How much does your band get paid?
I know Alan Wong!
tickets that we can give to family members or friends. Note the
'give'...it's hard to find anyone willing to _pay_ for Illini football
these days. Anyhow, they do pay us for some basketball games, though.
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, R.F. Heim wrote:
> I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
> semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
> Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
>
>
> Robert Heim
> LSU Baritones 93,94
> LSU Tubas 95,96
>
>
Chris Garcia
"food expenses" at away games... and $5.15/hr for bengal brass (about
$15/game)
glad to see there's another Tiger Band person (even though you aren't in TB
anymore) on the group..
--
-Chris "Jerry" Garcia
Proud *Member* of The Golden Band From Tigerland
Voted No. 1 in the SEC by SEC Band Directors
1998-99 Big Daddy Sousaphones
"You haven't lived until you've
blown an LSU Tuba"
R.F. Heim wrote in message ...
Chris Garcia
KNOW i spelled that wrong :)) us for cleaning the uniform parts and
maintaining the instrument and stuff like that..
--
-Chris "Jerry" Garcia
Proud *Member* of The Golden Band From Tigerland
Voted No. 1 in the SEC by SEC Band Directors
1998-99 Big Daddy Sousaphones
"You haven't lived until you've
blown an LSU Tuba"
Cunning76 wrote in message <19981029224300...@ng106.aol.com>...
>Robert Heim wrote:
>
><<I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
>semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
<<snip>>
>Paid? For marching? Ha!
R.F. Heim
semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
Jimmy Pierce
go on. The pep-bands get paided a little more, but I'm not sure how much.
Jonathan Pierce
UTK Trombones
GO VOLS!!!!!
Cunning76
<<I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff. Just
curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?>>
Paid? For marching? Ha!
Ben Cunningham
JSU Marching Southerners
1994-1996 (in various capacities)
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Luis M Sanchez
in the lab fee? Well, there are 5 dry cleanings taken care of by the band
proper included along with 2-uniform t-shirts, and a pair of white spats.
You must provide your own marching footwear, i.e.-black athletic shoes.
Perks to being in the band? Well when you buy a season football ticket,
you are reimbursed the full amount of the ticket, and you can give them to
whomever you wish (selling these tickets is a big no-no, also we don't
need a ticket to get in the big house). Another perk to being in the band
(besides front row seats) is the football team (and the band) hasn't
missed a bowl in over 20 years, which means a nice trip every snowy winter
season (drawback to this is not everyone gets to go on the bowl trip). As
far as athletic bands go, there are no lab fees, but the season ticket
deal doesn't hold true here. Volleyball and women's basketball band
members get paid per performance, while men's basketball and hockey bands
do not. The basketball bands do get some nice free apparel from Nike
though, but not the hockey band. Also meals are provided on all trips,
and we got big time per diem spending cash in Boston for last year's NCAA
hockey final four, but actually most of it ended being spent at the nice
restaurants in Boston. Oh yeah, did I mention we don't get paid, but I'm
definitely not complaining.
Luis M. Sanchez
University of Michigan Marching and Hockey Band Snareline
Glassmen Drum and Bugle Corps Top Bass Drum
Samuel Fang
>I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
>semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
>Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
None, really. In the *long* run (when the MVs go on bowl games) the
members get some money back, but most of that's spent on (liquid)
lunches and (liquid) dinners.
There's something like a ~$15 fee paid by all members, plus a ~$10 fee
paid by rookies. This is during band camp. After that, the band pays
for two or three uniform dry cleanings a season (if you get your
uniform spectacularly dirty, and it isn't time for *everyone's*
uniform to get cleaned, you pay for it).
Per diem money is given, of course, for away games (usually ~$20), and
band member usually get about $110 for bowl games.
If a band member was *really* careful with his/her money, they could
come back from band with about $150 in the pocket over the course of
the season, but it's *realy* easy to spend that money on trips...
Gotta hate those hotels for making you pay for some of the *ahem*
movies that are on pay-per-view...
;-)
Samuel Fang
samue...@vt.edu
VTubas, Virginia Tech
"Hey, we don't need alcohol to have fun!!" - Unidentified UNC band member
"Yeah, and you don't need a partner to have sex, either!!" - Eric "Kos-Mo" Fischer, VTubas
Jim Gass
nor do we get tickets to give ayone..we are even inelligible for student
tickets. if we try to get student tickets they will confiscate our ID. We
have 2 football pep bands, Orange, which is the top band, and white, which is
the lower band..ORange band gets a $100.00 stipend and the White band gets a
$75.00 stipend. we also have basketball pep bands, Both equal, an orange and
a white, who get paid 15.00 for every basketball game they attend.
Jim Gass
Trombone
University of Tennessee
Pride of the Southland Marching Band
R.F. Heim wrote:
> I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
> semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
> Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
>
JPepper79
>I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
>semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
>Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
>
Million Dollar Band members get a $75 check at the end of the year. Section
Leaders get $250 or thereabouts (I may be wrong). But throughout the season we
get money for trips, etc. For example, when we bus to Birmingham's Legion
Field for a "home"game, we get $7 for food. And on a road trip, like this
recent 3 day trip to Knoxville, we get $55. We don't have any band fees, but
we have to clean our own uniforms. But, all in all, just a *little* less than
you LSU people ;)
Justin Pepper
University of Alabama
Million Dollar Trombones
Timpdude
band is about on here. Why not do marching band for the love of music? Hey, I
am in the PIT at JSU and we have 2 pick up trucks that help us take everything
that we own (equiptment wise) to every rehearsal. The pit is the first to get
there (by 30 minutes) and the last to leave (by about 35-40 minutes) so in
essance along with our 1 hour 45 minute rehearsal we are there an extra hour or
so. And we don't get paid a dime for any of it. We do it for the love of music
and the pride in our organization. My next question should be .. if you didn't
get paid so much would you still do it?
-------------------------------------
Michael Bell
Timpanist/Percussionist
Jacksonville St. University
Marching Southerners PIT
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Jim Gass
for gigs. Jus' lettin my boy know
Jim Gass
Trombone
University of Tennessee
Pride of the Southland Marching Band
Jimmy Pierce wrote:
> Here at UTK we get paided $200 for band camp and $38 for each away game we
> go on. The pep-bands get paided a little more, but I'm not sure how much.
>
> Jonathan Pierce
> UTK Trombones
> GO VOLS!!!!!
>
> >I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
> >semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
> >Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
> >
> >
Chris Garcia
the LSU Tiger Band at Tiger Day (lsu's "open house")... I do band (both
marching and symphonic) because music is something i love to do, (it's one
of the few things i'm good at) ... I don't do it for the money, but I don't
mind getting it.
And yes, I would do it still even if i didn't get paid... I found out that
LSUTMB gets paid about 4 years after i started wanting to be in it.
--
-Chris "Jerry" Garcia
Proud *Member* of The Golden Band From Tigerland
Voted No. 1 in the SEC by SEC Band Directors
1998-99 Big Daddy Sousaphones
"You haven't lived until you've
blown an LSU Tuba"
Timpdude wrote in message <19981030003516...@ng126.aol.com>...
<<snip>>
Para-Joe-Diddle
joe
psu snare
(we don't get paid)
JPepper79 wrote:
> rh...@tiger.lsu.edu wrote:
>
> >I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
> >semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
> >Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
> >
>
Bill Wahl
we actually end up spending quite a bit of money to be in it. Everyone pays a $95 lab fee on
top of the normal tuition for the class. That lab fee gets us two t-shirts, a pair of spats,
and a three pairs of gloves. Throughout the season, we have to buy new gloves for $2 a pair,
and most of the time you'll need at least one new pair a week. We do get per diem money for
bowl trips an away games when we need to buy our own food, but not enough to really make a
profit with. People in our volleyball band, and women's basketball band do get paid, however
people in hockey band and men's basketball band are not paid whatsoever.
Bill Wahl
1998 Michigan Tubas
Yasmin Malik
At SC we get paid one ticket ( you know for someone to come and watch) other than
that you can apply for band grants but most everybody does it for free or did before
their band grant.
Yasa
J. Utech
> Paid for marching band?!?!? That is sad. People don't realize what marching
> band is about on here. Why not do marching band for the love of music? Hey, I
> My next question should be .. if you didn't
> get paid so much would you still do it?
That's really the big question. I don't think that it's so sad that
people get paid to march, i think it's sad if that's their reason for
marching, tho. I mean, as i see it, there should be three reasons that
people march in their college marching band:
1.) they love performance
2.) the chamaraderie that being in that sort of ensemble creates
3.) a love of the home football team
I don't think that money should be a reason to march. But i'll guarantee
you this: if the Iowa AD decided to pay the Hawkeye Marching Band, i'd
GLADLY take the money.
Coincidentally, we have a $15 charge on our University Account for every
semester that we march which covers one pair of gloves and one uniform
t-shirt. Not bad seeing how we go on at least one trip every year, and
some years we go on as many as three (Like last year: Iowa State,
Northwestern and the Sun Bowl) and they're all expenses paid by the
athletic department. I think that's "payment" enough, personally.
Jeff
Brian Hetsko
> paid???PAID???!!!??HAHAHAHAHAHAH.BWAAAHAHAHAHA!
>
> joe
> psu snare
> (we don't get paid)
> JPepper79 wrote:
thread... Damn. I just like the 1 credit A. :-)
--
Brian Adam Hetsko Yet each man kills the thing he loves
Class of 2001 By each let this be heard,
Lehigh University Some do it with a bitter look,
Computer Engineering Some with a flattering word.
Delta Sigma Phi The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword
-O. Wilde
http://brianhetsko.base.org
JPepper79
>paid???PAID???!!!??HAHAHAHAHAHAH.BWAAAHAHAHAHA!
>
>joe
>psu snare
>(we don't get paid)
>JPepper79 wrote:
Maybe I should clear something up: We don't get paid as in "Hey, you just
spent 20 hours of this past week, here's a check." The $75 stipend at the end
of the year is to reimburse us for uniform cleaning costs, which usually add up
to MORE than 75$, since we're expected to keep our uniforms *very* clean.
Also, with the money we're given for trips, that is for food and drinks only,
and usually I don't have any of that left by the end of the trip. The only
*real* payment we get is free entrance to the games ;)
JP
Joe Klim
i probaly spend about 150 to be in the band...the only thing i get back
is the fun ;)
mgh
Actually, we have to pay for the 1 credit hour class and pay for instrument
rental so we end up losing money on the deal. The cool thing is everyone's
there because they want to be. :)
-Mark
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, I know Alan Wong! wrote:
> Here at Illinois, we don't get paid, but we do get two season
> tickets that we can give to family members or friends. Note the
> 'give'...it's hard to find anyone willing to _pay_ for Illini football
> these days. Anyhow, they do pay us for some basketball games, though.
>
> On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, R.F. Heim wrote:
>
> > I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
> > semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
> > Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
> >
> >
mgh
pockets too. :)
-Mark
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Chris Garcia wrote:
> what's so funny about it? :) actually the $640 is supposed to reimburse (i
> KNOW i spelled that wrong :)) us for cleaning the uniform parts and
> maintaining the instrument and stuff like that..
>
> --
> -Chris "Jerry" Garcia
> Proud *Member* of The Golden Band From Tigerland
> Voted No. 1 in the SEC by SEC Band Directors
> 1998-99 Big Daddy Sousaphones
> "You haven't lived until you've
> blown an LSU Tuba"
>
> Cunning76 wrote in message <19981029224300...@ng106.aol.com>...
> >Robert Heim wrote:
> >
> ><<I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
> >semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
>
>
mgh
Most of the people here would still be in band even if they didn't get
paid. I don't remember seeing anyone post a message that said the money's
what keeps them in band. What makes you think we don't understand what
marching band's all about? Being in a poor ($$) band doesn't give you the
right to put people down. Money may not be their motivation.
I was also in a band that didn't get paid. But this doesn't give me the right
to make generalizations about people who do get paid. To be honest, a little
money would have come in handy during crunch times.
-Mark
On 30 Oct 1998, Timpdude wrote:
> Paid for marching band?!?!? That is sad. People don't realize what marching
> band is about on here. Why not do marching band for the love of music? Hey, I
> am in the PIT at JSU and we have 2 pick up trucks that help us take everything
> that we own (equiptment wise) to every rehearsal. The pit is the first to get
> there (by 30 minutes) and the last to leave (by about 35-40 minutes) so in
> essance along with our 1 hour 45 minute rehearsal we are there an extra hour or
> so. And we don't get paid a dime for any of it. We do it for the love of music
> and the pride in our organization. My next question should be .. if you didn't
> get paid so much would you still do it?
>
>
Chihiro George Kurokawa
"R.F. Heim" wrote:
> I was in LSU band from 93-96 and the members get paid $640 for the fall
> semester. None for spring unless you do basketball games and other stuff.
> Just curious as to how much or if other schools pay their band members?
>
> Robert Heim
> LSU Baritones 93,94
> LSU Tubas 95,96
--
-----
Chihiro George Kurokawa
The University of California
chi...@uclink4.berkeley.edu
R.F. Heim
and march at the same time in addition to classes. They decided on $640
b/c that USED TO BE :( half of tuition.
Timpdude
>right to put people down.
Who said that our band was poor?!?!! I never said that. We use our money for
other things such as Pit instruments/horns/props. things that benefit us on the
field, not just money to give to people for playing.
JPepper79
>From: timp...@aol.com (Timpdude)
>Date: 10/31/98 12:00 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <19981031010002...@ng74.aol.com>
>
>We use our money for
>other things such as Pit instruments/horns/props. things that benefit us on
>the
>field, not just money to give to people for playing.
Props? PROPS???!!!??? Doesn't that take away from the musicality of the group
as a whole?
Heehee....couldn't resist.
May have something to do with hunch punch ;)
JP
PS: Being facetious, okay? No reply necessary...we all know your views on
said topic.
Timpdude
>group
>as a whole?
Props are not fireworks. Props when done in taste actually add to the shows.
But not when you have so much stuff on the field that it is distracting. We
have no props for the Southerners line this year, but we do have a couple for
our indoor drumline.
>Heehee....couldn't resist.
>May have something to do with hunch punch ;)
Hunch Punch RULES!!! Except when watered down like ours was Thursday night!!
Yasmin Malik
curious)
Yasmin
Shrub
shows.
>But not when you have so much stuff on the field that it is distracting. We
>have no props for the Southerners line this year, but we do have a couple
for
>our indoor drumline.
I once saw a high school band use fireworks once and was quite impressed by
it. It added a lot to the visual effect of the show.
Shrub
Chris Garcia
University (as opposed to Bands Deptartment) .. and all 325 (which includes
color guard and golden girls) get paid ... not sure about grad assts and
managers though
--
-Chris "Jerry" Garcia
Proud *Member* of The Golden Band From Tigerland
Voted No. 1 in the SEC by SEC Band Directors
1998-99 Big Daddy Sousaphones
"You haven't lived until you've
blown an LSU Tuba"
Yasmin Malik wrote in message <363BE524...@scf.usc.edu>...
Ggausline1
groups get a deal like that. I think it is very unique and would like that
with my program someday, probably like a lot of people.
Gregg Gausline
BM Ole Miss
MM Auburn
DMA student at U. of Miami presently
FHDude3500
scolarships, but those are usually are for other programs such as wind ensemble
and or jazz programs. but if you are in the pride you get at least out of state
waived and or 500 dollars, but you are stuck in another ensemble for the
spring, and non majors do not get as much as majors. Majors can get up to 1500
dollars in scholarship money. We are fortunate that we dont have to pay for
uniform cleaning and there are no band fees or rental costs (and belive me if
you saw the mellophones you wouldnt want to pay rental costs) we also never
have to pay for meal and we get the usual meal money. as for pep bands, we
diddnt send any out this year, and you get 20 bux a game for basketball, but
you have to be in another concert ensemble and audtition for the assistant band
director. But I would do it if I had to pay for everyrthing as I did high
school. I love to play really loud and high and I love marching on a football
field, hey I wouldnt audition for corps if I diddnt, and its fun to see our
football team from this little tiny school that no one has heard of play big
time football with the like of Penn State, Texas A&M, and Alabama (all of which
totally kicked our but)
Colby
University of Southern Mississippi
Pride of Mississippi Marching Band
Mellophone
Mr. Scott F. Axel
wrong ) We don't get paid for band.. but.. for certain pep bands that
we do ( not during the marching band season ) get paid. But.. that is
only between 10 to 35 dollars a band. And.. it is a senority-deal.
So.... its really hard for rookies to get the 'good paying' pep bands..
and depending on the secion.. 2nd years too.
(who got all the 'good paying' bands last year!!!)
--=Scott=-- 3:19 PM 11/1/98
"Music heals the soul and cures the mind."
The Ohio State University
Kappa Kappa Psi-Eta Chapter
TBDBITL -staff-
BLGrimace
>groups get a deal like that. I think it is very unique and would like that
>with my program someday, probably like a lot of people.
Kent State Marching Golden Flashes are paid to march, as well. . . not sure of
the dollar amount, but it's somewhere (I believe) in the 200s. . .
Grimace
-------------
"Sometimes accepting how things are is all we can do"
-- Katherine R. Larsen, 1978-1998
BLGrimace
>
>wrong ) We don't get paid for band.. but.. for certain pep bands that
Ah, the problems of having a large, awesome marching band, eh? The day we
have to audition people and can stop "bribing" them to join, I think I'll have
a heart attack.
Robert J Heim
Chris Garcia
just there for the money... If you average it out, the LSU Dept. of Bands
pays us roughly $0.25 or so an hour to perform ... i mean, i got paid better
working for Godfather's Pizza.. $133/month is not really that much ... If i
wanted money, i'd get a real job on campus instead of march.. but i just
happen to like marching!
--
-Chris "Jerry" Garcia
Proud *Member* of The Golden Band From Tigerland
Voted No. 1 in the SEC by SEC Band Directors
1998-99 Big Daddy Sousaphones
"You haven't lived until you've
blown an LSU Tuba"
mgh wrote in message ...
Phoenix
If you can consider it pay. I'd sooner want to get the money to buy the
ticket with instead. Band grants are nice (compared to nothing), but you
end up being a slave to the band program for the entire spring semester. If
you don't have the time, then you're just SOL.
The occasional gigs are nice (paid by the people we do them for), but
they don't exactly call for woodwinds most of the time. In fact, I know a
particular trumpet who's getting a pretty nice deal out of it all...
Jaime
Dosguru
the Oklahoma - ISU game. (Good job OU band!)
The regular members of the ISUCF"V"MB end up paying for uniform rental,
gloves, hats, shoes, shirts, 1 credit hour (unless the person is already has
12) , instrument rental, uniform cleaning, beer, and the parking tickets the
university loves to give us. In return they let us into the game for free
(giving us crappy seats) to watch our (2-6) Cyclones get beat. (We've been
3-17 since I started band.)
I know a few of the staff get paid a little. Chip could add something
to that.
Mr. Scott F. Axel
change your major to medicine or something... you might be able to save
yourself!
--=Scott=-- 11:25 PM 11/1/98
"Music heals the soul and cures the mind."
The Ohio State University
Kappa Kappa Psi-Eta Chapter
TBDBITL -staff-
KAD1996
around $500 per semester in form of scholarship!!The Pep band gets $10 for
women's games and $5 for men's games. We get food money on trips too! On game
day we also get free food!! The twirler gets $???? I know she got a $300
uniform!!! The colorguard use to get scholarship until some stupid ditzy girls
decided to blow off coming to rehearsals..so now we get NOTHING!!!(on guard).
Later Kelly (UNLV colorguard captain)
Mr. Scott F. Axel
bucks for the quarter.. plus, we get credit for a 693 class) The band
(and staff) gets a purdium (did I spell that right?) on away trips (on
this past one, we got 35 bucks a piece). But.. I would not consider
that being 'paid'. Would you?
--=Scott=-- 10:45 AM 11/2/98
BLGrimace
I'm not exactly sure what that is at OSU. . . how many quarter hours is that?
>purdium (did I spell that right?)
Per diem, but it's not important. . . $35 sounds like a lot for a trip. . .
>But.. I would not consider
>
>that being 'paid'. Would you?
Not at all. :-)
Yasmin Malik
All you guys that get paid... is it a reimbursment?? (if you haven't already
specified)... Because @ SC we don't have to paid for band camp, or the hotel and
buses/planes to the away games.... There was meal money once but alas no more...
also some people get band grants and there are paid gigs but not everyone gets to
go on those...
yasmin
mgh
All I was saying is that your band, LIKE ARIZONA STATE, doesn't have the
money to pay its band members. LSU obviously gets more support
financially then your group and mine. That's all I meant when I referred to
us as being in 'poor ($$)' bands. BTW, every band I've ever heard of spends
their money similarily to yours. If LSU, and other groups are spending their
money on instruments etc. and have money to pay their members, then your
band is relatively poor ($$) just like mine. This isn't a bad thing. You're
in the majority on this one. :)
In my post, I was just asking that you not generalize
when making comments about people who DO receive money for marching. I
really don't think that paying members has that much of an effect on a
program other than making student's pocketbook bigger. Also, if you think
about it, $640 dollars isn't really that much money. There are quite a few
ways to raise that kind of money with less invested time and effort.
-Mark
> Who said that our band was poor?!?!! I never said that. We use our money for
BLGrimace
>All you guys that get paid... is it a reimbursment??
Nope, it's a straight paycheck for us
Matt Rogish
registration was all the bills that I had to pay: marching shoes and gloves,
pre semester meal plan, pre semester housing, the list goes on and on. You
guys have it good! ;)
--
Matt
KAD1996 wrote in message <19981102033117...@ng71.aol.com>...
Mr. Scott F. Axel
>is that?
Marching Band is 2 credit hours, the rest of the athletic bands are
just one.
> Per diem, but it's not important. . . $35 sounds like a lot for a
>trip. . .
>
Damn.. I was not even close! LoL.. The sad thing.. I even have a spell
checker on my reader :-) Our record fund helped chip in to the **per
diem** (see.. I learned!) this trip... so... it was a little bit
higher than normal.
--=Scott=-- 10:53 AM 11/3/98
BLGrimace
>Marching Band is 2 credit hours, the rest of >the athletic bands are just one.
Is that normal? Because I know *all* of our bands (athletic and otherwise)
are one credit hour. Of course, they generally meet for 5 or 6 hours each week
and require at least that much time in the practice room, but that's how much
credit we get for them.
>(see.. I learned!)
Ohio public schools working for us again. . .
>record fund helped chip in to the **per
>
>diem** (see.. I learned!) this trip... so... it was a little bit
>
>higher than normal.
Ah. . . very cool. I know the KSU Wind Ensemble recorded our OCMEA
convention performance last year (Husa, et al.) and sold copies, the money for
which went straight into the members' pockets. (I was principal euphonium and
a soloist, so I got a hefty chunk), so I can dig that.
BLGrimace
>one.
Just one question, slightly (okay, mostly) off topic. . . Two weeks from
tonight, I am having my recital on euphonium. One of the pieces I'm playing is
the Alan Hovhaness Symphony No. 29. The only recording I could find of this
was given to me by Liz Pfaffle, our horn grad, who did her undergrad work at
Ohio State.
The recording is actually Christian Lindberg performing on trombone with the
Ohio State Concert Band, and the date is (I believe) 1994. . . were you in on
this piece? It's a beautiful recording (though the percussion rushes some in
the music for "The Flowering Peach") and I wanted to tell you and anyone who
may have been involved how much it's helped me prepare for this and for the KSU
Student Soloists Competition (I'm a finalist on this piece for the undergrad
division).
Akg1978
year was our first year with a football team, and the "powers that be" decided
that we didnt need a band (marching or otherwise). This year we have a
Football Pep Band that plays at home games only. All members (about 50 I
believe) recieved a grant that will be put in our financial aid account at the
end of the season to be applied towards spring tuition. Grant is to be 100.00
(25 bucks for each game that we performed at). We received free of charge our
"uniform"...USF Pep Band polo shirt and baseball hat, (we provide khaki
shorts), free admission to the games, and some students borrowed instruments
without rental fees. Since it looks like we will go into the post season....the
band will definately get to go...with airfare and hotel paid for..not too sure
about spending money though....I guess we'll see.
Next year we will have an actual marching band...and while the details are
still kind of sketchy..this is what we have been told. All marching band
members will receive a grant of some sort, (I have heard 500.00), the music
dept has ordered a complete set of top of the line marching brass instruments
(they seem to have this thing about all of our instruments matching...no
complaints here though), plus new uniforms of course.
We have had pep bands for mens/womens basketball for several years now. There
are 2 bands (one for mens and one for womens) and only a few "paid" spots for
each instrument in each band. Most of us play in both, so there are rarely
openings....but the spots usually go by seniority and if there is an
opening...there is an audition. Anyone else is welcome to play for free.
Only paid members go on the conference trips...our airfare and hotel are
covered and we are given money for food. I believe we get about 17 bucks a
game for mens and 14 a game for womens...works out to like 8.50 an hour. Its
a pretty nice deal if you ask me.
BLGrimace
This is *really* off-topic, but do you know Jennifer Otten? I believe she
graduated from USF last year and she's now our trombone/euphonium studio grad
(though she doesn't really play euph, which makes me the grad by default) at
Kent State. She kicks ass, both playing-wise and as a person, and I was just
wondering what you cats thought of her.
Dave Fried
>
> We received free of charge our "uniform"...USF Pep Band polo shirt
> and baseball hat, (we provide khaki shorts),
Waaaah!!!
I wanna be able to wear shorts at games. It's frickin' FREEZING here
now!
--Dave
mgh
years ago, we had 5 homes games in a row at the beginning of the season. Its
still in the 105-110 F range here during September. We still have the
standard polyester and wool uniforms just like everyone else. Eeek!
I don't want to imagine what it would be like to march in the cold though. I
bet it sucks. Out of curiousity, do many of you use vinyl (etc) rimmed
mouthpieces instead of standard pieces? Also, don't you guys have serious
problems with tuning etc. when playing in those temperatures? I remember when
we (Arizona State) traveled to El Paso for the Sun Bowl, the horns (Bb, not
mellos) had problems in early morning rehearsals due to the cold temps. We
were used to adjusting to warmer temperatures.
-Mark
J. Utech
> Wearing shorts while marching would be nice. A couple of
> years ago, we had 5 homes games in a row at the beginning of the season. Its
> still in the 105-110 F range here during September. We still have the
> standard polyester and wool uniforms just like everyone else. Eeek!
Although the polyester and wool unis suck in the hot, they're not too bad
in the cold. At Iowa, it never gets as hot as it does in Arizona (duh)
but our first game is almost always between 90 and 100 degress with 80-90%
humidity. Needless to say, it sucks in our wool/poly blend uniforms.
Usually we take off our jackets during the first game, and we are usually
allowed to have our alternates bring in duffel bags that are just PACKED
with water bottles. But by the same token, by the last game it's usually
20 degrees out.
> I don't want to imagine what it would be like to march in the cold though. I
> bet it sucks. Out of curiousity, do many of you use vinyl (etc) rimmed
> mouthpieces instead of standard pieces? Also, don't you guys have serious
> problems with tuning etc. when playing in those temperatures? I remember when
> we (Arizona State) traveled to El Paso for the Sun Bowl, the horns (Bb, not
> mellos) had problems in early morning rehearsals due to the cold temps. We
> were used to adjusting to warmer temperatures.
And as far as i know, and as far as i've seen, none of the HMB uses vinyl
rimmed mouthpieces. They pretty much stick it out using metal mouthpieces
and chapstick. Same goes for the saxophone players that use metal
mouthpieces (myself included). And as for the Sun Bowl.....well, we had a
really difficult time with tuning because we were used to having our horns
tuned to a certain spot from our last games versus Northwestern and
Minnesota where it snowed and was like 15 degrees out. Then, in El Paso
it was still kinda chilly in the morning, but not as cold as we were used
to, so we had to account for that, then, as the day wore on, and
especially when we came back for our afternoon practices, we had to RETUNE
because it was now 15-20 degrees warmer than in the morning. Stupid El
Paso weather. I wish it would make up its mind.
Jeff Utech
HMB Saxophones
mgh
> allowed to have our alternates bring in duffel bags that are just PACKED
> with water bottles. But by the same token, by the last game it's usually
> 20 degrees out.
We were allowed to take our uniform jacket off when we were in the stands. We
had Tshirts that were one of our school colors. In the early part of the
season, it just unbearable here if you can't remove your jacket. Also they
fill up a half dozen of those 10 gallon water jugs and put them in the stands.
It's really easy to get dehydrated if you don't drink up. We were always in
uniform if we were walking around the stadium or to our cars though.
> And as for the Sun Bowl.....well, we had a
> really difficult time with tuning because we were used to having our horns
> tuned to a certain spot from our last games versus Northwestern and
> Minnesota where it snowed and was like 15 degrees out. Then, in El Paso
> it was still kinda chilly in the morning, but not as cold as we were used
> to, so we had to account for that, then, as the day wore on, and
> especially when we came back for our afternoon practices, we had to RETUNE
> because it was now 15-20 degrees warmer than in the morning. Stupid El
> Paso weather. I wish it would make up its mind.
It was a little cooler in El Paso than it gets here. Still though, the
weather follows the same type of pattern here in Phoenix. It's about 25-30
degrees in the early morning, and then two to three hours later its like 65-70
degrees out. It is weird. Sometimes people just take a light jacket and bear
it for a couple of hours so they don't have to carry around a big one.
That's just the way it is out here in the southwest. We weren't used to the
swing in temp either. We always play in the afternoon, or when its warm out.
In the horn section, we were always sharp if anything. We have our slides
almost all the way out and we still had to lip down. Then we went to El Paso,
flat-ola in the early morning. Yikes! It was a complete flip-flop from what
we were used to. :)
-Mark
Anthony Kootsouradis
>
> Wearing shorts while marching would be nice. A couple of
> years ago, we had 5 homes games in a row at the beginning of the season. Its
> still in the 105-110 F range here during September. We still have the
> standard polyester and wool uniforms just like everyone else. Eeek!
>
> bet it sucks. Out of curiousity, do many of you use vinyl (etc) rimmed
> mouthpieces instead of standard pieces? Also, don't you guys have serious
> problems with tuning etc. when playing in those temperatures? I remember when
> we (Arizona State) traveled to El Paso for the Sun Bowl, the horns (Bb, not
> mellos) had problems in early morning rehearsals due to the cold temps. We
> were used to adjusting to warmer temperatures.
>
>
>
> > Akg1978 wrote:
> > >
> > > We received free of charge our "uniform"...USF Pep Band polo shirt
> > > and baseball hat, (we provide khaki shorts),
> >
> > Waaaah!!!
> >
> > I wanna be able to wear shorts at games. It's frickin' FREEZING here
> > now!
> >
> > --Dave
> >
> >
senior year we marched out in the rain, played the alma mater in sleet,
and had blowing snow by the time the football team came out during the
fight song! Of course our first game of the season, it's always 80-90
degrees + humidity. Everyone with instruments just has to listen for
eachother in tuning in cold weather. We always play with standard
pieces. (though one sax had a plastic reed) I'm sure wool and polyester
in 110 degrees is just about as fun as lycra in 30 degrees (with an
aluminum flag and no gloves).
Shannon Kootsouradis
Riderette 90-93
Mount Union Color Guard 93-97
Kappa Kappa Psi- Iota Lambda
Dosguru
Chris Colvin
ISUCF"V"MB Tuba
Anthony Kootsouradis
In my case, it was not just during the game, it was during PRE-GAME
(rain-to-sleet-to-snow). Besides, what else is there to whine about in
Ohio? :)
Shannon Kootsouradis
Mount Union College Marchers
color guard 93-97
Kappa Kappa Psi- Iota Lambda chapter
J. Utech
> Dosguru wrote:
> >
> > Quit whining about temperature changes during bowl games.
> >
> > Chris Colvin
> > ISUCF"V"MB Tuba
>
> In my case, it was not just during the game, it was during PRE-GAME
> (rain-to-sleet-to-snow). Besides, what else is there to whine about in
> Ohio? :)
Shannon.....i believe the point Chris is making is that at least some of
us using this newsgroup have BEEN on a bowl game trip. But Iowa State
made the first HUGE step.....they beat us this year. *goes and sulks in a
corner, waiting until September 11, 1999 in Ames.
Jeff
Samuel Fang
>Quit whining about temperature changes during bowl games.
You know, that Sugar Bowl in New Orleans (over New Years, no less) in
'95/'96 was *horrible*. I mean, it rained half the time (IIRC: I was
a little toasty during that trip...), and it was chilly (then again,
that made the umm... *sights* on Bourbon Street well... STAND OUT a
little more...).
Actually, the worst was the one sunny day we had that trip. It was
the first morning in New Orleans, and we had a 7 am on-bus time, after
our first night in the French Quarter.
<groan>
The sun *had* to come out when I didn't have sunglasses, right?
;-)
Sorry, man, but that was a classic set-up line...
Samuel Fang
samue...@vt.edu
VTubas, Virginia Tech
"Hey, we don't need alcohol to have fun!!" - Unidentified UNC band member
"Yeah, and you don't need a partner to have sex, either!!" - Eric "Kos-Mo" Fischer, VTubas
Anthony Kootsouradis
>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Anthony Kootsouradis wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Quit whining about temperature changes during bowl games.
> > >
> > > ISUCF"V"MB Tuba
> >
> > In my case, it was not just during the game, it was during PRE-GAME
> > (rain-to-sleet-to-snow). Besides, what else is there to whine about in
> > Ohio? :)
>
> Shannon.....i believe the point Chris is making is that at least some of
> us using this newsgroup have BEEN on a bowl game trip. But Iowa State
> made the first HUGE step.....they beat us this year. *goes and sulks in a
> corner, waiting until September 11, 1999 in Ames.
>
> Jeff
I guess it would be nice to go to a bowl game. *me sulking* Mt. Union
went to nationals- took 200(yes,200) football players, coaches, &
cheerleaders to Virginia and left our band at home :( Good luck next
year, though!
SEBK
Samuel Fang
<snip>
>I guess it would be nice to go to a bowl game. *me sulking* Mt. Union
>went to nationals- took 200(yes,200) football players, coaches, &
>cheerleaders to Virginia and left our band at home :( Good luck next
>year, though!
You guys Div III? The Stagg Bowl, right?
Trust me, Roanoke/Salem isn't anyplace special for the Stagg Bowl. It
kinda sucks, but unless you hung out with all your fans who came down
for the game, it'd be kinda hard to tell that the game was even being
played.
Roanoke, and that general area (not extending to Blackburg, of course)
just isn't a big sports Mecca. The locals don't really care about any
sports but high school football (you know the type) unless they have a
personal stake in the game.
Sorry to vent a little there, but Roanoke's poor sports coverage and
attitude is a rather sore point for most Virginia Tech sports fans...
;-)
Anthony Kootsouradis
VTech is cool! My cousin graduated about 5-6 years ago from there. She
was astro-physics or something equally brilliant. What is your band
like? We started at 30 in 1993 and went up to 90 by 1996.
Shannon K.
Mt. Marchers Guard
Samuel Fang
>VTech is cool! My cousin graduated about 5-6 years ago from there. She
>was astro-physics or something equally brilliant. What is your band
>like? We started at 30 in 1993 and went up to 90 by 1996.
Umm.. well, Tech is a bit larger than that.
;-)
The Marching Virginians, the "civilian" marching band of VT, marches
330 on Game Day. If you include all the alternates, managers, and
staff (all two paid, full time members, plus the one grad student, and
the "senior staff" consisting of senior music ed. majors), you're
looking at about 360-370, depending on how many alternates the MVs
take.
As to what the MVs are like, well, they (I'm kinda retired) are not
exactly your standard dot-to-dot marching band. The usual show
consists of a "normal" "corp-style" opener (though simplified, due to
the new-show-per-home-game policy), followed by a dance number (the
last one was "Crosstown Traffic" from Jimmy Hendrix) which is done in
a big block (the dancing is done during the drum break, usually),
followed by a "traditional" closer (rah, rah, go Tech kinda stuff).
About half the time, the dance number is the Hokie Pokie, the
"signature song" of the band, I guess. 20 tuba players, dancing the
Hokie Pokie while (usually) playing is a rather amusing sight, when
you don't have a bruises in the morning...
;-)
Then there's the other band.
Background history: Virginia Tech (or, technically, Virginia
Polytechnic Institute and State University) used to just be known as
Virginia Polytechnic Institute, and was an all-male military school.
The traditions of that time are still with us, as Tech is the only
other school besides Texas A&M to be a "civilian" school with a
full-time Corp of Cadets (though ours is much smaller, and is often
forgotten nationally).
The "other" band is the Regimental Marching Band, known as the Highty
Tighties, with a much longer history then the MVs (the MVs were
founded ony 25 years ago, the HTs have been around for *about* a
century, I think). IIRC, they're running at about 100 this year, and
they are an almost-military precision marching band. Their standard
pregame show is MP, but when they perform at halftime, they do some
other stuff. Frankly, the HTs suffer from a lack of practice time and
experience (very few of them marched in high school, and the style of
marching is much different for those who had), but the MVs aren't
exactly a precision organization either...
;-)
AFAIK, Tech is the only school with two fully-functional and supported
marching bands. The HTs don't often travel to away games (once in the
past six years), but they do a lot of parades in Washington, D.C. The
MVs are the "public" band, and travel to all the bowl games and at
least one away game a year.
Now see what you've done? You made me rant on for all this while...