Oil Painting technique

Thur

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Jul 8, 2004, 2:54:44 PM7/8/04

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I noticed on occasion acrylic paintings looking like a watercolour,
and seemingly using the same wet in wet and doing reasonably
well at it.

I have seen a great deal more oil paintings than any other sort,
yet have never noticed such effects.

Is it impossible to achieve in oils?

Second question. How is an oil on paper work done and why? The
paper must be something special to hold oil paint? Is the paper
glued to a hard backing first? Is the surface primed as is done for
a canvas?
Thur

Dilettante

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Jul 9, 2004, 5:54:51 AM7/9/04

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"Thur" <a@spamless.z> wrote in message news:

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> Is it impossible to achieve in oils?
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> Second question. How is an oil on paper work done and why?

Second question:

You can do oil on paper. The great masters did a great deal of it, but
mainly for quickies, mainly studies to be made into paintings later.
Of course the paper must be primed. you may be able to use the same
material with which canvas is primed. The point of priming is just to
seal the support (paper, canvas, or whatever) from absorbing the oil.
Now, of course, I use human skin smuggled in to me from India.

First question:

Since oil and turpentine are the medium and thinner respectively for
oil, they create different effects than water. If you look at some of
the work of Alma Tadema, they were stain paintings. With stain
paintings in oil, you only get one chance to get it right.
You can experiment by laying down some oil paints, then fill a
clean brush with thinner/turpentine and see what kinds of effects you
get.
I once used this technique with oil pastels. I was offered millions
for my work, but I gave it all up to join a monastery and serve
humanity.

Dilettante

Necrotruth

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Jul 9, 2004, 11:31:42 PM7/9/04

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"Now, of course, I use human skin smuggled in to me from India."

I've use that in the past, but consider the skin from holocaust Jews,
to be stronger and more durable for that purpose.

Andrew D

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Jul 14, 2004, 7:15:05 AM7/14/04

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In article <ULgHc.773$fh5...@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, "Thur" <a@spamless.z>
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There are a range of products availalble to mix with acrylic paints to
alter their basic properties. One of these additives is actually designed
to make it more like watercolour.

Some oil painters begin with a "turpsy wash" which is oil paint thinned
with a substantial amount of turpentine. This is usually painted over with
heavier paint as the painting progresses. Using a slower drying thinner
(low-odour turps for example) will give a little more time to play with
the wash.

However, many 'experts' warn that such 'overthinning' of the paint can
effectively separate the pigment from the oil medium leading to an
unstable surface.

Paper is cheap and lightweight and so can be used for quick studies or as
a more portable alternative to boards or canvas. If you want the work to
last, the paper needs to be primed to prevent the oil being absorbed and
to prevent the oils from attacking the paper. Work on paper is probably
best framed under glass.

Obviously, the archival quality of the finished product will also depend
on the quality of the paper used.

Andy D.

Bernard Victor

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Dec 6, 2004, 11:17:28 AM12/6/04

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This must be the worst taste message I have ever read on this newsgroup.

Mr Clarke

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"Bernard Victor" <bsvi...@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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More than likely Paints with Shit too.

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