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Humber College

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Don't get me wrong I love it but it sucks.Let me put down some of the
reasons why I think it sucks.

1) Christmas parades.
I live in Ontario were it's not uncommon for a div2/3 corps to do
2-6 parades a weekend.I'm wearing next to nothing ,holding a big piece
of cold medal walking miles down the street on a super cold winter
day.Drummers can't wear glovesso their lives are sucking as much as
mine.After 1 parade we all get on a school bus and go do another and
another.It was my favorite reason to leave Ontario drum corps.

2)Money
We spend all this money on marching which alot of us can't afford.I'm
only marching my age out because someone else is paying for it.I don't
regret this but because I march I started College 2 years late(because
of money not smarts),I have no driving license(in Ontario it costs $600
to get it).Drum corps needs to be better financally.We all hear about
the corps that doesn't feed fit's members by the end of tour because
they can't afford to.This happens alot.

3)The summer.
This is the time of year we all wait for.In the summer I've raised the
risk of skin cancer more and more.I already can't practice with my shirt
off because I've got all these spots on my back.They weren't there
before.I play Contra and now I have back problems.I've had to take
therapy twice already for my back.Then we sleep on a bus like an bunch
of Indians on a train in India.A gym floor becomes a great thing.Before
drumcorps I never ever would think hey look at that gym floor I'd like
to sleep on it.

4)Florida
I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have
finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.

5)Enviroment
I read a thing about the amount of trash an average drum corps
produces.I don't really remember right now but we all know it's
alot.I've seen at least 5 big bags from my corps a day in the
summer.I'll put those numbers up later.It's in the '92 program.

6)Shows
Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.So would ny
professial.Drum corps is the most unmusical thing in the world.There's
alot of corps who have none at all(M__i__o_ S_o__s).I bet I'm in troble
now.We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people
and have no amps going.It's like an old beatle concert.Were they had
about 2 amps each and Ringo had nothing.


I don't want you guys to get me wrong.My best friends are all from
Drumcorps.All my friends are drum corps people.I don't regret doing drum
corps but it's not a good thing to do.
I'm pretty drained right but I'll get some more for later.

Canuck
Feel free to rebutt but no cheap shots


Fugipoet

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>Don't get me wrong I love it but it sucks.Let me put down some of the
>reasons why I think it sucks.
>
>

Our next executive director of DCI perhaps?

Medusa

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>>Don't get me wrong I love it but it sucks.Let me put down some of the
>>reasons why I think it sucks.
>>
>>

Gee... that's quite enlightening. After several hours of consideration and
thought, I have figured out how to fix your problems with drum corps. DON'T
DO IT! If you don't like parades, don't march. If you don't like having
your summers taken up, don't march. I know it's difficult to understand,
but if you don't enjoy it, don't do it!

DDDDD75

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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First off, why did you join a drum corps in the first place if your so
unsatisfied with your outcome? I for one love corps and it has taught me alot
about life, music, and commitment.
No one put a knife to your throat telling you you had to march in the first
place......and another thing, How did you ever make it through corps? You
complain way to much about stupid petty things. I agree it gets hott and tough
once in awhile, but so does life. You might as well fess up to it now!
Another thing is that you didn't have to march, you can sit in the stands and
enjoy it. I don't get why you have to dog corps so much just because you don't
like some things that don't go your way. Are you trying to ruin it for all the
rookies? Well, I have to say that you need to just enjoy corps music since it
is so painful for you and it supposidly ruined your life.....and by they way
again...no forced you, it a was all on your own will.

Devonda email me at spi...@yahoo.com

Drumgrrl93

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Ummm...maybe I'm going out on a limb here...but didn't you CHOOSE to
participate in this activity??
Just out of curiousity...what do you like about drum corps....it seems
like you have nothing but negative things to say.
Drum corps is like any other activity. There are ups and downs...you just
have to decide which side outweighs the other

Erin

ScribeToo

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>I don't want you guys to get me wrong.My best friends are all from
>Drumcorps.All my friends are drum corps people.I don't regret doing drum
>corps but it's not a good thing to do.
>I'm pretty drained right but I'll get some more for later.

Canuck..

here's an idea for you..

DON'T DO IT!

I know it must come as a shock to you that you have a choice, but you do...

Drum Corps has it pros and cons.. but it is CERTAINLY not for EVERYBODY.. you
are just one of the ones it ISN'T for.. so what? I know kids who will list
the things you said as reasons drum corps sucks and say those are the reasons
they are involved (for better or worse, I choose not to say..)!!

But it is fairly inaccurate for you to say that drum corps sucks as a rule..
it may suck FOR YOU.. but not everyone feels that way.. obviously not or we
would not be here.. maybe you should go back to the rec.arts.marchingband
newsgroup..??? perhaps you'll be happier there since drum corps sucks so bad..

Stefanie


GrnOlive99

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>Then we sleep on a bus like an bunch
>of Indians on a train in India.A gym floor becomes a great thing.

thats the best part!

>Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
>and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
>afternoon.

who wears wool cotton blend unis?

Johnathan Neuls

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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|Don't get me wrong I love it but it sucks.Let me put down some of the
|reasons why I think it sucks.


Isn't that the beauty of it all? The whole duality of hating it and loving
it and hating it at the same time?

|1) Christmas parades.
| I live in Ontario were it's not uncommon for a div2/3 corps to do
|2-6 parades a weekend.I'm wearing next to nothing ,holding a big piece
|of cold medal walking miles down the street on a super cold winter
|day.Drummers can't wear glovesso their lives are sucking as much as
|mine.After 1 parade we all get on a school bus and go do another and
|another.It was my favorite reason to leave Ontario drum corps.

Hey, I remember the good old days of High School Marching Band and am
reminded of a little thing we sung once, It goes to the tune of Jingle Bells

High school bands cross the land in the pouring rain
marching on a night like this can really be a pain.
Horn is froze, so's my toes, wish I were in bed.
Man, I hope a lightning bolt won't strike me in the head.

There's more to it than that verse, but that's the part that really applies.
Winter sucks! That's why corps is (primarily) in the summer! Suck it up.
Whaaaaa! I have to march when it's cold... WHAAAA!!!! Oy vey...

|2)Money
|We spend all this money on marching which alot of us can't afford.I'm
|only marching my age out because someone else is paying for it.I don't
|regret this but because I march I started College 2 years late(because
|of money not smarts),I have no driving license(in Ontario it costs $600
|to get it).Drum corps needs to be better financally.We all hear about
|the corps that doesn't feed fit's members by the end of tour because
|they can't afford to.This happens alot.


Not EVERY corps charges so much. The price you pay for dues largely depends
on how your corps handles their money. ($600 Canadian? What does that
translate to in US cash... 50 cents or so? hehehehe) I don't know the
conversion, but I only paid $300 my rookie year, $250 my second year, and $2
25 for my 3rd, and then it goes down by $25 every year i'm in. Is it that
cheap because CS is a division II corps? Don't think so, Scouts only pay
$500. Dunno if theirs decrease, though. If you march someplace that knows
how to manage money well, and doesn't buy brand new EVERYTHING every year,
your dues won't be so bad.

|3)The summer.
| This is the time of year we all wait for.In the summer I've raised the
|risk of skin cancer more and more.I already can't practice with my shirt
|off because I've got all these spots on my back.They weren't there
|before.I play Contra and now I have back problems.I've had to take
|therapy twice already for my back.Then we sleep on a bus like an bunch
|of Indians on a train in India.A gym floor becomes a great thing.Before
|drumcorps I never ever would think hey look at that gym floor I'd like
|to sleep on it.


Hey, it's all good. 1) Wear some sunscreen, boy! 2) If you can't handle a
Contra switch to Bari, or all the way up to sop, or Mello (Can't suggest
mello, though... buncha losers, all of em! *wink* ) If you can't PHYSICALLY
deal with Contra, don't play Contra! Hello, genius. 3) Indians on a train
in India? Dots or Feathers? Whichever, bus rides are like the best part of
tour! You get the self installed stereo thumpin' some good music, and just
jam! (CS'98's Bus 2 had two 6x9's in back, facing front, a pair o' MTXs
halfway forward, facing back, and a pair o' 10" subs under the two back
seats, with a 300W amp powering it all, including this sweet little AIWA
stereo, which we built a box for, and attached to the luggage rack in the
back of the bus.) I'm still recuperating from the all-night disco party on
bus 2 after the Racine show last season! I never thought Pure Disco and
Pure Disco 2 would get THAT much use in one night! As for the Gym floor -
well, get a thicker sleeping bag. Hey, some bass drummer brought a little
inflatable boat to sleep in the gym. It was pretty funny to see, but he was
short enought to fit in it nicely. He liked it, and he never actually
touched the floor. Hell, in Orlando when we got to the Motel (Scouts and
Sound took over a good portion of an EconoLodge in Kissimee (sp?) for DCI
time) he filled up the bathtub, inflated his little boat and slept in there!
It was goofy as hell, but then everyone else got a bed (two to a bed), and
nobody was on the floor. Bring a sleeping mat or something.

|4)Florida
|I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have

|finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms


|and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida

|afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN

|FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.


I gotta agree with this one... I don't like being soaked in my own juices
BEFORE we get on the field. And most certainly, GO MAD CITY!!!

|6)Shows
|Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
|to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.So would ny
|professial.Drum corps is the most unmusical thing in the world.There's
|alot of corps who have none at all(M__i__o_ S_o__s).I bet I'm in troble
|now.We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people
|and have no amps going.It's like an old beatle concert.Were they had
|about 2 amps each and Ringo had nothing.


Drum corps is unmusical when the corps can't play music well, or the music
chosen bites. If you think the Scouts are unmusical you're probably
inebriated, or you recently suffered a major blow to the head. As for amps,
for some corps (BD, Phantom, Scouts, some others too) amps would not help!
Some corps just have balls so big that no pissy little amplification system
is gonna do ANYTHING good at all... It's all about balls, not about amps.
If you got the balls, and you USE EM when you're on the field, you don't
need amps.

|I don't regret doing drum
|corps but it's not a good thing to do.

I disagree. It's the BEST thing to do.

LadyTerri1

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I can't believe I'm reading this! What were you expecting, the Hilton every
night? or microfiber uni's to keep you nice and comfy?

This is the funny.

-Terri

Humber College

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Let me clear myself up.I love corps it has changed my life.I've been
marching since I was 11.I LOVE CORPS.If you love your wife it doesn't mean
that she's perfect.That's what I'm trying to say.I LOVE CORPS.It's given me
more than anything else in my life .Some things about it do blow.I LOVE
CORPS.Logically it's not a smart thing to do.Finally we're talking about
something real here.No more who's the best at this or who's the
loudest.Really be honest with corps.I loved girls I've dated but none of
them were perfect.I'm not a corps hater.I don't want to be labeled as
one.Lets talk about something real for once.


Canuck

Humber College wrote:

> Don't get me wrong I love it but it sucks.Let me put down some of the
> reasons why I think it sucks.
>

> 1) Christmas parades.
> I live in Ontario were it's not uncommon for a div2/3 corps to do
> 2-6 parades a weekend.I'm wearing next to nothing ,holding a big piece
> of cold medal walking miles down the street on a super cold winter
> day.Drummers can't wear glovesso their lives are sucking as much as
> mine.After 1 parade we all get on a school bus and go do another and
> another.It was my favorite reason to leave Ontario drum corps.
>

> 2)Money
> We spend all this money on marching which alot of us can't afford.I'm
> only marching my age out because someone else is paying for it.I don't
> regret this but because I march I started College 2 years late(because
> of money not smarts),I have no driving license(in Ontario it costs $600
> to get it).Drum corps needs to be better financally.We all hear about
> the corps that doesn't feed fit's members by the end of tour because
> they can't afford to.This happens alot.
>

> 3)The summer.
> This is the time of year we all wait for.In the summer I've raised the
> risk of skin cancer more and more.I already can't practice with my shirt
> off because I've got all these spots on my back.They weren't there
> before.I play Contra and now I have back problems.I've had to take
> therapy twice already for my back.Then we sleep on a bus like an bunch
> of Indians on a train in India.A gym floor becomes a great thing.Before
> drumcorps I never ever would think hey look at that gym floor I'd like
> to sleep on it.
>

> 4)Florida
> I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have
> finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
> and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
> afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
> FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.
>

> 5)Enviroment
> I read a thing about the amount of trash an average drum corps
> produces.I don't really remember right now but we all know it's
> alot.I've seen at least 5 big bags from my corps a day in the
> summer.I'll put those numbers up later.It's in the '92 program.
>

> 6)Shows
> Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
> to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.So would ny
> professial.Drum corps is the most unmusical thing in the world.There's
> alot of corps who have none at all(M__i__o_ S_o__s).I bet I'm in troble
> now.We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people
> and have no amps going.It's like an old beatle concert.Were they had
> about 2 amps each and Ringo had nothing.
>

> I don't want you guys to get me wrong.My best friends are all from

> Drumcorps.All my friends are drum corps people.I don't regret doing drum


> corps but it's not a good thing to do.

> I'm pretty drained right but I'll get some more for later.
>

Gary Cuzzocrea

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I admit there have been days when I went out to the practice field and said
to myself...
"What a stupid activity!"

It does have its moments of lunacy, you must admit...anyone who has ever
tried to explain drum corps to someone who didn't know what it is knows
what I'm talking about! We've all had to answer those questions...

"So you fly all across the country, right?"......"Uhhhhh, no, we ride on
buses."
"So you stay in hotels, right?"................."Uhhhh, no, we sleep on gym
floors."
"You get to eat in restaurants, right?"......."Uhhhhhh, no, we eat a lot of
PB&J."
"Well, how much do you get paid?"........"Uhhhhhh, we have to pay to do
it."

It's kinda like those Rent-a-car commercials (Hertz, I think)...."Not
exactly!"

Let's face it...drum corps IS a stupid activity...it's also a GREAT
activity and I love it!
It has its own inner beauty and its own inner lunacy, just like politics,
relationships, religion (don't even get me started on that one!)...

Everyone just relax, watch some Sifl & Olly on MTV (gotta love the sock
puppets!), and have a few laughs!

In the words of the great Russell Bly...."Nothin' but love!"

GC


Steve Sorrell

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Humber College <ju...@humberc.on.ca> wrote:

>4)Florida
>I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have
>finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
>and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
>afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
>FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.

As a native of Florida, I am tired of people exagerating the climate
just to make thier point stronger. I dare you to find one day in
recent history when it has been 110 degrees in Florida. It is a rare
day when it breaks 100.

Now the thunder storms that pop up almost every afternoon is another
story.

But I do agree that we've had enough of Florida to last a lifetime.

Steve


Steve Sorrell

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Gary Cuzzocrea <gc...@email.eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:

off the original topic...

>Everyone just relax, watch some Sifl & Olly on MTV (gotta love the sock
>puppets!), and have a few laughs!

Isn't Sifl and Olly off the air now? I've lost it and can't find it!
It was quite humorous at 12:30am!

Steve

>GC


Humber College

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Do you realize we have no humitity in Canada.You're use to it nobody else
is.Nobody likes Florida

Humber College

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I forgot about the sand.Who ordered so much.

VKGARRY73

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Canuck wrote:

>I forgot about the sand.Who ordered so much.

Gee, lets see. 80% of the state is surrounded by tha Atlantic Ocean, Carribean
Sea and Gulf of Mexico. That means beach. That means sand. Go figure....

> Do you realize we have no humitity in Canada.

Not exactly the Queen's English. Maybe the French influence....

>.Nobody likes Florida

Jimmy Buffett does...

VKG

Flag4ever

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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well you complain about parades and money... does the corps not get paid for
the parade? Which is it, work some or pay more! Summer... guess what, it's drum
corps. And as far as getting cancer...pretty much if you are breathing you can
get some kind of cancer! It happens, you can not blame drum corps for that. Put
extra sunblock on and call it a day! And as for Florida... well ... finals are
not always there, now are they?! You need to not do it or get over it!

Scott

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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Yo dude,
You just don't know a good time when you're having one. Lighten up a
little. You need to go talk to Herbie and Al. They'll make everything
perfectly clear.
Scott

> 4)Florida
> I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have
> finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
> and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
> afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
> FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.
>

Scott

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HEY!! What do you mean my wife's not perfect? Only I can say that.

Scott

Humber College wrote:
>
> Let me clear myself up.I love corps it has changed my life.I've been
> marching since I was 11.I LOVE CORPS.If you love your wife it doesn't mean
> that she's perfect.That's what I'm trying to say.I LOVE CORPS.It's given me
> more than anything else in my life .Some things about it do blow.I LOVE
> CORPS.Logically it's not a smart thing to do.Finally we're talking about
> something real here.No more who's the best at this or who's the
> loudest.Really be honest with corps.I loved girls I've dated but none of
> them were perfect.I'm not a corps hater.I don't want to be labeled as
> one.Lets talk about something real for once.
>
> Canuck
>

Eric Miller

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Humber College wrote:

Actually, it's not that bad in orlando. (I'm from SOUTH Florida) It was
fun watching the kids from WI die after an hour while I was having no
problems. THe heat seperates the men from the boys.


>
> 5)Enviroment
> I read a thing about the amount of trash an average drum corps
> produces.I don't really remember right now but we all know it's
> alot.I've seen at least 5 big bags from my corps a day in the
> summer.I'll put those numbers up later.It's in the '92 program.
>
> 6)Shows
> Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
> to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.So would ny
> professial.Drum corps is the most unmusical thing in the world.There's
> alot of corps who have none at all(M__i__o_ S_o__s).I bet I'm in troble
> now.We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people
> and have no amps going.It's like an old beatle concert.Were they had
> about 2 amps each and Ringo had nothing.
>

THis is going to be a long thread........

Eric Miller

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Wahhh. It's humid mommy! WAHHH!

Humber College wrote:

> Do you realize we have no humitity in Canada.You're use to it nobody else
> is.Nobody likes Florida
>
> Steve Sorrell wrote:
>
> > Humber College <ju...@humberc.on.ca> wrote:
> >

> > >4)Florida
> > >I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have
> > >finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
> > >and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
> > >afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
> > >FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.
> >

Taylor Jenkins

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hehehe Gary you brought some great memories back with that quote from Russ.
Gonna miss him this summer.

Taylor Jenkins

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I like humidity. It reminds me of home :-)

Eric Miller wrote in message <3642035B...@earthlink.net>...

Taylor Jenkins

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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You can always do what I do and wear a t-shirt to all rehearsals. I'm
willing to bet I had the worst farmer's tan in the history of the Crossmen.
At least the protected part of my body was still darker than Brian Walsh's
skin :-)

Flag4ever wrote in message <19981105183245...@ng97.aol.com>...

Jay Wise

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> 3)The summer.
> This is the time of year we all wait for.In the summer I've raised the
> risk of skin cancer more and more.I already can't practice with my shirt
> off because I've got all these spots on my back.They weren't there
> before.

Doesn't mean it's skin cancer Mike! You also chose to take your shirt
off,
didn't you? I know I never forced you to take it off. Grant never did
and he survived.

> I play Contra and now I have back problems.

You've also marched since you were what, 7 years old?

> 5)Enviroment
> I read a thing about the amount of trash an average drum corps
> produces.I don't really remember right now but we all know it's
> alot.I've seen at least 5 big bags from my corps a day in the
> summer.I'll put those numbers up later.It's in the '92 program.

Drum corps trash is pretty insignificant. If you think a corps with
5 big bags of trash is a lot, then you should see what a school
produces on an average day! Much more than 5 bags.

IMO there is MUCH more environmental damage caused by poor intonation
(noise pollution) then food truck trash.

Seriously though, there is more damage to the environment done
by BAD DIESEL BUSSES than trash generated by the kitchen crew.
The grills are run by natural gas (propane), the plug-ins are
clean electric. The generator only runs when the truck is
moving down the road.

Other than plastic plates or cups, corps food trash is quite
bio-degradable (although the EPA hasn't ruled on Chicken Slop yet).

> 6)Shows
> Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
> to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.So would ny
> professial.Drum corps is the most unmusical thing in the world.

No, I think RAP is.

> We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people
> and have no amps going.

Interestingly I heard an Entertainment news blip of the
Rolling Stones on the radio today. They are releasing yet another
live album. They talked about the bad acoustics of outdoor venues,
even the nice, pricey new stadiums. They were made for sports
and not for acoustics.

Duh.

It's like an old beatle concert.Were they had

> I'm pretty drained right but I'll get some more for later.

Sounds like your going to have fun aging out.

Jay

Daniel Sullivan

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>Isn't that the beauty of it all? The whole duality of hating it and loving
>it and hating it at the same time?


Sure is! I know what you mean, I love the Bruins and Patriots(Boston area
resident here) but right now, they both suck ass.

ScribeToo

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>Let's face it...drum corps IS a stupid activity...it's also a GREAT
>activity and I love it!

I will not face it. So, just because we do stuff that is hard to do, and we
make sacrifices to do them and we work our butts off to get where we want to
be, that makes the activity stupid?

I suppose joining the Peace Corps is stupid, too, huh?

The only things I've ever found worthwhile long after I was finished with them,
were the things that were hard to accomplish.. the things I had to go through
hell and high water to get to..

This activity is hard, no doubt. Many times the things we endure don't make
sense, for sure.. but in all, I'd say it's FAR from stupid..

For it to be something stupid, we would have to reap no benefit from it. That
is clearly not the case and I know we can all agree on that.


Stefanie Kressaty
Staff Writer, Drum Corps World 1993 - present
Volunteer, West Coast Sound 1996 - present

"even the longest standing tradition was once a radical idea."

Vinson

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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:04:04 -0500, Humber College
<ju...@humberc.on.ca> wrote:

>Let me clear myself up.I love corps it has changed my life.I've been
>marching since I was 11.I LOVE CORPS.If you love your wife it doesn't mean
>that she's perfect.That's what I'm trying to say.I LOVE CORPS.It's given me
>more than anything else in my life .Some things about it do blow.I LOVE
>CORPS.Logically it's not a smart thing to do.Finally we're talking about
>something real here.No more who's the best at this or who's the
>loudest.Really be honest with corps.I loved girls I've dated but none of
>them were perfect.I'm not a corps hater.I don't want to be labeled as
>one.Lets talk about something real for once.
>
>
>Canuck
>

No, I hate you cuz you said my corps sucks. JK :)

Vinny
Mad Scouts


John Caspers

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Ron Allard wrote:
> I think it's pretty funny, too...
>
> And the word"bait" keeps running through my mind...
> Heh...
> --
> Ron in Vegas

Where's Dennis Sparrow when you need him?
He'd use his "suck scale" to tell us all exactly which aspects
of drum corps really suck, and to what degree. :-)

J.C.

Humber College

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Just because something produces more garbage then a drum corps doesn't make it
okay for the amount of garbage a drum corps produces.I killed only 1 person
but Jeffery Dommer(wrong spelling)killed 12 that makes mine okay.Also to
everybody .There's a good chance I've march more drum corps than you.Some of
you have more years than me but not a lot.I have 4 years div2/3 and tis is my
7th year in open class.Don't tell me I'm a wimp.I'm just saying look at this
thing logically.I think it's healthy sometimes.And finaly a real discussion.

Canuck

EverTick

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Whatever you guys think, is ok.

If I had the chance to do the tour over again I would. A million times.
that is how much of a passion for DC I have. But unless I can forge a birth
certificate I can't. So I have decided to join the Skyliners and strap on
the hogs again. Looking forward to playing again and give my realfeel a
break for a change. Ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby!!

Dar20

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Cry me a river. I think you listed all the reasons I LOVE drum corps.

Dar
Colts '92
w/ a Cavie bro '93-'98

Marimba151

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>Isn't Sifl and Olly off the air now? I've lost it and can't find it!<BR>

>It was quite humorous at 12:30am!

It's on at 1:00 now.
S. Serkin, Orlando
GO HEATWAVE!!!!

Humber College

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.I love corps as much as
the rest of you.If you think about it, it's crazy.What we do is crazy.I love
it as well but it's crazy.I just want everybody to think about that for a
second and reaalize it.I also wanted to get a real talk going which is still
above some of our heads.

Mike "Canuck" Fanning
because some say I'm afraid to say my name

geo...@worldchat.com

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Ok, Mike, you knew it was only a matter of time befor eI responded to
this.

>
>Humber College wrote:
>
>> Don't get me wrong I love it but it sucks.Let me put down some of the
>> reasons why I think it sucks.
>>
>> 1) Christmas parades.
>> I live in Ontario were it's not uncommon for a div2/3 corps to do
>> 2-6 parades a weekend.I'm wearing next to nothing ,holding a big piece
>> of cold medal walking miles down the street on a super cold winter
>> day.Drummers can't wear glovesso their lives are sucking as much as
>> mine.After 1 parade we all get on a school bus and go do another and
>> another.It was my favorite reason to leave Ontario drum corps.
>>

Unfortunately, Mike, these parades generate a lot of revenue for a
smaller Div. II/III corps. I know the corps I works with (St. John's)
is set to do about 16-20 parades this winter. The money we generate
from these parades will, hopefully, pay off our bus bill from the
summer. And yes, Mike, it is cold, bloody freezing. Welcome to Canada,
"Canuck". Don't like it, move to Florida...oh wait, you don't like it
there either...

>> 2)Money
>> We spend all this money on marching which alot of us can't afford.I'm
>> only marching my age out because someone else is paying for it.I don't
>> regret this but because I march I started College 2 years late(because
>> of money not smarts),I have no driving license(in Ontario it costs $600
>> to get it).Drum corps needs to be better financally.We all hear about
>> the corps that doesn't feed fit's members by the end of tour because
>> they can't afford to.This happens alot.
>>

If money is a problem, you should go march Patriots, where they pay
you to march!! (Just kidding, Pat and Jamey!!) Mike, when you turned
16, there was no graduated licensing, and getting a licence cost about
$100 if that. Don't blame your laziness in getting your licence on
Drum Corps. Sure, college is expensive, but we do have OSAP (Ontario
Student Assistance Plan) which I am sure you would, or already did
qualify for. Which corps don't feed their kids properly?

>> 3)The summer.
>> This is the time of year we all wait for.In the summer I've raised the
>> risk of skin cancer more and more.I already can't practice with my shirt
>> off because I've got all these spots on my back.They weren't there

>> before.I play Contra and now I have back problems.I've had to take
>> therapy twice already for my back.Then we sleep on a bus like an bunch
>> of Indians on a train in India.A gym floor becomes a great thing.Before

>> drumcorps I never ever would think hey look at that gym floor I'd like
>> to sleep on it.
>>
Don't take your shirt off then. And for the times when you do, I'm
told there is this amazing product that filters out all the harmful
rays from the sun. It is called sunblock, or something like that. As
for playing Contra, you chose the horn, deal with it. If not, there
might be an opening in the pit. I hear they practice in the shade, so
that solves your sun problem, as well. And as for sleeping on the bus,
you obviously have never had a comfy bus partner to share the seat
with...

>> 4)Florida
>> I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have
>> finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
>> and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
>> afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
>> FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.

Mike, what time were the Bluecoats on each day? I'm sure it wasn't the
afternoon. Yeah, it was hot...but Madison in 92 was frickin freezing,
and 94 Boston was raining...are we going to complain each and every
year?

>>
>> 5)Enviroment
>> I read a thing about the amount of trash an average drum corps
>> produces.I don't really remember right now but we all know it's
>> alot.I've seen at least 5 big bags from my corps a day in the
>> summer.I'll put those numbers up later.It's in the '92 program.
>>

In the grand scheme of things, this number is small. Check out a
schools trash at the end of the day. I would think the amount of
garbage produced by all drum corps in DCI over one summer, would equal
the amount produced by 10 McDonalds in a week....you want to complain
about the enviornment....start with them.


>> 6)Shows
>> Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
>> to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.So would ny

>> professial.Drum corps is the most unmusical thing in the world.There's
>> alot of corps who have none at all(M__i__o_ S_o__s).I bet I'm in troble
>> now.We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people
>> and have no amps going.It's like an old beatle concert.Were they had
>> about 2 amps each and Ringo had nothing.

Hmm...I don't recall the Bluecoats actually running (j/k). Mike, we
had an arguement just last week about dance music, and I said I didn't
think dance music was true music. Your argument was music is anything
that comes from the heart, and you defended dance music. So tell
me,Mike, is drum corps music if it comes from the heart? Most
unmusical? Tell that to the Kansa City Symphony, who invited the 1989
Phantom Regiment to join them on stage and play. Could you imagine if
we had amps? There would be more complaining than anything.

>>
>> I don't want you guys to get me wrong.My best friends are all from
>> Drumcorps.

I hope I am one of them. :)

All my friends are drum corps people.I don't regret doing drum
>> corps but it's not a good thing to do.

If it's not a good thing to do, Mike, why didn't you quit long ago?


>> I'm pretty drained right but I'll get some more for later.
>>

>> Canuck
>> Feel free to rebutt but no cheap shots
>

I think your Madison Scouts comment was a pretty cheap shot. You must
be upset that they keep beating you. :)

P.S. Sign your email address so people can reply to you!!!

Love you Mike,

Geoff "Poodle" Jones

Gary Cuzzocrea

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Steve Sorrell wrote:

> Gary Cuzzocrea <gc...@email.eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>
> off the original topic...
>
> >Everyone just relax, watch some Sifl & Olly on MTV (gotta love the sock
> >puppets!), and have a few laughs!
>

> Isn't Sifl and Olly off the air now? I've lost it and can't find it!

> It was quite humorous at 12:30am!
>

> Steve
>
> >GC

A fellow Sifl & Olly watcher!!!! Woo-hoo!!!

Yes, it used to be on at 12:30, but they switched it to 1am...sometimes
it's not on at all. I usually check the MTV home page to see when it'll be
on.

I swear, after a while, you would swear that those things are really
talking! That show cracks me up!

gc

Gary Cuzzocrea

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ScribeToo wrote:

> >Let's face it...drum corps IS a stupid activity...it's also a GREAT
> >activity and I love it!
>
> I will not face it. So, just because we do stuff that is hard to do, and we
> make sacrifices to do them and we work our butts off to get where we want to
> be, that makes the activity stupid?
>
> I suppose joining the Peace Corps is stupid, too, huh?
>

Oh, please! Lighten up..............I'm in no mood to get into a semantic
argument over the word "stupid" when I made it perfectly clear that I LOVE the
drum corps activity. I can't help it if you can't acknowledge how crazy this
activity can be, and have a sense of humor about it without getting yourself in a
tizzy. Life is too short for that nonsense...

GC


Dar20

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>I also wanted to get a real talk going which is still
>above some of our heads.
>
>

What a great way to get people to talk... insult them! How ingenious!

Gary Cuzzocrea

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Steve Sorrell wrote:

>
>
> As a native of Florida, I am tired of people exagerating the climate
> just to make thier point stronger. I dare you to find one day in
> recent history when it has been 110 degrees in Florida. It is a rare
> day when it breaks 100.

I, for one, am going to miss the whole Epcot getaway day during Finals
week. I will NEVER forget that all-you-can-eat meal at the Polynesian
resort with the combined staffs of the Cadets and Crossmen! Wowwwwww!!!!
I'm still full from that......whew!

GC


Canodiva

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Drum Corps is the best thing on the whole earth. It is no one's fault except
yours that you decided to march Contra, and now have back problems.

LadyTerri1

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<<I, for one, am going to miss the whole Epcot getaway day during Finals
week. I will NEVER forget that all-you-can-eat meal at the Polynesian
resort with the combined staffs of the Cadets and Crossmen! Wowwwwww!!!!
I'm still full from that......whew!

GC

>>


Did you eat at Ohana's? If so, it is full on gluttony.

:-)

-Terri

Gary Cuzzocrea

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LadyTerri1 wrote:

That's the place!!! Alooooooooooooo-ha!!!

Humber College

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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Why doesn't anybody understand I LOVE DRUM CORPS.I work hard like everyone
else.I'm one of the last people to complain on tour.Nobody can tell me I'm a
pussy.None of you know me but Jay Wise.You all need to look at the post from
Humber college in the Canuck of the North thing.I didn't write it.My friend who
marches Cadets did and maybe it will give you all a new out look on tis thing.I
deal with all the crap I've gone through.I don't regret it.

Canuck

G00d4u98

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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um...contras rule :)

Scott Gordon

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Since I didn't march corps, I can only comment on a few things....

Humber College (ju...@humberc.on.ca) wrote:
: 5)Enviroment
: seen at least 5 big bags from my corps a day in the summer.

Divided by 140 (members + staff), that's actually a lot less trash
than is generated by most people in a day, per capita.

: 6)Shows


: Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
: to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.

I am a real jazz musician and I have brought many of my fellow musician
friends who always enjoy it. The ones that laugh are the ones who have
never heard the Blue Devils live.

: We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people


: and have no amps going.

That's what makes it the most unique acoustic sound in the world.

: I don't regret doing drum corps but it's not a good thing to do.

I regret never having done it.

Scott


Dar20

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Oh, WHY did you have to mention the Luau?!?!?!!? I wanna go back!!!
Waaaaahh!!! :) Oh, wait, we're going back in June for our HONEYMOON!!!
YIPPPEEEE!!!!!! Can you tell I'm excited?!

LadyTerri1

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>>


Not Luau, Dar. Ohana's. Luau is different. I'm going twice in April!

Note the screen name change.

-Terri

Vinson

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Cunuck,

Let me get this straight, you love drum corps and you say its the most
greatest thing in the world and it changed your life. But you say its
dangerous, polluting, unmusical, and an improper way of spending your
money. Not to mention its takes up your valuable time in the summer?
Ok, now that we've established that. Damn, I'm kinda confused. What is
there to talk about. If there is all this bad stuff about corps, what
is there to love? What are you trying to prove? Are you saying that we
should love corps, but think its a bad thing to do? Hmmm....kinda
weird. Oh yeah, your cheap shot at Madison wasnt cool.

Vinson

David Glasgow

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Everyone,
I have been reading this post for a couple of days now. I think what Mike
is trying to say is this: When you look at all the negatives of this
activity, one might wonder why anyone would want to participate in it. Yet
everyone of us, including him, still marches and loves it. I think this
post was designed to talk about some of the things we love to hate about
drum corps. Maybe we SHOULD talk about something other than the same who
has the best, who is the loudest etc.....

Just my two cents

Humber College wrote in message <36439F5F...@humberc.on.ca>...

Hrhbailey

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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>Maybe we SHOULD talk about something other than the same who
>has the best, who is the loudest etc.....

Things that Drum Corps is better than:
1. Root Canal
2. Weekends with In-laws
3. Cat Food
4. Woodwinds
5. A major wedgie
6. The Philadelphia Eagles
7. Yard work
8. Paper cuts
9. Being in jail

Man, I'm tapped out. But I bet there are more!

(HRH) Bailey
Archer Epler Alumni

Francois LeMay

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Humber,
You are an idiot moron, get lost and be an american..fartface
Francois


sai...@one.net

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Either do it...or don't.

Positive or negative...The choice is yours...

Michael Kolle
Guardsmen 75-77
Son of a Skokie Indian
Brother of a fellow Guardsmen 73-75
God son of a NP Imperial AND a Chicago Cavalier
And doing my DAMNDEST to don the Plaid!! ie Kilties '99

Jay Wise

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> ladyt...@aol.com (LadyTerri1) wrote:
>
> >I can't believe I'm reading this! What were you expecting, the Hilton every
> >night? or microfiber uni's to keep you nice and comfy?
> >
> > This is the funny.
> >
> >-Terri

Back when ***I*** marched in the Bluecoats, we didn't have those comfy
all-cotton uniforms they do now... plus cool, heat-reflective WHITE
pants.

I aged out in a WINTER Marching Band uniform made of 100% wool. The
jacket was double-layered across the front (trapping heat). And in
1988, I think there were some 20 90+ degree days and an easy dozen
100+ days. We also didn't have A/C on the busses (which do now, and
on some buses -- at least several years ago -- worked WAY too well).

Wah!

I'm tellin' ya... those marching today are wimps!

Jay
a.k.a. "old Fart"

Jay Wise

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Humber College wrote:
>
> Just because something produces more garbage then a drum corps doesn't make it
> okay for the amount of garbage a drum corps produces.

Okay, you first.

I will call Bill and request that from now on, you don't get
any plastic plates, cups or silver ware. No cups for water
breaks either! No more silver polish for the horns (the rags
with the polish on it are health and bio-hazard concerns).
Laundering the uniforms is a waste of water and soap... they only
get dirty again.

Seriously, though... Drum corps are pretty eco-safe when you
consider the alternatives!

Bluecoats entertained thoughts of doing away with plastic plates
to replaced by slotted trays (like school cafeterias). The suggestion
was that members would wash the trays after their meals.

Obviously we never seriously entertained this thought because as
it stood then the members did a LOUSY job of cleaning off the trays
the plates were on. The choice would then be to have a volunteer
(which corps are in short supply of) take 2 hours out between meals
to scrub down each tray with appropriate cleansers to sterilize them.

That ain't gonna happen. The alternative is worse. Drum corps is
a closed environment. When a serious, and contagious, affliction hits
one person it's rare for it to stop there. A/C on busses gets
recirculated. Trays are re-used. Water coolers are passed around, etc.

There have been ample stories of corps having scores of members sick
at one time, or to pass around colds. It's why many corps do not allow
members to bring their own water coolers out to practice. Sharing is
not good in drum corps when you are sick!

So which would you rather have Mike?

Extra trash (which, again, the vast majority of is recyclable!) being
left behind or unsanitary conditions that would lead to you (and others)
becoming sick?

BTW- how long did it take your belly button to heal that one summer?
Infections are a bitch, ain't they? Try food poisoning due to
contaminated
foods. Disposable plastics keep you healthier!

> I killed only 1 person but Jeffery Dommer(wrong spelling)killed 12 that
> makes mine okay.

No, it makes your terrible. At least Jeffrey Dahmer consumed his kills,
therefore causing less waste and ecological damage!

> There's a good chance I've march more drum corps than you.Some of
> you have more years than me but not a lot.I have 4 years div2/3 and tis is my

> 7th year in open class.Don't tell me I'm a wimp.

Just being in corps forever doesn't mean you're not eligible to be a
wimp.
Sometimes a true test of courage is being able to walk away from
something
you think your addicted to. Courage is saying "no" when everyone else
is saying yes (or being wimpy).

Jay

Batspartan

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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Baily said:

>Things that Drum Corps is better than:
>1. Root Canal
>2. Weekends with In-laws
>3. Cat Food
>4. Woodwinds
>5. A major wedgie
>6. The Philadelphia Eagles
>7. Yard work
>8. Paper cuts
>9. Being in jail
>

10. Linburger Cheese
11.Marching Band
12. Bonding with Parents
13.Tonic Water (by itself as part of a prank)
14. pens that do not work when your writing sown a phone message.
15. Loosing all your equiptment and having to strat from scratch.

Batspartan
Spartans 97 99
Nos Reficiemus
May your life be like toilet paper, long and useful.


TrvrKn

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
to
><BR>
>Things that Drum Corps is better than:<BR>
>1. Root Canal<BR>
>2. Weekends with In-laws<BR>
>3. Cat Food<BR>
>4. Woodwinds<BR>
>5. A major wedgie<BR>
>6. The Philadelphia Eagles<BR>
>7. Yard work<BR>
>8. Paper cuts<BR>
>9. Being in jail<BR>
><BR>
>Man, I'm tapped out. But I bet there are more!<BR>
><BR>
>(HRH) Bailey<BR>
>Archer Epler Alumni<BR>
></HTML>

Damn, That doesn't say too much for Archie!

Robert Brown

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
to
> : 6)Shows
> : Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder
trying
> : to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.
>

Yeah, that's why Rob McConnel showed up at a Blue Devils site for a little
party at the end of the 82 season! That's why Manard F. let a bunch of us
Blue Devil types into his concert free of charge when we happened to be
near a concert site!

They may have laughed, but they gave us the time of day.

Rob

Eric Miller

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
to

Batspartan wrote:

> Baily said:
>
> >Things that Drum Corps is better than:

I have to say, what happened to all your equipment was really shitty.
You guys kicked in 98 and I hope you do just as well next season.
Eric Miller
Canos 97-98

LadyTerri1

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
to
<<Back when ***I*** marched in the Bluecoats, we didn't have those comfy
all-cotton uniforms they do now... plus cool, heat-reflective WHITE
pants.

I aged out in a WINTER Marching Band uniform made of 100% wool. The
jacket was double-layered across the front (trapping heat). And in
1988, I think there were some 20 90+ degree days and an easy dozen
100+ days. We also didn't have A/C on the busses (which do now, and
on some buses -- at least several years ago -- worked WAY too well).

Wah!

I'm tellin' ya... those marching today are wimps!

Jay
a.k.a. "old Fart"

>>


oh man Jay,

I can top that.

Wool uniforms in both corps/fun, fun, fun in Mississippi and Texas in July and
August

School buses

-Terri "even older" :-)

BLGrimace

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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>Back when ***I*** marched in the Bluecoats,

And then we marched our show in our bare feet, on *real* grass, in the snow.
I don't know how it snowed when it was 100+ degrees, but let me tell you that
back then it did. And when we were done, we didn't have an equipment truck, or
buses. We marched down the dirt road to wherever our next show was. . . why, I
remember one summer when I marched from Atlanta to De Kalb, and did I complain?
Noooo. . . .


Grimace
-------------
"Sometimes accepting how things are is all we can do"

-- Katherine R. Larsen, 1978-1998

FrankAreMe

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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> It was
>fun watching the kids from WI die after an hour while I was having no
>problems. THe heat seperates the men from the boys.

And it was fun watching wimps like you in Florida whining and crying that you
were freezing when the temperature was in the 60's.
I just loved it the winter all the pipes froze on those expensive beach front
condos in Florida and Alabama and you all crying about it cause you couldn't
take it.
Not to mention how stupid it is when people in Florida have their beach front
condos destroyed by hurricanes and actually whine to the government for money
to rebuild them! That's as bad as people in Californina living on fault lines!


FrankAreMe

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We all must remember that Canuck is also the same person who is whining that
Canadians should get special treatment in American corps because of the
exchange rate. It's almost like he thinks it's his right to come here and
march---guess what dude--it doesn't work that way. It's not our fault that
Canada's currency is in the shape it's in. Get over it. It's hard enough for
U.S. citizens to get special favors in our own country much less give them to
foriegners.
In fact, how come you're the only one whining about dues in MY country?? I
don't see anyone else from Canada wanting special favors, just you.

Oh, and his one defender--Emma--just remember what she said--George H. taught
her (and apparently the rest of the Cadet) all about love---now that's a scarey
thought.

HB1981

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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oh yeah its real cool when your home gets destroyed by a hurricane.
yeah real funny
HAHA

NOT

>Not to mention how stupid it is when people in Florida have their beach front
>condos destroyed by hurricanes and actually whine to the government for money
>to rebuild them!


-- erin
http://members.tripod.com/~horngruven/
HB1...@aol.com

Francois LeMay

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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I have been marching since 62 and SkyAlumi since 53 and Ron about the
same time..kid
Francois


Eric Miller

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FrankAreMe wrote:

> > It was
> >fun watching the kids from WI die after an hour while I was having no
> >problems. THe heat seperates the men from the boys.
>
> And it was fun watching wimps like you in Florida whining and crying that you
> were freezing when the temperature was in the 60's.
> I just loved it the winter all the pipes froze on those expensive beach front
> condos in Florida and Alabama and you all crying about it cause you couldn't
> take it.

> Not to mention how stupid it is when people in Florida have their beach front
> condos destroyed by hurricanes and actually whine to the government for money

> to rebuild them! That's as bad as people in Californina living on fault lines!

Actually, I attended a camp where all I had were shorts and tshirts. THe temp was
around 40 degrees.
I dealt with it.
<grin>


Hrhbailey

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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>Things that Drum Corps is better than:
>>1. Root Canal
>>2. Weekends with In-laws
>>3. Cat Food
>>4. Woodwinds
>>5. A major wedgie
>>6. The Philadelphia Eagles
>>7. Yard work
>>8. Paper cuts
>>9. Being in jail
>>
>>Man, I'm tapped out. But I bet there are more!
>>
>>(HRH) Bailey
>>Archer Epler Alumni
>>
>
>Damn, That doesn't say too much for Archie!
>

I hear ya, Trev. I thought listing every Philadelphia team was overkill.

FrankAreMe

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>I hear ya, Trev. I thought listing every Philadelphia team was overkill.

Actually he left out Villanova, Penn, LaSalle, American, Temple and Philadephia
Textile :)

Brian Tingley

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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Yo, Humber Boy... I wonder if you would do me a favor. Would you mind not
identifying yourself as a Canadian? You're giving the rest of us a really bad
name. You want to "get a real talk going"? Then quit whining. So far you've
whined about exchange rates, weather, food, the environment, your inability to
finance your college education... I can't wait to see where this "real talk"
leads.

In the mean time, drop the emphasis on Canada. If you can't run with the big
dogs, get out of the park. I never heard any whining from Andre and the Corps
in Quebec, and you certainly never heard any whining from the Corps in Alberta.
Perhaps it's an Ontario hangup.

(Apologies to the rest of the NG for that Ontario dig. It's an East/West
Canadian thing)
Brian Tingley
MelloDad

Rumduddydidum

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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WOW!......Your my hero!

Eric Miller wrote in message <3645AA09...@earthlink.net>...

Bluecoatsop98

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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Canuck,

This is Adam. I marched with you this year. When I first read this post
it made me wonder. I know you love corps. You were the most dedicated person
on tour. you always cheered me up when I was down. Even though you probably
didn't know you were. So, I know you are dedicated, and you obviously love.
See you this summer.

Adam
Bluecoats Soprano '98
Dobyns-Bennett Trumpet '96 '97 '98
Dobyns-Bennett Indoor Drumline Pit '98
Dobyns-Bennett Indoor Hornline Trumpet '99

TourR...@webtv.net

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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Re : FugiPoet

Do I gotta talk to you again about playing nice?

The guy said "no cheap shots" and you went right for it. Stop
watching Star Trek and turn off your God Complex.

If you want to play rough, give me a shot.

TourRat

}*{


FrankAreMe

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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So Canuck marched with the Bluecoats hey? Tell us, did he go whining to Bill
Hamilton to cut his dues because of the exchange rate?
I don't know, but after reading his latest post--I'm still trying to figure out
what the hell "trama" is--maybe he should transfer out of Humber College and go
somewhere where they actually teach spelling and grammer and concentrate on
that instead of whining when he can't get his way because of the country he
lives in. I'm glad he doesn't live here. Talk about a tax burden on us if he
would get his way.

Carlyjlj75

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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>I'm still trying to figure out
>what the hell "trama" is--maybe he should transfer out of Humber College and
>go
>somewhere where they actually teach spelling and grammer

Frank, Frank, Frank...

And I suppose "grammer" is the Canadian spelling???

CJ - just couldn't resist :)
sorry..I know I know ...what's a misplaced vowel between friends... but man you
just write way too many critical responses

Eric Miller

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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Is this sarcasm? you can never tell with text.... ;)

FrankAreMe

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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>And I suppose "grammer" is the Canadian spelling???
>
>CJ - just couldn't resist :)

Probably :) either that I was tired or something or my cat was attacking my
keyboard right when I typed that. Yep that's it!

LadyTerri1

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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>>
Hey Frank,

Is that "Toonces the internet cat"? Does he drive too?

Ha ha!

-Terri

FrankAreMe

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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>Hey Frank,
>
>Is that "Toonces the internet cat"? Does he drive too?
>
>Ha ha!
>
>-Terri
>
>
>

hahaha
no, it's Rajah the weird cat that came with the house who thinks straws are
alive! And no, he's shown no interest in driving yet!

So there! Ş

Frank

FrankAreMe

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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Actually Terri, it was a real cat--the weird one that came with the house who
thinks straws are living entities and attacks them. But no, he doesn't
drive...yet. :)

So there! Ş

ScribeToo

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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>oh yeah its real cool when your home gets destroyed by a hurricane.
>yeah real funny
>HAHA
>
>NOT
>
>>Not to mention how stupid it is when people in Florida have their beach
>front
>>condos destroyed by hurricanes and actually whine to the government for
>money
>>to rebuild them!

Erin,

DON'T BUILD HOMES ON THE BEACHES OF PLACES WHERE HURRICANES HIT AND EXPECT MY
TAX MONEY TO PAY YOU TO REBUILD. That's what he's saying. Oh, yeah.. it's
what I'm saying too..

Coastal californians to it too.. but they build multi-ton homes on top of sand
cliffs that overlook the ocean.. and those relaxing, soothing waves they listen
to at night are actually throwing little pebbles against that sand cliff that's
holding their house up, weakening it from underneath... so that one day..
::ccrrrreeeaaaakkkk.. sllliiiiidddeeee... CCRRAAASSHH:: right into the
ocean.

it's dumb -- simple physics or common sense will tell you to build somewhere
else..

sheesh..

Stefanie

FrankAreMe

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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>Erin,
>
>DON'T BUILD HOMES ON THE BEACHES OF PLACES WHERE HURRICANES HIT AND EXPECT MY
>TAX MONEY TO PAY YOU TO REBUILD. That's what he's saying. Oh, yeah.. it's
>what I'm saying too..
>
>Coastal californians to it too.. but they build multi-ton homes on top of
>sand
>cliffs that overlook the ocean.. and those relaxing, soothing waves they
>listen
>to at night are actually throwing little pebbles against that sand cliff
>that's
>holding their house up, weakening it from underneath... so that one day..
>::ccrrrreeeaaaakkkk.. sllliiiiidddeeee... CCRRAAASSHH:: right into the
>ocean.
>
>it's dumb -- simple physics or common sense will tell you to build somewhere
>else..

That's right. Unfortunately too many in our government controlled public
schools have been indoctrinated into actually believing that government is the
only and/or a big part of the solution for any problem when in fact the problem
is government poking it's nose unconstitutionally into every facet of our
lives.

No Erin, there is nothing funny about hurricanes or any other natural disaster
destroying people's houses. The problem comes when those people think for some
reason that the government HAS to bail them out. It's called indivual
responsibilty to have your stuff in order so you don't have to be babysat by an
inept federal government that has no business in anything except for what is
called for in the original constitution.

Frank
Repeal the 16th Admendment

jray...@gmail.com

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This article was posted the year I was born so hello from the future, (20 years in the future) many of the problems you had with drum corps are fixed, the busses are nicer we always have food at my corps, the level of musicality is beyond that of 20 years ago and now we have amps like you were saying we should have, some people think we have too many amps now. You probably already know all of this as a drum corps alumni but I couldn't resist commenting on a thread that's 20 years old.

richard...@gmail.com

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On Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, Humber College wrote:
> Don't get me wrong I love it but it sucks.Let me put down some of the
> reasons why I think it sucks.
>
> 1) Christmas parades.
> I live in Ontario were it's not uncommon for a div2/3 corps to do
> 2-6 parades a weekend.I'm wearing next to nothing ,holding a big piece
> of cold medal walking miles down the street on a super cold winter
> day.Drummers can't wear glovesso their lives are sucking as much as
> mine.After 1 parade we all get on a school bus and go do another and
> another.It was my favorite reason to leave Ontario drum corps.
>
> 2)Money
> We spend all this money on marching which alot of us can't afford.I'm
> only marching my age out because someone else is paying for it.I don't
> regret this but because I march I started College 2 years late(because
> of money not smarts),I have no driving license(in Ontario it costs $600
> to get it).Drum corps needs to be better financally.We all hear about
> the corps that doesn't feed fit's members by the end of tour because
> they can't afford to.This happens alot.
>
> 3)The summer.
> This is the time of year we all wait for.In the summer I've raised the
> risk of skin cancer more and more.I already can't practice with my shirt
> off because I've got all these spots on my back.They weren't there
> before.I play Contra and now I have back problems.I've had to take
> therapy twice already for my back.Then we sleep on a bus like an bunch
> of Indians on a train in India.A gym floor becomes a great thing.Before
> drumcorps I never ever would think hey look at that gym floor I'd like
> to sleep on it.
>
> 4)Florida
> I just really really really really hate Florida.It's way to hot to have
> finals there ever again.Hey lets put on our wool cotton blend uniforms
> and go march a drumcorps show in the middle of a 110 degree Florida
> afternoon.I think it's going to be fun.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
> FLORIDA WEAR SWEATERS IN THE SUMMER!!GO MADISON.
>
> 5)Enviroment
> I read a thing about the amount of trash an average drum corps
> produces.I don't really remember right now but we all know it's
> alot.I've seen at least 5 big bags from my corps a day in the
> summer.I'll put those numbers up later.It's in the '92 program.
>
> 6)Shows
> Where else would I run around with 30 pds of medal on my shoulder trying
> to play Jazz.Real Jazz musicans would laugh out loud at me.So would ny
> professial.Drum corps is the most unmusical thing in the world.There's
> alot of corps who have none at all(M__i__o_ S_o__s).I bet I'm in troble
> now.We are the only thing that will play in a stadium with 30,000 people
> and have no amps going.It's like an old beatle concert.Were they had
> about 2 amps each and Ringo had nothing.
>
>
> I don't want you guys to get me wrong.My best friends are all from
> Drumcorps.All my friends are drum corps people.I don't regret doing drum
> corps but it's not a good thing to do.
> I'm pretty drained right but I'll get some more for later.
>
> Canuck
> Feel free to rebutt but no cheap shots

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