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gregg

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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My favorite Drum Major of all time as the gentleman who led the Seneca
Optimists of Toronto, Canada in 1977 (Tied for 9th place with Capital
Freelancers... 82.40). I sure wish I knew his name. I think his first
name was Joel (?). If anyone knows his identity, please let me know.

Tall, dignified and commanding; he represented the ideal D.M. in my
opinion. A few years later, a friend compared my own conducting style to
that excellent Drum Major from the Optimists.

He had a terrific "stage presence," and wonderful hand gestures. The corps
followed his every move.

This Drum Major was memorable not only for his excellence, but also for his
ethnicity. He was a black man conducting a DCI Finalist Corps. That was a
rarity during the 1970s.

The corps' performance from that year is still in included frequently in
video montages. The image of the entire corps hiding beneath a huge
parachute is unforgettable.


Anyone else have a favorite Drum Major?

Gregg Wynn
Drum Major, '76ers of Syracuse, NY(1977 & 1978)--
gr...@954access.net

ADCARLISLE

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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I think Mark Horrigan(sp?) of the Phantom Regiment (89) kicked butt and didn't
have time to take names...You want to talk about someone who had command...this
is the guy. I've also got to say hats off to Kristi Spears!!!! She may not be
the best conductor of all time but she definatly gets my vote for honorable
mention...

Chris Newton
Phantom Regiment 93
CorpsVets 98- till the first shovel of dirt hits my face

LL008

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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My favorite drum major by far is Bob Gwinn (sp??) of Madison Scouts. He is the
biggest hass i have ever seen. Does anyone know if he's aged our or not?

Stephen 008

It's not a trumpet, it's a bloody euphonium!!!

Carolina Crown 97
Bayou City Blues 98

Cheezhed8

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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>My favorite drum major by far is Bob Gwinn (sp??) of Madison Scouts.

Bob Guinn only was a good drum major because the years he was major (97 and
98), the Madison Scouts had good shows (Pirates of Lake Mendota and Power,
Pizazz, and All That Jazz). Even though it was cool what he did in 97 at the 28
second hold in finals, he still isn't the best ever in drum corps.

~Mike Fedyszyn
chee...@aol.com

Ttrevan

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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>Anyone else have a favorite Drum Major?

hands down... becky woods (i think that was her last name) of star of indiana.
classy woman, great conductor, respected leader. she aged out a year (maybe
two) before star won their championship. too bad...cuz she deserved to lead a
corps to a first place finish.

CRBPCB

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Tom McClellan (sp?)
DM of the Des Plaines Vanguard 72 & 73
By far the most charismatic DM I have ever seen.
Pete Bond

Geoff

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Mike,

Did you read the subject? Favorite drum majors, not best. They are not the
same. Sky Ryders 1988 sound of music show is one of my all-time favorites,
but it certainly wasn't the best.

As for my favorite drum majors, have to give to both Roderick Saunders and
your pal and mine, Nikk Pilato. I had a blast marching under these two!!

Poodle

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Prsop98

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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>Anyone else have a favorite Drum Major?
>
>

Well without a doubt I would have to say that the best DM I have ever had the
honor of working with is the DM's of the 98 Phantom Regiment, Steven Moss and
Tommy Feagin. They were not just great DM's but great people all around. Always
doing there best to make the corps better than the day before. And without a
doubt the nicest people that I have ever met. Not like the usual ,"Im DM and
your just a measly member attitude". They felt as if they were equal to the
rest of the corps. And I feel as if this is the most essential part of any
corps.

David Gilday
Phantom Regiment Soprano 98,99,...???
David Gilday
Phantom Regiment Soprano 98,99,...???

DrumboyR

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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>My favorite is Rod Saunders, Regiment 94 and 95 (no offense, Nikk, if you're
>reading this). He had excellent command of the corps, especially during
>Claire de Lune. And he's a great guy.
>

i couldn't agree with you more!!!!!

mold...@gac.edu

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My favorite is Rod Saunders, Regiment 94 and 95 (no offense, Nikk, if you're
reading this). He had excellent command of the corps, especially during
Claire de Lune. And he's a great guy.

Any of the vets from those years will always remember Rod's breakfast and
weather reports bright and early every morning.

Michael Oldemeyer
Phantom Regiment 94,6,8.
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LL008

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Snip:

> Even though it was cool what he did in 97 at the 28
>second hold in finals, he still isn't the best ever in drum corps.

Hey dillhole, I didn't say best, I said my favorite. Make sure you are aware
of everything going on before you go and tell them that their opinion is
wrong...Get a clue.

Rmg JRL

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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His name is John....he was DM in 71 & 72 . I was a member and he was truly a
wonderful and respected leader.
Gina Guare

Vcoli3

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Ok.... I'm going to date myself a bit here (of course, some of you already
have!!ha ha!!).

My favorites:

John Climer: Bluecoats '78. Great "command" voice.
Mike Zapanta: SCV 1980; 81. "Ahead" of his time in DM category for
that point in corpsdom.
Marcia Hanson: Phantom Regiment 1984; 85.
Milt (don't know his last name): Sky Ryders 1982; 83; 84.
Mary Doolittle: Seattle Imperials: 1980; 81.

VC


MREGAN5473

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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How about the Blue Devils in 92. Al Go. He was the man. Any one remember him


Carnegie01

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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A lot of the guys around here love Kristy Spears from Phantom Regiment. I
wonder why? lol

~Jennifer
Phila, PA

Fugipoet

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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Do you mean Ashley Tappan? I don't remember a Becky Woods, but that doesn't
necessarily mean there wasn't one.....

Fugipoet

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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Dadgum. Forgot to quote again.

Do you mean Ashley Tappan?>hands down... becky woods (i think that was her


last name) of star of
>indiana.
> classy woman, great conductor, respected leader. she aged out a year (maybe
>two) before star won their championship. too bad...cuz she deserved to lead
>a
>corps to a first place finish.

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RufusLeaky

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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THere was this kid from The Boston Crusaders in 85, 86 that was pretty cool. HE
was about 5'8" and he had to wear this uniform from a drum major from the early
70's that was about 6'6".
He always did something interesting during the shows, retreats, or parades.
wasn't much of a conductor though.

Prsop98

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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im just glad no one has said James Gulke. Hes such an a$$ hole!!!

Andy Smith

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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Personally, I'd have to say that Bob Guinn was my favorite, but then
again I'm probably biased becasue he conducted my show music this past
summer.
Al Go from '92 BD and John David Mayo from Bluecoats were also two of my
favorites. Not only were they great conductors, but they also had a lot
of energy and showmanship, something a lot of drum majors don't really
have anymore.


A.Ruymgaard

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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It's the person that counts ! Not the "uniform"
Altough it was perfect made for her !

Andre from Europe
Beatrix 1990-1994
Joint Adventure 1995-???????

G29100150

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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Hey, how about Joe Reighart (spelling?) from the Cadets 94 & 95?

Ulek

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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74' Madison Scouts

MadDAD

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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the 70's...80's...90's.....still going ( no not the bunny) JIMMY RUSSO
Hawthorne Caballeros

Coriandnik

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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>Favorite Drum Majors?

Ok, I am starting to feel old here....is everyone too young to remember the
great drum majors of all time??

First and foremost... George Parks of the Reading Buccaneers, he has set the
standard by which all drum majors are measured.

Butch Anderson... of the New York Skyliners......Sky has put out a bunch of
great showman as drum majors....Walt Wink.....Conga....but I think Butch takes
the cake.

Pepe Notaro always put on a good show too.....and yes we can't forget Jimmy
Russo who is STILL marching.

Please tell me that you have at least heard these names before so that I know
I'm completly ancient!!...Nicko

sam

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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MadDAD wrote:
>
> the 70's...80's...90's.....still going ( no not the bunny) JIMMY RUSSO
> Hawthorne Caballeros

Daemon Williams, SCV '95-'97. Classy Vanguard exelence.

TConn97018

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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How about Jim (Stokie) Stokinger of the Boston Crusaders 66 - 70. And Franny
Haynes of Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights the same era.

John Caspers

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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"Big Daddy" Dave Richards - 1970 Boys of 76
Gary "Learch" Wright - 1980-83 Spirit of 76, 1994-96 Kilties Sr.

krus...@my-dejanews.com

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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In article <19981121200608...@ng112.aol.com>,

fugi...@aol.com (Fugipoet) wrote:
> Do you mean Ashley Tappan? I don't remember a Becky Woods, but that doesn't
> necessarily mean there wasn't one.....
>

Glad to know that there was a Becky Woods, even if YOU don't remember one.
<LMAO> For those of you too lazy to do your homework but anxious to jump in
the thread, Becky was DM from 86 through 88 and Ashley followed in 89 and 90.
Both of them were wonderful conductors and, more importantly, terrific
people.

Count me as a big fan (and lucky enough to be a friend) of both young ladies.

Karen

SkyAlumni

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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coria...@aol.com (Coriandnik) wrote:

>Ok, I am starting to feel old here....is everyone too young to remember the
>great drum majors of all time??
>
>First and foremost... George Parks of the Reading Buccaneers, he has set the
>standard by which all drum majors are measured.

Obviously you are a member of the Reading Buccaneers. <G>

>Butch Anderson... of the New York Skyliners......

Great showman.....marched as his Assistant DM 1977 and 78.

Sky has put out a bunch of
>great showman as drum majors....Walt Wink.....

This is where you make reference to the "Greatest Ever".....Walter "Wink"
Winkleman....marched as his Assistant DM in 1967 and 68.

>Conga....

You mean Ray "Conga" Richardson.Great field DM, but conducting ability is
suspect, no offense intended Ray. <G>



but I think Butch
>takes
>the cake.

My preference would be "Wink", but hey, they were both in a class by
themselves.


>
>Pepe Notaro always put on a good show too.....

Especially when he imitated Parks by trying to his Mace into the turf. <G>

and yes we can't forget Jimmy
>Russo who is STILL marching.
>
>Please tell me that you have at least heard these names before so that I know
>I'm completly ancient!!...Nicko

You young "whipper-snapper" you. What about:

Corky Fabrizio - Syracuse Brigadiers
Wally Curtis - Norman Prince Princemen
"Wild" Bill Hooton - Reilly Raider, Yankee-
Rebels, Skyliners (to name a few)
Jim McConkey
And the list goes on, and on, and on......

Michael T. Siglow
Madonna 1953-64
Skyliners Nov. 11, 1964-70,75-78,92
Skyliners Alumni Corps Nov. 1993 til ?
Archer-Epler Musketeers 97- ?
"It's not what a person accomplishes in life that matters,
it's what a person overcomes, that's what counts."

Steve Sorrell

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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krus...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>Count me as a big fan (and lucky enough to be a friend) of both young ladies.

>Karen


And count me in as a Karen Ruschman fan (Bridgemen 84 and Star 85)!!!

Also, I enjoyed being co-drum majors and friends with Marcia Hansen
(PR 84 and 85), Craig Mason (Scouts 84 and 85), Robert Maynard
(Suncoast 84), Rich Armstrong (Cadets 84 and 85), and Tom W. (Troopers
84 and 85). I respected the job that each of those guys and gals did.


Steve


Jack Bornstein

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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In article <73ccok$m3c$1...@camel21.mindspring.com>,

steves...@mindspring.com (Steve Sorrell) wrote:
>And count me in as a Karen Ruschman fan (Bridgemen 84 and Star 85)!!!
>
>Also, I enjoyed being co-drum majors and friends with Marcia Hansen
>(PR 84 and 85), Craig Mason (Scouts 84 and 85), Robert Maynard
>(Suncoast 84), Rich Armstrong (Cadets 84 and 85), and Tom W. (Troopers
>84 and 85). I respected the job that each of those guys and gals did.

Steve-
I always thought YOU were one hell of a good DM. And I'm not just sucking up!
-Jack

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Tom & Karen Peashey

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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I can always count on you to chime in with what I'm thinking Ron...

But I'll add that in all my years I never saw anyone have better control of
the program on the field than Beth Fabrizio... Many times I saw her
perform miracles holding things together... (or unfortunately having to
pull things back together...) Like Dad, a true conductor...

Tom Peashey


Ron Allard wrote in message <365a020c...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...


>skya...@aol.com (SkyAlumni) wrote:
>
>>>Please tell me that you have at least heard these names before so that I
know
>>>I'm completly ancient!!...Nicko
>>
>>You young "whipper-snapper" you. What about:
>>
>>Corky Fabrizio - Syracuse Brigadiers
>>Wally Curtis - Norman Prince Princemen
>>"Wild" Bill Hooton - Reilly Raider, Yankee-
>>Rebels, Skyliners (to name a few)
>>Jim McConkey
>>And the list goes on, and on, and on......
>

>Yep...
>
>I'd add Don Carroccio (Brigs)
>and Alan Smythe (Cru) as well...
>
>
>--
>Ron in Vegas
>mailto:ron.a...@att.net
>
>"Because there was always something about the Skyliners...
>and that music..."
>- Donnie Solinger
>
>Corpsreps.com - The Drum Corps Repertoire Database
>http://www.corpsreps.com

Scvmello97

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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Damon Williams SCV (95-97)

MarkJnstne

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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I'm partial to Milt Allen of the Sky Ryders '81-'82. And Mike Zapanta was
pretty cool as SCV's DM in the early '80's too. And don't forget Steve Sanger
of BD!

Mark Johnstone
Sky Ryders '83-'88

Vinson

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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On 21 Nov 1998 01:41:03 GMT, ll...@aol.com (LL008) wrote:

>My favorite drum major by far is Bob Gwinn (sp??) of Madison Scouts. He is the
>biggest hass i have ever seen. Does anyone know if he's aged our or not?
>
yup bob's gone, and the new one has yet to be decided. the suspense is
killing me.

Vin

Vinson

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On 21 Nov 1998 19:08:21 GMT, mrega...@aol.com (MREGAN5473) wrote:

>How about the Blue Devils in 92. Al Go. He was the man. Any one remember him
>

that dude was the deal. He was spectacular.

Kristian Mark Twombly

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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Although not a *Drum Corps* Drum Major, Fred Fennell WAS a Drum Major in
Rochester before he went on to help define the modern wind ensemble...

I certainly never saw him as DM, but I have seen him since, and I would
say that his conducting was pretty darn good!

Trivializing...
Kristian Twombly

mik...@my-dejanews.com

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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In article <19981123140400...@ng57.aol.com>,

skya...@aol.com (SkyAlumni) wrote:
> coria...@aol.com (Coriandnik) wrote:
>
> >Ok, I am starting to feel old here....is everyone too young to remember the
> >great drum majors of all time??
> >

Is this limited to seniors?

If not, how about BS' Fran Haynes?

And the late great Richie Chirichella from Garfield?

And Blue Rock's Vicki Drummond?

Mike

ABarton167

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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George Parks...Reading Buccaneers...made the mace fly...

SW Fan
SOUTHWIND RULZ

DDoy42

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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i am going to have to give kudos to brad furlano...drum major for the blue
stars for 18 years straight. <hehe> if anyone knows that guy, tell him
darryl, former mandarins drum major, says hello.

darryl "garmani"

Humber College

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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Geoff, I think you were the greatest drum major, st. johns all the way
baby!!!!!!!!1
Emma

Geoff wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Did you read the subject? Favorite drum majors, not best. They are not the
> same. Sky Ryders 1988 sound of music show is one of my all-time favorites,
> but it certainly wasn't the best.
>
> As for my favorite drum majors, have to give to both Roderick Saunders and
> your pal and mine, Nikk Pilato. I had a blast marching under these two!!
>
> Poodle
>
> Cheezhed8 wrote in message <19981120222029...@ng33.aol.com>...


> >>My favorite drum major by far is Bob Gwinn (sp??) of Madison Scouts.
> >

> >Bob Guinn only was a good drum major because the years he was major (97 and
> >98), the Madison Scouts had good shows (Pirates of Lake Mendota and Power,
> >Pizazz, and All That Jazz). Even though it was cool what he did in 97 at
> the 28
> >second hold in finals, he still isn't the best ever in drum corps.
> >
> >~Mike Fedyszyn
> >chee...@aol.com


MenoMosso

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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I have had the pleasure to go to one of the George Parks camps. It was great.
George Parks takes the cake in my book for best corp DM. Can anyone tell me
there thoughts on the '98 Cadets DM?

Jon Boehmer
Drum Major
Gov. Thomas Johnson
1999

Yvonne

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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Tommy Feagin and Steven Moss.
(Regiment '98)
See you guys in a few days.

-Y


FrankAreMe

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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My favorites were:
1. Scott Paulson, Kilties (the best ever in Jr. corps)
2. The girl from the Cedarburg Thunderbolts around 1972
3. Jim Russo, Cabs
4. Al Brinker, Cavaliers
5. Chuck Bishop, Cab's Alum
6. Vicki Drummond, Blue Rock
7. Jim McIntyre, Troopers
8. Mac, Kilties
9. Anne Keller, Colts

I would list Jim McConkey of Archie, Winkie, Butch of Sky, and many others
except that I never got to see them live and only know them by their
outstanding reputations as being the all time greats.


Frank Schoenbach
McBaritone
Racine Kilties and Damn Proud of It!
Wea Winnea Bea Daunted!!


Dan S24103

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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Frankareme writes>>My favorites were:

1. Scott Paulson, Kilties (the best ever in Jr. corps)

Thank you I couldnt believe he was mentioned by only one person!

Another notable from the Midwest: I forget his name-He DMed Pioneers for about
3 0r 4 years during the 70s. The guy was a maniac! He used to backflip off the
podium.

Frank Something (Hispanic Name)

Dan S24103

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>Another notable from the Midwest: I forget his name-He DMed Pioneers for
>about
>3 0r 4 years during the 70s. The guy was a maniac! He used to backflip off
>the
>podium.
>
>Frank Something (Hispanic Name)
>
>
Just remembered! Frank Medrano

Fugipoet

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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>> Do you mean Ashley Tappan? I don't remember a Becky Woods, but that
>doesn't
>> necessarily mean there wasn't one.....
>>
>
>Glad to know that there was a Becky Woods, even if YOU don't remember one.
><LMAO> For those of you too lazy to do your homework but anxious to jump in
>the thread, Becky was DM from 86 through 88 and Ashley followed in 89 and 90.
> Both of them were wonderful conductors and, more importantly, terrific
>people.
>
>Count me as a big fan (and lucky enough to be a friend) of both young ladies.
>
>Karen

Yes, we should make all make it a goal in life to memorize the drum majors of
every corps since the dawn of time.....real important stuff. I threw that out
there because the original poster referred to the DM immediately prior to
Star's championship year. That was Ashley as I recall. I was hoping someone
would fill me in on Becky Woods in an adult fashion. Nonetheless Karen, I was
VERY impressed with your post and I stand in complete awe of you. <LMAO>

David W Eddleman

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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In article <19981121105949...@ng50.aol.com>,
vco...@aol.com (Vcoli3) wrote:

>Ok.... I'm going to date myself a bit here (of course, some of you already
>have!!ha ha!!).
>
>My favorites:
>
>John Climer: Bluecoats '78. Great "command" voice.
>Mike Zapanta: SCV 1980; 81. "Ahead" of his time in DM category for
> that point in corpsdom.
>Marcia Hanson: Phantom Regiment 1984; 85.
>Milt (don't know his last name): Sky Ryders 1982; 83; 84.
>Mary Doolittle: Seattle Imperials: 1980; 81.
>
>VC
>


David Eddleman, Cleveland Caballaros, 1976 Without a doubt!
Carol Eddleman

FrankAreMe

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dans24103 wrote:

>Thank you I couldnt believe he (Scott Paulson) was mentioned by only one
person!

It's a shame isn't it. Many of the DM's until they started standing on podiums
were actually showmen and showomen instead of today's human metronomes with no
showmanship except for taking a baton out of their back or sleeve and then
smiling at the audience cause they somehow think that's cool.


Dan S24103

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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Actually it was Larry Medrano

John Caspers

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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Great list Frank! A few comments.

FrankAreMe wrote:
>
> My favorites were:
> 1. Scott Paulson, Kilties (the best ever in Jr. corps)

GREAT showman, but not the best director in his own era.
But he didn't need to be. The Kilts could play their show
with their eyes closed in those days :-)

> 2. The girl from the Cedarburg Thunderbolts around 1972

The Kristy Spears of her day! BTW, last week I voted
for the 1972 Cederburg Thunderbolts color guard in the
"Hottest Guard" thread :-)

> 3. Jim Russo, Cabs

I'd put him at number one!

> 4. Al Brinker, Cavaliers
> 5. Chuck Bishop, Cab's Alum

Oozes Cab class!

> 6. Vicki Drummond, Blue Rock
> 7. Jim McIntyre, Troopers

YES!

> 8. Mac, Kilties

Highly under rated. A fine musician, director, and one
of the best pipers around! Mac marched in the junior
Kilites, was a charter member of Kitlies Sr. and is:
"the proudest man to the proudest men"!

> 9. Anne Keller, Colts
>
> I would list Jim McConkey of Archie, Winkie, Butch of Sky, and many others
> except that I never got to see them live and only know them by their
> outstanding reputations as being the all time greats.
>
> Frank Schoenbach
> McBaritone
> Racine Kilties and Damn Proud of It!
> Wea Winnea Bea Daunted!!

I, too, realize that there are other greats that I have
never had the pleasure to witness. I would add the following
two to my all time list:

"Big Daddy" Dave Richards - 1970 Boys of 76
Gary "Learch" Wright - 1980-83 Spirit of 76

1995-97 Kilts

Both "showmen above and beyond the call of duty".

J.C.

mik...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <19981123082413...@ng-fc2.aol.com>,
tconn...@aol.com (TConn97018) wrote:
> How about Jim (Stokie) Stokinger of the Boston Crusaders 66 - 70. And Franny
> Haynes of Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights the same era.
>

Fran is on my list (see my earlier post). I think he may have used up his
'great DM' credits when he donned that silly bald wig for the horrible 'King
and I' show BS did in 72. Talk about a sad decline for a great corps!

He still one of MY favorites, though.

mik...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <19981125085537...@ng42.aol.com>,

Of course, doing back-flips and handstands to "To Tame the Perilous Skies",
"Year of the Dragon", and "Romeo and Juliet" would look pretty silly. :-)

And, our DM used a baton, way back in 70.

Mike, Garfield 70-72

FrankAreMe

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J.C. wrote about what I wrote:

>> 1. Scott Paulson, Kilties (the best ever in Jr. corps)
>
>GREAT showman, but not the best director in his own era.
>But he didn't need to be. The Kilts could play their show
>with their eyes closed in those days :-)

This is true, he was more of just a counter, but what a showman! No one else
has as many "Showman of the Year" awards.

>> 2. The girl from the Cedarburg Thunderbolts around 1972
>
>The Kristy Spears of her day! BTW, last week I voted
>for the 1972 Cederburg Thunderbolts color guard in the
>"Hottest Guard" thread :-)

hahaha well I think she was better than Kristy, but of course I was younger
then, had better eyesight (sort of) and usually watched her from behind! :)

>> 3. Jim Russo, Cabs
>
>I'd put him at number one!
>
>

me too......has anyone been DM longer for one corps??

>> 5. Chuck Bishop, Cab's Alum
>
>Oozes Cab class!

Plymouth show was the first time I saw him...great showman!!!

>> 8. Mac, Kilties
>
>Highly under rated. A fine musician, director, and one
>of the best pipers around! Mac marched in the junior
>Kilites, was a charter member of Kitlies Sr. and is: "the proudest man to the
proudest men"!

And can he belt out the commands! And his knowledge of Scottish hertitage is
incredible! I learned so much from him over the weekend in Plymouth!

>"Big Daddy" Dave Richards - 1970 Boys of 76
>Gary "Learch" Wright - 1980-83 Spirit of 76
> 1995-97 Kilts

oh yeah, I remember Dave at the State Fair Show in 1970---he could definately
get down and into the show and Learch, what more needs to be said!

Ulek

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>
>>> 2. The girl from the Cedarburg Thunderbolts around 1972
>>

Guess who picked her for drum major?
Bill Schultz (that's spelled s-h-i-t)(inside joke) an ex-Kiltie......we're ALL
pigs


FrankAreMe

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J.C. told the story of Old Man Lonergan:

snip


That must have been hillarious!!! Just another part of our history that
makes drum corps so great! :)

Frank

John Caspers

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I almost forgot to mention another one of my favorites:

Old Man Lonergan from the Boys of 76 in the 60's.

He had a fake wooden hand, the result of a war injury.
At his last performance in Racine at the Boys of 76
home show at Horlick Field, as he conducted the
final release of the closer, his fake wooden hand
flew off and into the mass of screaming fans in the
seats. After finishing his final salute to the crowd
(minus his hand), he turned back to the corps, smiled,
and his dentures fell out. :-)
The rest of the corps just about lost it in the end zone.

Rumor has it that his wife used to kid him:
"Darling, I'd love to love you, but you're scattered
everywhere." :-)

J.C.
Kilts

RDeschene

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On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:16:01 GMT, "gregg" <gr...@954access.net> wrote:

>Anyone else have a favorite Drum Major?
>
Joel Alleyne, famed drum major for the Oakland Crusaders, Toronto,
Ontario, Canada. I've not seen anyone like him before or since. IMO,
he was the best of the "showman"-type drum majors.

Sue

FrankAreMe

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LOL !!!!


but a really good baritone player he were!! :)


sai...@one.net

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JC...Nancy was looking over my shoulder and reading this post.....Laughing her
tushy off....saying it couldn't have happened...

Au Contrair!!!!!! I was at that show too!!
Nice kick in the memory bucket JC!!

Michael Kolle
Mc 3rd Baritone
Rule Britannia


Dennis Morris

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I remember a great DM From a Wisconsin Corps The Mariners(I think?) Saw them
in Emporium Pa. in 1970. Anybody remember the the details?

MarkJnstne

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>>Milt (don't know his last name): Sky Ryders 1982; 83; 84.

Actually, Milt Allen was the DM for 1981-82.
1983 saw Victor Mellinger, "The Italian Stallion", replace Milt. He had a
similar demeanor, though.
And in 1984, my best friend Greg "Pulsar" Hargrove held the beat. (He even came
up with a fake school he said he had started..."Pulsar's School of
Metronoming".

Mark Johnstone
Sky Ryders 1983-88

Ulek

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>
>I remember a great DM From a Wisconsin Corps The Mariners(I think?) Saw them
>in Emporium Pa. in 1970. Anybody remember the the details?
>

Joe Bruno..... aka Mister Announcer.... aka Captain Crunch..... my hero
growing up...
Remember one year at So. Milwaukee when Joe grounded his saber for concert and
the timing & penalty judge picked it up and gave him a tenth for dropped
equipment.


Vcoli3

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Mark:

Thank for the clarification.....

Vic C.


Ulek

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Does anyone remember the drum major for the Marion Cadets in '74 or '75? She
was a gorgeous blond with a short skirt that they put on an eye level
podium......guess where all the field judges hung out?


SkyAlumni

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Well,..... since we're naming EVERY DM that ever stood in front of ANY drum and
bugle corps, I think it only fitting that MY Junior corps DM's get the
recognition they earned just the same as EVERY OTHER DM is getting here.

Back when I was in grammar school and playing a single pistoned G-D bugle we
had Gene O'Connell as our drum major. I really can't say whether he was a good
DM or not, but he sure knew a lot of dirty songs and could sing them in Spanish
no less. <G> I remember the day that Father J.J. Donovan (the same priest who
started St. Andrew's Bridgemen, the forerunner to the Bayonne Bridgemen) told
us that Gene had been killed in Nam. That WAS hard to take.

And then the guy who replaced him, Joe Castrianni. He was cool too. His uncle
owned Callahan's, a famous hot dog stand in Fort Lee, N.J. and every once in a
while he'd treat us to hot dogs and a Yoo-Hoo. <G> And later on when I became
of age to imbibe, his father owned one of the "better" taverns in town, a place
called the Fireside Inn where I had my first "legal" drink of alcohol. Got it
"on the house" too because I had marched with his son in Madonna. <G>

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. LOL

Say, what about the DM's from the Blousemen and the Toileteer. Hey Ronnie,
who's the DM for the Dicemen. <G>

Michael T. Siglow
Madonna 1953-64
Skyliners Nov. 11, 1964-70,75-78,92
Skyliners Alumni Corps Nov. 1993 til ?
Archer-Epler Musketeers 97- ?
"It's not what a person accomplishes in life that matters,
it's what a person overcomes, that's what counts."

Eric Miller

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For all the wrong reasons.

Carnegie01 wrote:

> A lot of the guys around here love Kristy Spears from Phantom Regiment. I
> wonder why? lol
>
> ~Jennifer
> Phila, PA
>

DALE RIEBESEHL

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LL008 wrote:

> Snip:
> > Even though it was cool what he did in 97 at the 28
> >second hold in finals, he still isn't the best ever in drum corps.
>
> Hey dillhole, I didn't say best, I said my favorite. Make sure you are aware
> of everything going on before you go and tell them that their opinion is
> wrong...Get a clue.
>
> Stephen 008
>
> It's not a trumpet, it's a bloody euphonium!!!
>
> Carolina Crown 97
> Bayou City Blues 98

Well said brother! Gotta think that big Kiltie DM that partied with you in
Kenosha and got 4 county squads called was pretty much a favorite!!! :) :) :) !!!


DALE RIEBESEHL

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FrankAreMe wrote:

> My favorites were:


> 1. Scott Paulson, Kilties (the best ever in Jr. corps)

> 2. The girl from the Cedarburg Thunderbolts around 1972

> 3. Jim Russo, Cabs
> 4. Al Brinker, Cavaliers

> 5. Chuck Bishop, Cab's Alum

> 6. Vicki Drummond, Blue Rock
> 7. Jim McIntyre, Troopers

> 8. Mac, Kilties
> Thanks dude, got at least one vote!!! :)

Mack.

> 9. Anne Keller, Colts
>
> I would list Jim McConkey of Archie, Winkie, Butch of Sky, and many others
> except that I never got to see them live and only know them by their
> outstanding reputations as being the all time greats.
>

DALE RIEBESEHL

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John Caspers wrote:

> Great list Frank! A few comments.
>

> FrankAreMe wrote:
> >
> > My favorites were:
> > 1. Scott Paulson, Kilties (the best ever in Jr. corps)
>

> GREAT showman, but not the best director in his own era.
> But he didn't need to be. The Kilts could play their show
> with their eyes closed in those days :-)
>

> > 2. The girl from the Cedarburg Thunderbolts around 1972
>

> The Kristy Spears of her day! BTW, last week I voted
> for the 1972 Cederburg Thunderbolts color guard in the
> "Hottest Guard" thread :-)
>

> > 3. Jim Russo, Cabs
>
> I'd put him at number one!
>

> > 4. Al Brinker, Cavaliers
> > 5. Chuck Bishop, Cab's Alum
>

> Oozes Cab class!


>
> > 6. Vicki Drummond, Blue Rock
> > 7. Jim McIntyre, Troopers
>

> YES!


>
> > 8. Mac, Kilties
>
> Highly under rated. A fine musician, director, and one
> of the best pipers around! Mac marched in the junior
> Kilites, was a charter member of Kitlies Sr. and is:
> "the proudest man to the proudest men"!
>

Thanks dude, I got 2 votes now!!! :)

MackDaddy.

> > 9. Anne Keller, Colts
> >
> > I would list Jim McConkey of Archie, Winkie, Butch of Sky, and many others
> > except that I never got to see them live and only know them by their
> > outstanding reputations as being the all time greats.
> >
> > Frank Schoenbach
> > McBaritone
> > Racine Kilties and Damn Proud of It!
> > Wea Winnea Bea Daunted!!
>

> I, too, realize that there are other greats that I have
> never had the pleasure to witness. I would add the following
> two to my all time list:
>

> "Big Daddy" Dave Richards - 1970 Boys of 76
> Gary "Learch" Wright - 1980-83 Spirit of 76
> 1995-97 Kilts
>

Robert Glaub

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On Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:51:48 -0600, John Caspers
<jpca...@ra.ockwell.com> wrote:


>> 2. The girl from the Cedarburg Thunderbolts around 1972
>
>The Kristy Spears of her day! BTW, last week I voted
>for the 1972 Cederburg Thunderbolts color guard in the
>"Hottest Guard" thread :-)
>

That was Kathryn Koszewski (now Hoppe).

Robert Glaub
rwg...@smart.net
http://www.smart.net/~rwglaub

Robert Glaub

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On Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:58:12 GMT, David W Eddleman
<ded...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


>>John Climer: Bluecoats '78. Great "command" voice.
>>Mike Zapanta: SCV 1980; 81. "Ahead" of his time in DM category for
>> that point in corpsdom.
>>Marcia Hanson: Phantom Regiment 1984; 85.

>>Milt (don't know his last name): Sky Ryders 1982; 83; 84.

>>Mary Doolittle: Seattle Imperials: 1980; 81.

>


> David Eddleman, Cleveland Caballaros, 1976 Without a doubt!
> Carol Eddleman

Mary Doolittle was the Guard Captain for Seattle. Jill Hudson was the
DM.

DALE RIEBESEHL

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Ron Allard wrote:

> skya...@aol.com (SkyAlumni) wrote:
>
> >
> >Say, what about the DM's from the Blousemen and the Toileteer. Hey Ronnie,
> >who's the DM for the Dicemen. <G>
>

> We're negotiating with Lance Burton, but nothing's been signed yet...
> Heh...
>
> --
> Ron in Vegas
> mailto:ron.a...@att.net
>
> "Because there was always something about the Skyliners...
> and that music..."
> - Donnie Solinger
>
> Corpsreps.com - The Drum Corps Repertoire Database
> http://www.corpsreps.com

OK, here's my two picks--Mark Kopang, VK during the early finals years (a
human metronome--always exactly in time) and Time Andriese, SCV mid 80's.(a
personal drinking buddy of mine).

PM Dale MacKinley Riebesehl, Racine Kilties DM since '94


Vkdm8687

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My favorite drum majors of all time were

TIM ANDRIESE....SCV 86 and 87
Not only was he a god o' drum majoring, but he was really a friendly person.
Great being drum major of another California corps while he was around...

BRADY???....SKYRYDERS 87 and 88
Probably one of the friendliest easy going drum majors I have ever met. He was
really a great guy and watch the 88 Sound of Music show...great control.

ELLIS CARTER III...VK 88
Yes, one of THE greatest drum majors VK ever had.

BILL PRICE...VK 89???...90....91....?????
The "other" black drum major after Ellis...GREAT conductor and a great
showman!!

CARL ALLISON....FREELANCERS 82,83,84???
I happened to be in town and "stumbled" literally upon a Freelancer rehearsal
in the summer of 1983 at Sacramento State. As I was drum major of my high
school band down home, I thought I knew something about drum majoring. I
didn't know squat. I never met the man, but boy, since that day, I was a big
fan of his! WHAT COMMAND!! Great man....

GREG MAR...MANDARIN 87
Another great California corps with another great California drum major. And
he is still around judging and teaching and giving back to the activity. Great
drum major...

I also know a couple of drum majors whom I could NOT stand. But of course,
I'll have to keep that to myself. But I will tell you what side of the country
HE was from.....THE RIGHT COAST!! And boy was he full of himself....

ANY GUESSES!!!???? Let's just say he knows how to conduct in 7 real well....

'Nuff said....

Ryan H. Turner
VK Drum Major 86 and 87

Greg and Lisa Rochford

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Vkdm8687 wrote:
>
> My favorite drum majors of all time were
>
> Ryan H. Turner
> VK Drum Major 86 and 87


RYAN!! How could you?! You forgot ME!!!

See ya Saturday! Take care!

Greg Rochford
Drum Major
Santa Ana Winds 80 and 81
Kingsmen 83


DDoy42

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>My favorite drum majors of all time were
>
>TIM ANDRIESE....SCV 86 and 87

u are the man...tim was the best!!!

>GREG MAR...MANDARIN 87

unfortunately ryan, you lost me there. hahaha...i'm just kidding.

darryl =0)

Vkdm8687

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>RYAN!! How could you?! You forgot ME!!!
>
>See ya Saturday! Take care!
>
>Greg Rochford
>Drum Major
>Santa Ana Winds 80 and 81
>Kingsmen 83

OH BOY!!! You got me!! Sorry...but as much as I hate to say it...wasn't that
a little "before" my time....LOL!!!!

Thanks Greg...


Ryan H. Turner
MARCHING BAND, DRUM CORP, WINTER GUARD LOVING GUY!!
Sunny, southern California....

krus...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <73ccok$m3c$1...@camel21.mindspring.com>,
steves...@mindspring.com (Steve Sorrell) wrote:
> krus...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >Count me as a big fan (and lucky enough to be a friend) of both young ladies.
>
> >Karen
>
> And count me in as a Karen Ruschman fan (Bridgemen 84 and Star 85)!!!
>
> Also, I enjoyed being co-drum majors and friends with Marcia Hansen
> (PR 84 and 85), Craig Mason (Scouts 84 and 85), Robert Maynard
> (Suncoast 84), Rich Armstrong (Cadets 84 and 85), and Tom W. (Troopers
> 84 and 85). I respected the job that each of those guys and gals did.
>
> Steve
>
>

I'm delighted to return the compliment. Steve was not only a terrific DM, but
a heck of a nice guy and a good friend to turn to in what were sometimes crazy
times.

What some of the posters may not realize is how different the jobs of each of
these DMs were. Some had the primary (sometimes only) function of conducting
the corps on the field, others were extensions of the instructional staff,
while still others were involved intimately in the day to day minutiae of
running the corps. Good people all, and very good at their jobs.

Karen

krus...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <19981124235755...@ng-fa1.aol.com>,
fugi...@aol.com (Fugipoet) wrote:
> >> Do you mean Ashley Tappan? I don't remember a Becky Woods, but that
> >doesn't
> >> necessarily mean there wasn't one.....
> >>
> >
> >Glad to know that there was a Becky Woods, even if YOU don't remember one.
> ><LMAO> For those of you too lazy to do your homework but anxious to jump in
> >the thread, Becky was DM from 86 through 88 and Ashley followed in 89 and 90.
> > Both of them were wonderful conductors and, more importantly, terrific
> >people.

> >
> >Count me as a big fan (and lucky enough to be a friend) of both young ladies.
> >
> >Karen
>
> Yes, we should make all make it a goal in life to memorize the drum majors of
> every corps since the dawn of time.....real important stuff. I threw that out
> there because the original poster referred to the DM immediately prior to
> Star's championship year. That was Ashley as I recall. I was hoping someone
> would fill me in on Becky Woods in an adult fashion. Nonetheless Karen, I was
> VERY impressed with your post and I stand in complete awe of you. <LMAO>

Thanks, Mr. Fugipoent. Nothing starts off your Monday morning quite like
knowing that anonymous people are in awe of you. Truly a terrific feeling and
I think I'll be able to float along without a second cup of coffee.

I'm sorry that my post doesn't measure up to your adult standards. Now stop
your sniveling like a good little boy and get back to life.

bobke...@gmail.com

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On Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, gregg wrote:
> My favorite Drum Major of all time as the gentleman who led the Seneca
> Optimists of Toronto, Canada in 1977 (Tied for 9th place with Capital
> Freelancers... 82.40). I sure wish I knew his name. I think his first
> name was Joel (?). If anyone knows his identity, please let me know.
>
> Tall, dignified and commanding; he represented the ideal D.M. in my
> opinion. A few years later, a friend compared my own conducting style to
> that excellent Drum Major from the Optimists.
>
> He had a terrific "stage presence," and wonderful hand gestures. The corps
> followed his every move.
>
> This Drum Major was memorable not only for his excellence, but also for his
> ethnicity. He was a black man conducting a DCI Finalist Corps. That was a
> rarity during the 1970s.
>
> The corps' performance from that year is still in included frequently in
> video montages. The image of the entire corps hiding beneath a huge
> parachute is unforgettable.
>
>
> Anyone else have a favorite Drum Major?
>
> Gregg Wynn
> Drum Major, '76ers of Syracuse, NY(1977 & 1978)--
> gr...@954access.net

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