Best Pure Rudimental Snare Drummer
T. A. Holleran
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Figured I'd start my own thread. I've gotta go into the past
because:
1) I have seen precious few DCI I&E shows
2) Players today are playing different drums, different
patterns, and are much more "chops" oriented.
My apologies if I am beginning to sound as if I am a tad
"not in step."
Wayback Machine:
*Hugh Quigley
*Sonny Lyons
*Jay Tuomey
*Frank Arsenault
*Ray Luedee
60's
*John Bodnar (CT Royal Lancers, Hurcs)
*Rick Nardelli (Sac)
*Charlie Poole (BAC, 2-7)
*Jackie Tencza
*Mitch Markovitch (Cavvies)
*Andy Lisko (St. Raphael, Bpt. PAL, Sky)
*Gary Pagnozzi (Bpt. PAL)
*John Oddo (Brassmen)
I know, I know, some kid from the Saginaw HS mjarching band
is gonna write back, "Who were these guys?"
The "modern" guy I saw who blew me away was Rich Viano, late
of Star, now with future corps.
Ace Holleran
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Figured I'd start my own thread. I've gotta go into the past because:
<P>1) I have seen precious few DCI I&E shows
<P>2) Players today are playing different drums, different patterns, and
are much more "chops" oriented.
<P>My apologies if I am beginning to sound as if I am a tad "not in step."
<BR>
<H3>
Wayback Machine:</H3>
<LI>
Hugh Quigley</LI>
<LI>
Sonny Lyons</LI>
<LI>
Jay Tuomey</LI>
<LI>
Frank Arsenault</LI>
<LI>
Ray Luedee</LI>
<BR>
<H3>
60's</H3>
<LI>
John Bodnar (CT Royal Lancers, Hurcs)</LI>
<LI>
Rick Nardelli (Sac)</LI>
<LI>
Charlie Poole (BAC, 2-7)</LI>
<LI>
Jackie Tencza</LI>
<LI>
Mitch Markovitch (Cavvies)</LI>
<LI>
Andy Lisko (St. Raphael, Bpt. PAL, Sky)</LI>
<LI>
Gary Pagnozzi (Bpt. PAL)</LI>
<LI>
John Oddo (Brassmen)</LI>
<P>I know, I know, some kid from the Saginaw HS mjarching band is gonna
write back, "Who were these guys?"
<P>The "modern" guy I saw who blew me away was Rich Viano, late of Star,
now with future corps.
<P>Ace Holleran</HTML>
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k.. Andy Lisko (St. Raphael, Bpt. PAL, Sky)=20
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m.. John Oddo (Brassmen)=20
I know, I know, some kid from the Saginaw HS mjarching band is gonna =
write back, "Who were these guys?"=20
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Star, now with future corps.=20
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<LI>Sonny Lyons=20
<LI>Jay Tuomey=20
<LI>Frank Arsenault=20
<LI>Ray Luedee <BR> =20
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David A. Enete
late 70s...Rob Carlson
Did he march into the 80s?
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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, David A. Enete wrote:
> late 70s...Rob Carlson
Oops...Carson? Carlton? Carlson?
AJLisko
"T. A. Holleran" <ta...@concentric.net> wrote:
>60's
>
>*John Bodnar (CT Royal Lancers, Hurcs)
>*Rick Nardelli (Sac)
>*Charlie Poole (BAC, 2-7)
>*Jackie Tencza
>*Mitch Markovitch (Cavvies)
>*Andy Lisko (St. Raphael, Bpt. PAL, Sky)
>*Gary Pagnozzi (Bpt. PAL)
>*John Oddo (Brassmen)
>
Well thanks ACE. Thats pretty good company you've got me. Ah, to experience
all those individual shows once again where I met so many of my dear Drum Corps
friends.
Andy Lisko
St. Raphael's/Bpt. PAL 58-68
NY Skyliners 69-81
TAllen77
Bill McGrath, Jr.
He won individuals in 1968 AND DCA Snare Individuals in 1993 ( against all
those young whipper snappers)
T Allen
Hooton
Don't forget John Dowlan, Jimmy 'the Ghost' Giles, Redican and Flowers.
Hooton
Jack Bornstein
In article <Pine.GSO.3.95q.97120...@sage.coe.uga.edu>,
"David A. Enete" <den...@coe.uga.edu> wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, David A. Enete wrote:
>
>> late 70s...Rob Carlson
>
>Oops...Carson? Carlton? Carlson?
Carson. And I think he aged out in '78 or '79.
-Jack
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James C. Nevermann
Jake wrote:
> Whoa!!!! Mitch Markovitch at the Cavies??? I dont think so. The 60's
> were the Larry McCormick years at the Cavies. Mitch was at the Royal
> Airs drumline
Jake and I talked about this on the ferry this morning. Mitch played in
the Cavi snare line [during which he won solo snare at Nationals]
sometime during the early '60s before doing the Royal Airs line in the
mid '60s.
Did any of you ever play his "Tornado" or "Stamina" snare solos? I did
as a senior in high school in 1967... and for endurance at least,
"Tornado" is still a workout even today.
--
Jim Nevermann
SBE Technical Illustration
Work:(425)342-0844 Mail stop:04-AF
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Michael Cahill
James C. Nevermann wrote:
> Jake and I talked about this on the ferry this morning. Mitch played in
> the Cavi snare line [during which he won solo snare at Nationals]
> sometime during the early '60s before doing the Royal Airs line in the
> mid '60s.
>
> Did any of you ever play his "Tornado" or "Stamina" snare solos? I did
> as a senior in high school in 1967... and for endurance at least,
> "Tornado" is still a workout even today.
>
In 1988 Spirit was in Iowa rehearsing when Mitch came up to the line.
Apparently he lived closeby. Someone asked him to play "Tornado". His
response, "Not with these sticks, and not on that head." The head, Kevlar
of course. The sticks 3S'.
--
Michael Cahill
"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless,
and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful" Samuel Johnson.
AJLisko
>"James C. Nevermann" <jcn...@qtip.ca.boeing.com> wrote:
>Mitch played in
>the Cavi snare line [during which he won solo snare at Nationals]
>sometime during the early '60s before doing the Royal Airs line in the
>mid '60s.
Mitch won the VFW Nationals while playing in the Cavaliers
in 1961, 1962 and 1963. McCormick was the instructor those
years.
Bonus question: What snare drummer won the VFW Individual
title the next three years (64, 65, and 66)?
SnareGuy3
Michael Cahill writes:
>In 1988 Spirit was in Iowa rehearsing when
>Mitch came up to the line. Apparently he lived
>closeby. Someone asked him to play "Tornado".
>His response, "Not with these sticks, and not on
>that head." The head, Kevlar of course. The sticks 3S'.
I'm not surprised at this one bit. :-)
Jason
MG Rhythms
Phillip A Williams
Have any of you guys heard Mark Thurston play?
Man, the guy is NUTS, he's got mad residual chops...I can only imagine
what he was like in his day!
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In article <348EDE...@qtip.ca.boeing.com>, "James C. Nevermann" <jcn...@qtip.ca.boeing.com> writes:
> Jake wrote:
>
> > Whoa!!!! Mitch Markovitch at the Cavies??? I dont think so. The 60's
> > were the Larry McCormick years at the Cavies. Mitch was at the Royal
> > Airs drumline
>
> Jake and I talked about this on the ferry this morning. Mitch played in
> the Cavi snare line [during which he won solo snare at Nationals]
> sometime during the early '60s before doing the Royal Airs line in the
> mid '60s.
>
> Did any of you ever play his "Tornado" or "Stamina" snare solos? I did
> as a senior in high school in 1967... and for endurance at least,
> "Tornado" is still a workout even today.
>
Particularly if you play his solos the way Mitch played them. He
recommended something like 21 inches for ff. Try that on a kevlar
and tell me it doesn't hurt.
T. A. Holleran
AJLisko wrote:
>
>
> Mitch won the VFW Nationals while playing in the Cavaliers
> in 1961, 1962 and 1963. McCormick was the instructor those
> years.
>
> Bonus question: What snare drummer won the VFW Individual
> title the next three years (64, 65, and 66)?
>
> Andy Lisko
> St. Raphael's/Bpt. PAL 58-68
> NY Skyliners 69-81
I didn't realize Gary Pagnozzi won it three years in a row!
Ace
Michael Feher
> Particularly if you play his solos the way Mitch played them. He
> recommended something like 21 inches for ff. Try that on a kevlar
> and tell me it doesn't hurt.
21 inches is just ludicrous. That's more of an urban legend than
reality.
Mike
DVAdams
Sorry Mike, but in the old ( pre 1973 SCV ) days lots of lines played this way.
We called it "high-sticking" or "Eastern-style". 21 inches _is_ pretty high;
that would have been more appropriate for fff in the small corps I played in .
The Cavaliers were just about the last line that I remember to abandon this
style. It had a great visual appeal, and a wider dynamic range but was hard as
anything to clean, and it took a lot longer to learn. In the latter 70's there
were a lot of 10, 11 and 12 person snare lines which went hand-in-hand with the
lower style.
Dave Adams PR '78
Scarlet Knights '68-'77
Rick Beckham
In article <34914C...@nortel.ca>, Michael Feher <mfe...@nortel.ca> writes:
> > Particularly if you play his solos the way Mitch played them. He
> > recommended something like 21 inches for ff. Try that on a kevlar
> > and tell me it doesn't hurt.
>
> 21 inches is just ludicrous. That's more of an urban legend than
> reality.
>
> Mike
Wrong. I've seen him play. Shows there's more to learn from history
than the silly things taught today.
Hooton
> >
> > 21 inches is just ludicrous. That's more of an urban legend than
> > reality.
> >
> > Mike
>
>
> If you want to see high sticking still in use, check out some of the
senior alumni corps.
Hooton
Michael Feher
Rick Beckham wrote:
>
> In article <34914C...@nortel.ca>, Michael Feher <mfe...@nortel.ca> writes:
> > > Particularly if you play his solos the way Mitch played them. He
> > > recommended something like 21 inches for ff. Try that on a kevlar
> > > and tell me it doesn't hurt.
> >
> > reality.
> >
> > Mike
>
> than the silly things taught today.
And what silly things are those? I'm not being taught anything
"silly". I'm learning rudimentally hard stuff myself, but no
one asks me to play anything above 12".
Mike
Rick Beckham
I meant the stuff spouted on RAMD, about how there's more 'modern
rudiments' today, how kevlar is so much better, how playing techniques
are improved, how drumlines of today are so musical, etc etc.
And if you really want to be a more versatile player practice using
higher heights.
> Mike
Michael Feher
Well, I've certainly never promulgated anything like that. I am trying
to use as many different heights as I can.
I'm a Kevlar player. I prefer it, I prefer the sound, and I prefer
the feel. However, I have absolutely nothing against Mylar. I
became interested in "the new sound" of Kevlar, and wanted ever
since then to learn on it. Heck, I have nothing against calfskin
when used in the appropriate context (fife & drum corps).
I also play (gasp) traditional grip, almost exclusively.
Mike
RLRR
This discussion has gotten off the path a little bit. If we are talking
about styles instead of who were(or are) the best rudimentary snare
drummers.
Style talk. East Coast style.
Up here in Boston we never played that high. The very high (21") style of
drumming seemed to come from NY/NJ area. We just called
it "Jersey" style. Sac, Sky, Cabs etc. Watch Cab's alumni snare line. They
play that high style. I love it.
Playing in Boston Sr., I've had the pleasure of playing with someone who
played in the 65-67 snare line and he play's sorta high.
My natural tendency is to match his height because I played similar when I
was a kid.
For a while we were taught by someone who played in the "Chrome Wall" North
Star line. We were told to play 3-6-9" for soft, medium, loud. (Some of our
guys can't read music and don't know p,mp,mf,f,ff etc.). It was tough
playing down like that but it
did make us pay attention to dynamics. We want to still use our arms!!! I
think it gives the rudimental style some flavor. I like digging
out a good roll!!
Played at St. Joe's for a while and they told me that I wasn't playing HIGH
enough. Some more of that Jersey influence.
I find all of this very interesting.
--
Ed D.
Citations 67-71
BOSTON SR. 94-97
St. Joe's 95 DCI
Hooton <reilly...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<66s77g$4...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>
> > >
> > > 21 inches is just ludicrous. That's more of an urban legend than
> > > reality.
> > >
> > > Mike
> >
> >
DRUMLAW80
Without jumping into the discussion of the various "styles" of snare drumming,
I am going to place my vote for Scott Johnson.
Lee Rudnicki
DVAdams
Ed D. wrote:
>This discussion has gotten off the path a little bit. If we are talking
>about styles instead of who were(or are) the best rudimentary snare
>drummers.
>
>Style talk. East Coast style.
>
>
>Up here in Boston we never played that high. The very high (21") style of
>drumming seemed to come from NY/NJ area. We just called
>it "Jersey" style. Sac, Sky, Cabs etc. Watch Cab's alumni snare line. They
>play that high style. I love it.
In a private email to me Mike Feher questioned whether the older style was
comparable to the so-called "monkey drumming" seen recently. The two don't
really compare at all, IMHO, because "monkey drumming" is used for effect; its
only used in extremly loud passages, and it doesn't seem to me that there is
any uniformity in the way its practiced. The older "high-sticking" style that
Ed is calling "Jersey" style, was also called "Eastern" style when I was a kid
in the midwest.
Just to clear things up about the older style...
Let me see if if I can explain this well.
I'll start by assuming that many of you aren't familiar with the old "Eastern
Style" technique. Mike asked me if the wrists were down when playing. When you
say wrists are down,Mike, I assume that you think that the wrists stayed in
pretty much the same position all the time - accurate?
That is not how the eastern style technique worked though. The wrists were down
anytime the stick hit the head. The wrists were down for pp level dynamics and
lower as well. This includes grace notes. And generally the wrists were down
for playing single stroke and buzz rolls too.
But the wrist moved quite a bit too. The idea, as I was taught it, was that the
wrist, forearm, and upper arm moved together in a smooth unit motion. The hand
moved in an arc in a vertical plane which was typically at about a 45 degree
angle to the plane bisecting the body. The elbow moved in an arc too. The
entire arm basicly pivoted about an axis that passed through the shoulder
socket and through the upper part of the forearm below the elbow. Perfecting
ones arm motion was on a par with perfecting a golf swing or keeping your feet
together when skiing. It was considered good form. The ideal was that the
motion of the arms was as symmetrical and smooth as possible.
I learned this technique from two instructors. The first was Dennis Dowd, then
the execution instructor of the Cavaliers. My second instructor was George
Munzer, who played snare in the Skokie Indians with Frank Arsenault.
Keep in mind that tempi of the time were limited by contest rules to either 120
or 128 bpm. So the style worked well for most patterns ( especially for accents
) and for double stroke rolls. The visual effect was stunning too, but it
wasn't done just for show. Lines that used the eastern style could play a lot
louder than the so-called "down-stroke" lines. In those days most lines played
on 15" snare drums; the larger drums were capable of absorbing and re-radiating
a lot more kinetic energy.
In 1973, SCV came out with a line that beat everyone in drumming. They used
what at the time was considered an extreme version of the downstroke style (
almost all wrist motion ) and what for the time was a pretty large 7 man snare
line. By '74 most of the other DCI lines had adopted this style.
Ace Holleran suggested not too long ago that if Ken Mazur taught today his line
would be 'seven little Redicans, with arms flailing' ( not an exact quote, but
but I'm too lazy to look it up ), a direct reference to the old eastern style.
But that is totally inaccurate in my experience, because when Mazur taught us (
the '78 PR ) we played with what was substantially a modified down-stroke
style. I was probably the only person in that line who even knew what eastern
style was. The modified downstroke style is still pretty much in vogue today.
Ace, BTW if you're reading, carpenters no longer use hammers when sheetrocking
- they use power screwdrivers or drills.
-Dave Adams-
The Itkor's
An argument could also be made for Lee Rudnicki
Joe Itkor
DRUMLAW80 <drum...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19971213020...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
DAVE MORTON
The Tom Float method of down stroking is the only way to go when rudimental
druming
Dave
Michael Feher <mfe...@nortel.ca> wrote in article
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> > Particularly if you play his solos the way Mitch played them. He
> > recommended something like 21 inches for ff. Try that on a kevlar
> > and tell me it doesn't hurt.
>
Hornman331
My vote is for Bill McGrath JR. from Rochester.
LinBandMan
No contest, Danny Raymond, Jr.
Luckyjason
Not even close, Scott Kretzer.
Roger M. Carter
Scott Johnson, without a doubt.
Paul W. Smietan
Nah! You're all wet! My vote, hands down, Mr. Robbie Carson!
-Paul
Roger M. Carter wrote in message ...
>Scott Johnson, without a doubt.
>
>
JEDI RED 5
Nat Baroush.... dude was bad... and how 'bout Dave Hart's individual solo in
87... but props gotta go to
Scott Johnson
Lots of Bd's on the list for me though....
Dtpdrumr
Any thoughts on Nick Angelis of Blue Knights or Tyler Dempsey of S.C.V. I saw
Tylers solo in 95 he didn't deserve fifth place.
Madcym97
I have to say Jeff Queen
SCVGIRL96
>I have to say Jeff Queen
>
>
Now he is good!! At a high school drumline contest several years ago, the UNT
dumline did an exhibition and he played a solo afterwards. WHOA!!! Talk about
some hands!!
Kimberly Springer
Santa Clara Vanguard, Pit 1996
Carroll H.S. (Southlake, Texas) Drum Major '96-'97, '97-'98
University of Notre Dame - Class of 2002
DRUMLAW80
... but props gotta go??
Lee Rudnicki
Drillking
Robbie Robinson (Crossmen) - DCI individual Champion - 1979,80 & 82
And he still playing - & instructing/writing
Then there is MArk Thurston............the best that should have won.......
yanimy jimmy
lance kellog...........sam kays...............rich viano...............rudy
gowern
Drillking wrote in message
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Dan Erbacher
Anyone remember... Rob Carson? SCV? Ring any bells?!!!
Timpdude
>
>Any thoughts on Nick Angelis of Blue Knights or Tyler Dempsey of S.C.V. I saw
>Tylers solo in 95 he didn't deserve fifth place.
>
>
>
Tyler.... Now that is some hands. I saw him at PAS last year. He has some of
the fastest hands I have seen in a while.
Michael Bell
Timpanist
Jacksonville ST. University
"The Real Sound of the South"
HeMiola302
I agree, I marched with a guy who used to march with Tyler -- he said they
(bluecoats) would play this triplet diddle/drag exercise at a reefed tempo and
he would do the whole thing with his right hand.
SnareGuy3
>Then there is MArk Thurston............the best that
>should have won.......
When I was at Spirit of Atlanta camp in November, I got to see him in person.
He's got some of the best chops I've seen.
Jason Lowe
PFoote3300
Subject; RE Rudimental Drummer DCI Individual Champ'79 etc
Robbie Robinson YES...
And listen to the Caballeros snare line last season (and anticipate this season
too) He wrote and played some driving, jammin stuff it's amazing just to watch
him play!
Robert Shane Crocker
Nick Angelis
James Christian
JEDI RED 5 wrote:
The best two pure rudimental snare drummers ever would have to be without a
doubt Rick Beckham and Ken Mazur.
James Christian
James Christian
Responding to Tyler fans:
I saw him at PAS in '97. He didn't really play anything. All that he did was a
bunch of tricks. He seemed very weak, and the way he holds his arms makes him
look like a rooster. When he opened and closed his roll at PAS, he just threw his
sticks at the drumhead, and because of his lack of control had several stick
clicks, because he was letting the drum do all of the work for him.
I know people have off days, and I'm sure that's why he dropped his stick
three times. I still think it's ridiculous that after that many execution errors
the judges still gave him third place. (Scott Johnson gave had him in second.)
James Christian
yanimy jimmy
Drew (Drum Exchange)
Frank Arsenault, the guy was awesome! By himself he could make the sound of a
nine man snare line.
DRUMLAW80
Haskel Harr.
jerry rightmaninthehouse
Jeremy S. Rugenstein
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, James Christian wrote:
>
> The best two pure rudimental snare drummers ever would have to be without a
> doubt Rick Beckham and Ken Mazur.
>
>
> James Christian
>
>
>
I've seen Mazur play and it is like seeing armageddon with drumsticks! He
plays alternating flams faster than you can blink, has rolls higher than
you can imagine, and if I remember correctly, impeccable style and
technique. Sorry I can't go into too much detail, but it was a while ago,
fuzzy mems, you know.
Jeremy
Madison Bassline '97
Luckyjason
How about Mike MacIntosh. BD 88-90
Jason
Thatcher97
Two entries....
Robbie Robinson, Crossmen and Blue Devils fame..
and
Mark Thurston, Crossmen
Both are amazing.
-rt
Wayne Bowles
Mac is da man!!!!!!
Shawn C. Anderson
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Luckyjason
He is. He's teaching our snareline at cavies this year and he has already
showed us so much stuff that will help us improve as a drumline not just a
snareline.
Jason
Luckyjason
Tyler is a good friend of mine. He had a bad performance. So what!!!!!
Everybody does at one point in time. My Showcase of talent performance at DCI
this past year sucked. Oh well.......that's what I said. I happens sometimes.
So please don't come out and tell the whole world about it. I'm sure that he
feels bad enough as it is.
Thanks,
Jason