cavaliers splooooie??
King K 20
very unprofessional and rude and yell splooie in the middle of the show. can't
wait to hear that one on the cd's. bet the member's of the glassmen really
loved that one. cavies didn't get penalized or anything. hmm...... could
have waited till it was your turn to go on.
Tedrick
there was a time in drum corps when you'd have gotten penalized for that.
What's wrong with the judging system that the judges allow that to happen.
Why don't judges call penalties against stuff like that?
Sunrisor1
DO...And believe me, it's pretty gross...
clay johnson
Sunrisor1 wrote in message
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RDoran8728
SUTA, is gross and has been since the '60's.
One reason why I have not been a huge fan
of either corps.
BDoran
Royal Air Alum
Viscount Alum
Ler Contra
Mark Fosdick
LER 1997 Baritone
LER 1998-? Contra
No matter what anyone says Division II/III rules!!
fo...@penn.com
God Bless
RDoran8728 wrote in message
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Nikk Pilato
> Yes, the Cavie "Splooie", like the PR
> SUTA, is gross and has been since the '60's.
> One reason why I have not been a huge fan
> of either corps.
I won't pretend to know what "splooie" means, that is only for
Cavaliers to know and should stay that way, but you are way off base with
the SUTA thing. If you think it is something nasty or gross, you've been
listening to too many rumors, and this is not a solid reason for not being
a fan of either corps.
+++++++++++
Nikk Pilato
Phantom Regiment 1991-1994
Conductor 1994
Tedrick
proud of hearing before their son marches onto the field....
Sunrisor1
again, so with that in mind...Of course, I was told what it means by a former
Cavalier, so it's pretty much a solid fact.
William Andrew Clayton
: Ok guys, if I tell you what splooie means, then NOBODY will ever join
: means by a former Cavalier, so it's pretty much a solid fact.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that former Cavalier was jerking your chain.
Cheers,
Andy Clayton
Cavaliers 94-5
MBTarr
Cavalier.
D. Aaron Matthews
NOLA Kent
> I won't pretend to know what "splooie" means, that is only for<BR>
>Cavaliers to know and should stay that way, but you are way off base with<BR>
>the SUTA thing. If you think it is something nasty or gross, you've been<BR>
>listening to too many rumors, and this is not a solid reason for not
>being<BR>
>a fan of either corps.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>+++++++++++<BR>
>Nikk Pilato<BR>
>Phantom Regiment 1991-1994<BR>
>Conductor 1994 <BR>
></HTML>
I agree. My college roommate was in Phantom's hornline while I was in Cavies,
yet we had the common sense not to inquire about the meaning of each others
corps "yell". We each knew that there was meaning attached that couldn't be
understood by those outside the organization. Similarly, any song identified
with a corps (Madison's "You'll Never Walk Alone", SCV's "Send in the Clowns",
etc.) represents a special link between current members of that corps and all
who preceded them. I did, and still do, respect the traditions unique to any
corps.
Kent
ScribeToo
>Cavaliers
>again, so with that in mind...Of course, I was told what it means by a former
>Cavalier, so it's pretty much a solid fact.
Doesn't it occur to you that the members might give you some hokey story in
order to preserve the brotherhood's secret? maybe it's just nothing.. but
everybody seems to THINK it's something really gross and really foul.. so
perpetuate what everyone thinks.. and move on..
On more than one occasion I have asked friends who are alums of the Cavaliers..
and on each occasion, I was told by both parties that he would not be able to
look his fellow corps members in the face ever again.. nor would he be able to
look himself in the mirror..
if you want to know.. . go march.. if you can't march.. learn to live with
the idea that you will never know..
Stefanie Kressaty
Staff Writer, Drum Corps World 1993 - present
Volunteer, West Coast Sound 1996 - present
"even the longest standing tradition was once a radical idea."
Jolson6060
>Cavalier, so it's pretty much a solid fact.
I shot J.F.K, what's your point?
Thanks to Nikk, Andy and others for some sanity.
John
NOLA Kent
>>, I was told what it means by a former<BR>
>>Cavalier, so it's pretty much a solid fact.<BR>
><BR>
>I shot J.F.K, what's your point?<BR>
><BR>
>Thanks to Nikk, Andy and others for some sanity.<BR>
><BR>
>John<BR>
></HTML>
So did I (shoot JFK), but I didn't know that the rifle I was tossing was
loaded. Oops.....
Kent
Steve Aylward
was on the field when this whole incident took place and I found it very
distracting, and I think Cavies should have been penalized.
Steve Aylward
Glassmen COntra Line 1998
VKGARRY73
>Cavalier, so it's pretty much a solid fact.
Any true Cavalier would never tell what "Splooie" really means. Even their
volunteers and staff, other than ex-Cavies, know. If this person was really an
ex-Cavalier, he was blowing smoke to fuel the fire. They are sworn to secrecy.
Let it be.
Garry
VK Percussion '70-'73
Fresno Ferns '72
VK Staff '80-'85
Dicemen '98
"We are the people our parents warned us about"
Tedrick
>with a corps (Madison's "You'll Never Walk Alone", SCV's "Send in the
Clowns",
>etc.) represents a special link between current members of that corps and
all
>who preceded them. I did, and still do, respect the traditions unique to
any
>corps.
>
>Kent
Well, it a corps song is one thing. A starting line yell or cheer is another
thing. It's unfair to the corps on the field when the "green machine" give
forth their (I personally think it is somehow sexually related and have
contacted Ken Starr to begin investigating it) splooie.
Would the Cavies appreciate having a corps performing after them do
something to distract the crowd away from their show?
ScribeToo
>something to distract the crowd away from their show?
>
>
Okay guys.. this has really gone too far, now..
do you HONESTLY think they lined up in the tunnel and yelled splooie to
INTENTIONALLY distract from glassmens' show?? I seriously doubt it..
Frankly, I would lay dollars to donuts that say the staff made a poor location
choice to give their final pep talk and have the corps yell Splooie.. and I
would further lay dollars to donuts that say the staff realized it a little too
late and probably would have made another choice had they realized it would
have made that much of an impact before hand.. surely they were concentrating
on what they had to do..
a mistake? yes.. an honest one..
get over it people.. nobody is that vindictive...
James C. Nevermann
> but you are way off base with
> the SUTA thing. If you think it is something nasty or gross, you've been listening to too many rumors
> +++++++++++
> Nikk Pilato
> Phantom Regiment 1991-1994
> Conductor 1994
Since when did SUTA get a different meaning? Is there now a `sanitized'
version of it?
Oh... horrors! :)
--
Jim Nevermann
PR drum instructor 1972-75
Jolson6060
>
>
Thank you. We yell that once the corps on the field is finished and were about
ready to step off. Mistakes happen for crying out loud. Why don't you people
quit your bitching and press on. If you think it was some vendictive plot
towards the Glassmen you really need to get a life and find something else to
worry about. If you think Splooie has anything to do with any sexual act or
function, you are a person who holds a senseless grudge that makes you look
ignorant. Shall I go on?
John
FHOlin
>Yes, the Cavie "Splooie", like the PR SUTA, is gross and has been since the
'60's.
Actually, we have been yelling it since the 50s, and I was sworn to secrecy
and have kept it...as I'm sure have most other former marching members. I've
been married 37 years, one month and 18 days, and she still doesn't know the
truth. Don't trust any Cavalier, past, present or future who tells you what it
(allegedly) means...he's putting you on bigtime. I was particularly amused by
the speculations seen here today.
Fred H. Olin
Cavaliers
Single valve baritone
1956-7-8
RDoran8728
and present to minimize. lol. I marched
with many former Cavies--some very
close friends--still do. Interesting how
they all explain the yell the same way. Was
the same "false descriptor" part of the plan
lo these 40 years? Wow--if all the Cavs I
know cover the truth with the same story, does not the cover story become the
truth?
(Psychology 101: Gordon W. Allport).
Methinks the alums do protest too much.
Reel Feel
>INTENTIONALLY distract from glassmens' show?? I seriously doubt it..
>
No I don't. However, if there was anyone with the organization that DIDN'T
know that another corps was playing at the time, I'd love to meet him and tell
him he's the least observant person in the history of unobservant people. Give
me a break. You're trying to make Cavaliers the victims here when they're not.
Matt
Ler Contra
luck. We have a couple of yells like YMD and RNP for my corps but they do
mean something so I can't tell anyone.
ScribeToo
being made..
HOWEVER.. there is NO need to make VILLAINS out of them either..
it's OBVIOUS that nobody did what they did intentionally.. it was a mistake.
Poor Judgement.. call it what you like.. but it was NOT intentional..
get off your high horse and join the rest of society with our feet on the
ground.
-Stefanie
ChrisGH
As a former marching member I have this to say. First, if our traditional
"yell" in any way dusturbed The performance of the Glassmen, I am most sure
that Jeff Fiedler and the rest of the Cavalier Org. is sorry. I was not there,
nor have I been a active part of this years corps. So, how do I know this? When
I was 15 yrs old and marching with the Cavaliers in 1981, I ( being a total
jerk, as 15yr olds tend to be) broke the ranks of another much smaller corps.
Jeff Fiedler was on our staff that year. Before the other corps in question
could respond I was grabbed by my own corps members and "taught" manners
towards other corps. A lesson I never forgot. Also, a lesson I helped teach in
later years. I will never believe that Jeff or any Cavalier/staff member would
break that "rule" regardless of DCI rules or any penalty they could suffer. The
Slpooie tradition, was done on the field after warm ups when I marched.
Personally, I like it better that way. However, The current members have the
right to do it when they want. Again, I am sure that they never would have done
it to intrude on Glassmen's performance or someone's enjoyment of it.
Second, (hehehehehehe) Why do you think it is a fraternity????????? We
pass along info down from one year to the next, this includes
misinformation!!!!!! I have been married for nine years, my wife has never
asked . So WHY ARE YOU!!!. I never asked why SUTA!! of my Phantom Friends.
Besides to you really think that if, as you assert, it is "gross" and that foul
it would have survived ??????????????????????????????????????
Finally, the only former- Cavaliers I know are dead, and even then they
are not ex-Cavaliers.
Chris
Grahn-Howard
A CAVALIER
1981-1985/1987
spri...@ncsu.edu
>
> >.Of course, I was told what it means by a former
> >Cavalier, so it's pretty much a solid fact.
>
> Any true Cavalier would never tell what "Splooie" really means. Even their
> volunteers and staff, other than ex-Cavies, know. If this person was really an
> ex-Cavalier, he was blowing smoke to fuel the fire. They are sworn to secrecy.
WHO CARES!
Jolson6060
Great post Chris!!
John
FMM 94-95
NOLA Kent
>Matt, if you read my ENTIRE post.. you would know that no victimization
>is<BR>
>being made.. <BR>
><BR>
>HOWEVER.. there is NO need to make VILLAINS out of them either.. <BR>
><BR>
>it's OBVIOUS that nobody did what they did intentionally.. it was a mistake.
><BR>
>Poor Judgement.. call it what you like.. but it was NOT intentional.. <BR>
><BR>
>get off your high horse and join the rest of society with our feet on the<BR>
>ground.<BR>
><BR>
>-Stefanie<BR>
></HTML>
Hmmm, better watch it, Stephanie....I'd hate you to get the reputation for
being a voice of reason around here! <G> Quick, say something unreasonable to
make up for it!!! LOL!
Kent
Cavie95
Yes, I too say that this post should be put to rest - to the non-Cavaliers here
on ramd, give it up - you'll never know unless you march and become a Cavalier,
and no Cavalier would ever tell anyone the real meaning - time for you
guys/gals to get a new hobby or life - you pick...
sorry for being a little PO'ed, but it's time to move on...
ECS
Aloha HS vis instructor 97-98
FMM Rosemont Cavaliers 1994-95 DCI World Champion
FMM Longview Marauders 1990-93
U Of Oregon 1992-94
Sunset HS 1989-92
{These views are mine alone, and do not represent the views of these or any
other organizations}
JTimmins
Splooie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
John Timmins
A Cavalier
ScribeToo
<<SARCASM ON>>
CAVALIERS SUCK A PHATTY
<<SARCASM OFF>>
how's that?? lol
(*)Stefanie
Terri Dittrich
ScribeToo
AGAIN>?> are you implying that I started it to begin with?? lol.. oh no..
not me..
(*)Stef
ScribeToo
>There goes *that* erotic dream...
>Heh...
>
>
>--
>Ron in Vegas
>mailto:ron.a...@att.net
... well... I started out with a clever comeback.. but hell, i just give
up!!
YOU WIN RON!!
(*)Stef
722772331 cservecom
Luckyjason
at one show but we didn't get pissed because it's dreum corps and that's
life........... so chill out............
jay
MIKE DUFFY
ScribeToo wrote:
> >(Sigh)
> >There goes *that* erotic dream...
> >Heh...
> >
> >
> >--
> >Ron in Vegas
> >mailto:ron.a...@att.net
>
> ... well... I started out with a clever comeback.. but hell, i just give
> up!!
>
>
> (*)Stef
That would most assuredly be "A Guy Thing:-)"
"Viagra.......Be Assured!!!"
MIKE DUFFY
722772331 cservecom wrote:
> Minneapolis, 1962, bus.
Regina, 1968, bus station restroom, stall 3!
ScribeToo
>> >There goes *that* erotic dream...
>> >Heh...
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Ron in Vegas
>> >mailto:ron.a...@att.net
>>
>> ... well... I started out with a clever comeback.. but hell, i just
>give
>> up!!
>>
>>
>> (*)Stef
>
>That would most assuredly be "A Guy Thing:-)"
>
>
I have to tell you guys.. I am not sure how comfortable I am with this place in
y'all's lives... how did this turn into what it has become??
"just a part of the dream, I suppose..."
(*)Stef
ScribeToo
>place
>> in y'all's lives... how did this turn into what it has become??
>>
>> "just a part of the dream, I suppose..."
>>
>> (*)Stef
>
>Didn't mean to make you uncomfortable... I was just kiddin'!
>
>
forgot the smiley face.. I was just kiddin' too!!!
(*)Stef
Geoff65703
Luckyjason
Dar20
are the Cavaliers supposed to know that the Glassmen were doing their ballad?
The Cavaliers were just doing their pre-show routine, as was every other corps.
>how about in the middle of the glassmen's show when the cavies decided to be
>very unprofessional and rude and yell splooie in the middle of the show.
>can't
>wait to hear that one on the cd's. bet the member's of the glassmen really
>loved that one. cavies didn't get penalized or anything. hmm......
>could
>have waited till it was your turn to go on.
Dar
Colts '92
w/ a Cavie bro '93-'98
Dar20
>I don't know any former Cavaliers. Once you are a Cavalier you are always a
>Cavalier.
Dar20
Cavie will ever tell.
Dar20
corps was on the field. How could you not hear it??!?!? That stadium echoes
unbelievably!!
>You're trying to make Cavaliers the victims here when they're not.
Jason Lowe
>I have to tell you guys.. I am not sure how comfortable I am with this place in
>y'all's lives... how did this turn into what it has become??
Stef, how many times do I have to lecture you about the spelling of "ya'll"? You
west coasterners get it all wrong. It's not y'all. It's ya'll. If you're going
to try to talk like us southerners, at least spell it right for us. :-)
>"just a part of the dream, I suppose..."
>
>(*)Stef
Jason :-)
Jim Lister
>Again, ANYONE who was there knows that EVERY corps yelled while the previous
>corps was on the field. How could you not hear it??!?!? That stadium echoes
>unbelievably!!
>
And.... THEY ARE ALL ANOYING. Cavies included. They just happen to
get caught with there pants down. ;)
D. Aaron Matthews
term. So out of morbid curiosity what does your "ya'll" stand for?
XVKsxCym
finals.... one outside and one in a concert hall for those who don't want to
hear anything else.... sorta like a las Vegas wedding and a church wedding.....
Kelli
Velvet Knights Sop 89, Cymbals 90, 91
Luis M Sanchez
Just to set things straight.
SkyRyder30
>are the Cavaliers supposed to know that the Glassmen were doing their ballad?
>
>The Cavaliers were just doing their pre-show routine, as was every other
>corps.
>Dar
>Colts '92
>w/ a Cavie bro '93-'98
How were they suppose to know???? Simple. They were lined up to enter the
field next - which means, quite simply, there is another corps on the field
performing.
They should know that it's not acceptable to "SPLOOIE" until after the
announcer had said "The Glassmen from Toledo, Ohio", indicating their show was
over.
Cavies had how many competitions this summer? Their staff has how many years
of experience? How were they NOT suppose to know is a more appropriate
question.
Cavies screwed up - intentional or not - they screwed up - HUGE! Trying to
defend their incredibly thoughtless, rude, and inconsiderate behavior is
useless.
Tim Kviz
Sky Ryders 85-88
Various Others 78-84
Dennis E. Sparrow
MIKE DUFFY wrote in message <35E25E17...@att.net>...
>
>
>SkyRyder30 wrote:
>
>> They should know that it's not acceptable to "SPLOOIE" until after the
>> announcer had said "The Glassmen from Toledo, Ohio", indicating their show
was
>> over.
>
>
>> Cavies screwed up - intentional or not - they screwed up - HUGE! Trying to
>> defend their incredibly thoughtless, rude, and inconsiderate behavior is
>> useless.
>
Viagra in their water supply again?
MIKE DUFFY
Jolson6060
John
VKGARRY73
> sorta like a las Vegas wedding and a church wedding.....
Does a Las Vegas corps show require every corps to have an Elvis imitator on
the DM podium?
Ron A.?
heh....
VKG
FStegall
>DO...And believe me, it's pretty gross...
I know.......... ;-)
...and you are right!!
Floyd Stegall
Tour manager - several corps over several years....
Cochese472
true they did make a mistake.
>inconsiderate behavior
NO! They did not by any means do it on purpose. They had no grudge against
the G-men. So why pretend like Cav's delibrately tried to dis the glassmen?
Just a poor judgement call.
Cochese472
>>Does anyone in here that didn't march with Cavies know what splooie means? I
>>DO...And believe me, it's pretty gross...
>
>I know.......... ;-)
I doubt it!
Many times Cavaliers will make up stories about it to have fun with
non-Cavaliers. You are probably the victim of a joke. Every time you say you
know what it means , you add to the joke.
Dennis E. Sparrow
DJ11679 wrote in message:
>you know.......this topic has been on here for a week....GET OVER IT!
You know, lots of splooie for seven days makes one weak.
DS
DJ11679
SkyRyder30
OK - sorry, but I simply cannot take it any longer. Yes, I am anal retentive.
I'm an accountant - sue me. Blame it on my growing up under the tick system -
the relentless pursuit of perfection if you will.
Inconsiderate does not mean intentional. Check Websters - it means careless of
the rights or feelings of others, thoughtless, not adequately considered, etc.
How about this? Cavies did not adequately consider whether screaming "SPLOOIE"
on the top of their lungs while lining up to perform would have been disruptive
to glassmen's performance. Their heat of hte moment hpe was thoughtless, as it
did not consider the possible consequences. They exercised poor judgement
(your words).
Seems these are the arguments being presented - thus, their behavior was
inconsiderate.
I don't think I have read a single post where anyone has so much as insinuated
their actions were deliberate, or that they hold some kind of grudge against
the Glassmen. I'm just sick of people trying to justify this glaring error on
their part. A futile attempt to justify their actions and try and indicate
responsibilty for their actions was not theirs.
Ok - I've vented. I can go back to my other anal retentive habbits - like
counting the number of times someone says "Uh" in a presentation.
MIKE DUFFY
SkyRyder30 wrote:
> OK - sorry, but I simply cannot take it any longer. Yes, I am anal retentive.
Aren't we all, Tim, aren't we all!!
Let me see ..........Yup, Still Retaining Mine:-)
ScribeToo
>
>> OK - sorry, but I simply cannot take it any longer.
**Yes, I am anal retentive.**
>>
Does anybody realize when they use this particular term that IT is actually a
sexual fetish?
When someone is anally retentive, they derive an extreme sexual pleasure from
retaining "pooh" in their "woochie" almost to the point of pain (sometimes
beyond)...
I was just wondering if anybody else knew that...
sorry.. didn't mean to go off subject..
;)
Stef
Michael E. New
BratDawg
ScribeToo wrote:
<snip>...or is it......never mind....
> .....retaining "pooh" in their "woochie" .....
> ;)
> Stef
...just when you thought it was safe.......:-)
Steve
ScribeToo
>> ;)
>> Stef
>
>...just when you thought it was safe.......:-)
is it wrong to campaign for the "RAMD quote of the day" award??
lol..
(*)Stef
MIKE DUFFY
ScribeToo wrote:
> >SkyRyder30 wrote:
> >
> >> OK - sorry, but I simply cannot take it any longer.
>
> **Yes, I am anal retentive.**
> >>
>
> Does anybody realize when they use this particular term that IT is actually a
> sexual fetish?
"BUTT," meticulous posting with a rigid bent adds a "(W)HOLE" other meaning to the mix:-)
McFastidious
ps Please excuse while I tidy up my desk!!
Terri Dittrich
-Terri
Dennis E. Sparrow
> .....retaining "pooh" in their "woochie" .....
That's a classic!
Dennis "The WoochiePooh" Sparrow
Dennis E. Sparrow
ScribeToo wrote in message
>>> .....retaining "pooh" in their "woochie" .....
>>> ;)
>>> Stef
>>
>>...just when you thought it was safe.......:-)
>
>is it wrong to campaign for the "RAMD quote of the day" award??
>
>lol..
>
>(*)Stef
>
NO. One big vote from me
WoochiePooh
BratDawg
ScribeToo wrote:
> >> .....retaining "pooh" in their "woochie" .....
> >> ;)
> >> Stef
> >
> >...just when you thought it was safe.......:-)
>
> is it wrong to campaign for the "RAMD quote of the day" award??
>
> lol..
>
> (*)Stef
Here I sit all brokenhearted
Had to ......oh, never mind...
Hey, you got MY vote Stef...:-)
Steve
blue...@juno.com
wrote:
>
>
>ScribeToo wrote:
>
>> >> .....retaining "pooh" in their "woochie" .....
>> >> ;)
>> >> Stef
>> >
>>
>> is it wrong to campaign for the "RAMD quote of the day" award??
>>
>> lol..
>>
>> (*)Stef
>
>
>Hey, you got MY vote Stef...:-)
>
>Steve
>
>
Good work, Stef! but you blow "Quote of the Day" away.
How about RAMD Poster Child!
:-)
Brian Tingley
ScribeToo wrote:
> >SkyRyder30 wrote:
> >
> >> OK - sorry, but I simply cannot take it any longer.
>
> **Yes, I am anal retentive.**
> >>
>
> Does anybody realize when they use this particular term that IT is actually a
> sexual fetish?
>
> When someone is anally retentive, they derive an extreme sexual pleasure from
> retaining "pooh" in their "woochie" almost to the point of pain (sometimes
> beyond)...
>
> I was just wondering if anybody else knew that...
>
> sorry.. didn't mean to go off subject..
>
> ;)
> Stef
I thought it meant they had completed law school.
Gotta go....
Brian Tingley
MelloDad
