Sketching/Life drawing class
zalzon
sometimes illustrations. A large photograph is useful when doing a
portrait. Otherwise its hard to get the important details of the
face. I prefer doing it small rather than big.
I can draw reasonably well but when it comes to painting I end up
wrecking the picture. Trying to paint a portrait in water colors is
exceedingly difficult. Maybe I don't have the right brushes but the
color just runs all over the place.
Another thing I don't have a good understanding of is shading. Some
areas have to be darker, others lighter to give the 3D effect of the
portrait. Needless to say, I don't bother with shading either.
I have never tried oil painting and wonder if its any better.
Drawing/sketching is the best form of stress relief.
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 14:56:47 +0800, "THOTOISE" <thot...@mymail.com>
wrote:
>Not an authority on portraits and so on, but I do find books quite useful
>and effective in giving the aspiring artist some basics in figure sketching.
>The main problem most people like myself face is that we draw without a good
>knowledge of the human anatomy. The result usually looked out of proportion
>and not natural. You could also learn the finer points of what to highlight
>and what to downplay so that works on portions such as faces have the
>subject's characteristics showing through.
>
>Doing portraits of a subject that sits during your sketches would be good
>but taxing for the subject. A blown-up picture taken with a digital camera
>would be most useful for such attempts. You can then take your time drawing
>from the printed picture. You can even cheat by using Photoshop to render
>the picture in oil or water color, print it out and then copy from there.
>Some people will scream heresy here - but just a thought.
>
>Now, if you want to try oil painting instead, you can learn some basics from
>First Love at Shaw Center (or the Shaw House? - it's the one behind Lido).
>
>Nice to know someone is keen on the finer things in life.
>
>"qwerty" <m_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:d5f3205b.0403...@posting.google.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Dows anybody have any recommendation of sketching/life drawing class
>> in Singapore?
>>
>> I'm a tertiary student, and I'm quite okaay at drawing. But I can't do
>> figure/portrait/life drawing.
>>
>> thanks.
>
Tran Chewla
zalzon...@zalll.com says...
>I can draw reasonably well but when it comes to painting I end up
>wrecking the picture. Trying to paint a portrait in water colors is
>exceedingly difficult. Maybe I don't have the right brushes but the
>color just runs all over the place.
I smell a troll here but if not then...
Maybe you're making the classic mistake of
believing that watercolor is the easiest of
mediums. It's not! Most artists would tell
you it's the most demanding. Oil paints
are the most forgiving - easiest to manipulate.
zalzon
wrote:
>Maybe you're making the classic mistake of
>believing that watercolor is the easiest of
>mediums. It's not! Most artists would tell
>you it's the most demanding. Oil paints
>are the most forgiving - easiest to manipulate.
perhaps I should try oil paints then.
keith o'connor
preference to water colour.
It is interesting that the poster considers his drawing as adequate yet
expresses little understanding of tonal rendering.
There may be more to this than first meets the eye. Possibly a need to
understand the basic differences between form lighting, natural lighting and
scientific lighting.
--
take care: Keith
The language of art is not a scientifically accurate language. The language
of art is based upon the application of tendencies and as such creates more
variety of interpretation between people than absolute agreement between
people.
Keith O'Connor
"Tran Chewla" <hair...@dontemailme.com> wrote in message
news:4047...@news.zianet.com...
Dilettante
>
> I smell a troll here but if not then...
But you yield to temptation anyway. No courage of your convictions.
D.
Tran Chewla
says...
>But you yield to temptation anyway. No courage of your convictions.
>
>
>D.
Have you ever tried anti-depressants? If not,
why not? You are the most depressing person
in this forum, by a wide margin. Is your
margin truly that wide, I wonder? Maybe that's
it - you need to loose some weight and get
a life. Try signing up for a dancing class.
You'll meet people and get some exercise in
the process and maybe spend enough time there
that you'll have less to spend here!
Nikolaus Maack
(in message <4049...@news.zianet.com>):
> Have you ever tried anti-depressants? If not,
> why not? You are the most depressing person
> in this forum, by a wide margin. Is your
> margin truly that wide, I wonder? Maybe that's
> it - you need to loose some weight and get
> a life. Try signing up for a dancing class.
> You'll meet people and get some exercise in
> the process and maybe spend enough time there
> that you'll have less to spend here!
Everyone is on anti-depressants. I have a neighbour -- her dog is anxious,
and she's giving little Buffy a horse tranquilizer every morning just so he
can cope. When the dogs of the world start having nervous breakdowns, you
know we are in trying times.
All the same, I refuse to dope myself up. The thing that gets me, that irks
me, that claws at me, is that there are people who have perfectly valid
reasons for being depressed, and they're taking drugs to be happy. They have
horrible, boring, miserable, meaningless lives, but because they're popping
something every four hours on the dot, they enjoy it.
If these people were being experimented on by shrinks, the ethics committee
wouldn't allow half the crap going on. But because these are honest to god
PATIENTS -- hell, fuck 'em up til they can't tell if they're coming, going,
or being torn apart by rabid wolves. When someone's dying of cancer, it's
okay to keep them cranked on morphine until they expire. I guess that given
our lovely, paranoid, self-absorbed society, we need to face facts -- some
people are walking dead. Keep 'em drugged til they die.
Oh, and give them boners too. Prozac and Viagra -- why not make 'em into one
pill? Prozara -- makes you blissfully unaware and gives you an erection a
terrrorist can fly a plane into and you won't even fucking remember it a year
and a half later.
"What was that exploding noise?"
"Nothing, nothing. Everything's fine. By the way, we're at war with
everyone light brown and it's now illegal to have negative thoughts about the
president and his family. Take this pill -- it will make you believe in
political representatives."
Swig the pill down with purified tap water sold to you by a corporation that
doesn't seem to understand the irony that they are charging you for a cleaner
version of what SHOULD be free. But don't give them any ideas -- they'll
sell the water filtration plants to Coke.
And so on.
PS.
What were we talking about? Oh yeah, Survivor All Stars. I think the
winner, in a surprise upset, will be Probst. He ALWAYS takes home a million
dollars, and he gets to rub his dick against EVERYBODY.
Tran Chewla
nikm...@sympatico.ca says...
>Swig the pill down with purified tap water sold to you by a corporation that
>doesn't seem to understand the irony that they are charging you for a cleaner
>version of what SHOULD be free.
You say "should be free?" Is your tap water free?
I have never lived where it was free, and I've
lived in several states in the USA and several
foreign countries. In fact, in the middle east,
you get it delivered to your roof-top "tap water"
tank by donkey cart, but it ain't free! Where
I live you can still legally drill your own water
well on your property, even though you live in
midtown! But drilling the well is not cheap either,
and then there is the cost pumping the water and
insuring its purity, etc.
Check out this purely coincidental story in
today's news:
http://www.sfnewmexican.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=6&ArticleID=41479
Nikolaus Maack
(in message <4049...@news.zianet.com>):
>> Swig the pill down with purified tap water sold to you by a corporation
>> that
>> doesn't seem to understand the irony that they are charging you for a
>> cleaner
>> version of what SHOULD be free.
>
> You say "should be free?" Is your tap water free?
I live in Canada. We don't have taps -- we just walk over to the crystal
clear brook running through our backyard, get on our knees, lower our faces
to the cool water, and drink straight from the source. This is why George W.
Bush will soon come up with some reason for "liberating" Canada from tyranny.
Americans need oil, Americans need water.
"The godless Canadians are legalizing marijuanna and gay marriage. We must
invade in order to save their souls. God bless America."
America needs a president who represents the people and not Coke & Pepsi & a
dozen or so other companies that own the planet, if not our souls. The man
is a robot. Unplug him, goddamn it, before he goes on another
Frankensteinish killing spree!
> I have never lived where it was free, and I've
> lived in several states in the USA and several
> foreign countries.
Well, then let's put it this way -- why pay for DASANI water, when you are
presumably already paying for tap water? Besides, it tastes terrible
compared to the many types of spring water on the market. And yet Dasani is
everywhere, because every corner store on the planet carries Coke products.
Tran Chewla
nikm...@sympatico.ca says...
>And yet Dasani is
>everywhere, because every corner store on the planet carries Coke products.
>
> Nik
>http://www.nikart.ca
Omigod, I guess I'm "nowhere" since I've never
heard of Dasani - much less know what it stands for.
Where I live we don't have enough water
to meet the needs of those living here and yet the
building boom continues booming along. Now the
local know-it-alls are talking about desalinating
waters from underground, but that will be so
energy intensive that they are also talking about
yet another nuke power plant just to supply the
energy to desalt the water. I think we'll all
be moving to Canada before too long, where the
water runs clean and clear in everyone's backyard!
Nikolaus Maack
(in message <404a...@news.zianet.com>):
> Omigod, I guess I'm "nowhere" since I've never
> heard of Dasani - much less know what it stands for.
It stands for capitalism.
Dasani is the bottled water released by the Coca-Cola corporation. It's
internationally know. Sold in the UK and the USA and presumably elsewhere.
It's Coke's answer to bottled springwater -- slightly polished tapwater,
bottled and sold. Presumably the martketing weasels figured they could
corner the market because tapwater is cheaper to bottle than springwater.
> Where I live we don't have enough water
> to meet the needs of those living here
Give me your mailing address and I will mail you a water balloon to throw at
your neighbours.
Dilettante
> Dasani is the bottled water released by the Coca-Cola corporation. It's
> internationally know. Sold in the UK and the USA and presumably elsewhere.
> It's Coke's answer to bottled springwater -- slightly polished tapwater,
> bottled and sold. Presumably the martketing weasels figured they could
> corner the market because tapwater is cheaper to bottle than springwater.
The CocaCola company also sells a bottled water overseas called
BonAqua. It doesn't matter how they make it as long as it's safe and
tastes good. The bottled water sold by Nestle's tastes better than
Evian and Perrier.
Dilettante
Tran Chewla
nikm...@sympatico.ca says...
>Give me your mailing address and I will mail you a water balloon to throw at
>your neighbours.
>
> Nik
>http://www.nikart.ca
>
If you're sending it WITH the water, I'll
take you up on your offer, but I'll save
the water for making a cuppa and fill the
balloon with sand before throwing it at
my neighbors, who just happen to be these
folks:
http://www.zianet.com/bisonmoon/
keith o'connor
pig piss from the water entering his property and has been charged with
dumping illegal discharge (filtered pig piss) on his neighbours property.
His neighbour is complaining about the charge against Nik because he has
been selling the pig piss to perfume manufacturers and the charge against
Nik if upheld would impact his income.
Nik was planning on charging him for the pig piss once he found out there
was money to be made so he is not happy with the charge and threatens to
bottle the filtered pig piss himself.
Nik's property is not zoned commercial so he can't bottle the filtered pig
piss on site. The city is suing the pig farm for ground water pollution and
if successful will end everyone's dreams of money money money.
--
take care: Keith
The language of art is not a scientifically accurate language. The language
of art is based upon the application of tendencies and as such creates more
variety of interpretation between people than absolute agreement between
people.
Keith O'Connor
"Tran Chewla" <hair...@dontemailme.com> wrote in message
news:404a...@news.zianet.com...
Dilettante
> Nik is not telling you everything: He has a filter that separates out the
> pig piss from the water entering his property
Which is why you can't get in o'connor.
D.