Why I detest Modern Art
Mani Deli
>Hang a Playboy picture next to a Bougureau - no difference -
To someone who draws as badly as you do, "no difference."
Name three Bouguereau's that look like Playboy.
> Lots of people
>will agree they are both art. Fill your house with nicely framed Playboy
>pictures. That's art and it's cheep. You can put thick transparent varnish
>over the Playboy pictures and call them oil-ettes.
>
>And I further say that any Picasso has more art than either Playboy or
>Bouguereau's titillating pictures - Bouguereau the rich man's version of
>Playboy before there was a Playboy.
When is the last time you came in your pants while perusing
Bouguereau?
You haven't even got the skill to trace anything much out of Playboy.
I've seen better drawing in a good university Men's room.
I doubt that o'conner has even seen a Bouguereau.
...no skill no art!
Want to get away from the indecipherable imbecilities and absurd pretensions of the modern art establishment?
Check out my web page http://www3.sympatico.ca/manideli/
keith o'connor (tinmangallery.com
"B" on your site.
Do it Mani - let people see the difference. You are afraid that people will
see no difference.
Mani is afraid to face the truth - Mani you are a failure as an artist. Mani
you are a failure as a human being.
k
Mani Deli <ma...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Richard
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:09:09 -0500, Mani Deli <ma...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>> Lots of people
>>will agree they are both art. Fill your house with nicely framed Playboy
>>pictures. That's art and it's cheep. You can put thick transparent varnish
>>over the Playboy pictures and call them oil-ettes.
>>
>>And I further say that any Picasso has more art than either Playboy or
>>Bouguereau's titillating pictures - Bouguereau the rich man's version of
>>Playboy before there was a Playboy.
Instead of buying modern art, just give a 5 year old kid some candy to
draw or paint something for you. You can also find someone mentally
retarded to do the work. An IQ of 30 should be sufficiently low. The
result will look exactly the same as the stuff by Nik, Keith, and Dan:
retarded, childish, flat, unrealistic, unrecognizable, crudely
executed, etc. In fact, Scott Hamilton, the figure skater, said he was
going to decorate his new house with art made by little kids. I guess
he's cutting out the middleman and going directly to the source.
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keith o'connor (tinmangallery.com
is as high as the scale goes. You are not even at genius level you little
twit. You will never understand real art - you're not smart enough.
k
Richard <cool_a...@z.com> wrote in message
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Mani Deli
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:59:36 -0800, Richard <cool_a...@z.com>
wrote:
...no skill no art!
Nikolaus Maack
Richard wrote:
> Instead of buying modern art, just give a 5 year old kid some candy to
> draw or paint something for you.
I hate to say I agree with you, but I sort of do -- I would encourage
people to create their own art instead of buying it. The title of a
book I read, which turned out to be a rather dull book, says it all:
NO MORE SECOND-HAND ART!
I agree that a lot of art doesn't require skill, so much as passion. So
don't buy your art -- make your own.
(All that being said, I'm planning on auctioning off one of my paintings
sometime in the near future.)
William Palmer
> Richard wrote:
> > Instead of buying modern art, just give a 5 year old kid some candy to
> > draw or paint something for you.
>
> I hate to say I agree with you, but I sort of do -- I would encourage
> people to create their own art instead of buying it.
In all due respect, that strikes me as a sort of
"Emperor's new clothes" solution. The average
person, even the average art-practitioner, does
not have what it takes to create excellent art,
any more than everyone who practices poetry has
the talent for writing a poem worthy of the name,
or composing a sonata that most people would want
to listen to. I am not saying that there is
anything odd about an ordinary person creating
SOME art for his or her home, but I am suggesting
that most people who displayed ONLY their own
art in their homes would dwell in rather limited
surroundings, be they as rich as Bill Gates.
For most people, a little of their own art goes
a long way. The point is, some people could no
doubt do what you suggest successfully, but most--
even people with considerable training at painting,
sculpture, whatever, could not. Bad idea, Mr. Maack.
a.g.b-p.
Nikolaus Maack
William Palmer wrote:
> In all due respect, that strikes me as a sort of
> "Emperor's new clothes" solution. The average
> person, even the average art-practitioner, does
> not have what it takes to create excellent art,
> any more than everyone who practices poetry has
> the talent for writing a poem worthy of the name,
> or composing a sonata that most people would want
> to listen to.
In a world where an all blue canvas passes for art, we can all create
such art. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I've seen the people on
that design show, "Trading Spaces", whip up a piece of "modern art" in a
matter of minutes, deliberately creating something that will fit nicely
with a room.
For one particular episode, they created a "Mondrian-style painting" --
that's how they referred to it. It was the standard grid with some
coloured squares. The colours even matched the couch. It took them
half an hour to create it, if that.
I don't know if you saw Dan Fox's latest work -- an assortment of harsh
black messy lines on an otherwise white canvas. If that's the sort of
thing a person likes, seems to me they could easily create it themselves
and eliminate the middle man. And who is to say that it doesn't achieve
the same level of excellence?
None of this is meant to knock modern art or Dan's work. I like quite a
lot of modern art. But if Mani and Richard are on to something it's
this: a lot of modern art doesn't require a great deal of skill. So why
buy it, when you can make it yourself?
Maybe it's simply more convenient to buy it. But if you want it to
match your couch, or if it doesn't quite do what you want it to do --
make it yourself, and put in the the changes you'd like.
WoN ereH
>buy it, when you can make it yourself?
One of my favorite *sculptures* I had in my youth was a piece of crunched up
rusted corrugated metal I found when an old hotel was demolished on Miami
Beach. Also in the wreckage was a scrapbook of a stripper from the 40's. Buy
art, make art, find it on the side of the road....
Debra