Best/ Worst Snare Tuning
Jim C
Best - Dev's by far. You could hear them wherever they were on the field.
Crispy critters. .
Worst - Cadets. Thin!!!! Made them sound like they had no balls. Dump
those Pearls. . .
Jim C
Timothy Mena
>Anyone care to guess which roll that was??
Umm....NOT Blue Devils 95 for sure!
Tim Mena
Cadets 96
Timothy Mena
I LOVED the way Cavaliers snare tuning(all the perc tuning for that
matter) in 1992. Lots of thunder! I guess thats why they made that
"Shockwaves" tee shirt that year.
Tim Mena
Cadets 96
VCColy
I don't think it's a matter of dumping a brand of drum as much as it is the
person doing the tuning.
BD sounded great, though I must agree. Cadets didn't sound all that hot, but
on closer look at their snares at one show, the bottom heads were torqued to
the hilt which causes any drum, no matter what brand, to not project when using
kevlars on both the top and bottom as Cadets did.
Not to "slam" a certain corps, but Glassmen's snare sound a couple of years
back reminded me of playing on a snare that had been left out in a rain storm
for 3 days!
Just some thoughts!
VC
VCC...@aol.com (Vic Colaianni)
Al
Ahh yes, back in the days of Remo drums and Fiberskyn heads. I remember
them fondly. That idea didn't exactly catch on too well.
Alan Frye
Glassmen '96-98
snare
Phillip A Williams
Jim, I agree with your opinion on Cadets' snares, but I don't think it's
the drums. Have you ever noticed what's on the bottom heads of their
snares? I swear to god these guys own stock in moleskin!!!
Phil
Jonwband
I will agree that the Blue Devils have the best snare sound heard on the
field...Crisp, Clear, and not too overpowering. The second best sound in, IMO,
the Cavaliers. Both BD and Cavies use Yamaha I believe, but I don't think it's
just the brand name they use, but how they tune them.
I will also agree that the Cadets snare sound in too dark, tight, and not as
crisp as the two above. They are one of the better drum lines in DCI, along
with the two mentioned above, but I do wish they would tune those Pearls a
little different, or try another brand.
I also like Madison's tuning very much.
Jonathan Willis
Bob Crow
Jonwband wrote:
>
> Both BD and Cavies use Yamaha I believe, but I don't think it's
> just the brand name they use, but how they tune them.
Amen to that! BD's snares always sound good, but Cavies' snare tuning
often sounds mushy to me. Especially 95! They used red snares for
"Mars" that sounded really good, then picked up silver trash can lids
for the rest of the show. I don't get it....
BC
da
Especially 95! They used red snares for
> "Mars" that sounded really good, then picked up silver trash can lids
> for the rest of the show. I don't get it....
>
> BC
Really, I thought the 95 cavies drumline was their best to date. Very
tight sound. I loved the Blue Devils lines in 94 and 95. I'm not a drum
person but those lines I liked.
JasonP22
>Cavies' snare tuning
>often sounds mushy to me. Especially 95! They used red snares for
>"Mars" that sounded really good, then picked up silver trash can lids
>for the rest of the show. I don't get it....
maybe it was because the red snares were 13 inches, and the silvers were 14. I
agree that they sounded better on the 13's. Maybe they had trouble adjusting
the different sounds
Jason Porter
Michael Cahill
VCColy wrote:
> BD sounded great, though I must agree. Cadets didn't sound all that hot, but
> on closer look at their snares at one show, the bottom heads were torqued to
> the hilt which causes any drum, no matter what brand, to not project when using
> kevlars on both the top and bottom as Cadets did.
Most lines torque the bottom head beyond the hilt. Many corps have been known to
double and triple rim both top and bottom heads, especially in the Mylar days.
Cadets have had an overly dry snare sound since the early eighties. Much of this
is due to large amounts of tape, moleskin, and removing gut strands, which
combined results in a much less exposed sound. I remember listening to one of
their snares play in 87, the drum sounded more like a tenor than a snare.
> Not to "slam" a certain corps, but Glassmen's snare sound a couple of years
> back reminded me of playing on a snare that had been left out in a rain storm
> for 3 days!
I think your talking about their Remo days. I've never heard a good sound from
that brand.
Possibly the most unique snare tuning I have ever heard came from Bridgemen 80-82.
Those old-school Slingerland TDR 15 inch drums had the fattest sweetest sound, and
the most distinctive rimshots on the face of the earth. Anyone here remember the
theme from "Shaft" or "Black Market Juggler"?
--
Michael Cahill
"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless,
and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful" Samuel Johnson.
VCColy
Yep.. Remember "Shaft" and "Black Market" well!!!!! Great sound out of the
Slingerlands for sure! Especially the 8 count cresendo roll in "Shaft" after
the baritone solo with the nifty rim shot at the end!!!! To date I've only
heard one roll cleaner. Anyone care to guess which roll that was??
VC
VCC...@aol.com (Vic Colaianni)
Frank Schoenbach
Jonwband wrote:
>
> I will agree that the Blue Devils have the best snare sound heard on the
> field...Crisp, Clear, and not too overpowering. The second best sound in, IMO,
> just the brand name they use, but how they tune them.
>
> crisp as the two above. They are one of the better drum lines in DCI, along
> with the two mentioned above, but I do wish they would tune those Pearls a
> little different, or try another brand.
>
> I also like Madison's tuning very much.
> Jonathan Willis
Best snare tuning---any year prior to 1985, all corps
Knamaky
I really liked the tuning of BD's snares in 82. I never saw them in person, but
on the CD they sound awesome...
Robert Shane Crocker
The people who think that a choked snare sound is due to kevlar on top and
bottom, not exactly true, look at Star 93.
BD did seem to take a lot of time with their drums, I dug it. Better than
the over-wet sound in 94/95, in my opinion.
I thought SCV and Blue Knights had some of the the best sounding snares
there. Crossmens were pretty sweet too, although a little deep for my
tastes.
Shane
VCColy
Star didn't have kevlar on top in 1993. They used the Premier heads on top.
VC
VCC...@aol.com (Vic Colaianni)
Knamaky
>I thought SCV and Blue Knights had some of the the best sounding snares
>there. Crossmens were pretty sweet too, although a little deep for my
>tastes.
That's funny because all three of these corps used the exact same heads on top
at Finals. They all used the Remo experimental heads. Regiment also used them,
and Madison was using them up until somewhere in August...
Ryan De Nunzio
Phillip A Williams <pwil...@umsis.miami.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.OSF.3.96.971211...@ionium.it.miami.edu>...
>
> Jim, I agree with your opinion on Cadets' snares, but I don't think it's
> the drums. Have you ever noticed what's on the bottom heads of their
> snares? I swear to god these guys own stock in moleskin!!!
>
I agree it's not the drums either.. Listen to Cadets.. Then Listen to
SCV... Same drums!
Ryan
Ryan De Nunzio
JasonP22 <jaso...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19971211175...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>
> maybe it was because the red snares were 13 inches, and the silvers were
14. I
> agree that they sounded better on the 13's. Maybe they had trouble
adjusting
> the different sounds
>
> Jason Porter
Actually, the reds in the beginning of the show were 14's and the silvers
were 13's.. Take a look at the videos.. HUGE difference..
Ryan
Phillip A Williams
Oh, you mean the Premier TENDURA kevlar heads?...As far as I can remember,
Thom Hannum has been using kevlar heads in his lines at Star, UMass, and
Crossmen since 90 when star used plastic (I think it was 90...)
Phil
Phillip A Williams
Heh, the Xperimental heads...you know what the funnies thing about those
heads was? They were black, so during the day they dropped due to the sun
(also--HOT, don't touch!). Then at night they would go back up...what a
ride!
Phil
Bones 95-97
Sky Johnson
Phillip A Williams wrote:
>
> On 12 Dec 1997, VCColy wrote:
>
> > Star didn't have kevlar on top in 1993. They used the Premier heads on top.
>
> Thom Hannum has been using kevlar heads in his lines at Star, UMass, and
> Crossmen since 90 when star used plastic (I think it was 90...)
Ummm... no, those would be the Premier MARATHON mylar heads - same ones
Star had been using since at least '90. (BTW - I loved the sound they
got out of those things - were the bottoms mylar or kevlar?)
Currently, I like SCV's tuning - they make those new heads sound REAL
nice.
-Sky
Roger M. Carter
Timothy Mena wrote in message <348F05...@earthlink.net>...
>>Anyone care to guess which roll that was??
>
>Umm....NOT Blue Devils 95 for sure!
>
>Tim Mena
>Cadets 96
Huh. Too bad you weren't there. Obviously you listened to the video or CD
recording, and heard the TERRIBLE sound quality and echo off of the front
wall in Buffalo. Ask anyone who was there and knows what they are talking
about, and they will tell you that the roll in day danse was EXTREMELY
clean.
I know that this probably sounds like a pathetic attempt to cover up some
poor playing, but I SWEAR to you, that roll you refer to was the cleanest
set of notes that I have ever played in a snare line. Unless you think that
everything the Blue Devils drumline plays is of bad quality, then I assure
you that the part to which you speak was played to, or exceeded the level of
excellence you have come to expect from the BD snare line. It just was a
matter of bad recording.
Sorry if I sound defensive. I have a great sense of pride in that drumline,
and especially THAT ROLL. When I hear a person slam it like that, It makes
me angry.
Roger Carter - BD center snare 1995
Jack Bornstein
In article <19971211182...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, vcc...@aol.com
(VCColy) wrote:
>Yep.. Remember "Shaft" and "Black Market" well!!!!! Great sound out of the
>Slingerlands for sure! Especially the 8 count cresendo roll in "Shaft" after
>the baritone solo with the nifty rim shot at the end!!!! To date I've only
>heard one roll cleaner. Anyone care to guess which roll that was??
>
I loved "Shaft" and "Black Market" as well... and although I heard lots of
people on tour complain that Bridgemen tuned their Slingerlands way too
loose (to cover the dirt, they said), I always loved that sound.
Cleaner roll than "Shaft"? Maybe the long roll in Spirit's "Devil Went
Down to Georgia" (1980)?
-Jack
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VCColy
Jack,
A lot of people may have complained that the tuned out the "dirt." Far from
the contrary. Bayonne's snare line was the real deal!!
As far as the second cleanest roll....nope...it wasn't Spirit in 1980's "Devil"
solo (although that was a clean one as well). Anyone else care to guess
again??
VC
VCC...@aol.com (Vic Colaianni)
William Scott Spicer
Worst sounding snares I have ever heard were Crossmen in '95. Jesus,
what the hell were they doing? They sounded like crap. The 95 tapes
make them sound even worse!
The best sounding snares I have heard were the 95 Cavies. They were
crisp as hell. They cut through really good. You could hear what they
were playing every time they touched the drum.
Some lines like BD or Scouts; you can't tell what the hell they are
playing half the time becuase the horns are busy blowing away the
audience. That's all great, but musically it isn't doing anything.
Spicer
Jim C
The roll you are referring to is Star 93. The one they played at a halt.
Gotta be it. You could drive a truck through those 32nds!!!
Jim C
VCColy wrote in message <19971212203...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Al
> > Oh, you mean the Premier TENDURA kevlar heads?...As far as I can
remember,
> > Thom Hannum has been using kevlar heads in his lines at Star, UMass,
and
> > Crossmen since 90 when star used plastic (I think it was 90...)
>
> Ummm... no, those would be the Premier MARATHON mylar heads - same ones
> Star had been using since at least '90. (BTW - I loved the sound they
> got out of those things - were the bottoms mylar or kevlar?)
>
> >
> -Sky
>
Ummmmmmm......NNNOOOO!
Star used Marathon heads from 85-91, and kevlar (Tendura or Flam I don't
know) from 92-94. They used Marathon heads again in 95 and 96. What they
used in 97 I don't know. I didn't see or hear them this year.
Alan
VCColy
JIM IS THE WINNER!!!!!!!
Star's roll in '93 at the halt is second only to Bayonne's 1982 roll in shaft.
Kind of ironic that Bob Dubinski was the instructor for both Bridgemen and
Star, huh??
Vic
VCC...@aol.com (Vic Colaianni)
Phillip A Williams
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Jim C wrote:
> The roll you are referring to is Star 93. The one they played at a halt.
> Gotta be it. You could drive a truck through those 32nds!!!
>
> Jim C
Funny, I have a slightly different memory of that roll...heard it dirty at
finals (though it was usually pretty tight). A friend of mine asked Nick
Angelis who it was...Nick said "well....I guess I got a little excited..."
:) The perpetrator caught red handed!
Phil
Eric and Lori Lund
> Star used Marathon heads from 85-91, and kevlar (Tendura or Flam I don't
> know) from 92-94. They used Marathon heads again in 95 and 96. What they
> used in 97 I don't know. I didn't see or hear them this year.
>
> Alan
Star did use the marathon head during the 1992 season. During that
season we had nine snare drummers and 14 snare drums. I changed every
snare head that whole summer. It took a few hundred double hooped
marathon heads to get through the season.
The tendura head was only used during the summer of 1993.
E. Lund
Drum Corps Junkie
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Roger M. Carter wrote:
> Huh. Too bad you weren't there. Obviously you listened to the video or CD
> recording, and heard the TERRIBLE sound quality and echo off of the front
> wall in Buffalo. Ask anyone who was there and knows what they are talking
> about, and they will tell you that the roll in day danse was EXTREMELY
> clean.
>
> I know that this probably sounds like a pathetic attempt to cover up some
> poor playing, but I SWEAR to you, that roll you refer to was the cleanest
> set of notes that I have ever played in a snare line. Unless you think that
> everything the Blue Devils drumline plays is of bad quality, then I assure
> you that the part to which you speak was played to, or exceeded the level of
> excellence you have come to expect from the BD snare line. It just was a
> matter of bad recording.
>
> Sorry if I sound defensive. I have a great sense of pride in that drumline,
> and especially THAT ROLL. When I hear a person slam it like that, It makes
> me angry.
>
> Roger Carter - BD center snare 1995
I understand your fustration. The recordings (both video and CD) really
don't tell the story. But although it was clean in '95, I always thought
it was tighter in '94. All through the season you guys consistantly
played the hell outta that roll. Just goes to show that drumming is not
quite dead yet. Thanx for giving me chills Roger.
BD fan,
Jason
Mark Cowling
Snareguy
The thing that must be remembered is that drum tunning is all relative. For
instance, Bass drums are tuned with the other basses in mind. It isn't just
crank 'em up till the glue crackles. Corrolary, snares must be tunned with th
whole drumline sound in mind. If you play as an ensemble the drums must sound
like an ensemble. People in this thread have said that they like both the
Dev's and the Cav's tunning. Quite a contrast. Dev's = WET so they can slur
notes and have sloppy attacks and they won't be noticed. Cav's use the
opposite. When the whole line plays it sounds like one drum. That is because
of the amount of snare vibration and because they are freaking TIGHT. Another
aspect about Cav's is that the writing utilizes the sounds to the fullest. The
guys know how to make the drumline heard when they need to be and there just
enough when they are needed in that way. The biggest problem with snare
tunning in drum corps is that a lot of people want *their* drum to sound the
best in the line. "ooh!! listen to mine!!" the problem with doing this is
that a member of the line can't hear the line from in front while playing on
his (or her I guess!!) own Drum. There are different tunnings for Field snares
and Field snares being used in an I&E solo.
This plus the facts that Cav's are TIGHT and have THE BEST sound quality are
what make their drumline, THE LINE.
The only line that came close to these standards in my opinion was ours when I
marched '72 Vinemount Crusaders. WE WERE TUFF.
SNAREGUY --- Le Garcon de snare
SnareGuy3
>SNAREGUY --- Le Garcon de snare
For the records, this IS NOT ME. I don't know what the deal is with aol people
now. First there was snaredrum3, now there's another snareguy. sigh...
Jason
The real "SnareGuy"
Knamaky
>The thing that must be remembered is that drum tunning is all relative. For
>instance, Bass drums are tuned with the other basses in mind. It isn't just
>crank 'em up till the glue crackles. Corrolary, snares must be tunned with
>th
>whole drumline sound in mind. If you play as an ensemble the drums must
>sound
>like an ensemble.
I agree.
> People in this thread have said that they like both the
>Dev's and the Cav's tunning.
If you're talking about snares, I don't like the Cav's tuning at all...
> Quite a contrast. Dev's = WET so they can slur
>notes and have sloppy attacks and they won't be noticed.
Devs drums are wet, but I wouldn't say they tune them that way "so they can
slur notes and have sloppy attacks and they won't be noticed."
> Cav's use the
>opposite.
I agree.
>When the whole line plays it sounds like one drum.
I don't agree.
> That is
>because
>of the amount of snare vibration and because they are freaking TIGHT.
I don't agree.
>Another
>aspect about Cav's is that the writing utilizes the sounds to the fullest.
>The
>guys know how to make the drumline heard when they need to be and there >just
>enough when they are needed in that way. The biggest problem with snare
>tunning in drum corps is that a lot of people want *their* drum to sound the
>best in the line. "ooh!! listen to mine!!" the problem with doing this is
>that a member of the line can't hear the line from in front while playing on
>his (or her I guess!!) own Drum.
Not neccessarily.
> There are different tunnings for Field
>snares
>and Field snares being used in an I&E solo.
I agree.
>This plus the facts that Cav's are TIGHT and have THE BEST sound quality >are
>what make their drumline, THE LINE.
I don't agree.
>The only line that came close to these standards in my opinion was ours when
>I
>marched '72 Vinemount Crusaders. WE WERE TUFF.
>
>SNAREGUY --- Le Garcon de snare
Kevin Namaky
Glassmen '96-present
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SnareGuy3
Kevin Knamaky writes:
>If you're talking about snares, I don't like the
>Cav's tuning at all...
They sound hollow to me.
Jason
Knamaky
>Kevin Knamaky writes:
what???
SnareGuy3
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Knamaky wrote in message <19971226025...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
Dirt Rolls
Ok, Snareguy said this about BD snare tuning
"Dev's = WET so they can slur
notes and have sloppy attacks and they won't be noticed. Cav's use the
opposite."
This is not true about BD. On the bottom of BD snares there is one to two
strands of tape on the snares and thats all. The drums are reefed very very
high (as high as anybodys if not higher with all the remo prototype heads)
so every drum is exposed, and nobody can hide with the tuning. They have to
be perfect, or it sounds like shit. To say they can slur notes and have
sloppy attacks without being noticed is crazy. If you want to hide in
tuning, you have to tune your drums like Cavs do with lots of tape on the
bottom heads and snares. Some lines I have checked out even use cotex pads
(Cadets, but they can drum), but no line is going to get away with bad
attacks, well then again, Cav's did in 95, check out the page of ticks.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/9438/index.html
Snareguy also said,
"This plus the facts that Cav's are TIGHT and have THE BEST sound quality
are
what make their drumline, THE LINE. "
Everybody can have their own opinion, but the fact of the matter is, BD
drumline RAMS shit no other line will even try.
I felt the urge to write this, because young kids that come into this group
might even thinks there is truth in what Snareguy says, when there isn't
any. Just so you know.
Al
SnareGuy3 <snar...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19971226021...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
That's a very good observation. Especially when you consider the fact that
DRUMS ARE HOLLOW! ;)
sorry, just couldn't resist.
Alan
VCColy
BD had sloppy attacks???? Maybe in January, but not in August!!!!!!
VC
VCC...@aol.com (Vic Colaianni)
RizzoPark
Dirt Rolls wrote:
>If you want to hide in
>tuning, you have to tune your drums like Cavs do with lots of tape on the
>bottom heads and snares.
Cavs only use 1 small piece of tape
Snareguy
Cav's were C L E A N in '95. Anybody who claims this is not true is either
some horn goof, or in a line that has always tried to keep up with the machine,
but fail every year.
There is no sense in aruguing over who is better, it's a matter of opinion.
H O W E V E R,
wet drums, H I D E ticks. the snares resonate over top of the notes. One
snare has a longer sound the one dry snare drum and with a longer sound there
is more room for error. Dev's have wet drums. I am not *saying* that dev's
*have* dirty attacks
(however the implication is definately there)
When you aren't stellar all the time, there is a grey area in the sound of the
drumline ticks don't stand out as much because the ear is used to a film of
sound. However, if you are clean 99% of the time that 1% is extremely
noticable.
"This is not true about BD. On the bottom of BD snares there is one to two
strands of tape on the snares and thats all"
exactly, there drums are wet, as I said.
"Ok, Snareguy said this about BD snare tuning
"Dev's = WET so they can slur
notes and have sloppy attacks and they won't be noticed. Cav's use the
opposite."
Get a clue.
"They have to be perfect, or it sounds like shit."
No human can be perfect so I'll give you that.
"I felt the urge to write this, because young kids that come into this group
might even thinks there is truth in what Snareguy says, when there isn't any.
Just so you know."
I have proven that there is truth in what I say. Can you do the same? I doubt
it.
S N A R E g u y --- hence the knowledge of snare drums.
MIKE DUFFY
Snareguy wrote:
> Cav's were C L E A N in '95. Anybody who claims this is not true is either
> some horn goof, (WELL, EXCUSE US!)
>
> or in a line that has always tried to keep up with the machine,
> but fail every year.
> S N A R E g u y --- hence the knowledge of snare drums.
Horns Hypin' Them TUNES To The Box
McDuffy
BKBASS1
well, i have gathered that you are a cavaliers fan, but i must disagree with
your descrption of tuning and how it relates to sound quality.
first of all, the cavaliers reef their drums, choke off the snares, and PUT
PATCHES ON THE BATTER HEADS! to completely bone-dry virtually all resonance and
snare sound out of the drums so dirt wont be so obvious. sencond of all, i dont
see how you can even talk about the cavaliers' drums having good sound quality,
because the stroke type utilized by those lines has been one where their
fingers are clenched on the stick, a harsh, staccato stroke is slammed into the
head, and stopped-all shock going directly into the wrist. with that type of
stroke, your option for sound quality are
1)harsh
2)choked off
2 words: tendon and - itis
BKBASS1
well, to set the record straight, BD WAS using the REMO experimentals, but got
rid of them because they could hear individual players sticking out, so they
reverted to falams.
hmm......ever heard of BALANCE?
MARSELLSRE
Cavies, BD, why no pearl lines in this discussion. Vanguard and Crossmen both
used the new experimental remo heads and I thought they sounded much richer
then any yamaha snare. Cavies and BD's reefed up snares led to a choked
sound. I would much rather hear a resonent snare sound.
MARSELLSRE
I personally think that yamaha drums produce a thin quality sound. The way
cavs tune their snares doesn't help. I've never met anybody who liked the
sound of their snares. As for their quality of sound, It's not good. Their
sound, which can be confused with tight though it's not, as well as their look
leads me to believe that they are very tense when they play. This alone will
lead to poor inconsistant sound quality.
Luckyjason
You obviously have no idea what their technique is really like. They have an
ex-BD snare on their snare staff. You might know him......his name is Mike
MacIntosh......Marched since 87 (I think).....and section leader in 1990. Why
don't you ask somebody about it before you bash it.
Thanks,
Jason
DefLep83
this will be his first year, dumbass!>
Luckyjason
Look man, I'm not here to make you mad, so don't get pushy with me. I know
this is going to be his first year. I marched with cavies last year, and I'm
amrching this year on the snareline, so please don't be rude to me. I've done
nothing to you.
Thanks,
Jason
Snareguy
this isn't about anyone. this thread is about the tunning of snare drums.
maybe we all need to get a little bit of focus here.
I heard that pearl has a new snare with top guts. is that true? I know of all
the other companies that do make them but I didn't know that Pearl did. I was
talking to a guy a Ludwig and he said that it is only in the beginning stages
there.
I'm not sure if I like pipe drums for corps. But then again they only had
mylar in my day..
Snareguy
George Collins
Luckyjason wrote:
>
> You obviously have no idea what their technique is really like. They have an
> ex-BD snare on their snare staff. You might know him......his name is Mike
> MacIntosh......Marched since 87 (I think).....and section leader in 1990. Why
> don't you ask somebody about it before you bash it.
>
> Jason
Mike McIntosh! Hey Jason, please let him know I say hello (if he
remembers me). He was one of my early inspirations. By the way, he
marched BD 88-90. I heard a rumor about this. Should be some
interesting results. Good luck.
BKBASS1
how, if at all, has Mac changed the approach to the snare technique at
Cavaliers so far?
just curious
nad
Snareguy
I Guess we'll all see that in the summer.
Go Green.
I think they should hire my old instructor from Vinemount Crusaders. John
MacCula!!
Luckyjason
Well, MacIntosh has changed our mental approach to drumming and we have spent
more time on playing like eachother than just playing. Mac is very intense
about playing like one person rather than playing like a drum corps snareline.
And to George, I will tell Mac you said hey. I'm sure he would remmember you.
Jason
William Scott Spicer
Mac hasn't changed the technique. It is the same. He is really
psyched about the upcoming summer. Mac is the snare tech,Bret Kuhn is
caption head.
Aalkmtls
I don't have as much experience as many of you on this thread, but I was very
disappointed in the Crossmen snare sound from the Pearl drum this year as
opposed to the Premiers. I also have much respect for Yamahas, both Cavies and
BD. The most important aspect for me as a spectator is if the snare cuts
through. A lot of times good writing is masked by poor tuning.
VCColy
Tuning is all in the hand of the tuner..... Some folks know how, and some
don't!!! Some also like the sound of a formica counter top as is eveidenced by
the sound we hear from a bunch of lines.
VC
VCC...@aol.com (Vic Colaianni)
SnareGuy3
Just curious, what kind of heads did Glassmen use in 1995? They are silver. I'm
not sure if they are mylar or kevlar...
Jason Lowe
Knamaky
They are regular mylar heads. I don't think they are silver, though......
SnareGuy3
Kevin Namaky writes:
>They are regular mylar heads. I don't think they are silver, >though......
That's what I thought. They aren't silver? Hmm.
Thanks
Jason
Thatcher97
>>They are regular mylar heads. I don't think they are silver, >though......
>
>That's what I thought. They aren't silver? Hmm.
>
>Thanks
>Jason
I don't know if the heads are silver, but I know that Remo makes (or at least,
used to make) a silver version of the Powerstroke marching head. (With that
useless rubber gasket in the collar) Maybe that's it? (it's a mylar head, but
it's heavier.)
-rt
SnareGuy3
>I don't know if the heads are silver, but
>I know that Remo makes (or at least, used
>to make) a silver version of the Powerstroke
>marching head.
I believe those are the ones Glassmen used in 95, like I had asked. I can't
tell... I will look again.
Jason
Al
SnareGuy3 wrote in message
<19980118002...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
What the Glassmen used in '95, which at the time was experimental, is now
known as the Powerstroke 77.
Alan
Glassmen '96-98
snare
Drew (Drum Exchange)
glassmen used plastic heads in 95, in 96 they used an expierimental high tension
fyberskyn head, in 97 they used ebony falam heads
Mar-Jean A Zamperini
In article <19980117044...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
snar...@aol.com (SnareGuy3) wrote:
> Just curious, what kind of heads did Glassmen use in 1995? They are
silver. I'm
> not sure if they are mylar or kevlar...
>
> Jason Lowe
I didnt get to see them up close, but I will bet that they were mylar.
Back in the late 1980's when I marched at Pitt, we had all gold heads, and
they were mylar Powerstrokes. They sure were cool, and actually lasted
quite long. We loved screwing with the football players and the TV
cameras on sunny days! Photographers loved to take pictures using the
reflections off the bass drum heads! I know that Remo quit making these
around 1990 or so, because we couldnt get them anymore. Maybe they
started again? I suppose that you could use a kevlar head and put the
metallic stuff on top, just like the white or black.
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'96-'97 Rochester Crusaders, Bari
'95 Butler Soundwave, Pit
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Al
Drew (Drum Exchange) wrote in message <34C378C0...@tir.com>...
>glassmen used plastic heads in 95, in 96 they used an expierimental high
tension
>fyberskyn head, in 97 they used ebony falam heads
>
You're almost right. In fact you're exatly right until you brought up 97. We
only used ebony falams in May, and that was before we got our new copper
drums. From the beginning to the end of tour, the heads were white.
Alan Frye
Glassmen '96-'98
snare
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Knamaky
> in 97 they used ebony falam heads
nope. plain old flam II's (remo)
BKBASS1
were the heads from '96 called Reemlar?
nad
MrOrange19
they were called Kevy-My-Flam-Ar- K-Series Super