~~~Etiwanda High School~~~
Apolo1
School Marching Eagle Regiment went virtually undefeated this season. We
will be going to the `96 Rose Parade and the Band of America Nationals.
Let me give you a little background of us though. This season we had
the best year ever , we preformed all over California. We also went on a
tour thru Arizona and Nevada. We won the nevada cup at UNLV. But why am
I writing this , so that you see us next season we will be on T.V. twice.
So drop me some e-mail me about what you think.
HFMoon
>School Marching Eagle Regiment went virtually undefeated this season.
Good work! I used to march(and am now instructing) The John Muir High
School Mustangs, from Pasadena. I've always liked your shows. Muir went
virtually undefeated as well. I think the only time we saw you guys was at
the Magnolia (Anaheim) show. What are you guys doing next year?
Anyway, just saying hi! And I hope you enjoy the Rose Parade next year(all
5 & 1/2 miles of it!)
Richard, Euph
Peckster
Wolfpack Marching Band took that. Unless you've got your years confused, I
do beleive WE took that one. Your group IS the bomb, but you didn't take
Star Of Nevada. Just wanted to clear the air on that.
-Peckster
94-95 French Horn Section Leader
Claremont Wolfpack Marching Band
Chris
> For all you Marching Band People did you know that the Etiwanda High
> School Marching Eagle Regiment went virtually undefeated this season. We
> will be going to the `96 Rose Parade and the Band of America Nationals.
> Let me give you a little background of us though. This season we had
> the best year ever , we preformed all over California. We also went on a
> tour thru Arizona and Nevada. We won the nevada cup at UNLV. But why am
> I writing this , so that you see us next season we will be on T.V. twice.
> So drop me some e-mail me about what you think.
I can not believe that Etiwanda is going to the Rose Parade. This is the
biggest crock I've ever heard of. Did you guys even attend any parade
competitions last season. As I recall Etiwanda used to suck not too long
ago, 3 or 4 years ago, I think. I was a sophmore at Mt Carmel and I
remember Etiwanda getting Whooped on the street every time we saw you for
the two years you did parade. You also didn'y cook so well on the field.
Then, as I heard it, your program dropped the parade part because you guys
always got worked, and decided to concentrate solely on the field. I also
heard you guys have band camp over the entire summer. Is that why your
band shrunk? You also added electric stuff because your players couldn't
produce enough sound. How many sousaphones did you march last season? I
believe it was 1 and I'm not sure if that wasn't just for looks. I don't
even know how you guys got the rose bowl bid, but I know it'll suck
becuase you won't be able to plug yourselves in and that token sousa isn't
going top provide enough bass for the rest of the band. The Mount Carmel
Marching Sundevils were clearly robbed. They have a quality program of
over 200 instrumentalists that is successful both on the street and field.
In 1993, Mt. Carmel took sweepstakes at everytournamnet it attended, both
field and street, except at BOA, where electric bands are appaently given
an advatage just because their pit's fingers can make more noise than the
band. Last year the Sundevils were again highly succesful in BOTH events
including best Parade band at the Fiesta Bowl Parade. With such a
reputation on BOTH the Street and Field it is a disgrace to the Rose
Parade selection committee to ommit them in favor of band who hasn't
consistently proved themselves on the street and relies on electric
instruments for the field, an option they won't have come January 1.
Patrick Wu
: In article <3mjtif$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, apo...@aol.com (Apolo1) wrote:
Where in the HELL do you get of ragging on Etiwanda (my alma mater no
less)! I'm sorry, but this is just low. Is this how everyone from Mt.
Carmel acts? I certainly hope not! I used to have some respect for your
band, but I'm losing what respect I had by the second!
: I can not believe that Etiwanda is going to the Rose Parade. This is the
: biggest crock I've ever heard of. Did you guys even attend any parade
: competitions last season. As I recall Etiwanda used to suck not too long
: ago, 3 or 4 years ago, I think. I was a sophmore at Mt Carmel and I
I was in Etiwanda 4 years ago. '90-'91 was Etiwanda's first year as open
class, and considering at the time the school was only 6 years old,
that's pretty damn good! We, most definately, DID NOT SUCK! In fact, I
beleive we were ranked like 3rd or 4th in the state that year. We scored
at the top at every competition, except for against Clovis West.
: remember Etiwanda getting Whooped on the street every time we saw you for
: the two years you did parade. You also didn'y cook so well on the field.
HA!! Didn't cook so well on the field!?! Where do yo get your facts,
man? Now I KNOW you haven't seen Etiwanda!
: Then, as I heard it, your program dropped the parade part because you guys
: always got worked, and decided to concentrate solely on the field. I also
: heard you guys have band camp over the entire summer. Is that why your
: band shrunk? You also added electric stuff because your players couldn't
Listen, the reason the band shrunk is because another high school was
opened. In fact, probably 90% of the band students who were being
moved to the new highshool tried to get a transfer JUST so the could BE in
Etiwanda's band.
: produce enough sound. How many sousaphones did you march last season? I
: believe it was 1 and I'm not sure if that wasn't just for looks. I don't
: even know how you guys got the rose bowl bid, but I know it'll suck
: becuase you won't be able to plug yourselves in and that token sousa isn't
: going top provide enough bass for the rest of the band. The Mount Carmel
Okay, now I'm PISSED OFF! Now, don't EVEN TRY to put down the Low Brass
section. I know every person in that brass line and they all KICK ASS! I'd
like to tell you that there is such a thing as dynamics and bands ARE alowed
to play soft. Ever hear of something called balance? Or, do you go by
the Loud is Proud methedology?
: Marching Sundevils were clearly robbed. They have a quality program of
Robbed My ASS!
: over 200 instrumentalists that is successful both on the street and field.
: In 1993, Mt. Carmel took sweepstakes at everytournamnet it attended, both
: field and street, except at BOA, where electric bands are appaently given
: an advatage just because their pit's fingers can make more noise than the
Don't give me this shit about the electronic pit. I'd just like you to
know that, at Etiwanda, every instrument is equally important. Each
augments each other. I know for a fact that Don Jaramillo (the derectoer
at EHS) ALWAYS makes the field shows as musical as possible. If there's
a keyboard, the only reason it is there is to help the band, not to
replace it! The year EHS did Bernsteins Mass is a very good example.
Bernsteins Mass was composed by Bernstein to take advantage of many
instruments, wind and electrical. The show reflects this in order for
the show to be as musical as possible.
: band. Last year the Sundevils were again highly succesful in BOTH events
: including best Parade band at the Fiesta Bowl Parade. With such a
: reputation on BOTH the Street and Field it is a disgrace to the Rose
How's you concert band, hmmm. Did they go to Chicago, like Etiwanda, to
perform for the national band directors assosiation? One of the reasons
I beleive that Etiwanda has built such a strong reputation is that every
band, weather marching or or otherwise, always strives for musicality.
Did you ever stop to think that Etiwanda might just be a etter band
because they sound better?
: Parade selection committee to ommit them in favor of band who hasn't
: consistently proved themselves on the street and relies on electric
: instruments for the field, an option they won't have come January 1.
You know, all I'm asking for is a little respect. I was a little pissed
earlier in this letter, but now Ive cooled some. I will be the first
one to admit that, while I was at Etiwanda, we were not a premeire street
marching band. But, I do beleive we beat Mt. Carmel on the field. The
least you can do is show some respect, and not be so bitter. Did you
know that Etiwanda tried out for the Rose parade once before and did not
make it? Jeez, give some credit to where credit is due. Do you think
the commitee would put a band in the rose Parade, one of the biggest damn
parades in the worls, if the band didn't deserve it?
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Dale Alan Fine
show quality when they pick some bands for their parade. As a member
of a competition-type band in the Pittsburgh area in the mid-80's,
I remember turning on the Rose Parade back then and I saw a band
from my area on the TV. And I know for a fact that they hadn't competed
in years, still don't compete on the field, and in fact suck very much
on the field. But they did have over 250 members, which I think is more
important to the Rose Committee in some cases.
Another CIP: in 1993 I tuned in to the Macy's Thanksgiving parade. As
soon as the TV picture came in to focus, there appeared another band that
I recognized. They did/do compete on the field, but aren't very good, at
least in terms of precision. Their shows are interesting, but they
execute poorly. So much so, in 92 they were the only band to get a
"poor" rating (for an open class band no less.) And here they were mucking
it up in NYC. There are so many more bands I know who could've done a
better job, but they got the nod because they are god-awful huge (compared
to every other band in our area).
Everyone who applies thinks they should be accepted. But the Committee
picks whomever they feel fits their criteria, not ours. Whatever their
criteria may be. i
--
Dale A. Fine
Elizabeth Forward HSMB '83-'86 EFHS MB Staff '93-
Steel City Ambassadors '87
Mike Schmitt
>Chris (eau...@ea.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3mjtif$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, apo...@aol.com (Apolo1) wrote:
>Where in the HELL do you get of ragging on Etiwanda (my alma mater no
>less)! I'm sorry, but this is just low. Is this how everyone from Mt.
Speaking as another Etiwanda alma mater who predated you by about four or
five years, may I suggest that flaming the opposition is hardly a good
way to convince anybody ... including fellow alumna? :)
Mike
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University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign -That's what they said about
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stawick jeffrey alan
miss out on the entire point. Think about the experience that both bands
are getting by being exposed to a number of excellent ensembles! The
fact is that hearing your peers is one of the top ways of not only
improving your own abilities in that forum, but additionaly increasing
your sensitivity in music and increasing the volume of your music
appreciation. Both you guys lighten up, you both probably have ten or
more great stories to tell each other about your experiences with your
own groups, and I bet you could both benefit each other and learn from
each other. I know what you guys are thinking, I've been there too, but
settle down and do each other some good. Don't forget what music is all
about.
stawick jeffrey alan
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University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign -That's what they said about
Instrumental Music Educator Son of Sam.
(Chevy Chase - Caddy Shack)
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On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Mike Schmitt wrote:
> ez04...@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Patrick Wu) writes:
> >Chris (eau...@ea.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
> >: In article <3mjtif$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, apo...@aol.com (Apolo1) wrote:
> >Where in the HELL do you get of ragging on Etiwanda (my alma mater no
> >less)! I'm sorry, but this is just low. Is this how everyone from Mt.
>
Patrick Wu
: >: In article <3mjtif$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, apo...@aol.com (Apolo1) wrote:
: >Where in the HELL do you get of ragging on Etiwanda (my alma mater no
: >less)! I'm sorry, but this is just low. Is this how everyone from Mt.
: Speaking as another Etiwanda alma mater who predated you by about four or
: five years, may I suggest that flaming the opposition is hardly a good
: way to convince anybody ... including fellow alumna? :)
I admit that my previous appraoch war rather rash. It was late, I was
tired and I just sort of upset me. The long and short of it: I'm sorry.
Mount Carmel does have an outstanding music program. I just want to make
clear that I'm really a nice guy, really! :)
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stawick jeffrey alan
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University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign -That's what they said about
Instrumental Music Educator Son of Sam.
(Chevy Chase - Caddy Shack)
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On 20 Apr 1995, Patrick Wu wrote:
> Mike Schmitt (dizz...@netcom.com) wrote:
> : ez04...@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Patrick Wu) writes:
> : >Chris (eau...@ea.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
> : >: In article <3mjtif$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, apo...@aol.com (Apolo1) wrote:
> : >Where in the HELL do you get of ragging on Etiwanda (my alma mater no
> : >less)! I'm sorry, but this is just low. Is this how everyone from Mt.
>
> : Speaking as another Etiwanda alma mater who predated you by about four or
> : five years, may I suggest that flaming the opposition is hardly a good
> : way to convince anybody ... including fellow alumna? :)
>
> I admit that my previous appraoch war rather rash. It was late, I was
> tired and I just sort of upset me. The long and short of it: I'm sorry.
> Mount Carmel does have an outstanding music program. I just want to make
> clear that I'm really a nice guy, really! :)
>
> --
Joe Gray
-> In article <3mjtif$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, apo...@aol.com (Apolo1
->
-> > For all you Marching Band People did you know that the Etiwand
-> > School Marching Eagle Regiment went virtually undefeated this seaso
-> > will be going to the `96 Rose Parade and the Band of America Nation
-> > Let me give you a little background of us though. This season
-> > the best year ever , we preformed all over California. We also wen
-> > tour thru Arizona and Nevada. We won the nevada cup at UNLV. But
-> > I writing this , so that you see us next season we will be on T.V.
-> > So drop me some e-mail me about what you think.
->
-> I can not believe that Etiwanda is going to the Rose Parade. This is
-> biggest crock I've ever heard of. Did you guys even attend any parade
-> competitions last season. As I recall Etiwanda used to suck not too l
-> ago, 3 or 4 years ago, I think. I was a sophmore at Mt Carmel and I
-> remember Etiwanda getting Whooped on the street every time we saw you
-> the two years you did parade. You also didn'y cook so well on the fie
-> Then, as I heard it, your program dropped the parade part because you
-> always got worked, and decided to concentrate solely on the field. I
-> heard you guys have band camp over the entire summer. Is that why you
-> band shrunk? You also added electric stuff because your players could
-> produce enough sound. How many sousaphones did you march last season?
-> believe it was 1 and I'm not sure if that wasn't just for looks. I do
-> even know how you guys got the rose bowl bid, but I know it'll suck
-> becuase you won't be able to plug yourselves in and that token sousa
-> going top provide enough bass for the rest of the band. The Mount Car
-> Marching Sundevils were clearly robbed. They have a quality program o
-> over 200 instrumentalists that is successful both on the street and f
-> In 1993, Mt. Carmel took sweepstakes at everytournamnet it attended,
-> field and street, except at BOA, where electric bands are appaently g
-> an advatage just because their pit's fingers can make more noise than
-> band. Last year the Sundevils were again highly succesful in BOTH eve
-> including best Parade band at the Fiesta Bowl Parade. With such a
-> reputation on BOTH the Street and Field it is a disgrace to the Rose
-> Parade selection committee to ommit them in favor of band who hasn't
-> consistently proved themselves on the street and relies on electric
-> instruments for the field, an option they won't have come January 1.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SLAM!!!!! Actually I didn't think Mt. Carmel was
that great this year, I go to Vista and I saw you guys at your own
tourny and you guys didn't sound that great with that John Williams
crap, but I only heard you guys once. On the other hand we RULED this
year, but you are a very good writer!
Joe Gray
Mellophone Velvet Knights '95
Drum Major Vista Regimental Band '95
Trumpet Section Leader V.H.B. '95
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HFMoon
>show quality when they pick some bands for their parade.
Actually, the Tournament of Roses committee picks the bands for the
parade. The only bands that play in the Rose Bowl on New Years Day are the
bands of the two schools whose football teams made it to the Rose Bowl.
Just for clarification, the Rose Bowl Game and the T.of Roses Parade are
not connected, except that the bands in the Game are invited to perform in
the parade.
Richard, Euph
Dale Alan Fine
>Actually, the Tournament of Roses committee picks the bands for the
>parade. The only bands that play in the Rose Bowl on New Years Day are the
>bands of the two schools whose football teams made it to the Rose Bowl.
>Just for clarification, the Rose Bowl Game and the T.of Roses Parade are
>not connected, except that the bands in the Game are invited to perform in
>the parade.
>
>Richard, Euph
>
I suppose the Tournament of Roses committee is what I should have been
talking about. I know that when my director was applying for the King
Orange Parade, he had to send in a tape of the field show. I simply
guessed that the T of R did the same thing. Thanks for the edification.
Emeraude
Dale Alan Fine <gt8...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
>I don't think the Rose Bowl Committee cares that much about field
>did have over 250 members, which I think is more important to the Rose
>Committee in some cases.
I think they only choose bands that are 175+ members, or that's what
they used to do.
congrats to Etiwanda for making the parade on the second try (or that's
the impression I got reading this thread) -- I remember my high school
(Thousand Oaks) tried every year, and never made it (even the year that we
won Arcadia... we had a good run (maybe added with a little bit of luck)
and we impressed the judges, but we couldn't impress the Rose Parade
folks. That was I think the first time I heard the rumor about size
limitation for the Rose Parade bands...)
my two cents,
rika
HFMoon
(tons of derogatory and spiteful things ommitted)
: Parade selection committee to ommit them in favor of band who hasn't
: consistently proved themselves on the street and relies on electric
: instruments for the field, an option they won't have come January 1.
As a citizen of Pasadena, I feel I must apologize for the Rose Parade
committee for not consulting Chris, the self-appointed master of all
marching band knowledge in the universe. Next time the Committee will ask
Chris who he thinks is "good enough" for the parade. In the meantime, why
don't you shut the fuck up? Who the hell are you to say that Etiwanda
shouldn't be in the Parade? Last time I saw them(Last fall), they were
pretty damn good. Don't get me wrong, I'm for open forum as much as
anyone, but how about inteligent exchange of ideas and opinions, instead
of "YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK AND YOU SOUND LIKE SHIT!"
Nobody's perfect, but we don't have to get nasty.
Richard, Euph
Chris
how much of it had arose in my letter. It was a poor showing on my part
and should not be reflected on the band which is composed of quality
people. I was overwhelmed with again seeing my alma mater denied from from
the grand daddy of parades. Images flashed in my mind of the photographs
hanging our band room portraying bands of the past upon the street in the
begging of the year. I believe they went 3 or 4 times in a relative short
time durning the late seventies and early eighties and then we came upon a
dry spell. The district insigated a policy that each high school in the
district (then Mt. Carmel and Poway, now including Rancho Bernardo) could
only attend the rose parade once every 4 years and only one band could go
in a given year because of the financial drain it was putting in the
district. I also heard the words of my band director saying this was our
year to go for each of my years there. My freshman year we were denied
outright. My sophmore year the new band Rancho Bernardo got the nod. My
junior year the pride of the Poway Unified School District, the Poway High
School Emerald Brigade was asked to attend. My Senior year I was ceritian
the band would go, all the other schools in the district had gone, and the
year before we won at ech parade we attended including La Palma and
Arcadia, scoring higher than both our sister schools.But alas it wsa not
to be. Instead they went to the Fiesta Bowl and took top honors in parade,
and I went to college.I was also instilled with images of mediocre bands
making it on gimmics, such as the Los Angles Honor Band. Although this
works get for concert bands when it comes to marching it's just not the
same. There are too many band directors teaching so many variations of
marching that it just does not come of clean. As for Etiwanda's Parade
skills, they are something I have not seen in recent years and in your
letter you did not address this point so I can only assume that it is not
part of their competition. Now for the elctric pit. I too agree that it
can really compliment a band. The Riverside Community College Marching
Tigers are an excellent example of this. Unfortunately, far too many bands
use the electric insruments to supplement their lack of instrumentation.
You can not honestly tell me a lone sousaphone and a handful of trombones
and baritones can provide enough bottom for the volumes that Etiwanda does
reach at points on the field. It is this that angers me because it seems
to be rewarded by the judges, as does expensive props and flags. And in
response to your attacks of Mt. Carmels concert abilities, a point which
was not addressed in my original letter, it is a quality world renouned
program. The Wind Enseble has recieved Superiors for the past ten years, I
believe. The concert and freshamn bands also consistenly get Superior
ratings. The band has just recently preformed for some directors
association meeting in Los Angles. The Wind Ensemble has been invited to
Chicago to perform for the national band directors assosiation next year,
although a trip to Hawaii for the entire band is also planned for that
year and two trips in one year might be a bit much. The bnad has competed
in Hawaii before and in recent years has made tours abroad for parade and
concert. They participated in the Edinburgh festival in Scotland and
preformed in other cities in the U.K. They have also toured Japan for
their international music festival, which included concerts and parades. I
hope I have cleared up some of the issues here, after all we are all
musicians, despite the color of our uniform.
"Music without emotion is merely notes and rhythms."
Chris
BF Spanky
either of you guys, (El Camino H.S.), just relax. Everyone knows that the
S.C.S.B.O.A judging is all whacked so don't put all your stock in what
everyone else says about your show. Be proud of what you did, respect and
admire what others do, sit back and watch R.C.C., then go and get your
trophy.
It sounds like a cliche but if you try you hardest, you WILL be
winners. The best feeling is not hearing your school be announced as
sweeps winner; the best feeling is slamming your horn down after a show,
listening to the crowd cheer, and knowing that you and your band just
kicked some ass.
Mike Schmitt
>Alright Mike! Keep em in line. (Beat them if you have to.)
How do you think I was such an effective section leader when I was there?
:)
Mike
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> Next time the Committee will ask
> Chris who he thinks is "good enough" for the parade. In the meantime, why
> don't you shut the fuck up? Who the hell are you to say that Etiwanda
> shouldn't be in the Parade? Last time I saw them(Last fall), they were
> pretty damn good.
Hey Richard, "Why don't we all just get along." :-)
Villaluz3
I am one of the drum majors who your band encountered at Star of Nevada
this past marching season. I just saw your post, and I am still
wondering.... how can a band that is not a Nevada band win the Nevada Cup,
which is given out to the highest scoring Nevada band? Umm...I don't know,
I think Vegas won it this year, Las Vegas High, that is....I don't know,
just curious.....if there was a change in the rulebook, I'll be sure to
let you know....
If you're wondering what school I am from, this should help you out...
GO SUNDEVILS!!!!!
Chris
the Rose Parade then the world could have seen the top ranked color guard
in the nation. Mount Carmel won this honor at the WGI national tournament
in Dayton, OH. They did this with raw skill and talent, not hidding behind
props or special effets.
Chris
Gray) wrote:
> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SLAM!!!!! Actually I didn't think Mt. Carmel was
> that great this year, I go to Vista and I saw you guys at your own
> tourny and you guys didn't sound that great with that John Williams
> crap, but I only heard you guys once. On the other hand we RULED this
> year, but you are a very good writer!
> Joe Gray
> Mellophone Velvet Knights '95
> Drum Major Vista Regimental Band '95
> Trumpet Section Leader V.H.B. '95
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How does field perfomance affect selection for a parade? I do believe the
judges only saw the bands preform on the street. Thanks for the writing
compliment though, and I'm happy to see some attention on West Coast
bands.
Chris
stawick jeffrey alan <sta...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> How does a band go "virtually" undefeated? Did you guys just kind of lose?
>
>
Perhaps you'd like to reread my atricles. I do not recall saying we went
"virtually" undefeated. I believe my words were "In 1993, Mt. Carmel took
sweepstakes at everytournamnet it attended, both field and street, except
at BOA," and "Last year the Sundevils were again highly succesful in BOTH
events
including best Parade band at the Fiesta Bowl Parade." Perharps I am
mistaken, but I believe these were my only broad comments about our
performance during a season.
Patrick Wu
: part of their competition. Now for the elctric pit. I too agree that it
: can really compliment a band. The Riverside Community College Marching
: Tigers are an excellent example of this. Unfortunately, far too many bands
: use the electric insruments to supplement their lack of instrumentation.
: You can not honestly tell me a lone sousaphone and a handful of trombones
: and baritones can provide enough bottom for the volumes that Etiwanda does
: reach at points on the field. It is this that angers me because it seems
: to be rewarded by the judges, as does expensive props and flags. And in
Hi again. I want to make clear that I do agree that too much electronic
sound tends to corrupt. In fact, I complained about the same issue about
another band that kicked our a** my freshman year at Etiwanda.
--
KC6SBI
shocked to see the number of postings under "Etiwanda High School." I am a
current EHS band member and I'd like to clear up all of this discussion in
a nice, respectable way. I don't know who wrote the first message but it
wasn't done very well. It's nice to tell your accomplishments and all, but
that went a little too far. Yes, we had an incredible season. BOA
Regionals, T of C and RCC were very exciting. Yes, the judging was strange
at times. Personally, I don't know if we really deserved to win at RCC.
Yes, we have an electronic pit. It is a pain and it gets annoying at
times. However, by the end of the season, it really fit well with the show
that we had. It was neither overpowerful nor invisible. As far as the Star
of Nevada confusion, Claremont H.S. won the Class AAA competition and was
VERY good. However, Etiwanda H.S. Marching Eagle Regiment won 1st Place in
UNLV finals and was the competition's overall champion. The Nevada Cup was
not (and cannot be) won by us; Las Vegas H.S. won that. (I don't know how
the first post got that misinformation.)
Next, I'd like to address this flaming among bands. It is so useless to
show off about each band. We all are great. I know that it sounds stupid,
but we really are. Mt. Carmel is a great band! Don't get me or the EHS
Band Program wrong. (By the way, we had 4 sousaphones this year, not 1.)
No, we are not traditionally a parade band, but we haven't given it up.
The Rose Parade officals saw us at RCC and T of C and requested that we
represent So. Cal in the Parade. We know that our parade skills are not as
good as our field shows and we have planned many extra rehearsals for the
Parade. Our band has consistently gotten larger in the past several years.
Last year we had 151, next year we are estimating 180-200 members.
Yes, we did attend the BOA National Concert Band Festival in Chicago. I
hope that all of you get to go. You would really realize that competition
between each other like this is silly. In Chicago, I heard 15 other great
bands, each just as good or better than us. We didn't hate each other; we
respected each other.
I saw all of the apologies and that's great. I just wanted to clear up any
confusion and hopefully clear the way to discuss all of the So. Cal bands
in a constructive and positive way. I can't wait to see all of the bands
next year. Good Skill to you all!
Richard
Johnson
Etiwanda High School Marching
Eagle Regiment
Etiwanda High School Wind
Ensemble
Class of 1997
Dstej
1. As someone said earlier, SCSBOA judging is an absolute disgrace. I
saw a band, which shall go nameless, win high marching for doing 32 count
step drlls followed by park-and-play. Real tough drill. Essentially, the
winners in "scuzz-bo" are the bands whose directors kiss the most ass (or
are judges themselves -- another absolute joke to have directors
critiquing one another).
2. Mt. Carmel has a tremendous program (though I found RB the best in
Poway this year); however, I'd rather lose than deal with Warren Torns.
But, I'm from the Midwest; which, imo, is a whole different (and wholly
superior) league. But the best band I saw this year (and I saw them all)
was Mission Viejo, which competes primarily in MBASC (superior band,
superior [DCI] judging).
3. Congrats to Etiwanda -- you had a great season this year and you
should be very proud to be going to the Rose Parade. I hope you also
compete in the field competition.
Again, these are just personal observations and are not intended to offend
but rather to give an outside perspective of your respective programs and
so-called "marching band" in Southern California.
--D.
David Stejkowski ***Only a lawyer could write***
(ST...@JURIS.COM) ***a 10,000 word document ***
San Diego, CA ***and call it a brief. ***
Heffe CA
;another band that kicked our a** my freshman year at Etiwanda
Hmmmmmmmmmm, CW?
Patrick Wu
: ;Hi again. I want to make clear that I do agree that too much electronic
: ;another band that kicked our a** my freshman year at Etiwanda
: Hmmmmmmmmmm, CW?
You seem to know your history. :)
Emily S. Purdy
few years, but I hear they're one of the best programs i Southern Cal,
way to go!