BLUE DEVILS, WHY DO THEY DO SO WELL?
princ...@my-deja.com
Championships? 1999, 1997, 1996! I HATE Phantom Regiment and even I
thought Phantom should have won in 1996.
Blue Devils have NO DIFFICULTY IN THEIR DRILL! Their horns play great-
but only played less than 7 minutes in 1999 and the can't march for
crap! There one element with slight difficulty was a rotating box and
it was a BIG MESS!
Shit- Colts could win if they performed a Blue Devils show!
I hate BD because they are cocky and deserve to be knocked down a notch!
Someone in BD actually wrote me and said that they tell people who
didn't make it to try out for SCV cause they'd have better luck. Sorry
BD but SCV Kicks your aSS!
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bari...@my-deja.com
what a bunch of hairy judges
what a bunch of fat guys
stupid gay judges
hehahehehahahehehaha
(stupid comments of the day ladies and gentlemen)
Ben
Wale
myself, but don't dis on PR man! Their music kicks ass and they have an
amazing horn line.
DevSop00
award us championships because we deserve them. If you would open your eyes
up and examine the facts there should be no doubt that our corps deserves to
come out on top. Where did you march again? Yeah, that's what I thought, no
where even apparently worth mentioning. The difficulty in our shows isn't
ovbious becuase we make it look easy, don't you get it? I would like to see
you get out there and attepmpt to march any BD show. I'm not going to knock
SCV because they are a good corps and everyone knows that, and I have a lot
of respect for them. If you don't know what you are talking about, which
clearly you don't, you shouldnt post up here. Hmm, our "big mess" box,
where was that again? I had imense trouble finding it when I watched the
videos. Seriously now, did you actually time how much we played last year
to make your little denigration? It's really unfortunate that you are
passing judgements on a corps that apparently you know nothing about.
MPL
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Paul Bieraugel
understand where you are coming from because I was there once. I too looked
at BD and wondered what made them tick and why they were so good. I was in
awe and intimidated just like most on the outside of a great corps. Well I
got the stones and went to Concord and marched there for two years and I
must tell you that it was fantastic. Do they have a burning desire to win
championships? Yes. Do they design the show to be a winner? Yes. Was I
disappointed to go undefeated and lose at finals? Yes but I got over it in
about 10 minutes. They are highly competitive but, at the same time, they
are a real tight family group just like another corps I marched. Many
people think BD is "cocky" because they have never tried to interact with
them after a show to see that there are real people in there. I always
amazed me how "standoff-ish" other corps members seemed while waiting for
retreat. And another thing...anyone who marches a summer in corps deserves
to be congratulated. Everyone out on that field has worked hard regardless
if they are the world champion or 17th place (my first year).
PattyBush
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> Thats pretty gay
> what a bunch of hairy judges
> what a bunch of fat guys
> stupid gay judges
>
> hehahehehahahehehaha
> (stupid comments of the day ladies and gentlemen)
> Ben
>
> princ...@my-deja.com wrote:
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Drubert22
>Championships? 1999, 1997, 1996! I HATE Phantom Regiment and even I
>thought Phantom should have won in 1996.
>
>Blue Devils have NO DIFFICULTY IN THEIR DRILL! Their horns play great-
>but only played less than 7 minutes in 1999 and the can't march for
>crap! There one element with slight difficulty was a rotating box and
>it was a BIG MESS!
>
>Shit- Colts could win if they performed a Blue Devils show!
>
>I hate BD because they are cocky and deserve to be knocked down a notch!
>
>Someone in BD actually wrote me and said that they tell people who
>didn't make it to try out for SCV cause they'd have better luck. Sorry
>BD but SCV Kicks your aSS!
>
You're a moron. Get a clue pal. The Blue devils are really good and so are the
colts. You put them both down in your statement. I know that you havent marched
before by the shit attitude you have. If you didn't beat em' don't knock em'.
So please go to the rec.arts.marching.band board!!!
Scott Gordon
: I HATE Phantom Regiment
: I hate BD
nice guy, and a real supporter of the activity
Reel Feel
>thought Phantom should have won in 1996.
What does your hating of PR have to do with whether they should have won
or not?
Matt
Peart101
J.
Phan 4Ever
Convismus
time. Yes, there are many great horn lines out there, but have you stood in
front of a Blue Devil hronline and listened to the clarity of sound? They
always carry that to the field consistenly, while other corps dabble in
inconsistency.It is no secret that the Blue Devils drill isn't earthshaking.
Quite frankly it is boring. Blue devils wish they could have SCV's drill.
Blue Devils, like them or not, always seem to have that extra spark on Saturday
night when it counts. I will always believe Phantom kicked their asses in 96'
though, and so do many other fans out there!!! Phantom was the clear champion
that night!!
Convismus
BayouCityBrent
their drill and horn charts. I dont' care much for the design of their
drills but what they do definitely is NOT easy! I wanted SCV to win the
'99 championship all to themselves and I tried the best I could to
validate that but I had to give it up for the Devils. They were in
better controll of their performance especially visually and of course
the hornline was impeccable.
Shaun P. Hickson
Shaun
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> WHY do the judges continually award the Blue Devils with UNDESERVED
> Championships? 1999, 1997, 1996! I HATE Phantom Regiment and even I
> thought Phantom should have won in 1996.
>
> Blue Devils have NO DIFFICULTY IN THEIR DRILL! Their horns play great-
> but only played less than 7 minutes in 1999 and the can't march for
> crap! There one element with slight difficulty was a rotating box and
> it was a BIG MESS!
>
> Shit- Colts could win if they performed a Blue Devils show!
>
> I hate BD because they are cocky and deserve to be knocked down a notch!
>
> Someone in BD actually wrote me and said that they tell people who
> didn't make it to try out for SCV cause they'd have better luck. Sorry
> BD but SCV Kicks your aSS!
>
>
Danny Ruiz
>You are right on some accounts, but there has been no finer hornline in
some
>time. Yes, there are many great horn lines out there, but have you stood
in
>front of a Blue Devil hronline and listened to the clarity of sound?
Hehe, did that Finals 98 with some friends; at retreat, as soon as we saw
them forming an arc I ran over and got to the front, standing smack in
front of the sops. To this day (a whole year and a half later :), I have
yet to hear any single instrument (much less the entire hornline!) quite as
loud as the sop standing one foot from my right ear.
Could I hear anything afterwards? Nope. Worth it? Absolutely. :)
L8s...
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opinion...great.
bob_abe
not the one winning....try to justify why your not.....And in this case
I think this guy doesn't realize what it's like to be on the
field....Hey I'll be honest...there's been times I've watched A Dev's
show, or anybody's show for that matter and said How the hell did that
beat us....then the next night...I could be like damn...those guys are
bad ass......Bottom line is they get it done....I have nothing but the
utmost respect for them and any other corps...
In article <8ffs7e$7h8$1...@news.cc.ukans.edu>,
> <princ...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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TommyD225
Stefanie Cheng
>
Ooooh...so THAT'S it.
Scott Gordon
: BD ALWAYS KISSES DCI ASS SO THEY GET THE BIG PUSH
DCI *is* the other corps... so your statement is nonsensical.
Scott
Daniel O'Neal
For the record, I didn't much care for the Devs shows in '96 thru '98,
but I still gotta give them credit for performing the shit out of their
shows. As for '99, hell, I loved it. In my opinion, I thought they
should have won outright, but that's neither here nor there.
If they told people who get cut to go to SCV, that's probably because
for a few years there, SCV was having some trouble attracting members.
Not the case anymore, I assume. I wish more kids that get cut from one
corps would try out for another. I hate that some people get cut from
their favorite corps, and then never march at all.
Anyway, if the Devils are cocky, they sort of deserve to be. I sure
wouldn't say that their championships were gifts. I also notice that
this is a disguised "judge conspiracy" post -- as if they sit down and
figure out exactly what the point spreads will be before the show
starts. There may be some bias, but it's not like they deliberately
engineered the results.
BOY1230
just as many that say otherwise,oh yeah, and the judges and the score show
otherwise. How many times did PR beat BD in 1996?? how many times did BD beat
PR in 96?? What captions were given to whom??? How many titles do the Blue
Devils have on their own?? How many does PR have??Ironically, these are my two
favorite corps, I love them equally, but the ignorance here is forcing me to
take sides...sad sad sad-------------------
Since 1976 The Blue Devils have dominated this activity with
uniquity,cinsistency,class,talent,and sophistication. There is not one year
That they own the title that they shouldn't have. There are many years where
thet didnt get the title that they should have. Their instructional staff,and
their entire orginization is the epitome of calss,and proper role models for
our young people. Why are their "drills" being highlighted as bad,easy,etc...I
would like to see some other top corps play with such command and ease and
march a drill that is more"demanding".
The whole package is what puts the Devils ahead of their next competitiors.
Without them this orginization will fail.
As far as Brass,General effect,and Color guard go, there is no one in the DCI
history that can touch 'em,and dont bring up Garfield,either. Their Color guard
style has been exactly the same since 1989,as has their drill since 1983!!
nothing new or innovative.The times they have won(deservedly) was because of
strength,not innovation. as far as 1999 goes,IMO,how did SCV tie the Devils??
Overall their show lacked the polish of a champion,and the guard was
unrefined,not enhancing or adding to the music at all,....DONT FLAME ME I love
them,always have,always will.I even loved 1993!! Ha ha ha...The staement made
by "Igor" is uncalled for, I think he owes an apology to the colts, and to all
members that sweat,and try to entertain.
BOY1230
heads with the Judges,and always push the envelope,if they wanted to, they
could easily compromise, and have 5 more titles...where are your facts to
substantiate your statements,where did you march?? what are your credentials??
what are you offering to us ??
Nikk Pilato
> just as many that say otherwise,oh yeah, and the judges and the score show
> otherwise. How many times did PR beat BD in 1996?? how many times did BD beat
> PR in 96?? What captions were given to whom??? How many titles do the Blue
> Devils have on their own?? How many does PR have??Ironically, these are my two
> favorite corps, I love them equally, but the ignorance here is forcing me to
> take sides...sad sad sad-------------------
Whoa there....what does the number of titles, and the number of victories
*prior* to Finals Night have to do with anything? Are you saying that if
Corps B performs better than Corps A, Corps A should *still* receive the
title because they went undefeated in the regular season? Or because they
have more titles than Corps B?
You have to be careful about how you say things. The fact that Devils
have more titles than PR means nothing. The fact that PR did not score
above BD in the regular season means nothing. The only thing that matters
is how Regiment performed against how Devs performed on SATURDAY NIGHT.
Otherwise, we may as well start handing out titles based on season
averages, instead of a "Finals Competition."
From my obviously biased viewpoint, Regiment was better than Devils on
Finals night, at least from where I was sitting. I was happy with the
tie. I don't mind...but I still know deep in my biased, partial heart
that Regiment "won" that night...(probably just as much as some others
KNOW that BD "won" that night). Circular argument.
++
np
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read.the.damn.faq.newbies
"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper"
-T.S. Eliot
bob_abe
point....here's another idea....if you hate seeing the Dev's win so
much...go make another corps and work your arss off to try to beet
them....It's easy to complain from the sideline..because your corps
isn't winning.....try doing something about....we need more people in
other corps to feel this...make them work that much harder to knock them
off.....just an opinion.
In article <391C2E...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>,
Eleiko
>Devils have on their own?? How many does PR have??
So Phantom shouldn't have won because the Devils usually win?
>
>Since 1976 The Blue Devils have dominated this activity with
>uniquity,cinsistency,class,talent,and sophistication.
They are an excellent corps, no doubt there.
There is not one year
>That they own the title that they shouldn't have.
That's an opinion, IMHO serveral corps have titles they don't deserve.
There are many years where
>thet didnt get the title that they should have.
Name one.
Their instructional staff,and
>their entire orginization is the epitome of calss,and proper role models for
>our young people. Why are their "drills" being highlighted as
>bad,easy,etc...I
>would like to see some other top corps play with such command and ease and
>march a drill that is more"demanding".
SCV and Cadets, not to mention the fact that Star in 93 played harder show than
Devs did in 99.
>The whole package is what puts the Devils ahead of their next competitiors.
Usually is.
>Without them this orginization will fail.
>As far as Brass,General effect,and Color guard go, there is no one in the DCI
>history that can touch 'em,and dont bring up Garfield,either.
Why not? They have done more for innovations in drum corps than Devs ever have.
Their Color
>guard
>style has been exactly the same since 1989,
Funny, I don't see that at all
as has their drill since 1983!!
Right. So when are Devs gonna catch up?
>nothing new or innovative.
As opposed to devs 999 when their "innovative" move was the same rotating
blocks that Cavs have done for 10 years!
The times they have won(deservedly) was because of
>strength,not innovation.
And Devs was innovation?
as far as 1999 goes,IMO,how did SCV tie the Devils??
>Overall their show lacked the polish of a champion,and the guard was
>unrefined,not enhancing or adding to the music at all
Why did they tie? I don't know. how did devs tie with people marching into each
other? (middle of the opener, sop backs into bari - it made the broadcast.)
,....DONT FLAME ME I
>love
>them,always have,always will.I even loved 1993!! Ha ha ha...The staement made
>by "Igor" is uncalled for, I think he owes an apology to the colts, and to
>all
>members that sweat,and try to entertain.
I would agree, and I LOVE Blue devils. But their 99 show left me very flat;
both live and on the broadcast. SCV was clearly the superior corps that night.
And probably the best since Star 93.
Andy Austin CSCS
Kinetic Fitness Systems
Function Creating Form
Killr Baud
Abigkid6
Corps is the Bugle and the sound. Well, when you have the best brass man on
staff, and normally take High Horns, you might win a title or 9.
CruBari1
>For as many fans there are that beleive Phantom "kicked" their
>asses, there are just as many that say otherwise,oh yeah, and
>the judges and the score show otherwise.
>What captions were given >to whom???
>As far as Brass,General effect,and Color guard go, there is no
>one in the DCI history that can touch 'em,and dont bring up
>same since 1989,as has their drill since 1983!! nothing new or
>innovative.The times they have won(deservedly) was because of
>strength,not innovation. as far as 1999 goes,IMO,how did SCV
>tie the Devils?? Overall their show lacked the polish of a
>champion,and the guard was unrefined,not enhancing or adding to
Boyo brings up a few cases for adjudication:
First off ... Colorguard? Devils? For years, Devs never had a
guard, just a rhythmic gymnastics squad. Lately they've been
good. But if you want to talk history, Boyo, there's little of
that in BD's guard.
Case dismissed!
Cadets have been innovating for years, they haven't petrified
since 1983. In fact, to hear the whining by some on RAMD,
they've been TOO innovative.
Case dismissed!
I wasn't at Orlando in 1996. I watch the TV broadcast and read
recaps for my opinion. OK, smart guy: PR beat Devs in Brass AND
GE that night. Talk about losing home-field advantage. For
years, PR could never generate the kind of effect that was
needed to win. Then they overtake BD in BD's bread-and-butter
captions. And despite their toughness come Saturday night, BD
never pulled off the fifth-to-third-to-first leap that PR pulled
off in 1996. I very rarely come upon someone who says BD should
have won that night hands down, but I do occasionally run into
someone who says Phantom should have won.
Case Dismissed!
I was at Madison in 1999, so I can tell you first-hand, Devils
were lucky to tie SCV. For a corps that turns it up on
Saturdays, BD was flat (for them) that night, not like they were
the night before. All around me Sat. night, I could tell who the
drummers were, because all through BD's show they were the ones
cringing with every gakk the snare line threw out. Friday night
SCV had the perc problems; Saturday was BD's turn.
Not that on an absolute scale BD's show was easy, but relative
to SCV, BD's show wasn't even close. SCV's show was, to me,
hardest thing ever attempted on a football field. The exposure
was incredible! Yes, they had glitches. Who wouldn't?
SCV turned it up on Saturday, BD did not. SCV needed perfection
to beat BD. BD needed emotion. Neither hit a home run, but the
triples they did hit sufficed for the tie. I knew it would be
close and I told my friends that I couldn't predict the winner.
Historically, I'm a way bigger fan of BD than SCV, but that
night my heart said, "SCV." I was disappointed in the tie, but
not surprised.
Case Dismissed!
In both first-place ties, the title was BD's to lose, and they
damn near did. Chalk up moral victories for '99 SCV & '96 PR.
Case closed! This court's adjourned.
Dale Fine, Baritone
Steel City Ambassadors 1987
Butler Soundwave 1995
Rochester Crusaders 1996-present
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Reel Feel
You guess? I KNOW it's possible. It's happened more times in DCI history
than it hasn't.
Matt
Bananer79
>
>
Obviously a rookie... =)
Slothsloth
I know that I have taken this quote out of context, but I must say this. Yes,
BD is a wonderful drum corps. But no one, not even BD deserves to be cocky. It
has been my experience as a trumpet player,(you know cause all trumpet players
are suposed to be cocky),that if you let onesself get too cocky, there will be
someone waiting there to humble you. Let your playing speak for itself not
necessarily the attitude.
BOY1230
performance and presentation, I only responded to the "phantom kicked their
asses" Nobodys "ass" was "kicked" by either one. THey bothe rose,and met the
challenge. The tie,to me believe it or not is one of my personal most happiest
moment in my 21yrs in DCI.....whew,Spanish?? Just Italian!!!
BOY1230
a fiasco in which,as you know prleiminaries were slotted by pulling your spot
out of a hat!! BD were undefeated that year and fell to third,MAdison was
"claimed" to have such a rousing performance that the title was theirs
outright. I was there BD was better(imo)
same thing 1995 The corps consistently outscored their competition with a
difficult show,but the "Dark" theme landed them in 3rd!!
arguably 1981,1984,and 1985 could have went to them too. I was satisfied with
the winners but it could have gone to them....
BOY1230
absolute truth,what with such credentials that you have...(hey,send me a copy
of a tape of one of your DCI finals performances....whats that?..you dont have
one!!!!!..oops)case closed.
Colorguard,well I'll go back to 1982,That was when BD took their first
colorguard trophy home way back in 1982,where were you?? I was there...then
oops it shappened again in 1984,1986,1990,1992,....ya know what I cant even
remeber for sure what other years they got it, its all a blur of perfection
lately....(anyone that knows I would love to know)
1990 saw Scott Chandler take over and really give the already award winning
guard a new image,Tommy earned them first place in CG,with the use of dance nad
innivative equipment,1992 another innovation for the corps,MEN!! and wow what a
performance,Dice,men,women,oh,and perfection another award!!!!
My spanish heart gave us Sabres,lots of them,to go woth lots of awards that the
CG has been racking up...(then we turn our sights indoors,how many titles at
WGI??)
...please,Dayl-o BD,and CG go hand in hand
Case Closed
Cadets drill style has a name:"hit your spot,run alot" and run they do,so
fast,and so sloppy,why my friend intervall is very rarely seen at a cadets
show...hey,lets add so many props and themes that the focus will be taken off
of our same old drill and same old impacts,and same old marching,and same old
colorguard work(I know,well change silks this year,well look
different)....(sorry members)
too innovative?? when,Picninc blankets,sicles,bomber jackets,gym dances,box
dancing,hoe-downs,oh I see, youre right...sorry
NOT......Cased closed
Taking over BD in their Bread and butter captions?? they are ALL their bread
and butter captions..smart guy??thank you,how did you know I had a masters in
finance!! Thanks......im bored of you,and tired of writing
case closed
me
and play loud.
Paul Bieraugel wrote:
> It's quite clear that you have no idea what you are talking about and I can
> understand where you are coming from because I was there once. I too looked
> at BD and wondered what made them tick and why they were so good. I was in
> awe and intimidated just like most on the outside of a great corps. Well I
> got the stones and went to Concord and marched there for two years and I
> must tell you that it was fantastic. Do they have a burning desire to win
> championships? Yes. Do they design the show to be a winner? Yes. Was I
> disappointed to go undefeated and lose at finals? Yes but I got over it in
> about 10 minutes. They are highly competitive but, at the same time, they
> are a real tight family group just like another corps I marched. Many
> people think BD is "cocky" because they have never tried to interact with
> them after a show to see that there are real people in there. I always
> amazed me how "standoff-ish" other corps members seemed while waiting for
> retreat. And another thing...anyone who marches a summer in corps deserves
> to be congratulated. Everyone out on that field has worked hard regardless
> if they are the world champion or 17th place (my first year).
me
corps. Maybe the drill was just hard for you.
DevSop00 wrote:
> Hey man, those are some pretty strong statements. The judges indeniably
> award us championships because we deserve them. If you would open your eyes
> up and examine the facts there should be no doubt that our corps deserves to
> come out on top. Where did you march again? Yeah, that's what I thought, no
> where even apparently worth mentioning. The difficulty in our shows isn't
> ovbious becuase we make it look easy, don't you get it? I would like to see
> you get out there and attepmpt to march any BD show. I'm not going to knock
> SCV because they are a good corps and everyone knows that, and I have a lot
> of respect for them. If you don't know what you are talking about, which
> clearly you don't, you shouldnt post up here. Hmm, our "big mess" box,
> where was that again? I had imense trouble finding it when I watched the
> videos. Seriously now, did you actually time how much we played last year
> to make your little denigration? It's really unfortunate that you are
> passing judgements on a corps that apparently you know nothing about.
>
> MPL
> --
> Michal Lisowyj
> Blue Devils Soprano 99-00
> http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~mlisowyj
>
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BOY1230 wrote:
> For as many fans there are that beleive Phantom"kicked" their asses, there are
> just as many that say otherwise,oh yeah, and the judges and the score show
> otherwise. How many times did PR beat BD in 1996?? how many times did BD beat
> PR in 96?? What captions were given to whom??? How many titles do the Blue
> Devils have on their own?? How many does PR have??Ironically, these are my two
> favorite corps, I love them equally, but the ignorance here is forcing me to
> take sides...sad sad sad-------------------
>
> Since 1976 The Blue Devils have dominated this activity with
> uniquity,cinsistency,class,talent,and sophistication. There is not one year
> That they own the title that they shouldn't have. There are many years where
> thet didnt get the title that they should have. Their instructional staff,and
> their entire orginization is the epitome of calss,and proper role models for
> our young people. Why are their "drills" being highlighted as bad,easy,etc...I
> would like to see some other top corps play with such command and ease and
> march a drill that is more"demanding".
> The whole package is what puts the Devils ahead of their next competitiors.
> Without them this orginization will fail.
> As far as Brass,General effect,and Color guard go, there is no one in the DCI
> history that can touch 'em,and dont bring up Garfield,either. Their Color guard
> style has been exactly the same since 1989,as has their drill since 1983!!
> nothing new or innovative.The times they have won(deservedly) was because of
> strength,not innovation. as far as 1999 goes,IMO,how did SCV tie the Devils??
> Overall their show lacked the polish of a champion,and the guard was
> unrefined,not enhancing or adding to the music at all,....DONT FLAME ME I love
me
YOU MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE TOILET WHEN SCOUTS WERE ON TO THINK THAT BD WAS BETTER.
LOL LOL LOL
Danny Ruiz
<20000512155709...@ng-cp1.aol.com>...
>beating devs? easier said than done :) I guess it's possible...
I'm a sucker for the Blue Devils (really, haven't yet heard a show I didn't
like), but they can be defeated. How many wins did they have when Star was
in the game? I'm fairly certain that they didn't take High Horns the 4 years
(1990-1993) that Star was in peak form, because Star either won it outright
or shared it (can't recall exactly). At Finals those 4 years, as great as
BD was, they were always left below Star.
L8s...
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>
> ARE YOU CRAZY-----SCOUTS SHOW IN 1988 WAS ONE OF THE BEST FINAL SHOWS OF ALL TIME.
> YOU MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE TOILET WHEN SCOUTS WERE ON TO THINK THAT BD WAS BETTER.
Now it's clear that you really are a nutcase. Oh, well.
Jeff J Weir
> oops it shappened again in 1984,1986,1990,1992,....ya know what I cant even
> remeber for sure what other years they got it, its all a blur of perfection
> lately....(anyone that knows I would love to know)
You conveniently skipped 1993... All I can say is that Cadets guard is
more consistent year to year (IMO). They stretch some boundaries and
consistently execute. Devils guard a "blur of perfection" in '93? No, I
don't think so... And yes, I marched Cadets (horn)...
> innivative equipment,1992 another innovation for the corps,MEN!! and
> wow what a performance,Dice,men,women,oh,and perfection another
> award!!!!
So innovation for BD means adding men to the guard? When a corps adds
something to their guard that (almost) everyone else already has... hardly
a definition of innovation. I do agree that this performance was great,
but it was definitely effect oriented.
> My spanish heart gave us Sabres,lots of them,to go woth
> lots of awards that the CG has been racking up...(then we turn our
> sights indoors,how many titles at WGI??) ...please,Dayl-o BD,and CG go
> hand in hand Case Closed
I loved BD in 94... more so than in 95... Very nice to see, however, that
after an "off" year guard-wise (93), they bounce back with an incredible
guard in 94. I heard a rumor that in 94, almost the entire guard was
"imported" from San Jose the year before??
> Cadets drill style has a name:"hit your spot,run alot" and run they do,so
> fast,and so sloppy,why my friend intervall is very rarely seen at a cadets
> show...hey,lets add so many props and themes that the focus will be taken off
> of our same old drill and same old impacts,and same old marching,and same old
> colorguard work(I know,well change silks this year,well look
> different)....(sorry members)
No comment... ok,, maybe a couple. Cadets drill from 83-92 (or so) was the
definition of innovating. Any drill writer would agree... at
least up to '89. Personally, I haven't enjoyed the drills since as much,
but that is just an opinion. 93 was ok. 94-present left me a little empty,
as an alum and as a drill writer. Also, some demand issues have begun to
creep into the marching execution at Cadets, again just IMO.
> too innovative?? when,Picninc blankets,sicles,bomber jackets,gym dances,box
> dancing,hoe-downs,oh I see, youre right...sorry
These were effect oriented... exactly the same as BD stripping down at the
end of their '92 show.... no different. Find me a drop on any one of those
finals performances where Cadets had picnic blankets, bomber jackets,
etc... effect and execution are (almost) independent.
> Taking over BD in their Bread and butter captions?? they are ALL their
> bread and butter captions..
I think anyone that has been around the activity would argue that brass is
BD's "bread-and-butter". They have had some incredible years drum-wise,
too. But I (personally) don't think of BD as a visually oriented corps.
Their strengths are definitely in the music captions from where I'm
sitting. I don't think their drill is especially exciting, but what I find
incredible is that the hornline can play so well on the move, hard drill
or easy drill.
For the record, I marched bari in Cadets in '91, and am currently the
director/drill writer for the US Naval Academy Drum & Bugle Corps.
Jeff
Martin McIsaac
provides. They and Madison have the best financial foundation in all of d.c.
(excluding Star). When an organization can concentrate solely on the product and
not paying last year arrears, good things usually happen.
I wish all drum corps had their business acumen and resources.
Marty McIsaac
Michael E. Schmidt
They have always been nice to me.
I have often watched a BD soloist perform,
then 15 minutes later I would be talking to him or her.
I have even spoke with the drum majors right after a show.
They have always been nice and polite to me, never"cocky".
People are in "awe" of BD because they are good, no doubt about it.
Over the years BD has proven to be the finest corps in D.C.I.
over and over again.
Howdy
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In article <O3MS4.45795$vN5.9...@news-east.usenetserver.com>, "Paul
Drubert22
>chest
>provides. They and Madison have the best financial foundation in all of d.c.
>(excluding Star). When an organization can concentrate solely on the product
>and
>not paying last year arrears, good things usually happen.
>I wish all drum corps had their business acumen and resources.
>Marty McIsaac
>
>BOY1230 wrote:
>
Money is one thing but debt is another!!!
Matthew Smith
if this kind of competition is really that important, let's forget about
it--this stuff leads to hate which is not cool.
In 96 when I saw Phantom I was like Damn that's an incredible show. When I saw
BD that same night I was like Damn that's an incredible show. This past summer
when I watched SCV from the sideline I was like Damn that's an incredible show.
When I watched BD from the sideline I was like Damn that's an incredible show.
See a trend?
My point is that each corps contributes something very different to the
activity, and no one corps--especially the top corps discussed here--should be
the object of mud-slinging. I mean, really--every corps has weaknesses we
could all easily point out, but what's the point in doing so?
The point of competition is to make yourself better--not to tear each other
down.
I can't wait to see all of you on the field this summer! I know it's going to
be awesome again. Good luck to everyone!
==============================
Matthew Smith
Madison Scouts 98-99
Staff, Spirit of Atlanta 2000
May You Never Walk Alone
==============================
HAiNe13th
was debatable but you're right about 99 that blew my ass and Vangaurd should
have taken it by a long shot.
I think the devs keep taking the ring because of their style. They're always
doing something new and Downey, Glyde and Lee's arrangements are so far off the
wall that the judges give them more slack for musicality, I like it personally.
Their marching isn't that horrible any more, it used to be worse but they also
have a more relaxed marching style, remember they're still a jazz corps.
Apparently everything else they do makes up for what little marching problems
they really have. Sometimes the drill looks like it's messy but scatter drill
is actually their bizarre style.
They are indeed cocky, but they are also over a handfull of cool people there.
The cocky ones don't know any better. The devs are Cali's baby and 70% + from
other states are raised to believe that the devs are gods and there are no
other corps. So they tend to act that way should that make it there. But to
hell with having batter luck in santa clara, they kick your ass at practices. I
think it was Murray who said "the only way to achieve intensity is through
pain"... that's a little psychotic, but hey, their badasses.
whatever. SOmetimes it's justified sometimes it's not... but 97-casablanca was
justified in any sense. They were so clean the judges were pissing
themselves... I heard the tapes they were litterally flippin out over the
cleanliness and contents of their book.
-j
Go to http://members.xoom.com/HAiNe13
ca...@asu.edu
championships are debatable, but I gotta give it up for BD 97. I've
heard the Perc judges tape especially and listening to a judge freak
out that much was about the funniest thing I ever heard. All the
mudslinging in this thread is starting to annoy me, though. All of the
top corps give an impressive finals performance, it's just that one
corps outshines the others according to the JUDGES. And if even if we
don't agree with them, deal with it. This thread will not change past
championships, so just enjoy them.
P.S. Whether you hate or love BD, you should still listen to the
judges tape mentioned above for a good laugh.
In article <20000514160206...@ng-ba1.aol.com>,
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: They are indeed cocky, but they are also over a handfull of cool people there.
: The cocky ones don't know any better.
It's funny, I get to hang out rather often with the Devils and haven't
found them to be cocky at all. More often I've found them courteous and
respectful. There are exceptions but, like most corps, they're mostly
full of nice people. Confident, maybe.
Scott
CruBari1
>
>well,Dayle-o I see that an opinion such as yours needs to be
>regarded as the absolute truth,what with such credentials that
>you have...(hey,send me a copy of a tape of one of your DCI
>finals performances....whats that?..you dont have
>one!!!!!..oops)case closed.
Two points here, and they're both so crystal clear, my stating
them is almost redundant.
Just who are YOU, Boyo? (You could at least spell MY name right
when you attempt to poke fun at it. I don't know what yours is,
so Boy-O is all I've got to go on.) At least I have posted my
name and resume for all to see. I have yet to see yours.
Which leads to point #2. So what if I haven't been IN a DCI
Finals and you have? (And I say that ONLY in context; we have no
proof about you.) Your sh&t still stinks too. And that goes for
everyone else out there who claims that ONLY those who march in
DCI have a valid opinion. I find you in Contempt of Court,
BOY1230.
BTW, what you say about the other corps applies equally well to
BD. Innovation is not indigenous only to Concord, CA.
I'm not bashing BD (I happen to love them), just YOUR inane,
flame-baiting comments. Don't bother baiting us any more, your
pathetic attempts are a waste of time.
dal...@yahoo.com
talk all this shit!? where the hell do you get the notion that we
couldn't march? huh!? why did we get high visual last year? why didn't
all the supposed 12 other corps that marched better than us get high
fucking vis.?! what makes you think its easy? i worked my fucking ass
off last summer and spring to be able to march our technique. todd ryan,
ken, and the rest of the vis. staff kicked our asses every goddamn day.
i am extremely active in weight training and to this day BD was the
hardest thing, physically and mentally, that i've tried. i appreciate
opinions from both sides as long as there's good reason for your
opinion. on the other hand there is no call for the total disrespect
that some like the turd that started this thread have shown. what the
hell do you have against us anyway. did you audition and not make it?
well, quit crying, practice and try again. if you make it it'll be the
best experience of you're life.
one pissed off person
me
march a few steps then stop and play as loud as you can. Maybe you should
lift more weights and join a corps that has a harder drill to march (like
any of the other top twelve). And to answer why BD got high visual (which
was a joke). BD has been known to be the biggest DCI ass-kisser in drum
corps. Kiss enough DCI ass and you get the big push.
Reel Feel
>talk all this shit!? where the hell do you get the notion that we
>couldn't march? huh!? why did we get high visual last year? why didn't
>all the supposed 12 other corps that marched better than us get high
>fucking vis.?! what makes you think its easy? i worked my fucking ass
>off last summer and spring to be able to march our technique. todd ryan,
>ken, and the rest of the vis. staff kicked our asses every goddamn day.
>i am extremely active in weight training and to this day BD was the
>hardest thing, physically and mentally, that i've tried.
Wow. You're one classy guy. It's good to know that most BD members don't
behave like you, so I won't characterize the whole corps by your lack of
decency.
Matt
Steven Musumeche
and had to move the equipment quickly. Well, the shortest way was to go
around the BD truck, but there were a lot members congregated there. We
asked them politely to move.. and they did. One at a time. After five
minutes, we got to go through.
On the other hand, I've met some very cool BD members online. (Stef Cheng,
etc)
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Carolina Crown Pit 99-00
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Drum Corps Wallpapers
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Paul Bieraugel wrote in message ...
me
$$$$$$.
dal...@yahoo.com wrote:
> this thread has amazed me. where do some of you people get the balls to
> talk all this shit!? where the hell do you get the notion that we
> couldn't march? huh!? why did we get high visual last year? why didn't
> all the supposed 12 other corps that marched better than us get high
> fucking vis.?! what makes you think its easy? i worked my fucking ass
> off last summer and spring to be able to march our technique. todd ryan,
> ken, and the rest of the vis. staff kicked our asses every goddamn day.
> i am extremely active in weight training and to this day BD was the
cont...@my-deja.com
You see, when you move in and begin practice in January, you are taught
one thing.....100% performance 100% of the time. No need to wait until
Saturday night for that extra spark. No need to wait for Saturday night
to decide to get your act together. When you perform for eight months
straight.....performance gets, well...easy. It becomes second nature.
Hard moves look easy and effortless, because simply, when you perform
for that long, they are. The hornline sounds louder, but that is your
Saturday night imagination playing tricks on you. The drumline sounds
cleaner, but again that is your Saturday night imagination. And the
Guard, well they are just flawless.....So I think to myself and say that
the quality of the Blue Devils is defined in the first week of January,
it just takes us a whole lot of blood, sweat, and tears to make it look
easy on Saturday night. The goal is not to be the best......the goal is
to score a 100.
Shawn Carpenter
BD contra line 98-99
In article <8fffsi$7fj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
princ...@my-deja.com wrote:
> WHY do the judges continually award the Blue Devils with UNDESERVED
> Championships? 1999, 1997, 1996! I HATE Phantom Regiment and even I
> thought Phantom should have won in 1996.
>
> Blue Devils have NO DIFFICULTY IN THEIR DRILL! Their horns play
great-
> but only played less than 7 minutes in 1999 and the can't march for
> crap! There one element with slight difficulty was a rotating box and
> it was a BIG MESS!
>
> Shit- Colts could win if they performed a Blue Devils show!
>
> I hate BD because they are cocky and deserve to be knocked down a
notch!
>
> Someone in BD actually wrote me and said that they tell people who
> didn't make it to try out for SCV cause they'd have better luck.
Sorry
> BD but SCV Kicks your aSS!
>
FatKidPro
that matters...Saturday is just a day to show your stuff.
Matt
Reel Feel
>cleaner, but again that is your Saturday night imagination.
Thank goodness I don't have this "Saturday night imagination." I'll take
reality anyday.
Matt
cont...@my-deja.com
performance. Any how, here is a fun little story, as you know last year
on Friday night, the devils won, but since it was Friday the 13th we
called it the day of the devil, I guess we hyped a litted on Friday last
year, since that is when the title is normally won or lost!
Shawn Carpenter
BD conta line 98-99
In article <20000516145617...@ng-df1.aol.com>,
Rod Gornto
me <shu...@execpc.com> wrote:
> Oh, and I have no RESPECT for TODD RYAN who lef Madison for the
almighty
> $$$$$$.
Oh, so you know Todd then? Did he ever teach the visual caption of the
corps/band that you marched in? Do you have a clue how many bands and
corps he teaches? If you honestly think that Todd Ryan left one drum
corps to teach another drum corps because of money, then you are even
more of a jerk than your post lets on. Think about that. Drum corps.
Money. NO ONE teaches a drum corps for the money! There isn't any
money to be made teaching drum corps!
On the other hand, there is alot of money to be made in fields with
less stress associated with them. Like stockbrokering or high steel,
for example...
By the way, BD didn't win a vis caption in the 90's until Todd started
teaching them technique. I'm sure he bemoans that you don't respect
him. You're killing him. No, really. Stop it. Ouch.
--
Rod Gornto
JSUdrummer
Rod Gornto
me <shu...@execpc.com> wrote:
> YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON, BD ALWAYS KISSES DCI ASS SO THEY GET THE BIG
PUSH
I challenge you to define exactly what you think "KISSES DCI ASS"
means.
Doug Avila
tied performance visual in 94, 95, 97, 98, 99. Came in 2nd in 96. Todd Ryan
came to the Devils after Star left the activity.
Rod Gornto wrote:
Phrenchy
Gornto from rod...@hotmail.com
> Oh, so you know Todd then? Did he ever teach the visual caption of the
> corps/band that you marched in? Do you have a clue how many bands and
> corps he teaches? If you honestly think that Todd Ryan left one drum
> corps to teach another drum corps because of money, then you are even
> more of a jerk than your post lets on. Think about that. Drum corps.
> Money. NO ONE teaches a drum corps for the money! There isn't any
> money to be made teaching drum corps!
>
> On the other hand, there is alot of money to be made in fields with
> less stress associated with them. Like stockbrokering or high steel,
> for example...
>
> By the way, BD didn't win a vis caption in the 90's until Todd started
> teaching them technique. I'm sure he bemoans that you don't respect
> him. You're killing him. No, really. Stop it. Ouch.
>
> --
> Rod Gornto
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Psyduck152
Eleiko
>Blue Devils and Star tied for brass in 91 and 93
>
That is a sad , sad thing. Devs had wonderful hornlines those years but it
wasn't even close.
Andy Austin CSCS
Kinetic Fitness Systems
Function Creating Form
WAVMaker2
90 score since June. Their show rocked, their marching is amazing, and
"Trouble" that song was the highlight of the Blue Devils career. and 1997? are
you kidding? i agree the end of the show sucked but the meaty parts???? OH MY
GOD IT WAS SWEET...i do agree though that they did not deserve the championship
in 99 and SCV deserved it
Mrpink843
>BD drill was the easiest of the top twelve last year. It's not very hard to
>march a few steps then stop and play as loud as you can. Maybe you should
>lift more weights and join a corps that has a harder drill to march (like
>any of the other top twelve). And to answer why BD got high visual (which
>was a joke). BD has been known to be the biggest DCI ass-kisser in drum
>corps. Kiss enough DCI ass and you get the big push.
>
Dude, don't be stupid.. where did you march again last summer? how would you
know what is easiest and hardest unless you march all of the drills?
Rod Gornto
Doug Avila <avi...@law.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> FYI: since Todd Ryan has been with BD(since 94), the devils have won
or
> tied performance visual in 94, 95, 97, 98, 99. Came in 2nd in 96. Todd
Ryan
> came to the Devils after Star left the activity.
>
Yes, I know. He taught me in 93. :) He used to ride his
motorcycle back and forth to Wisconsin to teach Pioneer also. Amazing
how those numbers shake out, isn't it? Great numbers, Doug.
Jeff Dahmer
Rod Gornto wrote:
> In article <391bada6$0$73...@news.execpc.com>,
> me <shu...@execpc.com> wrote:
> > YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON, BD ALWAYS KISSES DCI ASS SO THEY GET THE BIG
> PUSH
>
> I challenge you to define exactly what you think "KISSES DCI ASS"
> means.
Mark Lieberman
"Doug Avila" <avi...@law.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
news:3921B9E7...@law.berkeley.edu...
> FYI: since Todd Ryan has been with BD(since 94), the devils have won or
> tied performance visual in 94, 95, 97, 98, 99. Came in 2nd in 96. Todd
Ryan
> came to the Devils after Star left the activity.
>
we actually won the "tournament" visual caption...won vis at quarters and
semis
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cont...@my-deja.com
against past blue devils corps. Kind of sucks, but when a judge says
that you have to perform up to your "standards" or you won't get the
number that kind of hurts you a little. Judges are used to seeing
quality from the devils, and no quality = no Number.
Shawn Carpenter
BD contra line 98-99
In article <391bada6$0$73...@news.execpc.com>,
me <shu...@execpc.com> wrote:
> YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON, BD ALWAYS KISSES DCI ASS SO THEY GET THE BIG
PUSH
>
> princ...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > WHY do the judges continually award the Blue Devils with UNDESERVED
> > Championships? 1999, 1997, 1996! I HATE Phantom Regiment and even
I
> > thought Phantom should have won in 1996.
> >
> > Blue Devils have NO DIFFICULTY IN THEIR DRILL! Their horns play
great-
> > but only played less than 7 minutes in 1999 and the can't march for
> > crap! There one element with slight difficulty was a rotating box
and
> > it was a BIG MESS!
> >
> > Shit- Colts could win if they performed a Blue Devils show!
> >
> > I hate BD because they are cocky and deserve to be knocked down a
notch!
> >
> > Someone in BD actually wrote me and said that they tell people who
> > didn't make it to try out for SCV cause they'd have better luck.
Sorry
> > BD but SCV Kicks your aSS!
> >
CruBari1
So your post means that a Visual Performance judge cannot
evaluate the demand a drill places on an individual because he
hasn't marched the drill? Or has Demand been removed as a
criterion for judging marching?
Dale Fine, Baritone
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Rod Gornto
> > me <shu...@execpc.com> wrote:
> > > YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON, BD ALWAYS KISSES DCI ASS SO THEY GET THE BIG
> > PUSH
> >
> > means.
> > --
> > Rod Gornto
> >
> > Before you buy.
See, no one will tell you what it means because it doesn't mean
ANYTHING! It's a non-specific dig at a DCI member corps. That's ALL
it is. Since BD's director is a member of the DCI board, like the
other top 21 Division I corps, that makes BD a PART of DCI! So
basically, "KISSES DCI ASS," means that BD is kissing their own ass to
get ahead. Brilliant. Simply brilliant. You know, people in
advertising get paid big money to come up with this stuff. Unless you
can give me a specific case where the management of BD, or any other
member corps did anything unsavory to earn the favor of a judging
panel, then just shut up about this whole ass kissing business. If you
really want to impress people, try explaining step-by-step just how BD
kisses anyone's ass. I'd love to see that.
--
Rod Gornto
Phrenchy
Gornto from rod...@hotmail.com
> See, no one will tell you what it means because it doesn't mean
> ANYTHING! It's a non-specific dig at a DCI member corps. That's ALL
> it is. Since BD's director is a member of the DCI board, like the
> other top 21 Division I corps, that makes BD a PART of DCI! So
> basically, "KISSES DCI ASS," means that BD is kissing their own ass to
> get ahead. Brilliant. Simply brilliant. You know, people in
> advertising get paid big money to come up with this stuff. Unless you
> can give me a specific case where the management of BD, or any other
> member corps did anything unsavory to earn the favor of a judging
> panel, then just shut up about this whole ass kissing business. If you
> really want to impress people, try explaining step-by-step just how BD
> kisses anyone's ass. I'd love to see that.
It's a contortionist act.
Mrpink843
>So your post means that a Visual Performance judge cannot
>evaluate the demand a drill places on an individual because he
>hasn't marched the drill? Or has Demand been removed as a
>criterion for judging marching?
I didn't mean it to be taken that literally, of course he can evaluate it, he
can say what appears to be the easiest or hardest drills, but how can you say
as a fact what drill is easiest or hardest without marching it?
cont...@my-deja.com
remember not being able to carry my horn in basics in 98 and todd
calling me out in front of the whole hornline for poor marching
technique because I was weak and couldn't carry my horn. I sweated
about 20,000 gallons of water with you last year, and the same the year
before. I remember bad times in Mississippi, and our one free day lost,
which we decied ourselves so that we could be better. We all worked our
butts off, and we almost got what we deserved. I left finals knowing
that that was my best show ever, and that's all I could do. I can't say
the same for most people who marched the night of finals regardless of
what corps. Some of my friends in other corps as well as BD had lack
luster performances. Just remember who has come out on top. Who has
won prelims 5 out of 6 years....BD.....who has won semi's 4 out of 6
years.....BD.....who has won finals 4 out of 6 years....BD.....who
should have won everything 6 out of 6 years......?? When you are on
top, expect people to want to knock you down.....look at the Chicago
Bulls....they were on top and everyone wanted them to lose....problem
is, they still won! Think of BD as the Chicago Bulls of Drumcorps!
Shawn Carpenter BD contra line 98-99
BTW: I think this year marked the 4th consecutive year that BD has
scored a 9.9 in visual at finals.......something to think about the next
time you criticize the judging system!
In article <8fp4rt$ccn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
dal...@yahoo.com wrote:
> this thread has amazed me. where do some of you people get the balls
to
> talk all this shit!? where the hell do you get the notion that we
> couldn't march? huh!? why did we get high visual last year? why didn't
> all the supposed 12 other corps that marched better than us get high
> fucking vis.?! what makes you think its easy? i worked my fucking ass
> off last summer and spring to be able to march our technique. todd
ryan,
> ken, and the rest of the vis. staff kicked our asses every goddamn
day.
> i am extremely active in weight training and to this day BD was the
> hardest thing, physically and mentally, that i've tried. i appreciate
> opinions from both sides as long as there's good reason for your
> opinion. on the other hand there is no call for the total disrespect
> that some like the turd that started this thread have shown. what the
> hell do you have against us anyway. did you audition and not make it?
> well, quit crying, practice and try again. if you make it it'll be the
> best experience of you're life.
>
> one pissed off person
>
Michael J. Duffy
> Jason,
>
> (I think he only answers to"Asshole*" since he won't sign his posts!"
>
> -Terri
I do know, for a fact, that this type* seals their envelopes
with hot wax and "A Sphincter Print!!"
McD
Ron Allard
>I do know, for a fact, that this type* seals their envelopes
>with hot wax and "A Sphincter Print!!"
>
>McD
Unfortunately, it usually has lipstick on it, too...
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Reel Feel
>should have won everything 6 out of 6 years......?
Please.....get over yourself.....just for a moment.....it would make me
happy.
Matt
Parkland03
this year?
Mrpink843
>suck
>this year?
>
I know this is a bad analogy, but the Bulls lost Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan,
and Scottie Pippen.. BD didn't lose the people who have helped them stay on top
all these years, like Wayne Downey, Scott Johnson, Todd Ryan, etc.. I just
don't think your comparison has a lot of levity by comparing the current Blue
Devils to the current Bulls..
Parkland03
cont...@my-deja.com
Shawn Carpenter
In article <20000518014112...@ng-mb1.aol.com>,
cont...@my-deja.com
was great. Especially last year. It's great to have the Vanguard back
and in contention. I think it will only make the two CA corps better.
Look at what it going on in the mid-west now with cavies & g-men. They
are pushing each other up, and the same will happen with BD and SCV.
The 6 out of 6 thing was just me messing around, because believe it or
not......it wasn't all about the ring for me!
Shawn Carpenter
BD contra Line 98-99
In article <20000517181059...@ng-fy1.aol.com>,
Mark Lieberman
>It's great to have the Vanguard back
> and in contention. I think it will only make the two CA corps better.
> Look at what it going on in the mid-west now with cavies & g-men. They
> are pushing each other up, and the same will happen with BD and SCV.
>
> BD contra Line 98-99
>
I have to agree here.
I was 7 years running that SCV didnt beat BD once (first show in 92 only and
then not again until 98)
as much fun as that was, I've always said its better to beat someone when
they are at their best. Much more satisfying then 10 pointing someone just
cause they didn't have a good night, or year, or years...
I think having SCV back in the hunt will only make BD better (hee hee)