
>a
>doubt better than 92.
i toally agree with this statement. even 93 was a much better brass year than
92. but 90 was the best brass book of them all.
darryl =0)
arranger
>
> >Hi Gang,
> >
> >Not trying to "diss" any '70's era DCI hornlines, but in terms of quality,
> >intonation, and expression, things really started to take a turn for the
> >better
> >with the 1979 Blue Devils. As a result of "redefining" hornline sound, the
> >following corps have stood the test of time in my opinion.
> >
> >subjective Top 10:
> >
> >
> >1. 1988 Blue Devils
> >2. 1992 Star Of Indiana
> >3. 1985 Suncoast Sound
> >4. 1982 Blue Devils
> >5, 1991 Star Of Indiana
>
> doubt better than 92.
Hi Bill,
No, I am not kidding. The low brass was better IMO in 1992, as were the
sopranos. The mello line of 1991 was better. . . in fact, they were so good
that many forget the rest of the line that year.
1990 Star was incredible, but the drill took its toll on the longer phrases, and
intonation was somewhat off at the "fff" sections at the end of the opener, as
well as at the end of the show. I still love that show, but 1992 was
consistently more "in tune" with better quality across the board.
Just my opinion as stated by the "very subjective Top 10" disclaimer,
feel free to disagree,
that's the beauty of RAMD,
Chuck Naffier
Mike Collins
(GArmani42) wrote:
> >>While there have been many corps with great brass lines, these are my very
> >>subjective Top 10:
> >>
> >>
> >>1. 1988 Blue Devils
> >>2. 1992 Star Of Indiana
> >>3. 1985 Suncoast Sound
> >>4. 1982 Blue Devils
> >>5, 1991 Star Of Indiana
> >
> >
>
> isn't 88 bd the year that thelonius (the big black guy) jacked up all his
> solos. i know there was a year that he and a few others got really drunk
before
> finals, and because he was "gone" he totally played like crap. someone please
> verify.
First of all, his name was not 'thelonius' and secondly, this is all
bullshit...I am so sick and tired of this type of crap ending up on the
newsgroup when people talk about him (it was 1989 btw dipshit). You
people that go after members like this must have a pretty pathetic life.
Unless you've walked in the shoes of a soloist of his caliber (and believe
me he NAILED that solo everytime I saw him on tour) you should keep your
mouth shut. Or at the very least, talk about what happened with some
respect. Your 'facts' are total gossip and unsubstantiated. I knew Dan
very well from my last year in BD (86) and he was a great guy and I knew
he would turn into a fabulous player. I wish people would remember him
from the totality of his playing and not just from one 'gaff' at finals.
Show some respect, ok?
--
Mike Collins
BD 84,86
VK Brass Staff 88-91
Disney Hacker 91-96
Elementary Music Teacher 95-98
Assistant HS Band Director 98-?? (Much Better!)
email: mscol...@earthlink.net
J Fischer
Mike Collins wrote:
> > Someone else wrote:
> >
> > isn't 88 bd the year that thelonius (the big black guy) jacked up all his
> > solos. i know there was a year that he and a few others got really drunk
> before
> > finals, and because he was "gone" he totally played like crap. someone please
> > verify.
>
> First of all, his name was not 'thelonius' and secondly, this is all
> bullshit...I am so sick and tired of this type of crap ending up on the
> newsgroup when people talk about him (it was 1989 btw dipshit). You
> people that go after members like this must have a pretty pathetic life.
> Unless you've walked in the shoes of a soloist of his caliber (and believe
> me he NAILED that solo everytime I saw him on tour) you should keep your
> mouth shut. Or at the very least, talk about what happened with some
> respect. Your 'facts' are total gossip and unsubstantiated. I knew Dan
> very well from my last year in BD (86) and he was a great guy and I knew
> he would turn into a fabulous player. I wish people would remember him
> from the totality of his playing and not just from one 'gaff' at finals.
> Show some respect, ok?
>
> --
> Mike Collins
I agree with Mike. That guy was a hell of a player.
John Fischer
STREET43
I would have to put the Argonne Rebels hornline on the list. They were smoking
in their day.
By the way, Chuck, I really enjoyed the Colts show this year. Keep it up
Walter Street
arranger
Hi Walter,
The Argonne Rebels were one of the best. . . no doubt about it! Was it '72 that
they did JC Superstar? If so, WOW!
I hear/heard about them all the time from Craig Harms and Roger Kugler. . . guys
who were there, and guys who I've learned from.
Thanks for the kind words about the Colts show this past year. We view it as a
step in the right direction. Look for even more "crowd friendly" shows in the
very near future!
take care,
Chuck Naffier
Colts. . . blah, blah, blah. . .
JB GALAHAD
>The Argonne Rebels were one of the best. . . no doubt about it! Was it '72
>that
>they did JC Superstar? If so, WOW!
No doubt about it.
I have a video of them from then; they opened with a great "Barnum and Bailey's
Favorites", and also did a CP of "Stars and Stripes". If they ONLY had a drum
line close to the skills of their horn line!
That was a great show!
Mike
CHEZ
>
> > isn't 88 bd the year that thelonius (the big black guy) jacked up all his
> > solos. i know there was a year that he and a few others got really drunk
> before
> > finals, and because he was "gone" he totally played like crap. someone please
> > verify.
>
> First of all, his name was not 'thelonius' and secondly, this is all
> bullshit...I am so sick and tired of this type of crap ending up on the
> newsgroup when people talk about him (it was 1989 btw dipshit). You
> people that go after members like this must have a pretty pathetic life.
> Unless you've walked in the shoes of a soloist of his caliber (and believe
> me he NAILED that solo everytime I saw him on tour) you should keep your
> mouth shut. Or at the very least, talk about what happened with some
> respect. Your 'facts' are total gossip and unsubstantiated. I knew Dan
> very well from my last year in BD (86) and he was a great guy and I knew
> he would turn into a fabulous player. I wish people would remember him
> from the totality of his playing and not just from one 'gaff' at finals.
> Show some respect, ok?
I AMMSURE HE WAS A FINE INDIVIDUAL ,FINE CORPS MEMBER , WITH GREAT CHOPS .
BUT,
HE REALLY DID KACK BADLY.
I know I had lots of them .
C H E Z
IDEL3
Al Chez? Tonight Show? Garfield Cadets?
Dennis E. Sparrow
>
>Al Chez? Tonight Show? Garfield Cadets?
Bzzzzzzt ! Try: Al Chez Late Night With David Letterman Garfield Cadets
Hjshort
Madison Scouts 1975
GArmani42
>First of all, his name was not 'thelonius' and secondly, this is all
>bullshit...I am so sick and tired of this type of crap ending up on the
>newsgroup when people talk about him (it was 1989 btw dipshit). You
>people that go after members like this must have a pretty pathetic life.
>Unless you've walked in the shoes of a soloist of his caliber (and believe
>me he NAILED that solo everytime I saw him on tour) you should keep your
>mouth shut. Or at the very least, talk about what happened with some
>respect. Your 'facts' are total gossip and unsubstantiated. I knew Dan
>very well from my last year in BD (86) and he was a great guy and I knew
>he would turn into a fabulous player. I wish people would remember him
>from the totality of his playing and not just from one 'gaff' at finals.
>Show some respect, ok?
>
>Mike Collins
>
>
hold up a second there mike...i was not disrespecting anyone. i think you got
the wrong idea and have blown this out of proportion. that guy which i referred
to named thelonius...wasn't that his nickname or something? i marched for
mandarins from 84-93, so we saw CA corps all summer long. all i know is all
year long, we idiolized that guy cuz you are right, he nailed those solos all
year long. he was an awesome soloists and i personally know he was a great
guy...he used to chat with us all the time after the shows. but i got that info
from one of your members the following year when we all asked what happened cuz
we were so surprised at how he played that night, so it wasn't like one of
those crazy ass rumors or anything. but thanks for clearing up the year thing
for me. and i would appreciate it if you don't call me dipshit, unless i was
actually intending to act like one.
darryl =0)
GArmani42
secondly mike, i don't remember the 80's much cuz all my 80's dci videos are on
beta and my beta machine is broken, so i couldn't remember exactly what they
played in 88. but to make you understand why i brought that question up, i will
explain. many people have been including 88 bd on their lists of all-time top
10's. i wanted to see if that was the year he screwed up because i was going to
say that it's kool that people would overlook a normally awesome soloist's one
bad show and still include it on their list. many would just say, "hey, that
would've been a great year if the soloist didn't crack like crazy" or somehting
like that. then i would think it's jacked up, so i understand your anger. but
sorry if my wording made it seem like i was trying to reem him, but i'm not ken
starr.
darryl =0)
Scott Gordon
1965 Royal Airs
1971 Argonne Rebels
1975 Madison Scouts
1980 Spirit of Atlanta
1984 Garfield Cadets
1988 Blue Devils
1989 Phantom Regiment
1991 Star of Indiana
Hey Z!
Not taking anything away from star, but it didn't sit in my mind as anythng
unique among the best.
Brass Fan
MOFLOBY <mof...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199809151341...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> what about STAR 91!!!!!!!!!!!!
>